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Dzzzz:
Fenrir,How you been bro?..You been silent for a long time now!

Bro? Different race, dude is more applicable thanks, im not a brother from an African mother

Im more like a surfer that found the bodacious babe of his dreams

shaybebaby:
No cogent response. Got it!

I'll leave you to reflect on my initial question. Maybe at some point, you will recognise the exercise in futility.

Or just wish Bob luck finding the female husband of his dreams

Kaido:
I respect the fact that women have their own strength in some areas.

But thing is, we are different.

Yes, 100% men and women are different but still equal

If you are married, do a role reverse experiment for a year and once that year is up you'll understand, different does not mean we are not equal

shaybebaby:
Submit to what please?

In a marital sense "submit and submissive" are not the same

To submit is to be dominated by one side in a marriage

Submissive just means to follow your mans lead, but why would a woman automatically do it if the man continually proves hes incapable of taking the lead and needs her to be the husband

Kaido:
The world would have been more chaotic and extremely disoriented , if the women were to lead. Most women are irrational, and also lacks the curiosity of a man like exploring the world.


95% of stuffs that people use today were invented and created by men.

We would have been back in stone age era, if not for men.

We ain't equal, woman!

Yes, men and women are equal
All human life is equal, its just were not the same

No matter who the woman is every man she knows is holding back with her
The average man is bigger, stronger, faster, tougher and more physically resilient

The average man can easily over power 2 or 3 women in a fair fight

Thats why men work in hard labour industries and women don't its not about equality its about who's built for a particular role

We are all equal we just built to contribute to society in different ways

Men build the world and women raise the world
But equally needed just different

BRATISLAVA:
You've been writing about humiliation. And that is from the bride price, no? Because the custom wants prostration and a big family inclusion, right?

I don't know what the other tradition you mentioned is. I only know the bride price because it's universal.

I have no problem with the bride price, I think it should be legally mandatory worldwide for a lot of reasons just done in a vastly different way

But 1 people in an entire country says its mandatory for a man to get on his stomach at his wedding no matter what country or culture he's from and if is a totally forbidden act in his culture they will still demand that he insults his people and his heritage while his people watch to please there is not a culture of humility and respect especially since there is direct evidence in your country that yoruba ancestors would not have done prostration if the bride is not a Virgin

Fella I was married to a yoruba woman and I didn't do it, I sent her father to prison over it and just took her and married her

If prostration was mandatory then I wouldn't have been able to do that

My daughter is half yoruba
Her mother passed of cancer and now im married to an igbo woman and still did no traditions its cultural narcissism to demand and manipulate the world into 1 particular culture and highly illegal under your laws

BRATISLAVA:
Why is it my country? Is it yours? Or are we all sojourners on a public forum?

The prostration tribe. Is that why you are bitter about marriage bride price customs? You felt humiliated by their dramatic rolling on the floor? We often see pictures of them doing it here on the forum. They do it all the time, even their celebrities. Why? That's their culture. Distasteful, but I've seen naked cultures so who am I to judge? What i don't want to see is people from such a culture who abide by it pushing western ideals when they want their women to bring the lazy, primitive men money.

Why do you keep using the bride price as your ammo? I have no problem with a bride price

I just wont do it the way you say, mother, father, siblings that who it should go to not irrelevant extended family that dont matter

And how are yoruba traditional people with values and respect and humility they claim if they wont admit they dont deserve prostration if they do the white cloth tradition as well

BRATISLAVA:
Lol the sandwich one. You've said it all.

There was a time on this forum that Nigerian men were demanding that women go to war, to prove equality at the height of the red pill, and I asked them why women should go to wars that men started. They have no responsibility or chivalry.

The only thing they can agree on is misogyny. Anything else beneficial to society? No, as it won't benefit them directly and soothe their egos. Money is the Nigerian man's chivalry.

To the point that fathers here care more about traditions and ego stroking than the happiness of the daughters and the type of man shes marrying

Your ancestors for all tribes would not have done any of it at all for the people in the country today especially yoruba and prostration if they were so traditional and had the values and humility they claim they would admit they don't deserve prostration if the white cloth tradition is not done as well

The men of this country pick and choose and don't actually value anything but money and their egos in the majority

BRATISLAVA:
What is the particular tribe?

I see you have a campaign against the very fabric of Nigerian men. What do you bring to the table?

Nope
There are 371 tribes in your country
370 expect a man to kneel for a blessing but if that man says no the majority and mean almost 99% will just accept the word no and will substitute it with him sitting or bowing or just drop it completely

For 370 tribes nothing about a traditional wedding is mandatory at all and adjustments and compromises will be made because the families know its not about them in any form at all

Now whats the attitude with 1 tribe that demands prostration? Do they throw a hissy fit and start insulting and try to destroy the relationship if a man says no?

DeeScan:
Mods pls get this impersonator out of my face

Impersonator? Do a video call or be quiet about the Impersonator stuff

How come everytime I say that to of one you, you act all big and bad before but the second i mention video call to any of you then you refuse to even acknowledge it?

Fella, do a video call and I can record that call and post it

BRATISLAVA:
How is there chivalry in poverty? Though they were never chivalrous. I am yet to read a story of Nigerian men going to war. What they need is what women are bringing into relationships.

Women and children is just basic human decency chivalry is.....

A man opening all doors for his woman when out with him,

At restaurants and eateries making sure she is seated and comfortable before he is

Pulling her seat to seat her

Sending her random little gifts, nothing huge just so he knows hes thinking of her

Giving her his jacket or jumper if shes cold

When walking the streets making sure hes the closest to the road

Carrying her when shes exhausted

Etc, how does chivalry need money its care not money? Chivalry is care not financial

The black guy from the marvel movies cant remember his name Anthony something said it best

If you are out and about with your man and other men harass and assault you, you'd expect your man to use his fists to have a discussion with them, so when your man ask you to make him a sandwich then you make him a sandwich

Thats the real problem with Nigeria in this case

The women are becoming men and the men are becoming women and still expecting submissive women

BRATISLAVA:
Based on the topic of the thread, I'll bet you the person who had that conversation is or was poor. It's the only constant in misogyny. Poor men hate women.

How? The Philippines doesn't have this attitude
Thailand doesn't have this attitude both countries the average salary is a lot less than a Nigerian salary

Where women can literally work in bars to be holiday girlfriends to men like me and still find a husband that adores her later In life

Its not poverty thats a problem with a country its the men that run the country that is always the problem with a country

DeeScan:
Can the mods do something about this clown

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Notice its only ever Nigerian men saying this stuff when I point out how hypocritical this country is?

BRATISLAVA:
You're off on a tangent. I know what i responded to there.

In Nigeria, men don't work on themselves. They believe all they need is money. But they want the world from women, and condemn women so that women will take up their responsibilities as men. On other words, they want to become women.

and how do you think they gained that attitude? Because you all lost the traditional values you all harp on about so much

If there is a disaster in this country, like titanic proportions are the men of this country of the belief that its women and children getting saved first? Or more the attitude its a free for all?

Take Norway for example (my home)
2 cars break down
1 is a woman and 1 is a man both are stranded in quiet country roads

The phones for help 20 minutes before the woman, who do you think is going to be sorted first?

If a man and a woman are stranded and both are alone and in different areas, what can happen to a woman that doesn't really happen to a man outside prison environments

The majority of men here simply are not men because they are not willing to take a bullet for their wife and kids

BRATISLAVA:
For Nigerians it is poverty. Their young men are poor, dumb and will ask students this question to prove a point that doesn't even exist. Why? Because in Nigeria that's not the culture, so when trying to be western they ask this dumb question meanwhile poverty is their way of life. I'm yet to see a rich Nigerian man ask it. One who was born rich. Not the poor misogynists who got lucky.

Ask why he doesn't approach a working woman.

Stop using poverty as an excuse, you are suffering a literal brain drain as a country your best and brightest minds are leaving the country because you hold them down from jealousy instead of seeing them as a resource to the country and using them to improve the country

You literally value religion over education, show me any country in the world that has dragged itself out of poverty valuing religion over education? In this country in today's world children have been abandoned and the family calling it witchcraft because the child was too clever to young

The majority of the time religion over education = poverty especially a particular religion where women are second class

Now remind me what particular religion is 52% of your country?

BRATISLAVA:
You were right, until your penultimate sentence.

What would you say to "Men generally are greedy". Men want a home body and still want the person to bring them money, because the only thing men bring is getting money, but they can't even do that alone so create unrealistic expectations to make women fulfill their responsibilities for them and keep wanting more.

It's why a supposedly thinking man will want the body and full services of a teenager in university and still want her to give him money.

Then shame her publicly without addressing his greed. And get support from other dunderheads.

All men can bring is money? Thats just proof that you know nothing about traditional marriage only the humiliation rituals you call traditional weddings

In most countries, why did men get to vote before woman? Answer = because the men agreed that in the event of war they fight it so women and children stay at home safe, if you think all a man brings is money that kind of speaks volumes about your character and what you can personally bring but in a true traditional society that values TRADITIONAL MARRIAGES not humiliation ritual weddings

The man brings.......

Provision
Protection
Hes safety and security
There is a traditional reason worldwide why men take a particular side of the bed (whatever side os closest to the door) so if anyone breaks in they go through the husband before they can get to the wife

You seem to forget that traditionally worldwide women were the gatekeepers to sex and children. Marry her or you get neither

But men were always the gatekeepers to marriage, the family unit, protection, Provision no woman can get married unless a man wants to ask her to marry him

BRATISLAVA:
It's why they are lazy, Young, primitive men. I didn't want to add that it is only poverty that births that stupid question they create threads about and post for 9 pages on it.

It's appalling how they follow teachings online and all start bleating the same thing. This what are you bringing question is something they were all taught to ask some years back, and because they don't think for themselves, they ask it always and in the dumbest situations possible. It makes them sound like gold diggers and exposes the average IQ of poverty.

Their fathers never asked that dumb question, yet they have mothers.

Its not a poor country or poor lifestyle phenomenon, almost all American men black and white are asking this question, as well as black men anx African men all over the world, the Philippines is considered a poor country are they asking this question? Thailand? Vietnam? Are Asian men at all asking this question? Its not about rich or poor, are Europeans? Some European countries are poor, Australians do you hear Europeans or Australians say any of this?

Gerrard59:
I saw the post on Instagram.

This dating thing should be simple: date within your social circle/class. I find it odd that a working class man would ask a student what she brings to the table. In every part of the world, students aren't classified as workers. If you want your woman to be a working class contributor, date a working class woman. There are many women out there who earn their own money. Don't expect the same from a student.

It seems most men don't know what they really want. You cannot date a student and not expect immediate billing. Women generally are billers. So many confused young men these days.

Nonsense look at royal families
If a king marries any woman from any class or social level shes automatically a queen

If a queen marries any man from any lower class or social level the highest he will ever be is a prince or a Duke

Thats just proof for this point being irrelevant, take the uk, king Charles he had a woman the world adored in princess diana and he left her for a literal swamp donkey, proving most men dont they want at all

BRATISLAVA:
It's not good enough because most lazy, young, primitive men want to have their cake and eat it.

She's pretty clear with what she's bringing, though it's dumb to ask a student what they are bringing. To show you the perspective of the average dumb Nigerian misogynist, he's asking what someone who is probably still schooling and is 18 is bringing to the table for him. What was he doing at her age? What do 90% of kids whose parents send them to school do for a living while in school?

The slowpoke is asking what she brings. You'd be surprised he's only bringing money. And misogyny.

Can you really 100% put the blame on gen z men? Who did they it learn from? What kind of positive masculine influences were the fathers? The truth is boys only grow to be like this if men of the generation before were complaining about it and this a black man, an African man and all American men phenomenon

Show me any evidence you can of European men saying any of this or asking this question at all? Show me evidence of Asian men asking this question? Australian men, 🤢🤢 the men of a particular belief system in the middle east?

mysticwarrior:
Our Greatgrand mothers were all farmers, they plant and harvest crops at their backyard to support the family, please kindly show some respect to our grandmothers and Greatgrand mothers

And what did your great grandfather's and grandfather's get most of the time? They got what your wedding traditions (humiliation rituals) are for

Virgins, your great grandfather's and grandfather would not be asking these things

The fact that you ask these questions in the first place is irrefutable that there is no such thing as traditional values in Nigerian society today and there hasn't been since your civil war

Would your grandfather's or great grandfather's say even 10% of the things you say about women?

Would your grandfather's and great grandfather's have done youe humiliation ritual weddings for women that had been pre efed because the parents and extended family said its mandatory because they want it?

The truth is you men don't what you and it wouldn't shock me if in the next few years you said wanted the wives to become the husbands

Lifestone:
Ask the same question about your rod, how many holes has it entered, is it still standing or struggling?

Any hole is a goal.

Fella, in cold countries do we look at the mantlepiece when poking the fire? Same principle here for you men and the women

occfx:
Men are becoming lazy, the only thing I need from a woman is honesty and contentment. Any woman who chases money like a man is already damaged. They will eventually go into competition with the man and push for gender equality.

Any woman who gives you peace of mind and very content with whatever she has is gold

What does a man love more than life?
Fear more than death and mortal strife?
What the poor have and the rich require and contented men desire?
What the miser spends and the spend thrift saves and all men carry to their graves?

Being happy and content is enough fella

occfx:
Men are becoming lazy, the only thing I need from a woman is honesty and contentment. Any woman who chases money like a man is already damaged. They will eventually go into competition with the man and push for gender equality.

Any woman who gives you peace of mind and very content with whatever she has is gold

Nope
Black men and African men, some American men are asking what women bring to the relationship

Not European men
Not Australian men
Not Asian men

But ask around Africa, Nigerians are more American now than you are African today

Ashawoman82:
Oga shutup with ur loweself esteem, using money to lure women is not the right way to get a woman... Stop sounding archaic, we are in the era where an average woman has more privilege to be more successful than u as a man... Look arround u, same way there is no excuse for a man to be poor, it also apllies to women, I will never settle for less or lure women with my money, shows u are not confident of yourself... I will marry a woman my level. And build life, it's that simple, we must both support each other, the era of house wife is totally gone, even billionares marry fellow billionaire woman... Look arround u, no man wants a liability but a partner...

Im not a gen z simp

Im a 40 year old millennial that was that grew the gen x way

Check my other topics, if I wont grovel and stroke the ego of a womans family in traditions do you really think id put up with a woman that only saw me an atm?

When I met her I was a 35 year old single dad, ex military and grieving my wifes loss

I saw a 30 year old gym muscle for show Nigerian guy bullying a 22 year old woman so I showed him what 5 years of pent up rage will do to a man like him, a little bully boy

It took me 12 years to make the millions ive got and 5 years shes already made half of what im worth and she really doesn't need me for money

Don't be so silly to mistake old school for simping

Fenrir:
Thats how i know my wife married me because she loves me

I met her my country being beaten by a Nigerian man, I beat him and she just stayed with me

She has a bank card linked to my accounts to use freely with no permission needed at all and she chooses never to use it, she hasn't used it once in the whole relationship or marriage

She makes her own money from some computer wizardry that I dont understand, she only works 5 hours a week and the rest of the time shes a housewife and mother to my daughter because she wants to be and she loves me for me because the second i said I wont do igbo traditions she said "ok, dont" she didn't even want a bride paid and I had to behind her back to pay it to save hassle

Ashawoman82

Im a different race
Im a different nationality
Im a different ethnicity

I didn't flash the cash to get my wifes gash
I used brains and brawn and beat the beta beating her and she followed me around like a love sick puppy everyday after

Ashawoman82:
mentality of a simp, she contributes, does it mean she does 50:50? Why then shouldn't she submit..

Why would a woman want to submit to a man that throws a tantrum and demands it?

Or do you think a woman will naturally submit to a man that makes her feel safe and secure?

Men like get cheated on because your head isnt screwed on right

Where as my and my Mrs are perfect for each other, we do alot of swinging

Ashawoman82:
mentality of a simp, she contributes, does it mean she does 50:50? Why then shouldn't she submit..

There is no such as 50/50 one is always making more effort for the other

And there is literally no such as a gold digger or greedy woman ive said it before

All women cost money, even a woman YOU consider low maintenance is expensive to some men

Just be quiet, pick one in your price range that can live within your means, be happy and do right by each other

Not my fault you're broke fella

dollypi:
Easily replaced by AD 2030...humanoid robots with/without artificial wombs from Tesla, with ChatGPT and Grok pre-installed.

It won't talk unless spoken to, won't give you another man's child with its built-in DNA testing...and it can discuss with you intelligently enough to positively impact your life.

Thank God for technology

So, basically you just told told the world you cant get laid so you are going to wait until an advance talking toaster that you can have sex with is invented

Clairvoyancy:
How did you know that?I'm not sure you are still referring to that same SS.... Goodnight abeg... You and K'junkie share the same mentality....

Because what you see as dependent on a man i see as a completely different thing

You see dependent, I see devoted
A woman like that will happily iron your clothes
Have breakfast, lunch and dinner ready
Will scratch your back when you cant reach
Will give you as many kids as you want
Available in bed whenever you need and all you have to do is take of her and make her happy

There is a difference between a wife and a married woman, a wife is what most men need, if you have her working then shes just a married woman and is more likely to cheat because she has more access to more men giving her more attention while she's out working

Seriously what more could you need?

And its bizarre
You are a Nigerian man living in Nigeria and you know for a fact a wedding ring will not stop other Nigerian men attempting to get a married woman into bed

starpower:
What I meant was when people have few options they pretend and a lot of people choose their spouses because they have few options. What we can control is ourselves, by expecting less from relationships, we will be selfish with what we invest in people when we haven't tested their loyalty. The more valuable you become, your options you have, and you will know what they offer before asking them.
I prefer relationships starting as friendship, when you ask them, you are permitted to be deceived.

Thats how i know my wife married me because she loves me

I met her my country being beaten by a Nigerian man, I beat him and she just stayed with me

She has a bank card linked to my accounts to use freely with no permission needed at all and she chooses never to use it, she hasn't used it once in the whole relationship or marriage

She makes her own money from some computer wizardry that I dont understand, she only works 5 hours a week and the rest of the time shes a housewife and mother to my daughter because she wants to be and she loves me for me because the second i said I wont do igbo traditions she said "ok, dont" she didn't even want a bride paid and I had to behind her back to pay it to save hassle