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I expect specific examples of each type considering Nigeria as a case study. Hope the poster would help with these examples.

@ poster
The naration looks so crude and can cause more havoc to the family concerned. To address the issue, without minding the approach or manner of presentation, it is better for the man/woman to forgive the partner. To put it straight, if i am the one, though not easy, i will surely forgive by the special grace of Almighty God. The basis of our salvation is also anchored on our abilily to forgive others not minding the numbers of offence.

The whole write up is purely a figment of the writer's imagination. It is ridiculous for any one to say the north is marginalised in the political calculation of this country. Atiku himseif knew before hand that the power of incubency that made him to serve 8yrs in the office could be employed against him. Yet he fought, not gallantly but lost gallantly.

@jenwitemi
Yes I know God's likes and dislikes, for I abide in Him and His words abides in me.
"For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away:, " Malachi 2:16

God hates divorce. If one divorces, he has not sin against God, but to re-marry while the original partner is alive is where the sin lies. Hard doctrine, but biblical.

Onigbagbo means "The believers" while Imale means "religions of force or violence"

What really matters is the significance of his birth and death on the cross.

Obj is not bad in this outfit. Young and energetic!

Post #4 by wumine is sufficient for the poster. ABSTAIN from alcohol.

@vedaxcool
It is disgusting when the so called religious people resorts to name calling. Pls we can avoid abusive and derogatory language here as I see no reason for that. Words like fools. blind, idiot etc can be done away with on a platform like this. Thanks.

For the sake of enlightenment, miracles received can not take the receipient to to heaven, it is the salvation of your soul that guarantees your place with God. The miracles performed by prophets of old were not demanded for like people of christ time demanded from him. They were moved by the spirit of God to act at that appropriate time and God confirm himself in their midst.

Jesus once said "without signs and wonders people would not belief", and for this purpose he performed miracles on his own accord and not under compulsion to do it. I personally dont need to seek signs and wonders again for me to belief God. There are abundant miracles recorded in the scripture that affirms the existence of God which is sufficient for my faith.

There can not be a counterfeit without the existence of the original. The fact that some magicians are doing something that look like miracles does not make it miracle. That is why we are forewarned to try every spirit whether they are fom God, and every spirit that does not confess christ as Lord is not from God.

An event recorced in the hadith, I presume is not superior to the the one recorded in the quran. Why the ommission in the quran, and miracles of a prophet of Muhammed's magnitude shouldnt be scanty to locate. Just my own feelings anyway.

@poster,
Its like saying if wishes were horses beggars might ride. Or another saying that "if a slave becomes a king, there would remain nobody in the city".

In fairness, there will be no more terrorism, the altimate goal of the terrorists is to enthrone Islam. Once achieved there will be peace because they would have muscled up other religions. Vatican city would have been destoyed, Jerusalem would be occupied by Ahmedjadeen, all Obas will become Emirs, English kingdom will bocome emirate, Bhudda and Hindus temples destroyed, Churches converted to mosques, Brazillian carnivals banned, No more female football.

More amputees everywhere, more masqurades, banning of western education, and so one so forth.

^^^
I was not there when he performed those miracles, yet i belief everything written in the scripture about Jesus.
About fake pastors, the scripture never put us in darkness concerning the existence of such. In fact Jesus emphatically warned us about false prophets that would come and deceive many, and that is why many belief this Muhmmed is one of the false prophets as he does not meet the requirement God gave his people in Deut. 18: 21-22

@bashy_demy.
The signs,wonders and miracles performed by christ are much mentioned in your quran as my friend used to boast of that to me. The blind saw, the lame walk ,the dead are brought back to life through christ. Elijah and Elisha raised the dead from death, etc.

@vedaxcool.
I was not there when the sea was parted! The reason I have to blief it may not be far from your answer to this question I am about to ask you. Were you also there when Muhammed received the revelation called quran?

On the other hand, you have not really show or proved any sign or miracle perfomed by Muhammed, unless you will agree that prophet Muhammed is not better off than the likes of Major Nzeogwu, Abraham Lincoln, Rajiv Ghandi, Azikiwe, Awolowo etc who are great revolutionist of their era. We should be able to distinguish btw a man of God and an ordinary leader.

Moses and Pharaoh are both leaders, but one speak with God directly and the other with gods. The one with God worketh miracle and the one with gods magic. Which miracle was performed by Muhammed as querried by the poster.

@vedaxcool.
- Martin Luther King Jnr's crusade played a crucial role in bringing an end to to racial descrimination in America. Can this be described as  signs (and wonder)? NO.
-The Spanish football team could not win a single trophy for decades till 2009/2010. Is this sign (and wonder)? NO.
-Killings of twins continued in this part of the world until the arrival of Mary Slessor. Is that also signs (and wonder). NO.
-ETC.
-France got rid of their monarchical system of govt through revolution.
These are mere REVOLUTIONS! Every generation experience revolution at one point in time.

Muhammed must have been a revolutionist that correct certain misnormal of his time but, definitely does not fit into the poster's definition of a prophet.
Signs, wonders and miracles are exibited by prophets of old to demonstrate their connection with the Almighty God. Moses parted the red sea is one of many signs and wonders displayed by God.

Dear s-prayer, in a bid to justify some of your unchristian practices, you quickly concluded that some christians dont have the old testament in their Holy Bible. I would like you to explain the following baffling questions to non cele members in line with the scripture.

1. Why must you worship in white garments and barefooted like obatala worshipers.
2.Why the use of candles, perfumes, incense etc for prayers like some mallam does.
3.The name 'holy michael' is always rendered or echoed like Jesus. Are you praying to an angel(s).
4.Tell us more about the founder of cele and how he was commissioned; his ministry and marital life.

Eagerly awaiting.

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So a prophet that suppose to be an oracle of God still flirts around with concubines.

A man of God is expected to lay less emphasy on intimacy with women for spiritual elevation. How come a prophet sleeps with as much as 8, 9 women in a night. That must be a prophet of women affairs.

Seyibrown's post #43 puts an end to the debate.

The similarity btw Moses and Jesus, if any can only be seen with spiritual insight and not the cock and bull story of how Moses got married and Jesus never married to any woman. Afterall if a father married 10 wives and a son decided to marry only one or even abstain from marriage does not make that son a bastard. For a carnal mind, the similarities are obvious as explained below.

Valid similarity btw Moses and Jesus are as follows;
1. At the birth of Moses, King Pharaoh ordered the killings of all newly born male child and likewise King Herod ordered the killings of newly born male children at the birth of Jesus. This is a great similarity as both of them have to deliver their people from the bondage of oppression. Somebody else can confirm that for Muhammed.

2.Both ministries of Moses and Jesus are backed with signs and wonders. Miracles of highest dimensions were performed by the two of them. Somobody else can confirm that for Muhammed.

3. Moses led his people away from Egypt, to a new land and never return them back to the old land of Egypt while Christ also lead his followers to a new Jerusalem, which is paradise. I learnt Muhammed led some people away from Mecca and later came back to the same land to dwell there. This is contrary to the workings of God as it relates to salvation. Abraham was called to leave his country to another country and he never looked back.

My dear LagosShia, I love those passages you quoted from the scripture to butress your points, but i will like you to answer the following questions before further discussions:

1. Do you belief in the authenticity of the passages you quoted?
2. If your answer is YES to the above, are you ready to accept other passages of the scripture as also true and authentic for further discussons?
3. If NO, then have a wonderful time.

he should be blackshot!

Because Adam sinned against God, then judgement was passed upon man. " But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shall not eat of it; for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. "Gen.2:17 Death hangs on the neck of every man. In Job 14:1 the spirit of God says, " Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble." Sad news!

The good news is that while death came through the first man, life is given through the last man that whosoever believe in him should not die but have everlasting life. The last man is Jesus.

Of the destiny of the dead, It is appointed unto man to die once, and after that, judgement. And for the wages of sin is death and the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus. There is second death which is eternal perdition for disobedient children.

^^^Just go back and read some of the post of seyibrown, that ought to have answered your question.

On the example you gave above, it is called restitution. Correcting the wrong, restoring what you have stole. The first wife was the right wife, the second was an extra, which is sin. The man must separate from the illegal wife, but still has a responsibility towards the children of this woman because they are still his children. A proper arrangement or agreement must be made between the two. If trully he is born-again and belief in restitution, he own a duty to these children. He must not fail in his responsibility to his children, or else he is not yet born again. If a man failed to provide for his house, he is worse than an infidel.

Seyibrown, may the good Lord continue to enrich you in wisdom and understanding, and open your your eyes the more on spiritual matters, especially those that pertaineth to His kingdom.

"For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." Matt. 19:12.

Eunuch literally means an impotent. Jesus emphasise the fact that aside some that were born impotent, some actually chose to abstain from the pleasure of marriage, just for the sake of God's kingdom. Many open the bible looking for the word "polygamy" and could not find it, they then concluded that God is not against it. God is against it. For as long as the first wife is living, no matter her condition, the husband must not contract another marriage. It seems hard for a carnal body to comply, but God's grace can sustain us obeying his word. It is for those that are expecting the second coming of the Lord or looking forwards to reign with him. Nobody is excluded, either the bishop or or congregation. Forget all these modern preachers that are trying to manipulate the scripture, by enccouraging the member to take a second wife while the first one is still living. Wife is not that material you buy in the market and later return for one defect or the other. Once you are married, it is till death do you part and no room for the second.

But again, "HE THAT IS ABLE TO RECEIVE IT LET HIM RECEIVE IT"

Big congrats! May the Almighty God remembers all those looking forward to such joy. Once again, I say congratulation.

What could be the reason why anybody should blame Adekunle for fighting for Nigeria during the civil war. Banjo was from south west as well and he fought for the Biafran soldier and he was not crucified for doing so if at his own peril, as he was eventually killed, not by the enemy (Nigeria) but by Ojukwu himself.

Let us understand the fact that soldiers doesnt disobey commands from their superiors, or else there are consequences which could be unimaginable. Adekunle found himself on the Nigerian side, not by choice, and he has a duty as a brave soldier to carry out the commands of his commander-in-chief whhich he did perfectly. He is remembered today as a hero because Nigeria won. He could have been labelled a villain and even forgotten had he lost the battle with Nigeria. And Banjo would have been hero with Ojukwu had he not been killed, supposing Biafran soldiers won.

By the way soldiers are wicked set of people, because they are trained to kill and destroy. Hence not only Adekunle that is wicked but every soldier, including IBB, OBJ, OJUKWU ETC

Working for God is a privilege and can only be appreciated by those who knows the reward. For the poster to claim to be a worker in the vineyard of God means he has concecrated his life and ready to be a vessel unto honour.

It is therefore surprising for this same vessel seeking a lady via NL which to any serious-minded xtian, is not the best channel for a life partner. Get me right, there are good xtians (male and female) on the NL, but are there no more singles in CEC, if the intention was not meant for illicit purpose.

No doubt about the fact that satan is the father of all lies and this is evident in the way and manner in which he is trying to manipulate God's word (The Bible) to achieve his desire of leading human race to distruction. Thank God,even the so called atheist and many other religious books still reference the Bible for one reason or the other because it (Bible) is the BOOK of books.

The Nigerian press is as corrupt as the police and PHCN. Now that money is changing hands, they are all putting on smilling faces but the moment the evil genius wins the election(God forbid) and starts to bomb them through letter or other means, then they will cry aloud. Only God knows if Dele Giwa was not once settled before he met his waterloo.

Heartless and consciencesless journalist

34"Think not that I am com to send peace on earth: I am come not to send peace but a sword. 35 For I am come to send a man at variance against father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daugther in law against her mother in law".

The above words of christ is not indicating the sword to fight your enemies as some religions would interprete it. In verse 35, he goes further to mention son and father to be at loggerheads, daugther and mother etc. The simple meaning is that once anyone trully gives his life to Christ and experience the peace of God that accomplishes salvation, such fellow would not like to associate with the worldly behaviours that is against his new found faith.

A son that used to buy cigarette or alcohol for his father will suddenly refuse to do same. Call it radicallism, but that is the good fight of faith. He will be against every thing that unholly, and would not dance to the unholly lives of his brethren. In the process, there wont be peace between the father and the son. THAT IS THE SWORD!

@poster, I quite appreciate your concern as expressed, but i would like to open your mind and accept genuine contributions based on the word of God. I have  the following to contribute which i belief  would address the grey areas you highlited:

TITHING: I would not like to dwell much on this because many other threads have addressed this satisfactorily. Tithing is biblical. Jesus and the Apostles never condemn tithing, so it not wrong if the church teaches about tithing. The only wrong will be if it is overflogged.
PROSPERITY: The word of God says in the book of Zechariah that he will spread his cities(church) abroad with prosperity. And the scripture also confirm that Christ became poor so that we can become rich, are all testament that God is ready to prosper His children. Note again that the preaching of prosperity should not be at the expense holiness, without which no man shall see God.
CHARITY: I need you to throw more light on this because i know many churches with charity ministry, and many of them pentecostal. Also you needto visit some of churches and see how the less privilege are been assisted.
PRAYING LIKE THE THE PHARISEES: Let me jost correct your wrong interpretation of that scriptural passage. When you are praying alone, you dont need to disturb your neighbours by shouting, that is hypocrisy. You dont need to go to the streets and start shouting in the name of prayer as an individual, that is what the pharisees does. On the same vein there is no restriction to the level of your voice if you are in the assembly of brethren like in the church. The book of Isaiah says "cry aloud and spare not". Even Jesus cried out to Lazarus to come out of the grave. This may be necessary at times if situation permits. It was not meant for recognition or hypocrisy.
VOODOO: This is not new or peculiar to a particular denomination. The Methodist church youths once protested against the church from taking part in the funeral of a particular Oluwo (the head of ogboni cult). It is the sign of end time.

@poster, I quitecostal. Also you needto visit some of churches and see how the less privilege are been assisted.
PRAYING LIKE THE THE PHARISEES: Let me jost correct your wrong interpretation of that scriptural passage. When you are praying alone, you dont need to disturb your neighbours by shouting, that is hypocrisy. You dont need to go to the streets and start shouting in the name of prayer as an individual, that is what the pharisees does. On the same vein there is no restriction to the level of your voice if you are in the assembly of brethren like in the church. The book of Isaiah says "cry aloud and spare not". Even Jesus cried out to Lazarus to come out of the grave. This may be necessary at times if situation permits. It was not meant for recognition or hypocrisy.
VOODOO: This is not new or peculiar to a particular denomination. The Methodist church youths once protested against the church from taking part in the funeral of a particular Oluwo (the head of ogboni cult). It is the sign of end time.