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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m):
agaugust:
Emotions don't win you a war. It's a game of mutual death, war is kill and get killed in return.

Your navy Umkhonto SAM's weakness are it's range, ceiling, speed, and easy to counter guidance system.

SAN does NOT have a weapon we cannot defeat, we have 'liquefying' solutions to all your 'solids'

We Nigerians will continue to teach you war history from 1914 to 2014......Learn my boy !!!

Argentine air force showed the world how obsolete aircraft like Skyhawk jets and Daggers/Nesher jets including ordinary trainers like MBB-339 light jets can sink navy ships without guided missiles, old warplanes with ordinary free fall bombs and gun fire from cannon destroyed British Royal navy warships that has anti-aircraft missile defenses.

A pity Argentina has old and expired bombs that the air force pilots dropped on target but did not explode, they landed right inside the British warships !

Imagine if the Argentines had 3.5 generation or 4th generation jets with chaff-flares self defense and rocket pods with 6km range which are freely available today, Britain would have lost almost all her warships.



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Part 52. BRITISH SHIPS LOST & DAMAGED


Note: If the frequent unexploded bombs (1-13) had detonated on striking some of the ships listed below, the Royal Navy's additional losses might quite possibly have put the eventual success of the British Task Force in doubt.

Saturday 1st May

HMS Alacrity - slightly damaged by bomb near misses

HMS Arrow - slightly damaged by cannon fire

HMS Glamorgan - slightly damaged by bomb near misses, all off Stanley by Daggers of FAA Grupo 6.

Wednesday 12th May

HMS Glasgow - moderately damaged off Stanley by unexploded bomb (1) dropped by A-4B Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 5. Bomb passed through hull but damage took some days to repair and she shortly returned to UK.

Friday 21st May

HMS Antrim - seriously damaged in Falkland Sound outside San Carlos Water by unexploded bomb (2) dropped by Daggers of FAA Grupo 6. UXB removed but damage took some days to repair.

HMS Broadsword - slightly damaged outside San Carlos Water by cannon fire from Daggers of Grupo 6.

HMS Argonaut - slightly damaged outside San Carlos Water by rockets and cannon fire from Aermacchi MB.339A of CANA 1 Esc, and then seriously damaged by two unexploded bombs (3/4) dropped by A-4B Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 5. Removing the UXB's and carrying out repairs took a number of days and although declared operational, she soon sailed for the UK.

HMS Brilliant - slightly damaged outside San Carlos Water by cannon fire from Daggers of Grupo 6. (Different attack from "Broadsword"wink

HMS ARDENT - badly damaged in Grantham Sound by bombs - hits, UXB's (5+) and near misses - dropped by Daggers of Grupo 6, then mortally damaged by bombs from A-4Q Skyhawks of CANA 3 Esc off North West Island. Sank the following evening.

Sunday 23rd May

HMS ANTELOPE - damaged in San Carlos Water by two unexploded bombs (6/7) dropped by A-4B Skyhawks of Grupo 5. One of the bombs exploded that evening while being defused and she caught fire and sank next day.

Monday 24th May

RFA Sir Galahad - damaged by unexploded bomb (cool and out of action for some days,

RFA Sir Lancelot - damaged by unexploded bomb (9) and not fully operational for almost three weeks,

RFA Sir Bedivere - slightly damaged by glancing bomb, all in San Carlos Water probably by A-4C Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 4.

Tuesday 25th May

HMS Broadsword - damaged north of Pebble Island by bomb from A-4B Skyhawk of Grupo 5 bouncing up through her stern and out again to land in the sea.

HMS COVENTRY - sunk north of Pebble Island in same attack by three bombs.

ATLANTIC CONVEYOR - mortally damaged north east of Falklands by Exocet missile fired by Super Etendard of CANA 2 Esc. Burnt out and later sank in tow.

Saturday 29th May

British Wye - hit north of South Georgia by bomb dropped by C-130 Hercules of FAA Grupo 1 which bounced into the sea without exploding

Tuesday 8th June

HMS Plymouth - damaged in Falkland Sound off San Carlos Water by four unexploded bombs (10-13) from Daggers of FAA Grupo 6.

RFA SIR GALAHAD - mortally damaged off Fitzroy by bombs from A-4B Skyhawks of Grupo 5 and burnt out. Later in June towed out to sea and sunk as a war grave.

RFA Sir Tristram - badly damaged off Fitzroy in same attack and abandoned, but later returned to UK and repaired.

LCU F4, HMS Fearless - sunk in Choiseul Sound by bomb from A-4B Skyhawk of Grupo 5.




History warns you not to sail frigates into war against an air force that has jet fighters like Nigeria
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We will tactically fly out of your missile defense range and ceiling while we employ long range rockets in pod salvos from safe distance. NAF is the most experienced air to ground attacking force in Africa today 2014, even Egypt cannot match NAF in such skill and experiance

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_(missile)



Operational range 12 km (7.5 mi )(Umkhonto-IR Bl
[1]
15 km (9.3 mi) (Umkhonto-IR Bl
20 km (12 mi)(Umkhonto-IR Bl
30 km (19 mi ) (Umkhonto-E
60 km (37 mi)(Umkhonto-R)

You are lunatic by quoting incidences out of context without having full details of what went wrong. Modern warships are well equipped against aerial attacks.



Umkhonto will crash F7 beyond recognition.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:07am On Dec 14, 2014
agaugust:
I live where blacks get killed by whites just because they are blacks.

Not all whites are racist, I have a very nice and fatherly white boss, he built my career and made me what I am today.

Just different strokes for different folks. White cops are the worst offenders.
Nope, you are still stuck in 100% black country where you see black everywhere you go.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:59am On Dec 14, 2014
agaugust:
You want me to post photo of how your Soweto rats Inkatha/Buthelezi and Mandela/ANC mass killed and mass murdered one another like chicken after the white man handed over power to you? Buthelezi dia ris God o ! You blacks messed up South Africa and the whites are running away to Europe, America, Australia

You live in a glass house don't throw stones.

[img]http://wird.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Corbis-42-20136711-1.jpg[/img]
Photoshopped picture.

If you would have known that whites who have left SA some while ago are coming back in large numbers and some white immigrants even relocate in SA.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:33pm On Dec 13, 2014
EVarn:
sinking into where?
Deep into insurgency
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 9:10pm On Dec 13, 2014
EVarn:
i love my country.some people view our military as incompetent despite all the heavy weapons it possesses,but we are facing a terrorist group determined to establish an islamic caliphate.i'm sure that if it were any other african country that was plagued with boko haram,such a country would have been a failed state by now.
Nigeria is already sinking.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:58pm On Dec 13, 2014
EVarn:
brov,china doesnt finance the construction of our road and rails.
China did give Nigeria a loan to build her roads, railway, etc.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 8:54pm On Dec 13, 2014
agaugust:
Falkland war of Exocet missiles was in the olden days?
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Agaigust you are indeed mad by thinking that F7s would destroy valour class by just using unguided bombs and cannon.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:43pm On Dec 13, 2014
agaugust:
Go two pages back, I just proved that in real war (Which South Africa has not fought since almost 70 years) Jets use ordinary bombs and cannon to sink modern warships that have anti-aircraft missiles, while the jet aircraf have no single PGM.

I thought you said your Soweto universites have upgraded your brains to top ranking and rating by some senseless rating agency ?
Eish!!! indeed you are very stupidd. That was in the olden days. So what do you think modern frigates carry SAM for? Is it for fun or decoration? Even if your F7 could fire PGMs, it wouldn't have been able to destroy valour class. Free fall bombs needs you to fly very low and is exposing pilots to danger from RPGs, missiles and air defence guns. Your F7 will not even dare to come any close to the valour class, because Umkhonto will crash F7 about 15 km away.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:18pm On Dec 13, 2014
agaugust:
Those seats are rotated among African countries, one day Togo republic will be there in that position you boast about. Fool grin
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I beg to differ, those seats are contested and not rotated. SA can contest for that top positition many a times.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:14pm On Dec 13, 2014
agaugust:
LOL....F-7 Grifo 7 radar has over 40km air and 20km ground detection range . It's free info on NAF Wiki page
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Tell me, how will your F7 destroy valour class if it(F7) cannot even launch a PGM?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:10pm On Dec 13, 2014
AugustineAgain:
SA has highly rated university infrastructure prodiucing poorly rated university graduates
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SA university education is the best not only in Africa but across the world. Fact!!!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:09pm On Dec 13, 2014
AugustineAgain:
The Soithies are shocked to see a 100% black nation Nigeria producing it's own brand of vehicles....Innoson management and staff Kwenu....Yaaa !
South African envy will just give them high B.P.
I can never drive that Chinese thing in my whole life.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:38pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
Canada has it's soldiers killed inside the capital city of Canada by Islamic terrorists. Canada is ~ 99% Christian nation.

No country is immune. We all fight to stop terrorism and we keep fighting against it.
So, what?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:23pm On Dec 12, 2014
jln115:
civilian boats are not armed, and i think most pirates are armed.
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 7:04pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
There is no weapon on South African Valour frigate that can harm Angolan Su-30 in combat. Even an F-7 of NAF will sink a Valour frigate easily
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Bwahahahaha.... haven't you heard anything about Umkhonto missiles?


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_(missile)

BEWARE!!!!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:47pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
Pirates with 70 km/h speed boats will make a mockery of SAN slow snail valour frigates in the eyes of the unlocking world.

Nigerian navy AW 109E Power are maritime versions with visible water floats, ours fly, yours are grounded as in captivity of long term binding chains.

NAF has maritime radar ATR-42.

Nigeria has ocean monitoring radar satellites, South Africa only has DSTV to watch movies at home .
ANC nation of rubbish.
Then we will see if they can run faster than Exocet and helicopters.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:45pm On Dec 12, 2014
EVarn:
TROOPS CLEARS AWAY TERRORISTS FROM MICHIKA AND MADAGALI ! ! ! !
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Classified information reaching my attention has revealed that nigerian troops have defeated boko haram islamic terrorists in michika and madagali,and are advancing towards gwoza,which is the heart of boko haram's so called "caliphate".mop up exercises are currently going on,as troops are currently carrying out a sweep check with air support to clear out IEDs,explosives,mines,and break away terrorist factions that may still be loitering around in the liberated areas.this is coming few days after the nigerian government decided to cancel all training arrangements with the US military,and kick out US military advisors.
Yet 50 people just died from a twin bomb in Jos.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:33pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
I agree with you, I just noticed many differences on all the vehicles. Also, the interior and engines may be different. I don't have tech specs on those vehicles. There are Hyundai cars that look like Honda cars outside, but interior and engine differ
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Slight differences mean nothing. The fact is that they all take the shape of quality brands particularly that fake Toyota Quantum. The Toyota Quantum was designed in SA and I think is only found in SA.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:07pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
Boko Haram gives accounts with you tube videos, their own side of the story. Seleka version says SANDF was beaten into near coma, leading to your escapology in the direction of Bangui airport .
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So, should we believe them when they say that they kill thousands of your soldiers?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:05pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
What makes you think Innoson did not pay for those designs?

My opinion is they agreed, and the vehicles look very similar in line with both companies' terms and conditions agreed upon in writing.
Do you think that there is any company in this world which can play that foolish game? Obviously, if they sell some of their designs, what about their cars? Counterfeit decrease the reputation of quality products. Chinese do not ask, they simply commit day light robbery.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:59pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
Try it. Valour frigate vs Angolan Su-30. Try it
No pilot can ever risk to attack a heavily armed warship unless, he wants to kiss the death.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:44pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
[size=16pt]Name the ships and show us the money ![/size]
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You are always backward, the parliament gave the SAN a go ahead to acquire OPVs early this year. The only thing standing is the shipyards where the ships will be build.


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33804:progress-at-last-on-offshore-patrol-vessel-acquisition&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:36pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
All Nigerian armed forces are being rebuilt with upgrades and brand new equipment.

Sulk while you watch us transform...envy kills slowly but steadily
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So, you think SANDF is not transforming. Just 10 years from now we will be having two aircraft carriers through project millennium which is also endorsed by the defence review
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:32pm On Dec 12, 2014
MikeCZAR:
Democracy isn't independence.

Again doesn't this contradict what you've been saying? That SA only existed from 94?
They always claim to have better education than South Africans yet they cannot make that simple assignment of differentiating Democracy to Independence.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:17pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
South Africa is like a dwarf struggling to play Basketball. grin grin
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Perhaps, that applies to another country.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:14pm On Dec 12, 2014
Cannonleo:
that is highly unlikely..even any intending interest knows..check well there are a heck lot of difference between the vehicles bro grin
The shape tells it all that it is a stolen design

Bear with me, that action is possible. That's why we have the trade mark™ that bear relevance to intellectual properties which should be protected by international law. It is just that the company is not yet well known to international market and once it gets exposure it will as well run the risk of attracting law suits which could potentially close it down.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:07pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
The SANDF white flag was hurriedly made improvised from on Woolworths designer white pant and one DENEL R4 assault rifle

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South Africans are not cowards in their nature. The blood of Shaka Zulu and Mzilikazi live among us. Many people brand us as being barbaric and violent in nature. We can never raise the flag against rag tag militia.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:04pm On Dec 12, 2014
Cannonleo:
TRUE TAlk bro in a right sense.......but there is still a whole lot of design differences between these model.our models make look similar just like..a Honda crv 4 looks alike with a toyota RAv4..the comparative differences stem from the components and performance..u must understand that a design may be inspired from the subconscious,or from the obviously seen.the true fact lies in the ability ti both adapt thru this means and create which we have done.....i have ridden in an innoson SUV and i am highly impressed..regardless of the assertion.... our cars are rugged
My advice is that they should start to be independent in their design or else they run the risk of attracting many law suit against innosson which could potentially shut it doors before the actual take off.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:56pm On Dec 12, 2014
AugustineAgain:
Nope I said post a neutral source, you posted a South African army story given to a South African man who works with Janes to publish it on Janes.

Why not post the Seleka version of the battle published in Reuters news by General Hakouma of Seleka ?

So far NO photo of dead Seleka means only SANDF men died and the rest surrendered to get a ceasefire, white flag made with one white Woolworths pant hanging on the barrel of an R4 rifle
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Did you ever see BH giving their account of details in their fight against Nigerian troops? So, believe what doctors without borders told you and the people of CAR. However, Seleka lost the war bitterly.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:46pm On Dec 12, 2014
Cannonleo:
TROLLLLL grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin WE ARE STILL BETER OFF
Theft of intellectual property is a crime. Why cant you at least design anything that comes out of your head even if it can be ugly. Why does it have to take the shape of other brands? I like what Indians are doing with their tata. It might look bad and ugly but it does not copy any design.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m):
Henry120:
We have empires which predate you south-africans.

Nigeria's first election brought in tafawa belewa as prime-minister of Nigeria in the early 60's.

South-Africa on the other hand only began to exist in 1994.

Your flag proves it.
The bush men and hottentots predate everyone in Nigeria

The khoikhoi, the first people.



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoikhoi
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 2:53pm On Dec 12, 2014

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