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Henry120:
Proudly white Afrikanner.

The other 79% of the population are conspicuously missing.

Why is it that you always treat Afrikaaners as if they are not South Africans? I am a mixed coloured of White and Malay decendent and I look more like a white man. Many South Africans confuse me as that and surely in Nigeria I will be categorised as white. So, does that make me a foreigner? If being black does not make Beyonce or R-Kelly a foreigner in America, why should it make me a foreigner in Africa.

You Nigerians are only jealous because your country is 100% black and is not mixed like that of SA. We are a rainbow nation in Africa.

Henry120:
Actually, the Israelis bullied Zuma's government. You got your chips back after they (mossad) was done downloading it's content.

This is another South-African failure.

Chief, this is not a failure rather a win on the side of SA intelligence. The blueprint was recovered before it fell on the wrong hands. Don't be any illusional about what really happed. The two technicians who stole the blueprint were arrested.

overhypedsteve:
why do you southies like pleasuring your own selves. The fact that south Africans are serving in the Israeli mil, does not mean they are mechs. We he Nigerian citizen serving there too.

You are a dull head indeed. The IDF is a mercenary force used by the Israeli military to attack Gaza strip. Such beauty queens purported to be from Nigeria are merely used as fronts to cover the dirty tracks and the real mission of IDF. Those people are mercenaries and nothing more. However, Nigeria does not currently have a law prohibiting its citizens to serve as mercenaries to other countries simply because it had never been experienced in the past and have never had such challenges.

EVarn:
well,there wasnt any punching,kung fu,taek wang do,or police invasion today.but there was a lot of insult and rhetorics,that is the 'chaos' i'm talking about.if you watched today's parliament proceedings,you would have heard enough of "cockroach" "hooligan" "broken men" and other insults been traded around in parliament.
it was particularly amusing when malema claimed to have been dragged out of parliament last week with his pen.is

That's what politicians usually do all over the world. That's what they are paid to do. Thus, let's go back to military discourse.

EVarn:
nope,that was a different one where lawmakers were being dragged around with their private parts{according to malema}..hahahahahaha....this one happened today,check the breaking news.

Nope, I was watching the parliamentary proceedings today. It was just an ordinary debate on state of the nation address.

No chaos at all.

EVarn:
CHAOS IN PARLIAMENT!
http://news.yahoo.com/africas-zuma-under-fire-over-chaos-parliament-152100782.html
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"dishonorable" "cockroach" "hooligan" Insults and curses were traded between parliamentarians on tuesday,after last week when lawmakers were forcefully dragged out of the parliament
"you are not an honourable man..." Mmusi maimane,a lawmaker of the opposition 'democratic alliance' told zuma who was sitting face to face,a few metres away from him.
prompting zuma to break into a grin.
maimane complained that when the police had invaded the parliament last week,to drag out opposition lawmaker,zuma had burst out laughing.
earlier,baleka mbete,an ANC parliamentarian had described julius malema as a "cockroach",prompting malema to accuse mbete of inciting people to kill him.malema had condemned last week's parliament invasion,claiming that they had been "dragged out with their private parts".climbing the podium,malema described zuma as a "hooligan".
"we arent afraid of you..." malema said to a grinning zuma

The chaos was on Thursday and has passed. We all forgot about it.

agaugust:
Chief EVarns, I stepped aside from this forum because South Africans could not stomach Nigerian militarys world class combat success rate at lightning speed of our final offensive, so the Southies began to mess up this thread with FALSE STORIES.

I left them alone to entertain themselves with rants, delusion, illusions and misinformation. Their problem, not mine.

Nigerian military seen in current training with white men are old trainings with Americans, or current training with Isrealis, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Romanians, including experts from private companies that sold us new weapons like PGM armed night combat Alpha jets, T-72 tanks, BVP M80 IFV, RM-70 MRLS, Gazelle combat helicopters, and Puma combat helicopters. Many of our new weapons are purchased from private companies that have contracts to train Nigerian military on use of new weapons they sold to us, that is world standard, you sell me weapons you train me how to use them. Some training with the European weapon dealers is done inside the Nigerian NE war zone because we cannot withdraw soldiers and pilots from battlefield and send them to Europe for training on every new weapon we just purchased.

When the forum recovers sanity, I will be commenting again regularly. For now, I leave the Southies to entertain themselves with delusions and illusions...a fool will always be a fool, so why worry?
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No false stories but only confirmed stories with sources, yet you don't provide yours to counter our claim. You just only claim because you want to.

You can never deny the facts.


http://www.naij.com/385393-boko-haram-nigeria-hires-sa-mercenaries-illegally.html

EVarn:
okay,lets just ASSUME that your mercenaries are flying our jets and helicopters,how many aircrafts can they fly?,we have squadrons of different gunships,can your notorious mercenaries fly each and every one of them?.
tut tut tut tut.......
dont be ridiculous sweetheart,your mercenaries cannot fly a paper kite even if their beards depended on it.

The former SA special forces received specialised training to fly gunships, that was in case they hijack one. The former pilots received specialised training as well to fly enemy aircrafts from MIGs, Mirage, Hinds, etc.

rka1:
Edward @DonKlericuzio · 18h 18 hours ago
Over 400 #BokoHaram fighters were fri-sun killed by Nigerian forces who liberated monguno NE nigeria with 2 streit APC's n SUV's recovered

Ideas, strategies, plans and organisation brought about by noble former SA soldiers.

rka1:
These Southies are very funny indeed. Nigerian Pilots have been flying drones from TAC in Makurdi, newly delivered helos with precision weapons and night attack capability are being delivered and then they turn round and say make-believe Southie mercenaries will just walk up to the helo and start flying precision strikes.

It is being done by well trained Nigerian Air Force pilots. Sorry to disappoint you, the Pilots had been training in Eastern Europe for a while. You can't change facts. You will just have to live with it.

I told you guys a couple or so weeks ago to just watch what is going to happen. You thought I was joking.

Make I hear word jare.

You denying the facts which were also proved by SA government. One of my former colleague has also joined the company which has gone to Nigeria. Rather argue with the facts.


http://newsrescue.com/nigeria-charters-100-mercenaries-south-africa-help-fight-boko-haram-sa-fumes/#axzz3S1HAPIUy

fydence:
Stay off that weed U smoking...

Rather accuse the source of smoking weed.

http://newsrescue.com/nigeria-charters-100-mercenaries-south-africa-help-fight-boko-haram-sa-fumes/#axzz3S1HAPIUy

EVarn:
no one have seen them,we have watched videos of the NA training exercises and deployment to battle,yet we didnt see any mercenary either training our troops or leading them into battle.we have seen pictures too,but even then,no mercenary popped up in any picture.
so where are the mercenaries?

Somewhere in Nigeria flying your gunship and fighter jets. They have taken over your airforce.

agaugust:
South African mercenaries DO NOT EXIST inside Nigeria
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Give us a source to corroborate your claim.

EVarn:
they may be citizens,but due to the fact that they are mercenaries,they still have the capacity to pose a threat to national security or even distabilize foreign policy{as your defence minister claimed that they did by 'illegaly' working for our DHQ}.every citizen has a right to privacy,but national interest erodes all forms of individual rights
of course you wouldnt let them know that they are being watched,thats the point of "watching" them.
these things need to be done for the greater good.

Your suggestions are baseless, because everybody can become a mercenary. I can also become one if I so wish and tell me how will the government know of my intention? SA has many ex-soldiers that you can never trace their whereabouts unless if you want to turn yourself into a fool.

EVarn:
for the fact that they are ex-service men and that they have also been deployed to conflict zone as mercenaries,the intelligence service should have their data report and continue monitoring them for any new 'illegal' transaction that could cause civil unrest.

So, does it mean that their privacy should be encroached upon? Does it mean that their movements should be restricted within the borders of SA? The answer for both question is a big NO. Those people are not criminals and if being an ex-soldier makes you a criminal then I don't know.

[size=18]After all, these serves as an evidence that Nigerian military is not a powerful force in Africa. It is just an army which has been granted glory for the work which have been achieved under the belt and arms of the UN. It is just an army which deceived many people about their capability which in actual fact was not genuine. All which they have achieved was in collaboration with other forces.[/size]

EVarn:
same thing sweetheart,same thing!

Same thing what? @Evarn, there is no intelligence that will know when you have suddenly decided to become a terrorist overnight. Intelligence officers are not prophets. Same, there is no mercenary whose identity documentation has been blacklisted as such unless he or she has been prosecuted and convicted by court of law for commiting that offence in the past.

EVarn:
lol.for a while there you sounded clueless.
how can 100 ex-service men,with reputations as fierce mercenaries be allowed to board a plane to abuja through any of your international airports without raising a sandstorm of suspicion?,hmm?....
your defense ministry would have detected almost immediately and your intelligence service would have sanction them,whisking them off to court before they can beg for clemency.

LOL!! In SA there is no law that provide that people should be branded as mercenaries. It is only terrorists which should be clearly categorised in the world and surely not mercenaries. You can never know who is a mercenary. People leave their countries to work as mercenaries without their countries knowing my man. Previously, it was different when these groups were still operating within the legal framework until they were banned after they brought about conflict of commiting massacres.

EVarn:
they were contacted,physically adjudged and ferried out of SA by the nigerian DHQ while your defense ministry floundered cluelessly and your intelligence service was busy monitoring opposition parliamentarians.

Who said they were farried? They could have used their own transport like any passanger dude. Many have done the same when they headed to Iraq.

EVarn:
as far as we are concerned,there are no mercenaries in nigeria.

Yes, because you say so.

EVarn:
lol.a country does not employ the service of mercenaries through traceable phone calls.
your defense ministry and intelligence service failed to detect a covert infilteration and massive evacuation of known private mercenaries.arent those kind of people supposed to be kept under closely guarded watch?
now your ministry is crying foul and threatening armageddon.but they have recieved no response.

A phone call can only be traced back when it was either tapped or recorded. Other than that it can be just any innocent call to or from Nigeria.

In democratic country people cannot be asked or questioned about their trips and travelling in and out of the country.

Some of the South Africans mercenaries are said to be involved in training Nigerian air force pilots and carrying out air strikes against the insurgents position.


My quote of the day from one Nigerian media.

The only thing that I know about SA mercenaries is that they will suck Nigerias oil money just like they did to the US. They bankrupted Sierra Leone, Liberia, Equitorial Guinea, etc wherever their services have been used.

EVarn:
media that keep quoting themselves

There are over 10 of them, so you should tell us which one do you want?

EVarn:
in a scenario where the nigerian DHQ sent in secret envoys to SA to help negotiate a contract with mercenaries under the nose of your intelligent services,after the deal,the DHQ again sent in a transport aircraft into you airspace to convey your mercenaries to abuja where screening was conducted and directives were given.
all these took place,while your defence ministry remained oblivious.
it wasnt until a media organisation named 'beeld' decided to investigate the mysterious disappearance of a sizeable chunk of your former military men,that your defence ministry became 'aware' of the purported nigerian 'conspiracy'.
is this the scenario as it happened?,hmm?

Mercenaries are contracted secretly by secret services in a way which is clandestine in nature. Intelligence can never know everything every time unless it is a matter of concern. The intelligence after all is not prophetic in nature. They may also have been invited by phone call and meet in another country.

EVarn:
citation needed

This one is only one of many of Nigerian media

http://www.naij.com/385393-boko-haram-nigeria-hires-sa-mercenaries-illegally.html

EVarn:
how come your defense ministry allowed mercenaries to be ferried with nigerian military aircrafts from SA to nigeria,and later went to the media wailing about an unfair injustice?

The ministry of defence does not account to mercenaries. They are just only seen as private citizens.

EVarn:
No mercenery in the north east,if there were any,the nigerian media would have revealed it.

Your Nigerian media revealed it but you continue to deny the facts.

EVarn:
if no one has seen them,then they arent in the north east.
if there are indeed mercenaries in the north east,where are they then?,surely we didnt pay them to bury themselves underground.

Obviously, the rules of mercenaries is not to operate in the open unless terror has escalated to the situation which will make them to resort to operating publicly. 100 is such a small number and obviously you can never expect the whole country infested with them. They will only cover small area at a time.

Those mercenaries are merely there to sharpen the skill of your pilots and bring back the moral inside the camp of Nigerian army. Some, are doing strategies and plans of the battle while some are leading your troops into the battle field to make sure that the objectives of the military is realised.

To tell the truth I was also at some point attempted to resign and join these companies due to the huge sum of money which was involved. Many of our white dudes in the army resigned and requested for the licence from the ministry of defence to serve in Irag and Afghanistan as security personnel, while in the meantime they were also secretly used as mercenaries by the US government of GW Bush. They were paid exorbitant amount of cash that even the US troops from colonels to privates could only dream about. They were way over 12000 in Irag and they ate almost quota of the US budget.

iterator24:
oh my, you have comprehension issues.... like I said, I've seen white folks standing beside a pick up truck, they may be SAcans, we don't know, not confirmed..
what I know is, we've deployed F7s and Alpha jets to other countries, we dont need mercenaries to fly them, and mercenaries in nigeria will only be here in grounds of training.
and sadf has no idea about any of our airframes... NA is different from NAF

Incorrect. My point of order is that many SA pilots who could not be granted security of their job in SA due to transformation policies in employment equity act, which required number of white pilots to be reduced and that of black pilots to be increased. Many of them are still very young and some of them joined civilian airlines and some private military firms which is now in your country. These people are used to carry out dirty job at the pay which is more than that of Jonathan.

Msauza:
I am convinced 100% that, those precision airstrikes were carried out by the former advanced trained SA fighter pilots. Nigerian pilots can never do that, they failed to do it in the past and why only now. No ways, those are our mighty former fighter pilots.

100% Correct