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Henry120:
What a comic relief of a response.

Nobody is approving any more loans for you. You SANs should wake up from your hallucinations.

Jealousy is working hard in your blood. SA pockets are deeper than Nigeria's. Die if you want to.

Henry120:
SA got her independence in 1994.

Nope, 1994 marks South Africa's first democratic election where enfranchisement was granted to all irrespective of colour. It marks freedom rather than independence which was long achieved in 1910.

jln115:
Yes and SA as current definition began in 1837, and got its independence in 1948.

SA gained its independence from Britain in 31 May 1910. Apartheid started in 1948 through National party after it won national elections.

Henry120:
Nigeria in it's current definition began in 1914, when it was amalgamated.

We gained our independence in 1960, dropped the union jack, a flew our colour.

We've always had large notable empires in Nigeria, which pre-date the british.

Benin empire
Kanem-bornu empire
Sokoto caliphate etc etc

So, when did you had your first democratic elections?

Henry120:
Do you even know how you paid for those Gripens you have no money to fly?

You had no money when you first ordered them, you still cannot afford them 15 years later.

You got upto 40% in unpaid loans, you think any bank would grant you a fresh loan to purchase a fresh number of boats you cannot afford?

If you believe you're getting new boats, you must still be stuck in lala land.

Lies!! Lies!!! Lies!!!


SA has money to operate griffins, the only problem is that the prioritization of budget vote is focused elsewhere. The defense review will remedy the situation.

As far as the bank loans is concerned your claims are unfounded because the griffin jets and everything else were bought on cash. The only items which were bought through bank financing were the submarines reason being there were reservations with their serviceability. SA, thus did not want to gamble with the tax payers money since the bank also approved insurances for them.

AugustineAgain:
Simple mathematics, combat radius vs speed vs payload.

Maths that South African teachers can NEVER teach you, we know it in Nigeria

The lower the combat radius the heavier the ordnance of a fighter.

AugustineAgain:
Please bring a South African professional accountant here to face me, I have been asking since 2 years ago, no Southie accountant dared to accept my challenge o !

We accountants know NOTHING about product quality, how many will we know in this world? Cars, food, machines, aircraft, guns, furniture, building materials, chemicals, medicine/pharmaceuticals....etc You must be insaane to think accountants will judge tenders for all kinds of product quality world wide.

It is the job of purchasing and supply professionals and the technical experts in each field of the products being purchased.

Ever seen where accountants judge quality of chemicals and engines in this world? Full time fool, you Southie guys start an argument, trap yourselves in a tight corner of big error, and struggle to lie your way out of it, becoming more and more foolish and embarrassed in the process, instead of backing out of a wrong opinion when you still have some honour left....fools

Fool of Pretoria where there are no qualified teachers in the fine painted schools
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@agaugust, stop fooling yourself, you are not a professional charted accountant. Such professions will hardly find time to engage in military talks. What they do they mean business 24/7.

AugustineAgain:
Algeria has the most modern military in Africa, Ethiopia is one of the most deadly. Both are missing from that list mister morooon

Algeria cannot even build a radar, my answer is South Africa.

Henry120:
South-Africa is we know it only began to exist in 1994.

SA existed long before the could be a country called Nigeria. 1994 was only the first democratic elections of SA and Nigeria's first democratic elections came later. So, should we say Nigeria started to exist only in 1996 or 98?

AugustineAgain:
I know that there are no qualified teachers in South African schools, my own local Nigerian teacher thought me to read well.

See the bottom of the image, it CLEARLY says Valkiri-Bateleur.....

You need to come to a Nigerian school and learn how to read

Anyway, Igirigi is more beautiful than your ugly faced South African Valkiri

If you live in a glass house don't throw stones !
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Agaugust you were dubbed my friend. Valkiri is a bit smaller and is no longer in use. Yet the bateleur took its design but a bit bigger and more powerful.

AugustineAgain:
Feel sorry for your South African over-diluted education, I went to a local Nigerian school, yet I can use mach 2 and the combat radius to mathematically calculate the combat flight time and recce endurance time of a Gripen jet.

Your ANC republic does not deem it fit to educate you up to basic maths and science standards that can help you compete with other Africans.

Togolese are smarter than you Southies.

Gripen jet maximum travel time in the air is 20 minutes with heavy load, including time to travel to and fro the target location, so real time for combat operation above battlefield is about 3 minutes

$50 million dollar jet becomes poor value for money, news report says an Asian/European country was also bribed by Sweden's SAAB to buy the worthless over-priced Gripen jet.

Gripen needs bribery to sell most of the time, because it is a bad jet for the price.

Gripen jet proves that Quality IS NOT EQUAL to high price
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In fact, we should be the ones pitying Nigerian education system. The general understanding pertaining to combat radius of fighters is that the lower the combat radius the better the fighter. Most powerful single engine empowered fighters have combat radius of less than 800 km because of their heavy ordnance. JF-17 has a very light ordnance hence it can fly longer than 2000km with only few armaments. F16 has even less than 500 km and is considered a better fighter than JF-17. You cannot even mention JF-17 and Griffin in one sentence because the griffin fighter is far more sophisticated than JF-17 because it can refuel on the sky without having to touch the ground.

The JF-17 is totally not a good dog fighter since its inability to overcome radar will expose it to the griffin pilot long before the JF-17 pilot notice the presence of the Griffin jet.

SA celebrate 75 years of radar technology. SA has been developing radar way before even @agaugust's father could be born.


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37126:reutech-launches-book-on-radar-in-south-africa&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116

SAN steps up technology.


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37269:technology-boost-for-cybicom-atlas-defence&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116

AugustineAgain:
I proved my $2 Billion value. You should be honest enough to admit that.

Define blue water navy from dictionary and lets see where NNS centenary, NNS Unity, NNS Thunder and NNS Okpabana will stand after sailing from Lagos to Australia without refuelling, I guess the deep ocean is not blue from Lagos to Australia, it's all brown swamp river water according to South African educational textbooks
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We do not need to approach dictionary in this instance. The finalisation of this matter is that NN does not have a blue water capability. You can sail over it yet you do not have the capability to combat over it.

AugustineAgain:
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[size=16pt]Currently active Special Forces in Africa :

Nigeria's highly experienced Special Forces battle inside Balmo Forest this week

"The Nigerian Army has discovered a plan by the Boko Haram insurgents to attack 25 communities and villages spread across five states in the troubled North-East zone.

A credible security source, who confided in our correspondent on Thursday, said that the Boko Haram hit list was recovered by Special Forces during an operation at the Balmo Forest.

According to the source, the targeted communities are spread across five states of Adamawa, Borno, Bauchi, Gombe, Yobe.

The source said, “There are 25 towns and communities mentioned in the Balmo Forest hit list of the sect recovered by the troops.


http://www.punchng.com/news/bharam-army-uncovers-plot-to-invade-five-states/

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Nigeria does not have so called experienced special forces. All Nigeria's special forces are still inexperienced and well in an infancy stage. Nigeria atmy has no any previous history of utilising special ops in its existence, thus, it will be an insult to the special forces brigades across the world to ever brand Nigerian special forces as highly experienced.

Henry120:
2014 is almost done, for a supposed 2012 review.

Why are you in such a hurry? Defence review is a reality which will happen and see SANDF as the most modern military in Africa.


DEFENCE REVIEW BEFORE PARLIAMENT

23-7-2014
Pretoria – Defence and Military Veterans Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula says she hopes Parliament will treat the finalisation of the Defence Review as a matter of “critical urgency”.
The Defence Review Committee unveiled its comprehensive Defence Review Report earlier this year.
The objective of the review is to create a balanced, flexible and modern force, which uses advanced technology in response to the changing nature of the defence function globally.
The review was approved by Cabinet in March this year, and was thereafter sent to Parliament.
Addressing the media ahead of her department’s Budget Vote in Parliament on Wednesday, Minister Mapisa-Nqakula said the country is engaged in a useful but “long overdue” public discourse about the mandate and scope, the design and resourcing of the Defence Force going into the future.
“This discourse, based on the 2014 Defence Review, is finally now here in Parliament, and accordingly must
constitute a significant part of this Budget Debate today.
“While there are many current topical issues and ongoing programmes within the defence environment, our work in this financial year has to be subject to the implementation programme of the Defence Review, once finalised by
Parliament,” she said.
Minister Mapisa-Nqakula said the ministry has in the meantime created full-time capacity to develop a
methodology for implementing the Defence Review after Parliament finalises it.

Rebuilding the force

The review essentially points to a decline in the capabilities of the Defence Force due to an insufficient budget allocated to defence.
In accordance with the Defence Review, in the coming years, the Defence Force must heighten its reaction,
protection, peacekeeping and combat capabilities. Likewise, maritime and cyber-defence security must be upgraded.
Minister Mapisa-Nqakula said her department is looking at a Defence Development Programme spanning 20 years, divided into four Medium Term Strategic Framework (MTSF) periods of five years each.
According to the minister, the first MTSF is the current period 2014/15 to 2018/10. The next five years strategic
programme will be based on the aspects of the Defence Review for the first MTSF period.
“The strategic intent of the ministry in the next five years will be built into the planning cycle of government and will be aligned to support the National Development Plan (NDP) , the New Growth Path and the Industrial Policy Action Plan,” Minister Mapisa-Nqakula said.
“In addition, it is also going to be important that the implementation of the Defence Review takes into
consideration the tasks and commitments for defence arising from the new National Security Strategy,” she said.
The Defence Review also provides a coherent account of how the South African National Defence Force is able to contribute to South Africa’s overall socio-economic growth, if its policies are to be adequately financed, developed and implemented. – SAnews.gov.za


http://www.sanews.gov.za/south-africa/defence-review-parliament

AugustineAgain:
Why not descend on the English speaking Southern Cameroon that want's to break away and form a new country?

I know NAF F-7 jet is a terror to all Cameroonians not to mention NAF's incoming JF-17 Thunder.

Your fear has just begun, French slave of Paris
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JF-17 IS AN OVERRATED EASTERN FIGHTER WITH TOO MANY WEAKNESSES.


The JF-17 lack stealth capability, a feature which will make it very expensive should it be integrated on its later variants, however, both China and Pakistan have already made it clear that there are no intentions to make JF-17 a stealth fighter. Any fighter without a stealth capability is more like a flying casket since you will be exposed to the enermy long before it is necessary. A stealth capability makes fighters to remain undetected for very long time until it is noticed by a nakedd eye flying in your vicinity and by then it will already be too late to launch countermeasures. Stealth fighters have the ability to beat radar radioactivity and the same time detect the enermy beforehand, a capability that makes it a vicious killer.


JF-17 have a poor pay load to handle heavy ordnances and such capability makes it only good as a hit and run fighter. However, that capability is only possible to be used against rebels since a fully fledged force would detect it long before it launches attack through a radar and thus activate countermeasures beforehand. The JF-17 pilot would have been dead before he tries to do anything.

JF-17 is a poor interceptor with a maximum speed of mach 1.6. How will it intercept fighters with a maximum speed of over mach 2 since most 4th gen fighter carry such speed? Surely, that is one feature that JF-17 does not have, it was only meant to meet the pockets of poor countries riddled with insurgency and not to counter fully fledged Airforce, because YOU WILL DIE.

The group of SAAF 25 pupil fighter pilots, 11 of which are white, 12 blacks, and 2 females. They all graduated in 2009.

agaugust:
[size=16pt]All we see is Boko Haram running like chicken everytime Nigerian army attacks.

Boko keeps abandoning their Islamic Caliphate Kingdoms and moving from city to city getting chased like goats.

Haramites have become beasts of no nation....homeless....dying at the mercy of Naija bullets.

Best army in Africa flushed Boko Haram down in the toilet in Chibok again !!!

http://www.punchng.com/news/military-recaptures-chibok-from-boko-haram/

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Don't you think that is too early to celebrate? Your military and Boko Haram are just playing cat and mouse.

agaugust:
Super powers fight real wars, Afghanistan, Iraq, Falklands, Bosnia etc.

All standard armies of this world fire at wood during training, even Togo Republic does it, so what's special if SANDF fires at wood in training, are you trying to impress the army of Lesotho ?

Nigeria fights real wars after real training at defence academy, and periodic exercises and shooting range competitions

SANDF is forever sleeping at home with wives and prostitutes that refresh their HIV viral load
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American troops do stimulatory battle exercises the most part of their military career at home before they can be deployed to the battle field. No wonder Nigerian military is caused to run helter-skelter in disarray by just a ragtag Boko Haram.

patriot4: Actually Nigeria has just made a purchase of a number of T72s and T84 Oplots, it even came out in the news, just google : Nigeri T84 oplot ukrain.

I ALWAYS EMPHASISE THE POINT THAT NIGERIA'S PURCHASES ARE MERELY CLOSE GAPS. JUST TWO OR FOUR OF THAT AND FEW OF THOSE. NO MAJOR ARMS DEAL.

AugustineAgain: Roland SAM optical targeting system works perfectly at night with infra red capability.....

"The ROLAND 2 weapon system is intended for anti-aircraft defence of armoured and mechanized the units to counter aircraft flying to nearly Mach 1.5 and hovering helicopters. Deployed on a tracked vehicle derived from the tank AMX 30, it comprises a radar with a range of 16 km, a sighting tube with an infra-red locator that measures the difference between the missile in flight and the line of sight of the fire control radar, and a computer antenna for remote control. Two arm-beams for launching carry each one a missile in its launching tube, and two ammunition stores for munitions each contain one 4 shot mechanism forautomatic unloading of the arm-beam. The crew of the vehicle consists of three man. commands necessary to the correction by the real variations of the missile compared to the axis of aiming measured by the infra-red goniometer (optical mode) , or compared to the direction of the target the commands are transmitted to the missile by the transmitter of remote control."

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/roland.htm

The speed of Roland missile is 1,600 km/hr and 5 times faster than Rooivalk speed of 300 km/hr .

Dude, we have spent months on this Roland matter since last year, I won't waste my precious time repeating old story.

Nigeria's 300 Roland missiles will sh.oot down ALL South African air force in 5 minutes, that fact remains on record.

CASE CLOSED !
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THERE IS NO SUCH FEATURE IN ALL THE ROLANDS IN THE WORLD. ROLAND OPTICAL SYSTEM DOES NOT HAVE THAT WHICH YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. STOP BRINGING IN NEW FEATURES WHICH GRANDPA OLD ROLAND DOES NOT HAVE. WE ALL KNOW ROLAND IS AN OLD HORSE WAITING FOR REPLACEMENT WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN EFFECTED IN YEAR 2000.

AugustineAgain: Roland SAM has radar, and radar works day and night, or else your SAAF air force radars too don't work at night. Equation balanced

Roland electro-optics works at night and you cannot jam optical sight.

NATO jets could not jam Roland radar every time they met, the British jets get sh.ot down in war records we all know .

SAAF will have to face NAF if you want to launch Mokopa anti-tank missile, we can have helicopter air war for show !

South Africa = 10 Rooivalk combat helicopters = total 10 units

Nigeria = 30 current + 40 new combat helicopters = total 70 units

Sure your Rooivalks will be sh.ot down in the air before they even find any Nigerian tank....we will waste your Mokopa before you launch it !

I have not even used F-7 jets yet !

https://oi58.tinypic.com/10f50cl.jpg

https://informationng.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/naf-f7-ni-airguard.jpg
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[i]DO YOU MEAN YOUR 40 NEW IMAGINERY GUNSHIPS? MAJORITY OF YOUR HELICOPTERS WERE INOPERABLE, SO DID I HAD TO REMIND YOU?

ROLANDS RADAR SYSTEM IS THE WEAKEST RADAR ON MOTHER EARTH TO BE JAMMED. ONCE IT IS JAMMED IT CAN ONLY BE OPERATED MANUALLY AND THE WORST OF ALL, ONLY DURING THE DAY THROUGH ITS OPTICAL SIGHTS. SURELY THAT WILL NEED A BROUGHT DAY LIGHT TO ENABLE YOU TO AIM AT THE LOW FLYING AITCRAFTS WHICH WILL SOMETIMETIMES BE MUCH FASTER THAN YOU. YOUR ROLAND WILL ONLY GIVE YOU MORE PROBLEMS MY FRIEND.[/I]

chris365: i heard typing in capital letters is for retarrds. is it true?

YOU REALLY MESSED UP MY LUNCH TODAY. WHATEVER THAT YOU ARE DRINKING FROM THAT CALABASH IS TOO STRONG FOR YOU.

SO, KEEP AWAY, PLEASE!!!

AugustineAgain: Nigerian army 155mm heavy artillery will wipe out all your army's Igwe launchers from long range.

Nigerian air defenses will sh.oot down all your Rooivalk and Hawks with ease.

Nigerian army tanks will then move in to Mass R.ape your SANDF in broad day light !

Forgot to remind you your half information on Shilka air defense guns maximum 'k.ill zone area range' is 7km !

Meanwhile 300 Roland missiles wait to feast on the whole South African air force of Mokopas

https://www.armedforces.co.uk/Europeandefence/edequipment/edmis/edmisimages/edmisroland_b.jpg

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GRANDFATHER ROLAND CANNOT PERFORM AT NIGHT. HE IS OUTDATED AND HIS RADAR CAN BE JAMMED VERY EASILY WITH EW.

chris365: o common, thought you were the one doing the kicking around. turns out you aren't bright son

YOU ARE TRULY HIGH ON DRUGS, YOUNG BOY.

chris365: come on, stop pretending. your father is igbo

SURELY YOU ARE ON DRUGS.

agaugust: Nope, you are the one trapping yourself like you did yesterday with fake photo of American troops in Poland that you called Abuja !

Fool at 40 years of age, everybody with a website on internet now scams you like a Retaaard, you have no shame ! Old fool !



T-84 tank source is actually an Ukranian newspaper and the story was confirmed by Ukranian lawyers who spread it all over the world and many sources now carry it.....

" Ukraine is going to send to Nigeria two advanced battle tanks "Oplot", made in the Ukrainian Malyshev Plant in Kharkiv.
Oleh Titarenko, a lawyer and a member of Kyiv Shevchenko district local defense informed about this, Censor.NET reports.

He said that the tanks were supposed to fly to Nigeria yesterday, but due to problems with the plane "Ruslan" the flight was delayed. According to Titarenko this fact has caused a storm of indignation among the workers of the Antonov plant (at this time the tanks are at the plant's airport in Hostomel). The information on combat vehicles sending to Nigeria got leaked to the political circles that's why the tanks are still in Ukraine."


http://www.informe.com.ua/en/page/119843/ukraine-to-send-two-sophisticated-tanks-to-nigeria-photo



"Nigeria acquires two sophisticated T-84 Oplot MBT tanks.

The two T-84 Oblot Main Battle Tanks that Nigeria ordered from Ukraine has had its delivery delayed last week Thursday due to executive logistics problem. From every indications, the tanks will be in Nigeria in the next 48 hours.

The T-84 is developed out of the Soviet T-80 main battle tank. It was first built in 1994 and entered service in the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 1999. The T-84 is based on the diesel-engined T-80 version, the T-80UD.

It is one of the most sophisticated battle tanks in the world. Its high-performance opposed piston engine makes it one of the fastest MBTs in the world, with a power-to-weight ratio of about 26 horsepower per tonne (19 kW/t).

The T-84 Oplot is an advanced version incorporating an armoured ammunition compartment in a new turret bustle.The T-84's outstanding feature is the 26 hp/t power-to-weight ratio. It has inherited the nickname Flying Tank from the T-80. The tank is also designed to perform well in hot climates, and even includes an air-conditioned crew compartment (operating temperature range is claimed to be −40 °C to 55 °C).

Last week there were mild protests at the facility where the tanks were built by workers who questioned the reason behind selling this 'monster' to Nigeria when the Ukrainian Army needs it in its war with Russia backed rebels. But that is being addressed.

This Tank will be used in the final battle against Boko Haram as it will take the battle to their camps.Its sophistication lies in its ability to counter any land mine or anti tank weaponry."


http://www.savannahreports.com/index.php/politics/item/830-nigeria-acquires-two-t-84-oplot-mbt-tanks

[size=16pt]Nigerian army will mass R.ape South African army with impregnable tanks ![/size]

https://media.desura.com/images/groups/1/3/2074/T-84_Oplot-M.jpg


Wait, don't die yet, I have another tank shocker for you in my next post

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TWO TANKS WILL NOT WIN YOU THE WAR, EVEN WITH BOKO HARAM. MOKOPA WILL CRASH THEM BEYOND RECOGNITION.

chris365: that flat head will include your father. remember? take a nap boy, your head is all messed up.

HOW DOES THIS KICKING AROUND INVOLVE MY FATHER.

I HEARD SHEKAU WAS KILLED COULD THIS BE TRUE? ANY VOLUNTEE TO ANSWER THIS.