pcoolioz:
Can someone please recommend an inverter brand for me? Not too expensive like Deye but still reliable.
The first I used was a Chinese one. It worked well but my light damaged it. The second was MUST. I had the worst experience with that.
I'll appreciate the recommendations.

I am doing this, from my own experience, as a USER. I do not sell anything
I bought this Genex Inverter, over a year or thereabout.
I have heard stories about Inverter Problems so l was expecting "something" to happen, one of these days.
I dont stay home most of the time, so it is my youngest Son that is the "Engineer" of our Solar System.

The Inverter has been abused, a lot of times, (overloading it or mistakenly putting on something that was not supposed to be on, with other things. Though, l did oversize my Panels, just to ensure that my LiFePo4 Cells have enough charges, as l do run on Solar 24/7 and we use all sorts of Equipment in daytime), the Inverter has shut down and screamed, the dust it accumulates at times, scares me it will pack up but hell No, it continues to work Non Stop.

if all Inverters worked that smoothly and dont give hassles, l think we wont have so many people here, complaining about their Inverters.
Whether it will start its own problem tomorrow, which l doubt, l cannot say but till now, it has been excellente, for its price.

I bought a spare of it and kept at home, for the rainy day, if that day does not come, then l may dispose it off (even at a gain), as prices are always rising.

It is a Genex Inverter, the Selling Company has good warranty on it as well. Compared to others in its category, it is cheap!
Go to their Site below and see if it meets your need but be assured that it is rugged

https://shop.gennextechnologies.com/product-category/solar-panels/

Please click on their Inverter Section.

EPOMA:
Just let the thread be . Till years to come I will still use Zeestone.

Has anyone, including myself, ever asked you not to use @Zeestone999/Mazine group, that incompetent quack that damaged my Roof, just to install Panels on it?
How is that anyone's problem?

I thought you had something more tangible to SAY or DO, when you were issuing threats.

Abeg, swerve jare, l dont have your time.

EPOMA:


Please die this topic here , No one is i am not interested . We did not know when the deal was done . Just respect yourself

I know you are not interested, that is very obvious. Fair enough, that is your right afteral, l did not post the Topic on your head.

And if l dont "die the topic here", what in God's name do you think you will do, apart from just minding your Business and doing Waka-pass, anytime you see it?

I am just curious because l think such empty threats, are just meaningless.

SMH. If l were you, l wont cry more than the bereaved.

BTW: let me repeat the topic here.

FireTheSun:



You keep lying in Public and it shows you have zero Credibility.
You told me you are a University Graduate, so it will be wrong of me, to assume you to know the meaning and import of those words l highlighted in your Post.

1) The Damage you caused to my Roof, by your Quackery and Incompetence, is more than just Leaks!
Leaks can be plugged but the Damage is majorly CRUSHED ROOFING SHEETS, caused by your CARELESS and INEXPERIENCED walking around, on my Roof, with FOUR other men.

2) You said you RESOLVED the issue when l contact you about it, in September or so?.
The question is: How does asking a Roofer to plug about some of the 15 leakages in my Roof, RESOLVE the issue of Crushed, Damaged Roofing Sheets?
How does that "plugging of some Leaks" back them, amount to a COMPLETE RESOLUTION of the Damage you caused with your quackery?

3) My Roofing sheets are still crushed as l type this, leading to secondary problems.
The only lasting Solution/Resolution is to REPLACE the AFFECTED Roofing Sheets (about 75% of the Roof Area, in the three locations you installed Panels, on the Roof).
So, when you say you have "resolved" the issue, l would ask: Did you replace the CRUSHED Roofing Sheets?
The answer is "NO", so what is all the noise you are making online?

I have asked a Roofer to assess the damage and the Roofer that told me the best solution is to remove the damage Roofing Sheets and replace them with New Ones. He added that the more we keep climbing the Roof to plug leakages (which keeps re-occurring within those crushed areas), the more damage we will have and the more leakages we will get!
That is obvious and reasonable, to any reasonable person.

I dont need another Roofer to climb and walk on my Roof (and potentially damage it even more), for any, additional "assessment", at this moment except to Replace the damaged Roofing Sheets. There is enough "pictorial evidence" of the situation of the Roof, which l have already provided.

Since you have been sounding-off, l can refer you to the Company that produced my Roofing Sheets, in the Dopemu area of Lagos, you can pay them for the Roofing Sheets, while l take delivery of them and ask the Roofer to remove the damaged ones and replace them with the New ones or l can buy it while you credit my Account for the Cost.

You can even pay for the "Accessories and Workmanship" but stop coming here to mouth-off that you have resolved the problem.

As far as l am concerned, [color=#990000]you @Zeestone99 / Mazine Group was asked to install Panels on my Roof but in the process, you damaged my Roof, through your Incompetence and Quackery[/color] ... and the damages are still there, for all to see.

You have identified yourself here, so take your decisions here and let everyone see/read it here.
If you do well, we will commend you here and if you messed up, we will mention it here as well.

EPOMA:




MY guy this topic don close now . I take God beg you to die this matter . Haba

Eeyah,.... I did not know YOU have closed the Topic!

I am the one saddled with a Still Damaged and still leaking Roof, as we speak.
It is not even a "Topic", it is a real-life, House, with a real life Roofing Sheets that are still damaged and yet to be replaced!

So, how does a Client and Owner, 'close or die" a damaged and leaking Roof caused by the incompetence and quackery of the Installer, (Zeestone99/Mazine Group), instead of replacing the damaged Roofing Sheets?

But l am sure you have your own very good and valid reasons, for writing what you wrote.

So, l will wait on you to make such reasons available, for us to read and gain from and see how it replaces and redresses the damaged parts of the Roof.

zeestone99:


I am not denying there were leaks. Wen we had that issue way back, both parties came together to resolve this issue. This is as far back as 11 months. If he still has issues, cant he reach out to me and we discuss how to fix it as men. I don't run away from repairs. He didn't tell me anything until wen he made that post. Infact it was when he made that post I'm just knowing he has issues.

I will call him and send a roofer to access the damages.

Thanks for your input.

You keep lying in Public and it shows you have zero Credibility.
You told me you are a University Graduate, so it will be wrong of me, to assume you to know the meaning and import of those words l highlighted in your Post.

1) The Damage you caused to my Roof, by your Quackery and Incompetence, is more than just Leaks!
Leaks can be plugged but the Damage is majorly CRUSHED ROOFING SHEETS, caused by your CARELESS and INEXPERIENCED walking around, on my Roof, with FOUR other men.

2) You said you RESOLVED the issue when l contact you about it, in September or so?.
The question is: How does asking a Roofer to plug about some of the 15 leakages in my Roof, RESOLVE the issue of Crushed, Damaged Roofing Sheets?
How does that "plugging of some Leaks" back them, amount to a COMPLETE RESOLUTION of the Damage you caused with your quackery?

3) My Roofing sheets are still crushed as l type this, leading to secondary problems.
The only lasting Solution/Resolution is to REPLACE the AFFECTED Roofing Sheets (about 75% of the Roof Area, in the three locations you installed Panels, on the Roof).
So, when you say you have "resolved" the issue, l would ask: Did you replace the CRUSHED Roofing Sheets?
The answer is "NO", so what is all the noise you are making online?

I have asked a Roofer to assess the damage and the Roofer that told me the best solution is to remove the damage Roofing Sheets and replace them with New Ones. He added that the more we keep climbing the Roof to plug leakages (which keeps re-occurring within those crushed areas), the more damage we will have and the more leakages we will get!
That is obvious and reasonable, to any reasonable person.

I dont need another Roofer to climb and walk on my Roof (and potentially damage it even more), for any, additional "assessment", at this moment except to Replace the damaged Roofing Sheets. There is enough "pictorial evidence" of the situation of the Roof, which l have already provided.

Since you have been sounding-off, l can refer you to the Company that produced my Roofing Sheets, in the Dopemu area of Lagos, you can pay them for the Roofing Sheets, while l take delivery of them and ask the Roofer to remove the damaged ones and replace them with the New ones or l can buy it while you credit my Account for the Cost.

You can even pay for the "Accessories and Workmanship" but stop coming here to mouth-off that you have resolved the problem.

As far as l am concerned, [color=#990000]you @Zeestone99 / Mazine Group was asked to install Panels on my Roof but in the process, you damaged my Roof, through your Incompetence and Quackery[/color] ... and the damages are still there, for all to see.

You have identified yourself here, so take your decisions here and let everyone see/read it here.
If you do well, we will commend you here and if you messed up, we will mention it here as well.

Tommynaku:
Anyone planning to buy some Lithium cells from Alibaba? Please try indicate so we can plan and collabo to reduce the shipping cost.

What’s the cost of shipping 1 CBM from Shenzhen to Nigeria?

And any link to a reputable/trusted Freight forwarding agent or company

I got my Cells (4 Replacement Cells) from the Alibaba Seller called Shenzen Dery New Energy Company.
I initially purchased 34 Units of 280Ah but four of them were damaged in transit, which is what the Seller, Selina Li, has just replaced.
The freight Forwarder she used this time around, did also not give us any issues as he responded promptly to our queries.

I am raising this here because l like to give Credit to those (Seller or Installer) who strive to do their chosen job, RESPONSIBLY and with INTEGRITY, for which a customer pays.

This Seller replaced the 4, 280Ah Cells, all the way from China, at "No Cost" to me (except the Dispatch delivery to my House) and to my surprise, even included a Letter of Apology and a beautiful, cuddly Souvenir Gift!
Just look at that! Imagine if all Sellers/Installers/Service providers exhibit this sort of attitude?

It shows Humility; it shows an intention to protect the Company's Name and Brand, at all cost; it shows Competence in their ability to deliver to the Clients expectation; it shows that the Seller Understands what is required to be done, to achieve Excellence, it shows the Seller Appreciates the Business of the Client, etc.

Now, tell me, why wont l recommend such Seller to anyone, putting my own integrity on the line?
Unlike one Service provider here who you give a job to and end-up causing damage that is worth twenty times in Cost, to the job you gave him!

The Replacement cells came well packaged and protected and they are top grade Cells.
Just so we know, this is a Chinese Seller on Alibaba, that l have never met (I read some negative comments about Chinese Sellers) while this incompetent and quack "Nigerian" installer is all over the thread showing his lack of integrity and competence.

Others who also had their purchase (in the Group Buy) delivered by the same Seller, will read this and attest to how their items were packaged.

I have attached pictures of mine, as proof.
If this Seller can go all out to replace a damaged product and apologize for it, then l am certain that your Money is in good hands, if you buy anything from Selina Li, Shenzen Dery New Energy Company

SolnergyPower:
I appeal to both parties to please seize fire!

@ZeeStone99:
I seriously doubt if a client would come to a public forum like this to air his discontentment with a service if he isn't pained or incur losses or inefficiently served. Remember, at his first post, he didn't mention your name, so I think he never meant any harm to you nor your brand. He was expressing himself until you identified yourself and came to your defense.

Please NOTE, the issue here isn't about your technical competence, but a third party component which many variables can account for is the crux of the matter.

There's no installer who has done quite a number of roof works that hasn't damaged client's roof before, some times extensively. I've replaced asbestos roofing sheets for a client before.

So many of us still hold you in high esteem in the midst of all of this.

So, brother, simply APOLOGIZE to the client irrespective of how you feel and let this matter rest.

@FireTheSun:
Oga, abeg, no vex!

God bless us, all!

Thank you for your intervention, l do appreciate your input and concern
Like you observed, all l did was "express my experience" on "an Installer", without mentioning any name, even when l was put under pressure and even insulted, by one member here, for not revealing the Name of the installer!

But at times, People take this their bravado to extreme levels, thinking they can bluff their way through.
He has lied over and over again, called me names on this Public forum, just to defend identifying himself as the author of that Unprofessional Work!

But let me reiterate:
- The Damage was to many Roofing Sheets on my Roof, during his Solar panel Installation

- It was caused by walking on the Sheets, in a most careless manner (as you would have read on the message l sent to him, when the work was ongoing, and the response he gave).
- The Sheets are strong enough to carry an Installer, if he treads carefully but he had five People on the Roof, including himself, at a time!

- I asked that Pictures be taken for me, of the damage and l forwarded some of these pictures to him last year.

- Another Installer installed even bigger and heavier Panels on another side of the Roof, that had the same Roofing sheet Covering

- This installer treaded carefully and did not damage any Roof and there was No leakage thereafter, which proves that the damage has nothing to do with the "technical component or specs of of the Roofing Sheet".
Even if it does, all he has to say is "I can work on this Roof" and l will discharge him peacefully.

- As they were walking on the Roof, l was hearing the CRUSHING SOUND of their steps, as they crumpled the Roof. I did not hear same, when the other Installer was doing his install. What does that say?

- He sent a Roofer to come and plug some of the leaks created by the holes resulting from the crushing.
But how does that remedy "Crushed Roofing Sheets", since he keeps LYING and CLAIMING he has remedied the situation?

- Aluminum Steptile Roofing Sheets are not like Asbestos Roofing Sheet, if he has the "knowledge and technical experience", of installing on them, like the second "Professional installer" l later engaged, he would have known how to navigate carefully on my Roof.

Me, l nor vex o! "Anger" is not a strategy, as it is said.
He wants to prove me wrong, he wants to prove l am just a bored person, an idle person, someone who "wakes up and says rubbish", an exaggerator, someone God cannot help , etc.. among the few Names he has called me on this public thread (I have screenshots of all of them)

And l insist, having identified himself, that he is "a Quack and Technically Incompetent, as an installer", for damaging my Roof.

Both of us cant be right, an independent adjudicator will decide who is right. He can sue me, if he choses, for calling him such Name.

There is a Proverb that literally translates that "if #1 wants to insult or publicly damage your reputation, you wont mind spending #10 to clear your name".

Once again, l thank you for your inputs.
He does not even need to Apologize, except he accept full responsibility for the damage he caused, ....."insincere apology" is worse than "No Apology".

zeestone99:


Don't mind him. He's bored. Imagine after everyone going their separate ways you wake up after 11months to spread rubbish talks. He didn't even reach out to me.

He's a full blown exaggerator, I didn't even see any 15 holes which I'm very sure he was exaggerating. Someone that can confidently say my people were running on the roof with heavy 535w panels.
All I did was send a professional to take care of it. What more does he expect.

Tell him to send pictures of the installation I did, he won't because he knows it is a professional installation and would make him sound stupid for calling me names.

Not everyone can be saved. Good luck with his installer that installed 8.5kw mismatched panels on 80a cc

You are a Shameless Person, you did an Installation and destroyed the Client's Roof, causing an ongoing leakage situation.
I have been Uploading Pictures of the Damaged Roof where you installed just Ten Units of Solar Panels and the Damage is obvious for everyone to see, yet you are still here lying that l did not show the pictures of the Installation you did!
The Damage is still there till today and you are here mouthing-off saying it is a Professional Installation?
What is "Professional", in destroying a Client's Roof? Or is it that you dont even know the weight and responsibility of calling someone "a Professional"?

- You claim you did not see up to 15holes but you never showed up to inpect the damage, not even once, so how can you see what you did not come to inspect? or am l supposed to take 15 separate pictures to prove to you that there are more than 14holes leaking in my damaged Roof?
- You claim l did not reach out to you, so how come you sent a Roofer down? Where and how did you get the information that you damaged my Roof? Do the Chat exchanges between us, some of which l have posted, not show that l reached out to you, or you are just a congenial liar!

That you sent a Roofer..
WHAT EXACTLY DID THE ROOFER DO, that you are claiming you have REMEDIED the situation of a Client's Roof you damaged with your Incompetence and quackery?
The Roofer plugged some of the leaking Holes, how does that REMEDY the Damaged, Crushed Aluminum Roofing Sheets?
- How does that Stop the DEPRESSIONS you created on my Roof, from retaining Water, which eventually starts leaking into the House?

What Effrontery! All these shameless bravado is what gets people like you into trouble and then you turn around to beg!

Dont know, you are still liable for those damaged Sheets as their is no statute of limitation on when l can institute a Civil Action against you and your Company Mazine Group, for Criminal Negligence and Damage to my property (and you can dare me, and find out).
That l am taking it cool with you, has not removed that option from the Table but if you keep running your Mouth, with this your Quackery and Incompetence, your begging on WhatsApp wont save you, it is Lawyers that would sort this out and Courts can determine whether your actions are Criminal (as a professional Solar Panels that you call yourself) and l am entitled to Financial Compensation or not, even if l dont actually need that sort of money.

You @zeestone99 of Mazine Group is INCOMPETENT and a QUACK who destroyed a Clients Roof and Property, under the guise of doing a Solar Panel Installation

Oshomo12:
Wetin!!
I was off this thread by just 2days, and pages increased by how many again? Fire everywhere!

@Firethesun, I understand your pains, it's not palatable when you need to spend so much to rectify the damage.

@zeestone you should have paid more attention to his complaints about the roofing sheets, though this will slow your job down considerably, but will take care of this issue in the long run.

@truthbetold this your new response is far better than the previous ones. The moment he mentioned 0.55mm I knew within me that he was probably sold a lower gauge of roofing sheet. Cos 0.55mm can't be crashed that badly.

If you still have a piece of the roofing sheet, get a micrometer screewgauge and measure the thickness of your sheets.

I am reading the bolded part of your Post and still laughing to myself (amused).

Reason l a m amused is that you assumed, just like @Truthbetold, that l am just one of the "house owners" who dont know jack about Building and therefore l must have been cheated by "someone" who l must have sent to buy the Steptile Roofing Sheet.

If l was at home, l would have shown you pictures l took at the factory because some Drama happened there, that day.
In summary, the Roofer l took to the factory (who, among others gave me a quotation for the Roofing Sheet) was not expecting that we will be going together or that l know a thing or two about how they run things there. I paid directly into the factory's account, based on the Quantity he wrote down.

Then when it came to the production, l was given the "Cutting List" and he said, Oga, you can go, l will follow the Vehicle back to Site.
I said No, l am already here, its a full days job, for Sheets worth about #3.35Million .
When it was time to start Cutting my items, l said wait o. I brought out my Calipers and measured the Thickness and it was less!
I called the Operator's attention to it and he checked. he agreed that it was 0.45mm but told me that it must be another Buyer's Order.
I pointed to the Input on the Computer, which was my own List! he said it is a mistake and loaded the correct gauge of Roll of Aluminum. I measured again, with my own Claipers and it was 0.55mm and l said, lets begin Cutting
(this is why l was laughing at you guys thinking that l was sold 0.35mm ). Ofcourse, it was not my first time of buying these Roofing Sheets and l know the drill but this was my first time of buying from this Company.

At that point, my Roofer was beginning to fidget.
So they started Cutting and finished Cutting my List.
They they started loading it into the Vehicle just like that!

I said wait, give me that Cutting List, l want to check the items, one by one. they said it is already 5pm, there is no time.
I said even if it is 10pm, l will check them. They refused and asked their Security to take the items out and that one was doing gragra.
I phoned base at Ikeja and asked for two Boys, that put everyone in a good mood and we became friendly again

By the time we finished Counting, what was produced, was less than what l paid for, by as much as #850K!
I looked around for the Roofer l went along with, l cant find him anywhere, UP TILL TODAY, l have never set my eyes on him, l hear he resides in ikorodu. The way he disappeared is what is funny to me, anytime l recall that drama.

Long and shot, Soldiers wanted to start rough-handling the Workers there but they told me it was the Roofer who passed them another Cutting List and they showed it to me. Within a Few Minutes, they refunded the "Balance Money", back into my Account (and their Boos in the Office was very cooperative but l have a feeling that everyone was in-on-it.

He inflated the Quantity, hoping l will just hand him Money or just pay the manufacturing Company directly and sit back, waiting for my goods. But he gave then the actual Quantity that l need because that was what Roofed the House! He will then go back to collect his share. It is a well organized Crime Ring.

I watched as they loaded my Stuff and bid them good bye, while my vehicle followed the one carrying the Sheets, down to my Site.

End of the Story

Nobody, including this Quack and incompetent @zeestone99, has been able to[b] explain to me WHY[/b] another Installer who installed Bigger and Heavier Panels, on another side of the same Roof, did not Crush the Steptiles Aluminum Roofing Sheet.

Certainly, if the Thickness of the Sheets were to be blamed, as he is doing, the other Installer would have fallen victim to the same Problem and his side will be leaking too.
You guys should "just imagine", how loud it must have been and how they were running riot on the Roof, for me to hear it inside so loudly that l was so concerned and l voiced out that they would damage my Roof! Just imagine it, for a minute
On going to check inside the Ceiling, l saw a lot of depressions they have created with their wobbly legs and l showed some to him!
This Quack assured me there will be No leakage from them. If 0.35mm was the problem, would he not have said the Sheets were too thin, there and then?.
if the Sheets were 0.35mm, their legs would literally tear-through the Sheets and they would fall inside the ceiling

it was this same @zeestone99 that tricked and sold a counterfeit product to another member here, a few Months ago and there was brouhaha. he has a sordid reputation and cannot be trusted.

Below Pictures saved my Cloud, was taken by my very self, at the Company, when my Order was being produced.

Pix 1: My back frame during the Blinding Stage of the Storey Building in question, as the resident Engineer/Supervisor! .
Pix 2: The Steptile Aluminum Roofing Sheets in question, on the ground at the factory
Pix 3: The Angles for the same Roof
Pix 4: Loading a vehicle inside the factory, with finished Roofing Sheet.

All pictures, except the first, were taken by my very self.
I have gone to great lengths to let you know that the issue of being tricked to get 0.35, for 0.55mm, does not exist in my diary.
According to Chris Ngige (Education Minister), "I am a Lagos Boy".

Oshomo12:


Don't get me wrong, what I meant was that: during the initial installation not now o, when he said "he told you about it while your guys dey on top roof"

This was a pointer that u need to go slow and check on your guys THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMENT.

That is IF HE COMPLAINS THEN.

I am crucifying you in any way. I understand it's 11months after and he never mentioned it until now.

Whenever clients complain or do somehow (watch out for their spouses) during installation or any work at all. Just relax that work and hear them out well well.

Thank you for your comments and that of others which l am yet to respond to.

He is just lying, because l decided not to bother!
From our Chats that l posted (and in his last message), he admitted that l notified him IMMEDIATELY rain fell and the whole Roof was leaking.
You can see from the Chat, that l knew this guy has done a terrible job on my Roof.
It is very obvious, that when Five grown men are walking carelessly on a Roof, so much so we could hear the Sheets being Crushed, from inside the House and l had to message him about it on the Roof (even if the Roof was to be made of iron), the Sheets will be irreversibly damaged.
The principle of Roofing Sheet is not much about how strong they are but if they are Smooth and well inclined, Water will not hang around on it, it will land and flow-off immediately. But when you crush it and create mini-ponds where water can stay, it is bound to cause leakage!

A second, Competent Installer came and installed Bigger and Heavier Panels on another side of the SAME ROOF and there was No Crushing of Sheets, No leakage afterwards!
How do we then blame the Roof, instead of the Incompetent Quack that does not know how to walk on the Roof because he lacks the experience?
Why did the second Installer not damage the same Roof, despite carrying Bigger and Heavier Load on it?

I mean, this incompetent @zeestone and his Four Boys were just running around on my Roof, the way one will be walking on the ground!
Who does that on a Roof?
He is a SELLER, not an INSTALLER! The Quack and Incompetent @Zeestone99, used my Roof to learn Work!

Below is How the Roof looked, from the Top, before he went on it. Now let us compare this to how it looked (even from inside) after he left it.
is that not insane?
And he is here spewing thrash, claiming we attended to it? He never showed up ONCE, from the day l notified him of the damage till today.
He only sent a Roofer to come and plug the Nail Holes they created, the Roofer could not do anything about the Crushed Roofing Sheets.

I even invited the Roofer a second time, on my own nd without his knowledge (having seen his nonchalant behavior and not to let him think that such small change, l will pay the Roofer matters to me or l am expecting it from him) and paid him #10,000 from my own Pocket. I never mentioned it ..... but the damage that this quack zeestone99 did to my Roofing Sheets are STURCTURAL and PERMANENT.

Unless l change the Sheets, so many stagnant Pool of Water on the Roof, when they mix with dust, will eventually create hole at those spots and being a Storey building, it is not something one will be climbing everyday, to look for a Hole and plug it.

He did not do anything about that and what can he even do sef, when he cannot afford to replace the Roofing Sheet with his own Money?
That is why l just left him alone, which is what he is shamelessly bragging about now!

zeestone99:


Don't mind this man he's bored and an attention seeker. We both didn't know about any issues until few days after rain fell. Trust me he was attended to asap after he complained about the leakage. Everyone was good and went their way.
Now he's hell bent on calling me quack after his so called professional wasted his 8.5kw panels on an hybrid 80a cc high voltage mppt.
He's pained he can't consult me for professional advice no more. He's many things.

His so called professional parrallel 10 535w panels with anoda 5 655w panels and his Happy.

Not everyone can be saved.

Just end d Convo sir.

You are a LIAR!
First, you said l did not tell you there were any issues.
Now that l posted our conversation, you said you only knew after five days, when rain fell!
Where you supposed to know you did a shoddy job, until rain fell?
Was l not warning you, as shown in the conversation that you are destroying my Riif by walking carelessly on it?
Did you not assure me that there would be no leakage?
Its all there in the WhatsApp chat l posted.

How was l attended to?
Did you straighten back the Steptiles Roofing Sheet? Did they stop collecting Water stagnantly and stop leaking?

Stop the lies. You are simply incompetent and a quack
A Competent Installer will know from experience, how to walk on Roofing sheet! You did not, but ended up damaging my roof and now a QUACK like you is claiming l am seeking attention?
Attention for what exactly, please?

Professional Advice from an "Incompetent Quack" that damages a Client Roof? LMAO. You are brazen and Shameless.
Below are examples of what you made of my Roof.

truthbetold22:


Three takeaways from this

1- 10 545w panels and 5 650w panels cannot be on a 5kw mppt and you assume you got good service. That is just the installer maxing out the cc and leaving the rest to waste.

2- no one is spreading falsehood here, a copy of your chat was uploaded and you clearly said, from 15 holes, it is now only 2 that is leaking. If more holes of more leakage turn up, you have to reach out again and allow Zeestone fix it even though I realize that it is not entirely his fault and I ll explain below.

3- I am a building engineer. Wen working with aluminum roofing sheets, anything less than actual 0.45mm gauge is total rubbish and will create issues like this whenever anyone climbs the roof no matter how many. The sheets are so weak that even if you are very careful where you place your legs, wherever you walk on depresses and then shrinks and will not rise as it should. A proper 0.45mm-0.55mm gauge will not give this issues from my experience.

I am certain that @firethesun’s roof was installed by people who likely went for lower gauge aluminum thereby making Zeestone’s install way more difficult. I have experienced this many times. Roofers sell 0.35mm low quality as 0.45mm and the average home owner doesn’t know.

If you doubt me, @firethesun can get another roofer with a caliper to measure the gauge, he should then post pictures here.

You really should check your roof quality before accusing anyone.

Irrespective of our previous spat, l think you should not carry that, into this issue, which is why l think you are not being objective but displaying negative BIAS.

I will explain why l think so:

1) You cannot be CERTAIN, over what you have not seen! So, to say "I am certain", shows an initial bias.

2) This is not my first House. I personally supervise my builds. Every single material is bought by my very self and spouse (we go together most times ) if not that there is not time to waste, l would have recounted the story of a Roofer whom we went to Dopemu factory to buy these Steptile Roofing Sheets. You will laugh-die!

3) Yes, l have my own Calipers (l would have taken a picture with it, if l were at home right now...so you know) that l take along, when l go to buy things like Water Pipes (Orile), Cables (Coleman Cables), HDF/MDF boards, Keys, Wooden Doors, etc (Ojuwoye, Mushin), iron Rods (Adeniji or Owode Onirin), these Roofing Sheets (at the Dopemu factory where it was manufactured (cut and corrugated) in my presence, a whole day's job)!
So, to say that some workmen gave me 0.35, as 0.55 is an assumption you should not have made because it is not based on any fact!

4) though we dont know each other but l am not a "Spring Chicken", l have supervised the building of two houses in my neighborhood, because the owners saw me building my own and wanted to contract me (for a fee) to build theirs.
I simply told them l dont have the time to do so (and that is being honest) but l will help them Supervise it and it will be when l am around, since l travel a lot for work purpose and others. they call me "Engineer" (building) for a reason, but l am not a "Building" Engineer by Qualification.

5) Finally, a further 5 bigger capacity Panels (and size too!) was installed on other side of the Roof (Roof has Four parts), BY ANOTHER INSTALLER.
Not a Single Complaint or leakage! How do you explain and align that with your assertion that it was 0.35 gauge?
Did that installer do some magic, not to Depress the Roofing Sheets?
Its good to be fair in whatever we say and in this matter, you have "Not told the Truth".

BTW: Read the text l sent to him, the first day it rained (September 2nd, 2021) and here he is claiming that l did not contact him.
This is someone who never bordered to come and check the Roof, after l complained to him, he just referred me to an Roofer and ask them to deal with it!
When l see such "reaction", l just knew l had dealt with a wrong person.
At a point, l contacted my Lawyer and explained things to him (when this incompetent Installer was trying to shift responsibility, as he is doing now) and he said all l need was to give him the go-ahead to institute a Civil Suit.
It was actually my Wife that told me to "let it go", after the Installer began to beg and "speak reasonably" (I have the Chats) moreover, I knew that worst case scenario (which is what l always prepare for, when a problem arises), l will have to replace the affected Roofing Sheets.
To God be the glory, I wont even be spending money from my purse, rent from two Flats will cover whatever expenses that may arise from this.
That is why l just did not bother him and continue to work on a remedy myself! But should he have come over to inspect it himself, even later?

Now, this matter reared its head, when l saw the work done by another Installer! I was jealous (who wont be?) and wished l had not given my work to this quack installer called @zeestone99.
But despite all these, what caused the spat between us was that you felt l was covering up for a bad installer, since l refused to name him.
And l thought, what do l gain from that, whenl had made up my mind to solve the problem the way l know best?

it is his show-off and pretense that he did a "fine job", coupled with the "small sense" of trying to jump the gun and seize the initiative, that led him to expose himself.

Let us be honest; if you say you are "a Professional" in a Job, you do it and do it well because it is expected that you have the EXPERIENCE to deal with any scenario that comes up. That is what differentiates an Amateur, from a true Professional
If you cant do the job without damaging the Client's property, then you simply say "i cant do it". But to do it, damage Client's property and still be claiming "fine job", is what l cant phantom.

I gave the installation job of the 2nd set of Panels (which are much Heavier and Wider) to a True Professional, on the same Roof!
Not a Single Leaks, No complaint, l did not even hear "these Roofing Sheet Crushing Sounds" l was hearing, when these @zeestone99 and his boys were running wild on my Roof!

He told me he knows how to walk on this sort of Roofing Sheets, as he has done many of the type.
That is COMPETENCE and EXPERIENCE, not somebody selling Materials, now calling himself an Installer.

Edit: Your statement about the installer maxing out and leaving the rest to waste, is again, not borne out of facts!
There is No Waste!
I use some of the Wattage to charge my 27KW LifePo4 Cells and use the rest to run all my appliances in DAYTIME.

I dont want to go into an argument of the above, but when you run what l run on it, the way we configure it, then you would agree with me that nothing is wasted.

zeestone99:

Lol what xtra moni. Hw mch did u pay. I tink you are just looking for cheap attention otherwise you would have called me and given me update on the situation. Installation of over 11months. U didn't say anything but going behind my back to spill talk.
If u v issues and u looking for solutions call me or call d roofer for inspection. if there's anything to be changed we will change it for you.
If it's attention u r looking for then write more epistles online.

End

Well, if this is how you want to roll.....


Why dont you just state those prices here? No matter the amount, that is what we agreed to and l even add Extra dash to you, after the work. You should have told me that you are cheap, a quack and incompetent!
All these your bravado and lies wont whitewash your incompetence.

I called you on September 2nd, 2021, immediately Rain fell and everywhere started leaking.

Am l to ask you to come and replace my Roofing sheets?
The mistake l made is employing a quack and incompetent installer like you and l bear responsibility for that, that is why l am bearing the Cost of Replacement of the Roofing sheets myself and did not come back to you, all you were giving me are EXCUSES.

Below is our Chat, the first day the rain fell and l called your attention to the quack and incompetent job you did, (damaging my Roof in the process) because you lack the experience, training and competence to do a good job
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Why are you lying that l am informing you 11months after?

I have added q picture of how the Steptiles Aluminum Roofing Sheet look like originally and how you deformed them and destroyed the Roofing sheets, with your incompetence and quackery.

Another Qualified and Professional Installer did the next 5Panels and not a single damage or leakage!

zeestone99:

Lol why won't I identify myself, I don't steal, do shady jobs or defraud people. I have many clients turned family here.

Now back to the issue sir. if u feel u still have issues call me or call d roofer directly let him come and rectify it. I will attach a screenshot of our conversation so you can remember and know why I didn't bother you again cos I believe all is settled.
From the conversation u said u ll fix date with him. I already left the rest for both of u.

Yes I told you we can parrallel d inverter(if it supports parrallel) or get a new controller.
You have 10 units 535w and 5 units 655w.
That's a total of 15panels worth over 8.5kw and it's even Canadian solar

You then put this on 5kva 80a axpert that has just around 5kw mppt, you are short changing yourself.

Another question is How were they able to parallel 15 panels on the same inverter. Did they parallel 8 panels with another 7.

You know you have been posting and posting since yesterday and l am trying not to respond to those FALSEHOOD you are spreading, just because it is not in me to start this back-and-forth with you, on this matter.

If l should share our Chats the way you did, you will expose your lies by yourself.

But let me limit myself to the Picture in the attachment you posted.
the first picture shows a little, of one of the damages wherein you used your foot to squash the Aluminum Steptiles of the Roof. The depression can be seen in that picture! You destroyed the Roofing sheet by creating "puddles" everywhere you matched with your Feet, Five adults running riot on an Aluminum Steptiles Roofing.
Is that something that can be repaired by using a rubbery material to plug a hole (which is mostly what the Roofer you sent did, to plug Holes created by the indiscriminate Nailing you did on my Roof, causing leaks?

The Second Picture also shows water-soaked on my Suspended Ceiling! Many of them were condemned because they became soaked and buckled.
Did the Roofer you sent also replace such Ceilings, some of which fell down after soaking so much Water?
Yes, he tried his best and l confirmed that. After he left, there were still leakages, some of which we discovered later when we started seeing equipment soaked! All this are in the chart l sent to you.
My Tenant was also not around for sometime, and we did not know that the Roof on his side of the installation was damaged so much. Roofer did not know, could not identify or repair his side, when the Roofer you sent came.

Contrary to your belief, l felt you are wasting my time because l knew an irreversible damage has already been done to my Roof, from your incompetency!
I called the Roofer back a second time, but did not tell you.
I paid him #10,000 for that second Visit but that money was too inconsequential for me to call you over moreover, you are always giving me excuses of why you cant show up to visit and inspect the damage you caused. I have Proof of this, if you doubt it.

Due to the nature of damage (changing the contour of the ridges of the Roofing sheet , with your careless walking over it, making water run-off impossible, creating puddles everywhere, which later react with the Aluminum and create holes at that spot) and how widespread they are, l concluded l have no choice than to change them to new ones!
I dont want everybody in the neighborhood wondering why Roofers are always climbing my Roof every now and then, that can be embarrassing to me afteral, they would be wondering: if the Sheets are bad, why cant he just change them? No Roofer has climbed my Roof in the last four years, before you came.

The job l engaged you for, was to install 10 Panels, (just like engaged someone else to install 5 panels later), not to damage my Roofing and be telling me that you sent a Roofer to "plug the Holes created by your indiscriminate nailing and you paid for it"!
How come the other Installer l engaged to the the 5 Panels did not cause any damage to the Roof?

I even gave you Extra Money, apart from your charges and cost of items you supplied (which l said you should use to drink beer with your Boys), on completion of the work that day, do l deserve what l got in return?

I was not asking you for anything, when l made my post a few days ago, l did not even identify you but you were trying to play smart, by quickly identifying yourself, trying to seize the momentum, once you read where l said People can send me l private message, if they wanted to know the Installer who did the terrible job, but you then use that opportunity to lie and pretend like you did a wonderful job!

Well, if an Installer caused a problem running into Millions of Naira for a Client, just to install Ten Panels, can we say that Installer is a Professional or have we change the meaning of doing 'a Professional' job?

The most painful part in all these was that l was warning you, as you were doing the work, that the way you are walking carelessly on these Aluminum Steptiles Roofing sheet, you will damage it (even my wife was complaining about the same thing) but you said l should not worry, it cant be damaged! But you ended up damaging the whole Roofing Sheets,.

I am trying not to be pushed into uploading pictures of your terrible work because it adds nothing to me.
But l dont like all these white washing you are doing here.
Leaking and damaged Roofing sheets should not be the End Result of the job l gave you, irrespective of whether you sent a roofer back to assist in plugging some of those Holes.
The Crushed Roofing sheets cant be straightened back, so the DAMAGE you caused is permanent (and they keep leaking time, after time .... unless l change them, which l will, in a few weeks time.

if you want to know how the "Proper" Professional Installer l engaged, who did not cause a single damage, did the installation, including correcting the shoddy work you did, l can refer you to him, for some free lectures.

I am just restraining myself, l watched the pictures of the damages on my phone again, just now.
Its your Cross, you have proved your Competency and judged yourself to have done a "fine job", what else can l say.?

zeestone99:


I remember this job.
You called us to just come and install 10panels around 525w or thereabout. You said you had everything on ground.
we did you a fine install but then you had leaks and you briefed me the situation while I was not in town.
I called two roofers and sent them down cos they were forming tight schedule so it was which ever one comes 1st. Both came and you choose one, I paid him and he did the job. I also confirmed from you and you told me you are good. You never mentioned the leaks again. Our next Convo was when you needed to add additional panels. I told u we had a job at hand and we can come around X day. You said you would be travelling, you can't wait and we agreed someone else should do the job cos I'm unavailable at the moment.
You never mentioned you have leaks or your roof has been damaged and it will cost 2million to fix.
you didn't tell me, you didn't call the roofer(u v his no) cos he wud v called me for money. You already told me that the roofer did an excellent job.
I have done several installation for clients turned friend here. They can attest to our work. We do fine jobs. Yours just had issues and we fixed it.

Roof jobs can be tricky depending on the design and materials(thickness of sheet and wood) used for the roof. You don't know what's there until you go up there and sometimes there can be leaks. Infact most times I tell clients to get a carpenter on standby depending on how I see your roof. The leaks can be stopped it's nothing serious.

@truthbetold let's not trade strong words here, I believe we can always pass our message in better ways without insult. You don't know who is behind every username. Pls let's respect each other .

Happy weekend.

I want to believe you have your reasons for identifying yourself as the Installer. If you did not, you can bet l wont, it is not my style of correcting someone. But you have, so that burden is no longer on me.
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Now, I will MENTION and EXPLAIN a few things:

- How can you say: "we did a fine install but you had leaks"? (in the Roof, after your work)
Are Leakages in the Roof, (when l did not have them before you came to install), part of this "fine install"?

- How can l confirm to you that "we are good", when it has not rained, after the effort of the person you sent, and when you asked?
I confirmed to you that he came and did his job, "hopefully" the leakage would have been rectified, but that can only be determined after it rains again!

Yes, we had Leaks, even after his effort . Not because he did not do a good Job but because he can only do as much!
He was able to block some visible Nail holes but the damage was varied and widespread

The Roofer you sent tried his best (you should have brought along this Roofer with you, when you came to do the installation) but "Squashed" Aluminum Steptiles Roofing Sheets are impossible to be straightened up again after crushing it by walking on them without due care, anyone who had seen Steptiles Aluminum Roofing Sheets, knows this. We had Leakages from various Nail points as well..
I was "shocked" since that was my first experience of a Leaking Roof ( and angry" as well), though internally, l was blaming myself, for the choice l made.
I just decided to "learn the lessons" and concentrate effort to rectify the problem, as quickly as possible.

The "other side" could not have been repaired, when the Roofer you sent came to do the repair because, as of that moment, l never knew there were leaks on that side too (My Tenant was not around during that period when you installed the Panels on his side).

I did not say the "repairs" will cost over #2M.
What l said was that l will have to replace the Roofing Sheets with new ones, at over #2Million.
Replacement => Put in fresh Roofing sheets.
Repair => Call Roofer to be looking for Holes to plug.

But he cant push-back-out and straighten all the depressions caused by your Legs marching (carelessly) on the Steptile Aluminum Roofing Sheets, can he?.
Somethings, when damaged, can never go back to their original form, even after repair. What you do is replace them, if you want to go back to your initial state before the damage.
That is current state of the problem now.

When it rains, depending on the intensity of the rain, those "Foot Depressions" act like BOWLS, they store rain water and then when full, the Water overflows in a direction of least resistance, without following the grooves, (as it would have done in an undamaged Roofing Sheet) which can be anywhere on the roof!
Roofing sheets on a Roof are meant to have smooth grooves and slanted in a particular direction so that water flows down as it drops on it, without accumulating in "big depressions" created by squashing of 10 People's feet walking on the Roof .....without a care or as if it is made of Wood! I explained all these to you back then. I took pictures and sent them to you.

The Roofer you sent did try to "push-back-out" some of these Squashed Depressions on the Steptile Roofing Sheets, (from inside the Ceiling) but in most cases, they only got worse because Steptile Roofing Sheet are not supposed to be pushed in and out, due to the designs on them and the Depressions were just too many.

l am the sort of person that likes inconveniencing people, including my tenant, with a leaking Roof.
How does someone pay me premium Money for a House and he has to be collecting water in his Bedroom, Kitchen, etc, because the House Owner installed Solar Panels?
What l wont take, l wont do to others and l have promised him that once l am back in the country from my Travels, l will replace All the Roofing Sheets in that area that were depressed with your feet and leaking, with new ones.
By my estimate, it will cost over #2Million to complete the job. That is what l wrote.
If your intention is to contest the amount, then go and find out how much they sell a length of 0.55 gauge Aluminum Steptile Roofing sheet and multiply by how many will cover the area, (add accessories like Nails, Flyband, rent Ladder, etc to it and include workmanship).
Add the cost of damaged, suspended Ceilings to it (areas where the Water leaked unto the suspended Ceilings and they buckled, after getting soaked)

But l am sure you would have learned some lessons from that job, which is the crucial thing.

- Like not having too many people on the Roof, at the same time. Just the minimum required.
At that time you were doing my Installation, you had yourself and four other guys on my Roof a few times though most times, you were on the ground.! It was as if my Roof was being used as a 'teaching experiment'.
As you guys were working and walking around on the Roof, l could hear the sound of "Crushing of the Roofing Sheet", with each Step taken, as they were walking on it!
I am sure you remember how l was raising the Alarm that you guys will damage this Roof? The Crushing sound was so evident from inside the House! You kept assuring me nothing will happen and l believed you, against my instincts.
I want to believe such wont happen in the future, when you install for others.
Experienced Installers should know how to delicately walk on the Roof without Squashing the Aluminum Steptile Roofing Sheet, those things are kind of fragile.

Like l said, another installer (just Three people, only Two were on the Roof, One was Down) recently installed additional Five Panels (655W each) earlier this year, all the area he worked on, not a single leak and the rain has been brutal this year, so it is not about the material or style of Roof, it is just "inexperienced" Workmanship.

Remember you told me l have to buy another Inverter, if l were to add those New, Five Panels?
Well, we did not have to buy any other Inverter, the New Installer l engaged just re-arranged the whole configuration and it is pumping out Power mercilessly..
We are completely off-grid in the last four Months-plus and Electric Cooker, Washing Machine, Submersible Pumps, Freezers and all other Home appliances are under normal use, though we do stagger and Submersible Pump not to run around 2pm only.
Why did l mention this? It appears there is a "knowledge gap", when you told me l cant add those New Panels to the existing ones, unless l buy a Second Inverter (which l would have done, if you came that day as l had called Gennextechnologies office immediately).
You said you needed to run them New Panels separately on a separate Inverter, for them to work.
As God will have it, l did not have to buy another Inverter.

My aim, in not mentioning the identity of the Installer (which drew the ire of some people here), is to mention the problem so the installer or anyone in such position, can learn from such mistakes, without damaging the image or brand of such offending Installer. I have No Apology for that decision, that is who l am

I never raised the issue here, until l was "wowed" by the Installation of that many panels by @Chris and even at that, l still kept your identity PRIVATE, with someone abusing me over it!. Having worked for me and our discussions about 'Unilag', you obviously knew, as an elderly person, exercising control over one's anger, even when l feel offended, is not unusual, would l ask you to come and replace the Roof that was damaged? (I remember explaining the issue of "vicarious liability" to you, on phone)
Being Vindictive, is not one of my attributes moreover, l passed those stages, a long time ago, l dont know who my own grown-up children will meet, in far flung places.

I hope this brings Closure to the whole matter, now that the Installer has identified himself.

samnaija:


You have very good points, why bring about a scenero when you can't or won't give out the name of the installer.
This is an open forum a lot of make decisions about solar from here.
The only problem I have is your outburst to insult an individual No! That is wrong. Keep things clean no need to insult anyone here.

This thread has helped a lot of people to usher them into solar.
Marketers have been burnt alive with terrible reviews and alot of people within this thread agreed and this in a way has saved alot of people from dodge marketers.
So if we have an installer amongst us that damaged a roof running into millions, and is nameless dont bring it here please.
The reason I am speaking on this I had a similar personal experience with an installer , not from nairaland that damaged my roof. After he installed my first set of panels come an see buckets of rainwater I fetch from within my house . They guy virtual punched holes every where and pressed life out of my aluminum roof and the ridges.
Changed the installer (non nairaland) during an
Upgrade, and I was personally involved in everything making sure they don't dent or depress my roof. Roof leakeage is a thing that should be discussed more on the thread to help newbies avoid the disaster ...

I think you meant well, so l will respond to your Post.

There is a reason they write "Caveat Emptor" (Buyers Beware) on a Wall, but dont attach anybody's name to it. We might ask: Why dont they name the Person they think wants to sell the House? Why make a "general Notice without naming anyone (This might not be a perfect example though)
But it still works because it puts everyone on "General Notice/Awareness".
It is now left for an intended Buyer to do more due diligence, to find out the rightful owner and verify any claim that is made..

It may appear contradictory to some that l mentioned the issue, (though it was just an "aside-remarks" in relation to the beautiful Installation done by @Chris ), but l did not mention the Name of the Installer, it has reasons.

Most People think the whole idea behind making a REVIEW, is to DESTROY a Business or a Product, the inherent reason of making a Review, in my own understanding, is to make the Seller/Producer/Product BETTER.
How you achieve this is to let the Seller/Producer/Product Owner know that "there is a possibility for damage to his/her Brand, if he/she does not IMPROVE their 'Game'.

I am too matured to want to destroy the Business of a younger person, despite the damage it caused me but l want him to know, openly here that it wont be "Business as usual" and he has to either IMPROVE or STOP Installing Panels.
Just that, l have achieved my own set objective.

But from your Statement, you asked: How will that Help others not to fall Victim?
Good Question!
Three ways:
1) The Installer in Question is reading this and he knows that he is just a Click-away from being Unmasked!
If you were him, will you repeat the same awful job or you will step up your game and start doing good jobs? My own conclusion is that he will IMPROVE, which is my desire, not to damage his Brand or Business beyond repair.
That is left for very Vindictive people like the rude, uncouth boy running his mouth all over the place. Always trying to damage others, he tried to damage @Valto at a point. He tried to rundown @Niyi's Installation at a point, insulting both of them.

2) Any genuine Client who wants to engage an Installer, has the liberty to contact me and ask PRIVATELY, that l let him know if the Person he wants to engage, is the Installer who damaged my Roof. That way, l do not damage the Brand of the 'wayward' installer but l could alert the Client on another Installer or ask him to supervise this my installer properly.
That way, any Client will still have achieved the same Objective they want to achieve, if the Installer was named.

3) A Client, having read the "Buyers Beware" Post l made earlier, has the duty to ask any Installer he wants to engage, to PROVIDE "REFERENCE" from owners of former Jobs done i.e. give me the Phone number of one or Two Clients you've Installed for, let me speak with them.
The advantage in this, is two fold:
(a) He wont be able to do so, if he has damaged his reputation or did a bad job.
(b) He probably would, if he values his Brand, ensure that he does not leave "a bad taste in the Mouth" of other Customers and this is where the "desired improvement" on the part of the installer, comes in.

The Installer that did my Job is reading this, he knows he did wrong but l wont Name him just "so l can damage him", ....... because l am not just that type of Person.
My aim is not to "destroy" but "to build", to make others better, to improve others, to be constructive in my criticism and l am doing it as l deemed it most fit.

I wont let any manner-less, untrained runt from the gutter goad me into doing what l believe is "not the best" of actions.
I am past that stage in Life!
It is left for anyone who thinks the post is useful to him, to read it, otherwise he can skip it
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Go through the posts of this @truthbetold22 guy and you would see that he has INSULTED almost everybody on this thread, (from page 679 - 681 are all his Insults on members), from Mctfopt, Ceasser, Valto, Niyi, bigrovar, solasola, durodee, Barezzi, etc and same thing on other threads.
Everyone who does not do things his way, is Stupid, is an Idiot, is a Fool, bla, bla, bla!
His default position is to use foul language on others and it is a reflection of his Upbringing.

Go through his Post, it is jus about abusing People, no sense, no value, no contribution but all Insults.
You cant give what you dont have. Its like putting a Pig, in a China Shop! A Child raised in the Gutter, even if you put him on a well-laid Bed, he will roll around, fall down and roll into the Gutter where he belongs.

This is a faceless forum but a few People here have had "contact with me offline", including the Installer who did my Roof and they would testify that l am not the kind of person that empty empty brain expect me to be.

truthbetold22:


Shut up sir. If you could give a review about a bad job, then you should mention the name. If you choose not to mention the name of the installer, then it means you are either a coward or nothing of such ever happened and you are just trying to hype or promote an installers job.

Nonetheless, you have not helped anyone with your useless, half-complete review. It is you who has comprehension problems because if you realize that this is a public forum, you would not make baseless accusations without clearly identifying who you are referring to.

COWARD!!

I am not sure you have a father at home otherwise you wont be insulting me or maybe you are used to telling him to shut-up?
This is what bad upbringing causes, your issues are obviously deeper than l thought!

I dont owe your type, any explanation.
You can rant all day, l wont even dignify your type with a conversation.
Just booze-off my mentions and go see a shrink-head.

IYGEAL:


Another installer on this thread, @Olopan, installed 9 units of big 405w panels for me.

No damages, no leakages.

That is how it should be,
"Welldone" @Olopan.
I have been paying attention to him for some time now and he comes across as a very focused and meticulous person.
More grease to his elbow.

truthbetold22:


So you can name the installer who did a good job but you prefer that Nairalanders fall prey to the installer who ruined your roof so we can incur the same damages of 2 million like you?

There is a reason why people give reviews. If you cannot name the installer who did a bad job, then keep shut. This has happened one too many times on this thread. What are you protecting?

Nigerians are hypocrites.

I wont respond to your Rudeness and Uncouth Childishness.
Obviously, you have a huge comprehension problem because No where in my Post, did l mention the Name of who did a Good Job, nor who did a bad Job.

chris81964:
Half the panels are up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gnifFk5yf4

Waoh!
Nice, Professional job you have done up there! I envy this install, just looking at it right now.

Unlike what an Installer on this thread, did to my Roof when l asked that he install just Ten Units of Panels on my Roof.
This installer and his Team so damaged my Roof that at the end of the day, l am considering buying NEW Aluminum Steptiles Roofing Sheet to cover the whole area those Panels were installed.

My Roof has never leaked since about Six years l built this particular Storey building, l live in this one so l know it has never experience a leakage but after the installation, it has been multiple leakages here and there.
The Team of Installers just use their feet to crush the Aluminium Roofing Sheets, causing big depressions everywhere.
I have had Roofers try to plug the leakages created but getting the Depressions to "push back up and normalize" is a daunting task, as the damage was just too extensive.
I have concluded l have to replace all those areas where the Panels are located, and their surrounding Sheets as well.
Imagine incurring a damage of over #2M, in the course of a job of less than #100,000?

It is a lesson to me, to always check the previous work of an installer, seek reference from previous Clients, before giving out a job
Hobbyist or Sellers should stop claiming to be Professional Installers.

BTW: I have since added Five more Panels (655W each), to the other Side of the Building's Roof, done by another Installer and without any issue from that side.

justcallmenuel:
200w solar street light available, #20,000. Call/WhatsApp me on 08168986461

What is the Luminous Intensity (in Lumens) of this Street Light, l am interested in buying?
Can you provide the spec sheet here for me, pls

GeorgeD1:


it's not only about the sweetness bro. canadian solar has proven its named over time and many
savvy hobbyists and installers have come to rely on it for quality. in yesteryears jinko was not really known
for great quality but i guess over time they might have upped their game - as most oems have done in recent
time. as for internet product comparisons, i would take such writeups with a pinch of salt because anybody
write can anything and cook up figures to promote an agenda.

He must be referring to the "Alaba-Made type" of Canadian Solar, l guess perhaps

I am an End User, l a not selling anything, not Panels, not Inverters, so l dont need to pad-up any information here because l have no benefit from hyping a second rate Solar Panel, unlike those who do so, because that is what they have in store to sell.

Only a few sellers here, can anyone take their word or product recommendation seriously, majority will tell you that what they have in Stock is the best, even when they know that is not true! We know them by their past antecedents.

Original Canadian Solar Panels are still the best in the market.
There is a reason why Companies with Tradition, try to protect their Named Product and even go to court to protect any copyright or registered name infringement, it is because they have put in a lot of Effort, Money, Research and Development, to get their products to the level it is and that is why our Alaba Sellers want to produce a Counterfeit Version of it.

GeorgeD1:


hello bro,
i started this journey into energy freedom over 10yrs ago primarily because i was frustrated with then epileptic
power situation in the country. i ran electricity generators for a while and kept asking myself "is there no better way
of providing power than this?" then, i started making some research and discovered there was actually a sustainable
alternative to what i was struggling to achieve: solar power.
so, long answer cut short: its about energy freedom (that feeling of being in control of your energy supply is something
out of this world also, being able to quietly harness the power of the sun on a bright sunny day while others are
lamenting and complaining about the heat could be hilarious to say the least
lastly, its about economics. believe it or not, its cheaper to go solar in the long run compared to running fuel guzzling
generators. i did a cost calculation years ago (when fuel was still 65 naira per liter) and realized that i was able to recover
everything i spent in setting up my solar system within 2yrs if i were to run my generator 3hrs everyday excluding oil
changes and regular maintenance.
with fuel now at 165 naira per liter and likelihood of increment of pump price in the near future, your guess is as good
as mine how long it would take to recoup my investment if i had set it up at this present time.
to cap it up, there's no better time to go off-grid than now. my solar set up keeps making more sense on a daily basis
when i hear of frequent national grid collapse and fuel scarcity with vehicle queues everywhere. the sun has never
collapsed as far back as modern man started keeping records and never have my solar modules run out of juice.
with solar, i tell you there's no scarcity!

You have put it, as best as no one could.
FREEDOM, ON-DEMAND, COST SAVINGS.
Solar is supposed to pay for itself over a long time, but with the high cost of energy (Gas, Electricity, Fuel) and the incessant grid collapse of our Country, Solar is paying for itself in even shorter time than was predicted (averagely 15yrs)

Is there anyone in the House who knows about conversion of Petrol Engine to Electric ?
My problem is how to convert my Petrol Car Engines to run on Electric (not looking to buy off the shelf Electric Vehicles).
Like we did for home use, l want to be able to use flexible (and even if not flexible) Solar Panels on the Roof of my car and let it harness juice when l park it in the Sun. I also want to be able to load the bot with LifePo4 cells, as much as l want.

I have heard snippets of people who convert Petrol Engines to use Gas or even turn it to EV but there is a serious knowledge gap on how to do it.
Na so e dey take start o, fertile minds on this thread should please roll it over in their minds.

And some people here are still recommending SMK Inverters to Newbies here?!
Well, those that have Ears, let them hear, what the Spirit is saying.

sethtsadopp:


Thanks for your response, I understand your point. But I have done some research online and from all I could gather, the Jinko Tiger Pro series is actually either at par or even slightly better in performance and quality as Canadian solar.

https://lightningsolar.com.au/canadian-vs-jinko-solar-panels/

This is one out of many review I saw doing comparisons. Jinko appears to have come a long way. I believe the Tiger Pro series has an efficiency of 21.4% which is great.

No worries, Your Money, Your Choice!
All the best Sir.

codeME:


thank you so much sir. Any other good options apart from LifePo4? Thanks.

At this moment, that is the best option l can recommend to another person and it is what l also use.
You can also read reviews of others on this thread, to help you make up your mind.

codeME:
please what is the best battery to use for inverters now. Thanks

LifePo4 Cells are my best suggestion for you.
there is a Man on this thread @Valto, who can couple genuine Cells for you.

solareclips:
Good day all, please i need a suggestion for reliable 5kva solar hybrid inverter to buy. thanks in anticipation.

Buy the guy below.

https://shop.gennextechnologies.com/product/gennex-axpert-king-5kva-off-grid-inverter/

I have used it and l can vouch that it is rugged, especially for the Price.
If you want to splash cash, the like of Phocos, Deye, etc are also good.

sethtsadopp:


Wow, the price is significantly higher than other Tier 1 like Jinko (138k vs 171k for 545w). What are the advantages of Canadian over Jinko Tiger Pro

I am not sure of how to respond to this, because l am not an expert on the subject but like you, l asked the same question when l wanted to begin my own RE journey. Let me recount, in details.

The explanation a trusted Senior Bros gave me was: if you are asked to go to a Car Dealership and pick any of two Vehicles on Sale, a Mercedes Benz or a Hyundai, which one will you pick?
I did not ley him finish before l responded: Benz-er!
He said why would l pick a Benz and not a Hyundai afteral, both of them can take me home or take me anywhere l want to go, both uses fuel and four Tires, he went on and on about their similarities.

I jumped-in and said well, Benz costs more than a Hyundai!
He countered again and said: Even that should not be so, afteral, they are both Cars and do the same thing: take occupants from Point A to B.

Being someone who had used a Mercedes Benz 230E V-Boot in the late 90's, l countered back by saying, try to negotiate a bend at very high speed and you will see how the Wheels of a Bens will not just turn (like all other cars do) but also bend sideways, to give you added stability by lowering its centre of gravity (while other Cars will likely summersault as a result), not to mention the internal comforts and German Engineering ruggedness! Motor that just refuse to stop working.

He then told me: The Canadian Solar is like your Mercedes Benz, while the Jinkos and Yinkos are the Hyundai of this world!.
Benz might be costlier but you get what you pay for!
He added: I work hard for money so l wont just throw it away, if there is no additional value to the extra cost.
He has been using his Canadian Solar ever since, long before l bought mine.
This story always remind me that "Cheaper" is not always Better but it will do, if availability of funds are a major issue".

shinealight:


On the contrary….Jagaban plus Ganduje equal Maximum votes from SW, NW, NE and NC in 2023. Watch out for it!!

Only ish people give maximum Votes to Rogues!
Your Children will one day ask you: How did you vote and elect these Rogues that destroyed our future?

AntonVince:
First thing that came to my mind too.
Tinubu + Gandollar...just imagine the sort of criminals being mulled for presidency? That's like pairing Anini and Shina Rambo.

O ma se o!

Nigeria is being run by thieves and Criminals, since the time of IBB.

Nigeria id bleeped.[/color]

yinkus6750:
Good decision.
Hope you maintain your stand till the end.
Everyone has equal right to the position.
Lawan miscalculated.

I agree with the guy, he should not stand down for Lawan.
How can someone get the confidence of the Voters, win an election and another person who did not take part in the election, try to claim it?
Even INEC must ban such nonsense, it is UNdemocratic.
No one should be imposed on the People.
Once people like Lawan get into one Office, they turn Politics to their Life Occupation, doing nothing else than fleecing Nigerians.

Well, one day, Nigerians will wake up and treat the Bleep-up of these Politicians,