₦airaland Forum

EVarn:
which SA mercenaries?.according to your defense minister,there is no soldier of the SANDF officially deployed outside the country.even your minister confessed that he heard about the development through a media group called 'beeld'.
the nigerian DHQ hasnt released any statement about it.
so,as far as everyone is concerned,the deployment of SADF mercenaries into nigeria is mere speculation.

There is one former colleague that is currently there in Nigeria that I know. The minister said there is no SANDF members but she was aware there were mercenaries.

Truly, I don't recall how many times have I told @agaugust about SA mercenaries in Nigeria who are training his rag tag military but he kept on denying despite the media reports. Now it was partly revealed by his military through media leakage.


http://www.nigerianeye.com/2015/02/revealed-how-south-african-mercenaries.html?m=1

EVarn:
that is strange indeed....because i can quite vividly recall tha SA is the disease/HIV capital of the world.we on the other hand,have successfully eradicated polio and ebola from nigeria.

How sure are you that SA is still an AIDS capital? Your country Nigeria does not have official stats, only estimations. Nigeria could be an AIDS capital in the world, only if valid and reliable stats can be conducted, but that procedure will bankrupt Nigerian government and will also be a way more risky especially for those (field workers) who will be used to collect stats in the North.

lezz:
south Africa is a third world country. as a matter of fact she is a living example of a third world country. all the indices pointing to under development is typical of southafrica eg, corruption, crime, sickness, poor data reliability, poor infrastructure. etc

now please do not assume I am unaware of some groups who used the word " industrialized" very loosely and in an inclusive term.

this group are just a lonely, irrelevant school of thought who aren't comfortable with the status quo. And they often seek the promotion and inclusion of pro gay countries through PR and unwarranted inclusions.There's no industry in southafrica that can't be found on some developing countries, neither is your standard of living or government efficiency out of the murky waters of a third world countries.


let us pardon China and Russia a little. any group that calls Brazil, India and southafrica developed, first world countries, is making a wishful proposition.
That group is merely seeking to create anew school of thought and a proposition of what wishful dreams and thinking should be.

below is an excerpt from the lips of a southafrican. althouth, it is still filled with self-praise and wishful thinking but enjoy the read : "Also the 40% unemployment, the 20% AIDS infection rate, the 62.18 deaths/1,000 live births infant mortality rate, the $10,700 (2003 est.) purchasing power parity (GDP per capita), although that isn't as bad as I thought it would be, say, compared to Afghanistan's $700 (2003 est.). (Statistics courtesy of the CIA World Factbook.)



Believe me the above comment from your fellow compatriot is sweet music compared to independent sources and findings of 2013/2014.

all the sources, I shall quote and reference will be in 2014. this will put you in your true light.
http://www.southafrica.com/forums/open-board/5815-why-southafrica-considered-third-world-country.html
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/06/south-africa-elections-20-years-democracy-apartheid

South Africa's competitive advantage in the developing world ... www.brandsouthafrica.com/.../1027-sout... Mobile-friendly - Jan 31, 2014 - ... important role developing countries, such as South Africa and Brazil, are playing in the 21st century.



if southafrica is a developed country in the true meaning of the world, then almost half the globe are industrialized, advanced first world countries.

but seeing the world for the first time in 1994, you wouldn't really know what's what.

you better ask somebody!!!

Do you even know that the source that one guy quoted from CIA World Factbook rates South Africa as a first world country. The world fact book had officially rated South Africa as a developed country long before SA could be rated as NIC by many authors and WB and IMF.



https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/appendix/appendix-b.html

Please press the letter "Dee" to access the list of developed countries as determined by CIA.

EVarn:
NIGERIAN AIRFORCE ARMED DRONES{AFRICA'S FIRST EVER WARDRONES} BOMBARDS BOKO HARAM POSITIONS IN NORTH EASTERN NIGERIA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoE2NcBZsqA
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A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT OF THE NIGERIA ARMY'S PROGRESS IN THE WAR AGAINST ISLAMIC TERRORISM.

MNJTF

dblock:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7424/15842545623_6a527bd4aa_o.gif

Gif that I created of a Nigerian Drone Strike.

So, should we believe this nonsense.

lezz:
It's almost impossible arguing with little minded bushmen from southafrica. Especially you. Your first source was dated in 2013. In 2013, Nigeria was not yet the economic power house of Africa.

We bleeped you out of the waters in April 2014.

50 thousand murders takes place in jobourg yearly.

Put that with the statistics of southafrica being the ràpe capital of the world. No.2 homicide rate in the world.
HIV/AIDS capital of the world. this has infiltrated your economic and military albeit social lives.

Where did your life expectancy stats come from?. You're selling off figures from few cities of Anglo-dutch settlements of kleifontein and atonia(spell check, please). The rest of southie settlement of the bush tribes of Zulu and tswana are built with grass huts that could not hold erect a standing adult.
Your "modernised" Soweto still has gaping toilets in the open where human wastes are left in the open and a few decent toilets are under lock and key.


Bush men from Zulu and Tswana řäpë infants in a devilish, satanic, pre historic belief that it cures HIV. Whites females are open targets of räpe and molest. How is SA better to live in?

Nigeria with boko Barak is still far better than your disillusional southafrica.

If you have a teenage daughter, if you are white, you are an open target of řäp. armed robbery, and murder. And the savage black tribes can't stand each other.


Nigerians are the most educated people in America today. They are more educated than the whites, Asians and African Americans. 17% has their PhD,

Today, the world watches as the bushmen from Zulu and tswana, your tribes- men, tear down every company, economy, infrastructure and orderliness the anglo-dutch has built, and thy say you are CURSED!!!
Today apartheid villain, e Klerk is seen as a hero in south Africa because your black ANC government is worse than the apartheid days.
And as Bishop Desmond Tutu said : WE NEVER HAD IT THIS BAD EVEN DURING THE APARTHEID DAYS.

Southafrica is a living embarrassment to every black man that walk the earth.

You are quoting sources and stats that reflects one southafrica, that does not exist in your world of experience.

That's why the world is waiting for Nigeria, the beacon of hope for every black man, including you.

It tells me a lot that you only know little about SA, the only modernised country in Africa. Each and every house in SA has sewage system and clean water which were built through an RDP programme, dummy.

About the murder stats, you are lying. SA had 8000 murders since 1994. More people where in fact killer in Nigeria than in SA.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


Every person with a sane mentality will tell you that it is better to live in SA than in Nigeria. The evidence can clearly be seen with thousands of foreigners in SA.


Nigeria can never and will never be a beacon of hope where people kill one another in devilish satanic manner of beheading. Black on black killing one another in the name of religion. How can such demonic people ever be hope to Africans at large?

notobs:
Oil price is never steady it rises and it falls. Those that pretend to know how to predict its rising or falling are in the category of our own charlatan TB joshua of the synagogue church of all nations,whom you SA worship as a God.

And By the way Nigerian economy is increasingly diversified and daily oil and gas is playing less role in our overall economy. If you were not on Nairaland daily pouring invective against Nigeria you would have known this.

Oil price has never reached this low of $46 a barrel. The economists have also said it will remain so low for over three years and will affect OPEC countries badly.

Lier, oil account to over 80% of Nigeria's revenues and makes over 40% of your GDP.

notobs:
And whats the poverty rate of SA. Compared to its population size? facts and figures please.

Is less very less.

Nigeria start to show signs of trouble concerning falling oil prices.

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKBN0L22ED20150129?irpc=932

The oil will remain low for over three years.

agaugust:
They are with you there in South Africa, unable to stop ordinary Rhino Poachers, American commandoes were invited into SA instead
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You are lying there is one guy that used to train us who has now resigned. He has also went there in Nigeria as a military expert. Dummy!!!

agaugust:
AU forces or MNJTF are the ones beating back Boko Haram inside Maiduguri city 3 times in 3 weeks, and the AU or MNJTF is the one raining artillery on the most powerful Boko Haram base inside Sambisa forest and advancing into the forest of death with Special Forces commandos ?

If AU = Nigerian military, then the President of South Africa = Robert Mugabe
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That could not convince AU about your competencies. They saw it fit that you needed help and that should you not receive the necessary help, BH will consume the whole of Nigeria in five years to come, just as the president of Chad noted.

lezz:
it is my pleasure and for your horror that I inform you that the quest to sign a defence pact with Nigeria dated back to Mbeki.

Now you further nailed yourself here by claiming to know better than your presidents.This has been your attitude in this forum. Saying what you don't know and speculating fact and twisting figures.

You are emotionally unstable as you seek to remedy your broken spirit on the Nigeria's e-forum.

We lead in economy, population, military, billionaires, IT, investment hub, telecominication, democracy, religion, dynamic and entrepreneural citizenry etc.

Go unfuck yourself. Dumb witted waste of humanity.

Just stop making a mockery of yourself. Mbeki is no longer the president of SA and I have even forgotten about him that he was ever the president of SA. To correct you Nigeria only leads Africa in population and economy and surely not in military, billionaires and religion as you speculated. Most of millionaires and billionaires in your country were downgraded as a result of devaluing your currency against a dollar, your number now lacks behind that of SA a and Egypt. You have only two different religions in your country i.e Muslims and Christians and apart from that you find none, so, how does that make you religious hub of the continent other than a war on religion that you have pelted on your people. Militarily, I won't even touch it because you don't even make top 5 list. Sorry, brother. Nigeria does not lead Africa.

lezz:
We already lead Africa,fool. It's southie that has no place in Africa. Your president is desperate to sign a defence pact with Nigeria. None of your political class has what it takes to even draw up a neat foreign policy. Former UN Secretary General, Koffi Annan told the world that Africa depends on what happens to Nigeria. Zimbabwean president said it in black and white very bluntly: WHEN NIGERIA SNEEZES AFRICA CATCHES COLD"

Domestic violence doesn't sell you any vote, boy. US battles with gang related crimes, massive homicides, drugs, terrorism, serial child murderers, gun control issues. So what, boy, they are still the world's police man. Like I said told you your grasp of international politics and foreign relations are as low as your countries foreign outlook.

You don't know, you don't want to know. And you can't know. You're putting on stupidity blinders.

You need come over to the synagogue for deliverance of mediocrity.

I don't know what will Zuma gain from signing a defence pact with a country which is itself a security problem. A country which does not produce lethal weapons nor even a superpower. How can that ever make Zuma so desperate. Perhaps, Zuma will do that to open doors for SA entrepreneurs to head to Nigeria and establish security companies which will suck Nigeria as dry. Apart from that there is nothing that Nigeria can ever give.

Bwahahahaha… to be honest save your comments for further embarrassment. Nigeria has never lead Africa, apart from population and economy.

stillchris:
killed by a Nigerian helicopter gunship. fool

Those are just speculations. On the ground there were Chadian and Cameroonian troops which beyond reasonable doubts could have killed him.

lezz:
ifou are in the military, then I can actually see mediocre and incompetence all over sa army. Poor poor you. How is this an AU war? Every participating countries are members of the lake chad basin comprising 4 neighbouring countries. Fightrtpilot, you can't read or comprehend elementary
geography or foreign affairs. Petty imposter.

You have a serious problem of understanding or either you don't watch and listen to the news. AU has taken a decision to take over Nigeria's war against terrorism which was also approved by UN in Ethiopia, dummy. The UN is funding for the war on behalf of AU, so now you can save your money and poke it at your back hole, AU will now fund for everything. It is now their responsibility to see what those troops eat, their well being and salaries. BH defeated your military and now AU finally took over. Thank you.

lezz:
how little thy brain is, oh fightertPilot!!
In 1994 blacks were liberated and over 1 million anglodutch fled. From 1994 to 2015 under ANC sa is decaying, rotting and stale.

Today, Anglo-dutch southies are like fish out of water. Not seen as Africans neityher viewed as westerners. So the town of kleinfontein is a sick symbol of identity of sa.
The blacks are generally seen as opportunists who claim what they didn't sow and have destroyed everything their western masters built. The rate of decline is evident in every segment of your national life. From economty to the army to finance and education.

Southafrica participated in world war 1 and 2 as an aglodutch extension of Europe. So you still havnt fought any war you led in your name.

Your weapons were piled up and acquired in fear and panic to suppress anti apartheid insurrection both from within sa and without. And when apartheid failed everything crumbled and is still crumbling as we speak from your jets to your ships and weapons.

Well Nigeria represents what Africa can do and has been doing. Leading ecowas and ecomog Liberia, sierraleon, Mali , Bosnia, saotome and Principe.

Southafrica is a harsh blend of confused colours on the wrong continent.
That's why you are without focus, your foreign policy is speculative and embarrassing. Today you are in middle east which is out of your class.
Tomorrow you're in Europe which is not your league. Next you are in Africa giving lonely and embarrassing opinion where you are viewed as pure rookies and novice freed into the free world in 1994.

You stand nowhere, under your feet is a floating abyss of nothingness and delusional sense of importance.

Day dreaming as usual. Mr racist, blacks have always been used to fight from WW1 and 2 in SA. There are many black soldiers who fought and were rewarded with plot of land during the heydays of colonization. Learn your history and master it well.

After 1994 democratic election no even more 100 000 of my volks left the shores of this country. We will never run away from SA. We love it and that's were I was born and bred. I dont know Europe and neither am I interested to live there. Only racists will ever do such cowardly act.

What I know about Nigeria is that it can never lead Africa. Where do you put a country that kills its own people in the driving seat. A country where black kill black so mercilessly. Sorry, If you fail to control your own country, how can you represent the whole of Africa?

lezz:
your army isnt tested yet and has never fought any battle. You and your southies on nairaland are all the army sa has.
Your frustrated rants are the weapons sa army never fired.

What's going on is a Nigeria led multi taskforce. It is a modern way of combat. Like the US led war in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

Now your opinion don't count. You are a southy and a rival. It's an open secret that you don't wish us well. God made us your betters.

Your country will be forever struggling with her identity and purpose

Every black southafrican needs to go unfuck yourself. The world is miles ahead of you.

I can see the frustration in you and can clearly see that you perceive SA as only black. Why don't you want to compare yourselves to the likes of us Whites SA?

SANDF/SADF was teated many time from WW1, WW2, Korean war, Bush war, Lesotho war, and even in CAR and they never failed us.

lezz:
the north eastern part of Nigeria is a vast territory that bounds Cameroon, Chad and holds the sambisa forest.

As a matter of routine, whenever the Nigeria military unleash massive military onslaught on bokoharam, they often escape into neighboring countries comprising the lake chad basin thereby killing and regrouping from there. Moreso, some sizeable numbers of boko fighters are from neighbouring west African states.
So Chad and Camerood and now Benin are actually fighting their own bokoharam as a way of personal survival.

Mind bokoharam operates in border villages that have no visible boundaries, hence participating countries are allowed to engage bokoharam from one their own end of the border into the other part of the border of neighbouring country.

Am I expecting you to see it logically, to see the plain facts? NO. You are not human enough to see and recognize hard truths and facts.

Your petty nature is as irrelevant as your narrow mindedness.

Nigerian army has entered bokoram's very strong hold and fortress: SAMNISSA FOREST. not the multinational task force.

That's an excuse. Your rag tag military should have contained BH right from the beggining before the problem far grows beyond your borders.

Hello, I am in the military and I know that since this is an AU war, Nigeria cannot do anything alone. Nigeria will never penetrate SAMBISA forest alone and they will never fight alone anymore.THIS IS AN AU WAR AND NO LONGER WITHIN NIGERIAS JURISDICTION.

BH defeated you and that's why AU has taken over. AU is now funding for the mission and troops involved except Nigeria's are now receiving their pay cheques from AU.

lezz:
the north eastern part of Nigeria is a vast territory that bounds Cameroon, Chad and holds the sambisa forest.

As a matter of routine, whenever the Nigeria military unleash massive military onslaught on bokoharam, they often escape into neighboring countries comprising the lake chad basin thereby killing and regrouping from there. Moreso, some sizeable numbers of boko fighters are from neighbouring west African states.
So Chad and Camerood and now Benin

The fact remains, the NE is in Nigerian territory and hence their responsibility or don't you want it anymore?

The last time I read about people fleeing to other neighbouring countries were your own people and your military. Remember when they ended up in Cameroon and Niger and brought about a simple excuse of taking a tactical maneuver.

lezz:
Your tears wouldn't make you notice even if I pointed it out to you.
And stop this embarrassment; I can feel the heat of your shame miles across this platform to where I'm sitting.
Your tears are adding to the flood washing away your lame attempts at bravery and tenacity.
Give it son.

You should be dreaming. Why would he cry for something which he is not related with by blood? The only thing which will make him cry is when SANDF is defeated by rag tag insurgents at home; when they are taking to their heels and losing bases to the convenience of insurgents; when fellow civilians are being massacred right under the noses of SANDF; when we are losing land because of forceful land grabs by insurgents; and when SANDF is so incapable to the extend of using help from civilians in battle and even asking our neighbours to join hands. I think that will be a disgrace which will drag tears to fall down his chicks just like it does in you.


Hopefully, you are the one who is supposed to be crying looking into how your military has been reduced. From what used to be regional superpowers to rag tag malnourished force which lacks weapons to fight. To be realistic, Nigeria is just a shadow of their past and they are no longer a force to be reckon with. Nigerian military is no different from Burundi armed forces or any army from Haiti. They have dissolved faster than expected. There is nothing left to ever boast about no matter how hard you will try, because all the weaknesses of your military have been exposed to the world where even Djibouti is so confident to take you man-on-man.

agaugust:
South Africans on this forum are angry because Nigerian military started final offensive and Boko Haram is on the run and Nigeria is winning the war !
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[size=18]Wrong(X). The only thing that makes us angry is the rag tag Nigerian army which runs away from the insurgents leaving civilians behind all in their own. Now that they got the boost from strong hardened Chadian troops and Cameroonians we hope that the Chadians will flush them out.[/size]

mzilakazi:
The misinformed Minister of Nigeria should be ashamed and bury his head on the sand. SA is not up for privatization of its power sector.

[size=18]We will never privatize ESKOM[/size]



http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-08-05/south-africa-considers-private-capital-for-eskom-power-supply

That minister should be ashamed for telling the people of Nigeria lies by suggesting that SA is now on the verge of privatizing ESKOM. He should have done research and would have noticed that SA took a decision long ago not to privatize ESKOM. Well, it is understandable that the crazy minister was canvassing for Jonathan by using lies. He fails to even produce more than 5000MW of power for his own people and now he falsely claim that a country which produces more than 40 000MW is modeling his boss' futile policies. He should run and throw himself in the ocean.

agaugust:
SANDF denied it . Nigerian army denied it. Na you personally see them in Abuja?

#Show Us SA Mercenaries In Nigeria...I Showed You American mercenaries In Kruger park
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I also haven't seen a single picture of SA mercenary in Iraq and Afghanistan but I know for sure that thousands and thousands of SA left the army and went there. So in the case of Nigeria let us wait and see, perhaps someone might see them in Nigeria and publish their image.

NaijaPikinGidi:
In your dreams! Most certainly in Kruger Park.

Facts are facts and can never be denied.

http://www.iol.co.za/the-star/sa-mercenaries-may-just-fit-the-bill-1.1811530#.VM1MA_lBtAg

NaijaPikinGidi:
Nigeria is not seeking personal military help! Rather we are requesting our neighbours to tighten-up their border security to prevent BH from running across easily each time we apply the hard squeeze on them. Nigeria is asking our neighbours to stand up and fight-off the terrorists using their territories as bases and launch pads against Nigerian citizens and border communities.

It is certain that the heat is on!

Don't worry you have our mercenaries in action to do the job for you.


http://www.iol.co.za/the-star/sa-mercenaries-may-just-fit-the-bill-1.1811530#.VM1MA_lBtAg

agaugust:
Mercenaries are private men, not SANDF, did your mercenaries fight for you against Seleka in Bangui?

Those mercenaries are not your national army, or they also fly your Gripens and sail your Submarines ?

Many countries have mercenaries, not only you, they are NOT counted as a national military force.

Apartheid mercenaries will NEVER help South Africa in war, they are your sworn enemies who oppressed you in Soweto.

Reason why SANDF paid Brazil that has zero war experience to train SANDF for war in Congo DRC, why did you not get training from your experienced mercenaries of they are truly loyal to South Africa? LOL....Private men, not your army....and those guys are enemies of ANC 1
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Mercenaries are former and ex SANDF + SADF members. They are born and bred SA and trained with the SA tax money.


Brazil defeated Argentina many a times and will even crash Nigeria in one day.

NaijaPikinGidi:
Shameless!! I thought it would have meant more to you if Zuma could have had the balls to send your photogenic SANDF to do the job? So far I don't hear South Africa making any personal calls. HOWEVER, it is clear that there is ... and will be NO foreign boots on Nigerian soil. We are doing what we should be doing ... surely and steadily.

SA mercenaries have already closed the gap.

http://www.iol.co.za/the-star/sa-mercenaries-may-just-fit-the-bill-1.1811530#.VM1MA_lBtAg

SA mercenaries in Nigeria.


http://www.iol.co.za/the-star/sa-mercenaries-may-just-fit-the-bill-1.1811530#.VM1MA_lBtAg

agaugust:
[size=16pt] SANDF is NOT = Private Mercenary men

Also, SANDF and NA denied their existence in Nigeria....

Show us their photos, as I showed you American soldiers both current service men and retired mercenaries fighting inside Kruger Park to save SANDF ...

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Nah!! We've helped the US a lot by the splendid job done by our mercenaries in Iraq. We trained their army and learnt them how to fight insugency, the same way we are doing to your troops. I guess it was now time for them to pay back our favour.

EVarn:
and our police stations arent neat?.

Sort of.