₦airaland Forum

agaugust:
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NPO Nash really fooled you including many jurnos for
registering kondor E as civilian satellite when it was
infact a military spy satellite which was meant to be
treated with confidentiality. Bwahahaha… You fell to a
trap agaugau.

agaugust:
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The wealth of any country cannot be measured in terms of the size of GDP. The source is very unreliable and unscientific. The wealth of any country is measured using GDP per capita to see how much a person is worth in that particular country. That source is really drank. You will fail in varsity should you refer to that source. In fact, the source should have said " countries with the biggest GDP"

agaugust:

Nope, it is a small civilian satellite built for civilian Russian ministry called ministry of defense, confirmed by Russia itself

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NPO Nash really fooled you including many jurnos for registering kondor E as civilian satellite when it was infact a military spy satellite which was meant to be treated with confidentiality. Bwahahaha… You fell to a trap agaugau.

agaugust:
Fool, Swingfire is British, T-72 tank is Russian so it carries a Russian ATGM. Fool !

Agaugau, the only ATGM that you have is an outdated swingfire. Since, when did you acquire Russian ATGM and please show us a proof.

Henry120:
It's simple Economics dummy.

With falling crude oil prices, it makes sense to devalue the currency instead of dipping into the dollar reserves to support the naira.

Mumu.

Just a remainder, asides the Cedi, the Rand is Africa's worst performing currency against the dollar in 2014.

As at today, the SAAF has only 9 Gripen pilots, for 26 Gripen jets.

Yet it is not economically sound. You naira sank to the bottom after you devalued it. Devaluing currency means you accepted defeat.

The only military which is financially broke is that of Nigeria, proven by many of their commanders including their President Jonathan after he publicly admitted financial crisis within the force. The president even requested approval before the parliament to borrow $1 billion through foreign loans. Nigerian military is marred by many financial troubles of upgrading and replacing outdated equipment and even to pay their soldiers. They don't have money to do all that. No money to do battle exercises and to sharpen the skills of their fighter pilots.

Nigerian military is really broke on real terms

Henry120:
And your Rand has performed worse than the Naira this year.


The only service broke here is your SAAF. It is written all around you, from your 9 Gripen pilots to your 3 C-130's for a 1.2 million KM area.

They all scream....... broke.

Nah, that was until you decided to devalue your
naira voluntarily because of the mounting pressure
and yet you are expected again to devalue your
currency further. Just a remainder, ZAR has more
value than naira. Fact!!!


SAAF does not have 9 pilots anymore as at today it their number stand safely above 15. That information of 9 pilots was in 2010 when we first received delivery of our gripen C. I proved you wrong with pictures for the new pilots who are expected to pass out in 2015 as qualified gripen pilots.

@Henry- this is just for information. SANDF budget is expected to climb to a whooping $8-10 billion after the approval of the defence review 2014 by the parliament. mark my word.

agaugust:
You have ZERO re-engineering and construction skills in South Africa. Your country cannot slant a vertical tube to horizontal position.

Reason why Chinese engineers are your masters in defense manufacturing industry worldwide. ANC fools !
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Nah, that was until you decided to devalue your naira voluntarily because of the mounting pressure and yet you are expected again to devalue your currency further. Just a remainder, ZAR has more value than naira. Fact!!!

Henry120:
Nigeria's Defence budget for 2014 is 5.9 billion, approximately 6 billion. The President approved an extra-budgetary 1 billion dollars at WEF africa, and an additional 1 billion in loan.

Bwahahahaha… So, you are changing again? Nigerias defence budget is $4.5 billion if we were to count it with today's rates for naira against dollar.


You are a pathetic liar, Mr Henry. Your Nigerian defence budget is no better to SANDF. For many years your defence have been allocated a budget worth less than $3 billion, year after year and that of SANDF had always been above $4 billion. Just for the first time in your history competing with SANDF budget, you already feel like you have conquered all.

SANDF projects.


http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-419/

Henry120:
Please forward this question to Jln115, he's a south-african like you, he claims so.

Our budget is $8 billion dollars, yours is $3 billion dollars, definitely not the same.

Mr Henry, you threw yourself under the bus this time. Surely, well see you next year after this embarrassment of being caught lying.

Nigeria is broke, they can never afford a budget of $8 billion, that will kill Nigeria financially. However, they could only afford $4.5 billion as at today since your naira has sunk down to the bottom against american dollar.

patches689:
Nigerias defence budget is N968.127 billion - $5 Billion
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/161390-jonathan-signs-nigerias-2014-budget-defence-gets-20-per-cent.html

SANDF defence budget is $4.572 billion
http://www.treasury.gov.za/documents/national%20budget/2012/enebooklets/Vote%2022%20Defence%20and%20Military%20Veterans.pdf

liar

Thank you. My fellow countryman. I estimated the amounts almost correctly. I knew their budget was not above $6 billion. That came after their President wanted to borrow an additional $1 billion from abroad. Thank you very much for correcting him. It must also be noted that their budget is combined with that of the police. Nigeria is one country that also allocate small budget for their defence. It had always been the case for many years.

Henry120:
Please forward this question to Jln115, he's a south-african like you, he claims so.

Our budget is $8 billion dollars, yours is $3 billion dollars, definitely not the same.

Nigeria's defence and security budget is not $8 billion, the correct amount is $6 billion correction: $5 billion. Over the years Nigeria's defence budget was always a mere $2.8 billion.


SA defence budget is not $3 billion and even in the past 10 years, it had always been above $4 billion. The correct budget for 2014 was $ 4.8 billion. SA security budget is over $10 billion, Thank you. So, tell me who had more money?

It takes minimum of five years for a pilot to qualify as gripen fighter pilot. In 2010 when SA received their gripen C we had almost 8 pilots and 2 navigators and has since multiplied slowly to 14 pilots and 4 navigators, but now things have changed. The new kids on the blog will add to that number to make it 26 in 2015/16. Just keep on watching this space.

We are going forward surely but slowly.

I guote :

To solo on the Gripen should typically take new pilots five years, 2 Squadron's operations officer, Lt Col Musa
“Midnite” Mbhokota told journalists in October. This includes basic military training (three months), officers
forming course (a further three months), the Military Academy (one year) and basic pilot training (one year).
The latter includes 180 hours on the Pilatus PC7 MkII. Next follows some 390 hours on the Hawk at 85 CFS
before posting to 2 Squadron where conversion to the Gripen takes place, starting with six weeks in the
classroom followed by 70 hours on the Squadron Level Mission Trainer (a flight simulator) and a further 70
hours on the aircraft. Both periods include 30 hours of conversion training, 20 hours of air warfare training
and 20 hours of surface warfare training. It then takes a further six sorties to solo.



http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11203:saaf-boasts-23-fighter-aircrew&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

move forward, step by step.

Moving forward slowly but surely.

I really like it, new fighter pilots on the block.


http://www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1326/saaf-gains-ten-new-pilots

sirjerry:
sorry to disappoint you, we've claim that title before

Sorry to disappoint you, we've claimed the title three times.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Miss_World_titleholders

agaugust:
I proved you wrong technically and historically
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Yet you were technically and historically incorrect. You quoted incidences out of context and you failed to also note that Argentinian jets were also shot down on the process. You also failed to note that the naval SAM and Air defence system has revolutionised from 1986 to date. The only advanced SAM in the folklands war could only achieve a range of 3km and were not radar operated. The valour class of today is more sophisticated and advanced that the British frigates that sank in 1982. Sorry!! sir you bounced.

agaugust:
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One of the easy ways to know when Nigerians have totally defeated South Africans....

....the Southies begin to attack themselves
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I just wonder how will the base bleed help you in this discussion. Remember, I just only agree with your claim yet without a proof. By the way base bleed shells are not something to boast about, they are very cheap and can be afforded by many militaries across the world. SA manufacture base bleed ammo and VLAP, so it is not something one can make a noise about. I saw BB shells many a times at combat center being fired by gunners from Potchefstroom, the very city where those shells are being manufactured under Denel-Rheinmettal.

agaugust:
F-7NI jet is a year 2010 3.5 generation jet and is more advanced than the Argentinian Skyhawk jets that have NO radar at all, and NO flares-chaff self defences, yet those old Skyhawks sank British warships that had anti-aircraft missiles by using dumb unguided bombs.

Your Umkhonto missile max range 15km has been rendered useless by F-7 jets attacking from above which is the weak point of Umkhonto, it has maximum ceiling/altitude/climb height of ONLY 8km

NAF is attacking you from 9km safe from ALL your missiles, carpet bombing you with incendiary, fragmentation, and high explosive bombs untill your Valour frigate is either roasted from above or your Navy surrenders and we take your ships into Lagos Naval base for display to BBC and CNN

Your Soweto military academy did not teach you that a warship with no aircraft carrier escort is a sitting duck on water for enemy air forces to play with like a toy

Ya gonna get sunk like a paper boat, ya Valour frigates gonna get sunk by NAF
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Wahahaha.... You have such a good plans to destroy valour class, and unfortunately no fighter can eject free fall bombs at that height. Remember, jets are not helicopters where they can remain stationery in the sky at one point for longer. Ejecting free fall bombs at that height is a waist of energy and time. My advice is just admit that F7 will not defeat valour class.

Modern warships with advanced SAM and air defence system can only be defeated from the distance by cruise missile which can be discharged from 100 km away. However, any warship with a good CISW system can also destroy long range cruise missiles.

agaugust:
Free fall bombs....Carpet bombing tactics
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Agaugust, your F7 will not defeat the valour class, period.

agaugust:
Oh so now you confess Nigeria has Base Bleed? You denied it over 20 times here few months ago, I trapped you @Patches

Indian army video showed Bofors with NO 52 cal, it is standard barrel.

Anyway NA, NN, NAF also have AHEAD ammo Chinese/Russian equivalent. Good to go to war against every SANDF missiles now !

India currently is testing only Bofors guns with 52L barrel. They are looking for a replacement of their 39L with 52L barrel.

agaugust:
Nope dude, the ONLY VERSION of Umkhonto missile in SAN service today is the 15km maximum range and 8km maximum ceiling version, the rest you do NOT have !

F-7 jet flying at 9km ceiling CANNOT be touched by any weapon existing in the whole of South Africa.....F-7 rocket pods have range 6km

Your navy warships can also be carpet bombed with timed fused bombs to explode at close range below quarter km above your ship spreading and splashing 3 types of munistions, fragmentation bombs, incendiary fire bombs, and high expolsive bombs to shower bath your Valour frigatse in flames and explosives, while the F-7 flies at very low speed at 9km ceiling out of range/ceiling of your Umkhonto missile.

It hurts you Southies how a $15 milliom NAF F-7 jet can easily sink a $300 million over-priced and poorly defended SAN Valour frigate.

There are 3 different ways to easily sink your wishy washy Soweto navy !
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Chief, I know and that was only to show you that umkhonto missiles of better range are also still on the way. However, F7 would still not be able to beat that 15 km range. You simply took incidences that happened during the folklands war and completely forgotten that the air defence system of warships has since advanced. in 1982 the only better system that was better was sea wolf with a range of 3kms and still British warships managed to shoot down four of Argentinian fighter jets.

Today, the system has since developed by lessons learnt from that war. Warships are more dangerous than ever against any plans or jet that flies above its roof.

agaugust:
SIPRI does not record ammo, so Nigerian Bofors artillery has 42km range Base Bleed shells because SIPRI does not record shells, Nigerian air force also has Belouga cluster bombs because SIPRI does not record unguided bombs, Nigerian army Type 90 AAA also has Chinese version of tungsten ammo used for their own CIWS and Type 90 AAA in anti-missile mode, and Nigerian navy RWS gun has Chinese tungsten ammo for CIWS too in anti-missile role......Now let the party begin....@Patches has walked into a well set trap !


Let the battlefield change from now, WE ALL have AHEAD ammo or it's Asian equivalent ! Thanks bro !

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Yes, you have a BB but your ordnance of your artillery guns have a 39L barrel. You still need to upgrade it to 52L to achieve a better range of 39-42km.

agaugust:
Show me where SANDF imported AHEAD ammo from Germany. Gripen jet uses anti-ship missile, yet do you have it? NO !

Your DENEL gun fires locally made ordinary ammo. FACT !
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You are a real dummy. Denel CIWS fire AHEAD ammo against cruise and anti-ship missiles. Finish and Klaar.

EVarn:
indeed.zuma is a thieving crook that needs to be expelled from the south african government system.as it stands,in nigeria,goodluck jonathan is almost 100% sure to be voted out next year,though he did good to the economy,the man is very undiplomatic.can you imagine a president saying that:
*"common stealing isnt corruption"
*"boko haram are my brothers,and i cant kill my brothers"
*"i will not declare my asset,and i dont give a damn about it"

Nope, Jonathan cannot go now, we love him so much. He is very good at us. No, you can't say that.

agaugust:
Valour frigate CIWS has no AHEAD ammo. Your freaking CIWS has only 4km max range and only one unit on board.

The bolded part is the magic, yes ! I am flying my F-7 jet backwards, surprised? A good F-7 pilot will sink a Valour frigate, NAF is master of air to surface combat in all Africa today, even Egypt CANNOT match Nigeria in air to ground combat skills and current experience
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I do not see any importance of an Ahead ammo on the CIWS. An ordinary R4 round will penetrate F7 fighter.


Meanwhile, The denel™ CIWS system uses AHEAD ammo particularly to fire at missiles.



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denel_35mm_Dual_Purpose_Gun

agaugust:
Use any language, it's not a permanent seat, South Africa will end it's term and go, another country will take over your seat, you become ordinary floor member again....get it ?

We can contest over and over if we want and rule on that chair for many years.

agaugust:
15 million out of 50 million South Africans have ZERO access to electricity and TOO POOR to buy generator
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That is ludicrous. SA has only 2 million households in informal settlement without electricity as at 2014/12/14. All the towns, villages and townships in SA are electrified and only those households in remote villages which are located on the mountains and where it is virtually impossible to erect poles are without electricity.

patches689:
85 million Nigerians dont have acess to electricity

There are more Nigerians without electricity than there are South Africans

It is worth more than that.