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agaugust:
So why is your own South African source not telling lies? SANDF has denied knowledge of it, and Nigerian army has denied knowledge of it

"The SA National Defence Force on Monday said it was unaware of former South African soldiers being deployed to Nigeria to help destroy terrorist group Boko Haram.

"I do not know where Beeld gets this thing from. Ask them," SANDF spokesman Siphiwe Dlamini said.

http://www.sowetanlive.co.za/news/2015/01/27/sandf-unaware-of-soldiers-in-nigeria


"When contacted yesterday, the Nigeria Defence spokesman Major General Chris Olukolade said, "It is well known that terrorism being an international and trans/cross border menace calls for the involvement of all well meaning countries all over the world."

He added that: "In this case I'm only aware of partner countries whose activities have been mainly in the form exchange of ideas and support to ongoing training activities."

Olukolade also said: "The conduct of Nigeria's counter terrorism campaign remains exclusively an all Nigerian troops affairs. This is the much I know and can discuss."

http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201501281248.html/

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That's true SANDF know nothing about them because they are free citizens who are not contracted to work for SANDF. They do not account to SANDF so why should they make their whereabout known to SANDF? Mercenary service is banned in SA, of course they wouldn't want everyone to know about their destination. However, the beeld newspaper which always uncover secret operations in SA reported about the whereabouts of SA mercenaries. They are now exposed.

agaugust:
Nope, your own illiteracy is staggering

The article talks about Chinese products flooding into South Africa and killing your weaker economy, your people love to use made in China

I quote from the article :

3. Chinese‐South Africa Trade Flows
3.1 Growth and Structure of Chinese‐South Africa Trade

Trade between South Africa and China has grown dramatically since China joined the WTO in 2001.  

South African imports from China increased from less than $1.1 billion in 2001 to $14.2 billion in 2011.

Throughout the period, South Africa has run a trade deficit with China which tended to increase over time, as shown in Figure 1

Chinese products are now colonizing South African cities all over your country
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Exactly which products are colonizing us. Made in China does not translate into suggesting that the brand is from China.

Adidas, Nike or Puma know very well that China has manpower and you only have to pay them cheap to produce your product faster than a lightning.

Unfortunately for me, I.have nothing in my house that is a China product, other than a European company producing their products using Chinese cheap labour.

EVarn:
imfene,some american police stations are also the size of a retail kiosk.it all depends on the size,location and population of the local community they are overseeing.

But they look neat though.

The Chadian troops have helped recover Nigerian town from BH, something which Nigerian troops have been failing to do.


http://m.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31038579

agaugust:
Nope, some local governments have 50 police stations. Size of the local governents vary, some have 1 million people some have 10,000 people.

Nigerian police stations are very tiny, some are just the size of a one room apartment.

agaugust:
Google it, Nigeria keeps records, 774 police stations collect report from each of the 774 Local Governments including villages
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Nigeria keeps stats of only what they want to keep.

agaugust:
About 80% of products in South African nation are made in China ! You are Chinese economic colony

https://www.uea.ac.uk/documents/439774/0/Edwards+Jenjkins+SALDRU.pdf/82f05bfc-bf8b-4af1-b843-bb522695c6d6
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China is merely being used for production by Europe countries. Majority of what they produce are in fact not Chinese products.

agaugust:
SAN has only one Frigates for war today

Tomorrow they will be four.

agaugust:
Nigerian military college, we instruct there !

Report says South African COIN operatives....your officers in charge of your COIN operations were trained by Nigerian army experts

Source clearly says :

A total of 103 counter insurgency operatives from Nigeria and nine other African countries have concluded a four-week intensive training on internal security.

I really pity that single SA who went for a course in Nigerian military college. However, the source said other countries were merely invited to come and help with ideas and information.

Nigeria must pay huge sum of money if they really want to use the services of the best mercenaries in the world (South Africa).

agaugust:
Yet you Southies boast here that South Africa is proudly a member of BRICS manufacturing nations along with the same China that you ridicule, means your BRICS group of 5 nations is a gathering of junk manufacturers
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Being partners does not mean we should patronise their products. Instead we've helped them in many projects.

agaugust:
Your own source says US hired mercenaries from many countries, not only South Africa, and it includes mercenaries from Fiji and Colombia, if a tiny Fiji Island Nation is ranked along with South Africa....Yiu should bury your head in the sand of shame


"US tax dollars aren't just going to South AFrican killers. They're going to mercenaries from Fiji, Nepal, Colombia and who knows where else.

Indeed, While Fiji, Nepal, Colombia and other nations supply large contingents of guards to the U.S. war effort somewhat openly"
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SA mercenaries were more than any other mercenaries in all US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even getting paid more than US troops.

andrewza:
Does Nigeria even keep proper record of murders, road deaths and rapes. He'll do you even have had many cars has us.

Nope, Nigeria does not keep records of anything.

andrewza:
Old news. Yes some one from south Africa was there. We go to a lot of events all over the world. But that is not training us in in any thing. South Africa trained the Dec army. By that I mean we trained 3000+ solders from there in one year.

A Nigerian sailor was in south Africa 2 years ago for damage control, fire fighting, sea survival and CBRND training. One guy. Did we train the Nigerian navy? No a Nigerian came to see how we do it. I know people that did the same training in Germany. Did Germany train south Africa? No some guys from sa went to Germany for a course. Even cape verda sends people to train in other countries. I spoke to cape verda solder who trained in France.

That was rather a course. Hehehehehe…

agaugust:
No, you should bury your whole body in the sand !

Your story is denied, but this other own story is confirmed and South Africa is NOT denying it.....


[size=16pt]Nigerian Army Trains Current South African Officers In COIN war combat ![/size]



Jaji (Kaduna), NIGERIA - A total of 103 counter insurgency operatives from Nigeria and nine other African countries have concluded a four-week intensive training on internal security.


Graduation of Basic Counter-Terrorism Course for soldiers of the 70th Regular intake in Jaji

The training, which was held at the Armed Forces Command and Staff College, Jaji, Kaduna State, drew participants from 11 agencies and organisations, as well as Senior Course 36 of the college. Other participants were from South Africa ,Togo, Cameroon, Gambia, Burkina Faso, Benin Republic, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Ghana.


The Commandant of the college, Air Vice Marshal John Ifemije, said on Friday at the close of the training that it was meant to enhance the preparedness of the personnel in confronting internal security challenges. He noted that "dealing with complex security challenges these days goes beyond the conventional techniques.


Ifemije urged the participants to use the knowledge gained from the training to strengthen inter agency cooperation, share information and intelligence, adhere to rules of engagement and to seek for the intervention of the military whenever necessary. The commandant commended them on their conduct throughout the exercise and urged them to remain committed to their responsibilities.


Earlier, the Director, Department of Joint Studies of the college, Brig-Gen. Benjamin Ahanato said the training code named 'EX HASKE BIYU,' was the participants to value "joint consultation, sharing of information and freedom of action."

He described the training as "a huge success," and urged them to use the knowledge gained to ensure peace and stability in Nigeria.

(NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA)

http://www.africanoutlookonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8196:college-trains-103-counter-insurgency-operatives-from-nigeria-9-other-countries&catid=48:political-news&Itemid=29

Nigeria trains South Africa alongside Togo Republic in COIN way in the same Nigerian Army College, students of SANDF + Togolese Army + Cameroon`s cowardly army that is begging Chad for help !


[size=16pt] GAME OVER !!! [/size]

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Shut up!!! @agau, your soldiers are currently heavily trained by South Africans as we speak.

agaugust:
Nigerian army alone is fighting Nigeria`s war !
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So, you have now contracted SA mercenaries to do the job that you can't do like the Americans.

agaugust:
Good to see you admit the Chinese drone is just like any other equipment that can malfunction, good to see you humbled
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Your skull is crashed that's why your government secretly contracted SA mercenaries to train your army.

agaugust:
#Show Us Armed Drone In SANDF Service
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Here are some of the few.

agaugust:
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Nigerian military has finally confirmed it.... Butt Hurt South Africans

SANDF is 20 years far behind NA and NAF in drone capability

SANDF is out-dated....and broke too


"Some drones and other sophisticated equipment have been deployed in the Northeast to curtail Boko Haram’s insurgency, The Nation learnt yesterday.

The acquisition of the drones is part of the new massive Nigerian military campaign to be launched soon against Boko Haram.

The source said the arrival of the hardware has boosted the morale of troops.

The source said: “The Nigerian military has deployed some drones and sophisticated hardware in the North-East in line with its timeline to end Boko Haram insurgency.

These drones will complement ongoing air and land strikes against some bases of the sect.

The simultaneous attacks on Monguno, Konduga and Maiduguri by Boko Haram insurgents were pre-emptive steps against the military by the sect.

With effective equipment, the insurgents were aware that the game is up and in annoyance, they decided to attack military installations and troops."

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/military-deploys-drones-battle-boko-haram/[/size]

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Beware of China, it will suck your blood dry. If you want the most effective and efficient stealth drones just come to SA and place your order. We are very honest at making business, but please don't try to come at the back door like you did in the past.

agaugust:
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Nigerian military has finally confirmed it.... Butt Hurt

SANDF is 20 years far behind NA and NAF in drone capability.

SANDF is out-dated....and broke too

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/military-deploys-drones-battle-boko-haram/[/size]

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Denel has a lot of killer drones confirmed, touched and even sold to unknown foreign customers. It is not just speculated if they have them or not. They are powerful and not scrappy like the Chinese drone which you falsely claim its ownership. Do you even think BH will ever get on their knees by the use of that scrappy drone. Surely the answer is NO.

agaugust:
DENEL is NOT an army.

DENEL is NOT = SANDF.

Same way DICON is NOT = Nigerian army.

No equipment inside a manufacturing company's warehouse is counted by military ranking sources as army arsenal equipment.

Only what you buy and pay for and put in arsenal somewhere is counted by sources like Global Firepower, Global Security, etc. No military source goes inside commercial manufacturing companies and count weapons in the laboratory or warehouse and add it to a nations army orbat arsenal, or else the USA, Russia, UK, China will have much more than what is listed for their military on Global Firepower rankings, there are hundreds of new weapons worldwide that Super Powers have developed in defence industries but not yet entered service in their armed forces arsenal.

SANDF has NO armed drone.....okay show me one armed drone in SANDF use with your soldiers
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DENEL IS =SA GOVERNMENT=SANDF

The source could not positively confirmed the scrappy drone belongs to Nigeria. Sorry!! Thats just a speculation, No confirmation.

agaugust:
Butt Hurt, we have what you don't have

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/whose-drone-just-crashed-in-nigeria-c8c55bdf3476
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True, SA does not have scrappy drones.

mzilakazi:
President Bush hired over 10 000 SA military experts.



http://m.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/07/395047/-Bush-Hired-10-000-South-African-Apartheid-Mercenaries-For-Iraq

To tell you the truth at one time I was also tempted to resign and join one of these groups because of the money that was involved. Many of our pilots as close to 80 resigned to join these private military/security firms. I was told that you could earn up to $70 000 just more than what a colonel of US could ever dream of.

It was these people who was doing the dirty job for America under the US army uniform. These very people who offered US army training in counters terrorism and counter-insurgency. To tell you the truth Americans know nothing about fighting insurgency from the ground.

agaugust:
SANDF runs like springbok, turn their backs to Seleka...Olympic champions

[img]http://www.larousse.fr/encyclopedie/data/images/1310024-Springbok_par_Erroc.jpg[/img]
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That will positively be Nigerian army which leaves behind weapons everywhere the go and Boko Haram surfaces. That is confirmed everywhere in the world.

agaugust:
Nope SANDF lost several Geckos captured by Seleka illiterate rag tag masters that rule over Mandela's army.

I have posted 4 different Geckos on this forum all controlled by Seleka including the one that has a tyre/wheel missing.

Seleka boys are Lords over South African army....that is why you guys praise Chadian soldiers as your heroes, they stood where you fled
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Hehehehehehe… Do you even know that SANDF has many vehicles under UN missions, some are sold and some are being rented? None of such can you ever find on the net other than Rooivalks. Those vehicles which have been sold to UN have been permanently deleted from the inventory.

agaugust:
My pleasure sir...SANDF has Africa's biggest Cowards...Seleka is your master

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Nah!!! I have also confirmed it. SANDF had many geckos which some were used by CAR troops in Bangui. The geckos were airlifted to Bangui and were never intended to be repatriated back to the country even when the mission was complete.

agaugust:
You have no proof of your FALSE claims.

I have posted citation showing South Africans buying and burning millions of candles per day in your ANC Republic Of Darkness
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I will not be amazed when next time you will be asking me to provide a citation as a proof that I Bleep with my wife. South African were advised to buy rechargeable light bulbs as they were more safer than using candles. So many people have now bought them. I don't think that need citation.

agaugust:
How did Nigeria build Africa's biggest economy by living on permanent blackout?
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Numbers are on your side just like China claimed the world biggest economy from last year.

http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2015/01/china-worlds-largest-economy

The US will soon be officially removed from number 1 spot and the President of America has already accepted to settle with the second position.

agaugust:
Citation needed
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Why would there ever be a citation for people buying light bulbs. It would just be the same like asking for a citation for confirmation of if husbands are really having sexx with their wives at night or not. Rechargeable light bulbs are sold at many SA stores and shops country wide and many people are buying them out of stock everyday.

agaugust:
South Africa was democratic before 1994 , or Botha and De Klerk are military rulers?

SADF ceased to exist after 1994, most whites with war experience were retired or emigrated to Australia, elite battalions were disbanded by ANC, the army was massively filled up with inexperienced jobless black youths from Soweto and thus degraded skill, education, battle experience, and professionalism to create the new Black controlled SANDF.

Show me the years of war experience your current SANDF has, why are you always afraid of this question?
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Most of the whites that left SA for Australia out of fear of retaliation of black people have since came back to the land. My folks have tried it but they only end up with.miserable memories of braai vleis and pap, boerewors and spit braai whole watching rugby match and that you can never find anywhere in the world

EVarn:
a typographical error,i meant jacob zuma,

Tell Shekau to get his story right.