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zeestone99:
I remember this job.
You called us to just come and install 10panels around 525w or thereabout. You said you had everything on ground.
we did you a fine install but then you had leaks and you briefed me the situation while I was not in town.
I called two roofers and sent them down cos they were forming tight schedule so it was which ever one comes 1st. Both came and you choose one, I paid him and he did the job. I also confirmed from you and you told me you are good. You never mentioned the leaks again. Our next Convo was when you needed to add additional panels. I told u we had a job at hand and we can come around X day. You said you would be travelling, you can't wait and we agreed someone else should do the job cos I'm unavailable at the moment.
You never mentioned you have leaks or your roof has been damaged and it will cost 2million to fix.
you didn't tell me, you didn't call the roofer(u v his no) cos he wud v called me for money. You already told me that the roofer did an excellent job.
I have done several installation for clients turned friend here. They can attest to our work. We do fine jobs. Yours just had issues and we fixed it.

Roof jobs can be tricky depending on the design and materials(thickness of sheet and wood) used for the roof. You don't know what's there until you go up there and sometimes there can be leaks. Infact most times I tell clients to get a carpenter on standby depending on how I see your roof. The leaks can be stopped it's nothing serious.

@truthbetold let's not trade strong words here, I believe we can always pass our message in better ways without insult. You don't know who is behind every username. Pls let's respect each other .

Happy weekend.

I want to believe you have your reasons for identifying yourself as the Installer. If you did not, you can bet l wont, it is not my style of correcting someone. But you have, so that burden is no longer on me.
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Now, I will MENTION and EXPLAIN a few things:

- How can you say: "we did a fine install but you had leaks"? (in the Roof, after your work)
Are Leakages in the Roof, (when l did not have them before you came to install), part of this "fine install"?

- How can l confirm to you that "we are good", when it has not rained, after the effort of the person you sent, and when you asked?
I confirmed to you that he came and did his job, "hopefully" the leakage would have been rectified, but that can only be determined after it rains again!

Yes, we had Leaks, even after his effort . Not because he did not do a good Job but because he can only do as much!
He was able to block some visible Nail holes but the damage was varied and widespread

The Roofer you sent tried his best (you should have brought along this Roofer with you, when you came to do the installation) but "Squashed" Aluminum Steptiles Roofing Sheets are impossible to be straightened up again after crushing it by walking on them without due care, anyone who had seen Steptiles Aluminum Roofing Sheets, knows this. We had Leakages from various Nail points as well..
I was "shocked" since that was my first experience of a Leaking Roof ( and angry" as well), though internally, l was blaming myself, for the choice l made.
I just decided to "learn the lessons" and concentrate effort to rectify the problem, as quickly as possible.

The "other side" could not have been repaired, when the Roofer you sent came to do the repair because, as of that moment, l never knew there were leaks on that side too (My Tenant was not around during that period when you installed the Panels on his side).

I did not say the "repairs" will cost over #2M.
What l said was that l will have to replace the Roofing Sheets with new ones, at over #2Million.
Replacement => Put in fresh Roofing sheets.
Repair => Call Roofer to be looking for Holes to plug.

But he cant push-back-out and straighten all the depressions caused by your Legs marching (carelessly) on the Steptile Aluminum Roofing Sheets, can he?.
Somethings, when damaged, can never go back to their original form, even after repair. What you do is replace them, if you want to go back to your initial state before the damage.
That is current state of the problem now.

When it rains, depending on the intensity of the rain, those "Foot Depressions" act like BOWLS, they store rain water and then when full, the Water overflows in a direction of least resistance, without following the grooves, (as it would have done in an undamaged Roofing Sheet) which can be anywhere on the roof!
Roofing sheets on a Roof are meant to have smooth grooves and slanted in a particular direction so that water flows down as it drops on it, without accumulating in "big depressions" created by squashing of 10 People's feet walking on the Roof .....without a care or as if it is made of Wood! I explained all these to you back then. I took pictures and sent them to you.

The Roofer you sent did try to "push-back-out" some of these Squashed Depressions on the Steptile Roofing Sheets, (from inside the Ceiling) but in most cases, they only got worse because Steptile Roofing Sheet are not supposed to be pushed in and out, due to the designs on them and the Depressions were just too many.

l am the sort of person that likes inconveniencing people, including my tenant, with a leaking Roof.
How does someone pay me premium Money for a House and he has to be collecting water in his Bedroom, Kitchen, etc, because the House Owner installed Solar Panels?
What l wont take, l wont do to others and l have promised him that once l am back in the country from my Travels, l will replace All the Roofing Sheets in that area that were depressed with your feet and leaking, with new ones.
By my estimate, it will cost over #2Million to complete the job. That is what l wrote.
If your intention is to contest the amount, then go and find out how much they sell a length of 0.55 gauge Aluminum Steptile Roofing sheet and multiply by how many will cover the area, (add accessories like Nails, Flyband, rent Ladder, etc to it and include workmanship).
Add the cost of damaged, suspended Ceilings to it (areas where the Water leaked unto the suspended Ceilings and they buckled, after getting soaked)

But l am sure you would have learned some lessons from that job, which is the crucial thing.

- Like not having too many people on the Roof, at the same time. Just the minimum required.
At that time you were doing my Installation, you had yourself and four other guys on my Roof a few times though most times, you were on the ground.! It was as if my Roof was being used as a 'teaching experiment'.
As you guys were working and walking around on the Roof, l could hear the sound of "Crushing of the Roofing Sheet", with each Step taken, as they were walking on it!
I am sure you remember how l was raising the Alarm that you guys will damage this Roof? The Crushing sound was so evident from inside the House! You kept assuring me nothing will happen and l believed you, against my instincts.
I want to believe such wont happen in the future, when you install for others.
Experienced Installers should know how to delicately walk on the Roof without Squashing the Aluminum Steptile Roofing Sheet, those things are kind of fragile.

Like l said, another installer (just Three people, only Two were on the Roof, One was Down) recently installed additional Five Panels (655W each) earlier this year, all the area he worked on, not a single leak and the rain has been brutal this year, so it is not about the material or style of Roof, it is just "inexperienced" Workmanship.

Remember you told me l have to buy another Inverter, if l were to add those New, Five Panels?
Well, we did not have to buy any other Inverter, the New Installer l engaged just re-arranged the whole configuration and it is pumping out Power mercilessly..
We are completely off-grid in the last four Months-plus and Electric Cooker, Washing Machine, Submersible Pumps, Freezers and all other Home appliances are under normal use, though we do stagger and Submersible Pump not to run around 2pm only.
Why did l mention this? It appears there is a "knowledge gap", when you told me l cant add those New Panels to the existing ones, unless l buy a Second Inverter (which l would have done, if you came that day as l had called Gennextechnologies office immediately).
You said you needed to run them New Panels separately on a separate Inverter, for them to work.
As God will have it, l did not have to buy another Inverter.

My aim, in not mentioning the identity of the Installer (which drew the ire of some people here), is to mention the problem so the installer or anyone in such position, can learn from such mistakes, without damaging the image or brand of such offending Installer. I have No Apology for that decision, that is who l am

I never raised the issue here, until l was "wowed" by the Installation of that many panels by @Chris and even at that, l still kept your identity PRIVATE, with someone abusing me over it!. Having worked for me and our discussions about 'Unilag', you obviously knew, as an elderly person, exercising control over one's anger, even when l feel offended, is not unusual, would l ask you to come and replace the Roof that was damaged? (I remember explaining the issue of "vicarious liability" to you, on phone)
Being Vindictive, is not one of my attributes moreover, l passed those stages, a long time ago, l dont know who my own grown-up children will meet, in far flung places.

I hope this brings Closure to the whole matter, now that the Installer has identified himself.

samnaija:
You have very good points, why bring about a scenero when you can't or won't give out the name of the installer.
This is an open forum a lot of make decisions about solar from here.
The only problem I have is your outburst to insult an individual No! That is wrong. Keep things clean no need to insult anyone here.

This thread has helped a lot of people to usher them into solar.
Marketers have been burnt alive with terrible reviews and alot of people within this thread agreed and this in a way has saved alot of people from dodge marketers.
So if we have an installer amongst us that damaged a roof running into millions, and is nameless dont bring it here please.
The reason I am speaking on this I had a similar personal experience with an installer , not from nairaland that damaged my roof. After he installed my first set of panels come an see buckets of rainwater I fetch from within my house . They guy virtual punched holes every where and pressed life out of my aluminum roof and the ridges.
Changed the installer (non nairaland) during an
Upgrade, and I was personally involved in everything making sure they don't dent or depress my roof. Roof leakeage is a thing that should be discussed more on the thread to help newbies avoid the disaster ...

I think you meant well, so l will respond to your Post.

There is a reason they write "Caveat Emptor" (Buyers Beware) on a Wall, but dont attach anybody's name to it. We might ask: Why dont they name the Person they think wants to sell the House? Why make a "general Notice without naming anyone (This might not be a perfect example though)
But it still works because it puts everyone on "General Notice/Awareness".
It is now left for an intended Buyer to do more due diligence, to find out the rightful owner and verify any claim that is made..

It may appear contradictory to some that l mentioned the issue, (though it was just an "aside-remarks" in relation to the beautiful Installation done by @Chris ), but l did not mention the Name of the Installer, it has reasons.

Most People think the whole idea behind making a REVIEW, is to DESTROY a Business or a Product, the inherent reason of making a Review, in my own understanding, is to make the Seller/Producer/Product BETTER.
How you achieve this is to let the Seller/Producer/Product Owner know that "there is a possibility for damage to his/her Brand, if he/she does not IMPROVE their 'Game'.

I am too matured to want to destroy the Business of a younger person, despite the damage it caused me but l want him to know, openly here that it wont be "Business as usual" and he has to either IMPROVE or STOP Installing Panels.
Just that, l have achieved my own set objective.

But from your Statement, you asked: How will that Help others not to fall Victim?
Good Question!
Three ways:
1) The Installer in Question is reading this and he knows that he is just a Click-away from being Unmasked!
If you were him, will you repeat the same awful job or you will step up your game and start doing good jobs? My own conclusion is that he will IMPROVE, which is my desire, not to damage his Brand or Business beyond repair.
That is left for very Vindictive people like the rude, uncouth boy running his mouth all over the place. Always trying to damage others, he tried to damage @Valto at a point. He tried to rundown @Niyi's Installation at a point, insulting both of them.

2) Any genuine Client who wants to engage an Installer, has the liberty to contact me and ask PRIVATELY, that l let him know if the Person he wants to engage, is the Installer who damaged my Roof. That way, l do not damage the Brand of the 'wayward' installer but l could alert the Client on another Installer or ask him to supervise this my installer properly.
That way, any Client will still have achieved the same Objective they want to achieve, if the Installer was named.

3) A Client, having read the "Buyers Beware" Post l made earlier, has the duty to ask any Installer he wants to engage, to PROVIDE "REFERENCE" from owners of former Jobs done i.e. give me the Phone number of one or Two Clients you've Installed for, let me speak with them.
The advantage in this, is two fold:
(a) He wont be able to do so, if he has damaged his reputation or did a bad job.
(b) He probably would, if he values his Brand, ensure that he does not leave "a bad taste in the Mouth" of other Customers and this is where the "desired improvement" on the part of the installer, comes in.

The Installer that did my Job is reading this, he knows he did wrong but l wont Name him just "so l can damage him", ....... because l am not just that type of Person.
My aim is not to "destroy" but "to build", to make others better, to improve others, to be constructive in my criticism and l am doing it as l deemed it most fit.

I wont let any manner-less, untrained runt from the gutter goad me into doing what l believe is "not the best" of actions.
I am past that stage in Life!
It is left for anyone who thinks the post is useful to him, to read it, otherwise he can skip it
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Go through the posts of this @truthbetold22 guy and you would see that he has INSULTED almost everybody on this thread, (from page 679 - 681 are all his Insults on members), from Mctfopt, Ceasser, Valto, Niyi, bigrovar, solasola, durodee, Barezzi, etc and same thing on other threads.
Everyone who does not do things his way, is Stupid, is an Idiot, is a Fool, bla, bla, bla!
His default position is to use foul language on others and it is a reflection of his Upbringing.

Go through his Post, it is jus about abusing People, no sense, no value, no contribution but all Insults.
You cant give what you dont have. Its like putting a Pig, in a China Shop! A Child raised in the Gutter, even if you put him on a well-laid Bed, he will roll around, fall down and roll into the Gutter where he belongs.

This is a faceless forum but a few People here have had "contact with me offline", including the Installer who did my Roof and they would testify that l am not the kind of person that empty empty brain expect me to be.

truthbetold22:
Shut up sir. If you could give a review about a bad job, then you should mention the name. If you choose not to mention the name of the installer, then it means you are either a coward or nothing of such ever happened and you are just trying to hype or promote an installers job.

Nonetheless, you have not helped anyone with your useless, half-complete review. It is you who has comprehension problems because if you realize that this is a public forum, you would not make baseless accusations without clearly identifying who you are referring to.

COWARD!!

I am not sure you have a father at home otherwise you wont be insulting me or maybe you are used to telling him to shut-up?
This is what bad upbringing causes, your issues are obviously deeper than l thought!

I dont owe your type, any explanation.
You can rant all day, l wont even dignify your type with a conversation.
Just booze-off my mentions and go see a shrink-head.

IYGEAL:
Another installer on this thread, @Olopan, installed 9 units of big 405w panels for me.

No damages, no leakages.

That is how it should be,
"Welldone" @Olopan.
I have been paying attention to him for some time now and he comes across as a very focused and meticulous person.
More grease to his elbow.

truthbetold22:
So you can name the installer who did a good job but you prefer that Nairalanders fall prey to the installer who ruined your roof so we can incur the same damages of 2 million like you?

There is a reason why people give reviews. If you cannot name the installer who did a bad job, then keep shut. This has happened one too many times on this thread. What are you protecting?

Nigerians are hypocrites.

I wont respond to your Rudeness and Uncouth Childishness.
Obviously, you have a huge comprehension problem because No where in my Post, did l mention the Name of who did a Good Job, nor who did a bad Job.

chris81964:
Half the panels are up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gnifFk5yf4

Waoh!
Nice, Professional job you have done up there! I envy this install, just looking at it right now.

Unlike what an Installer on this thread, did to my Roof when l asked that he install just Ten Units of Panels on my Roof.
This installer and his Team so damaged my Roof that at the end of the day, l am considering buying NEW Aluminum Steptiles Roofing Sheet to cover the whole area those Panels were installed.

My Roof has never leaked since about Six years l built this particular Storey building, l live in this one so l know it has never experience a leakage but after the installation, it has been multiple leakages here and there.
The Team of Installers just use their feet to crush the Aluminium Roofing Sheets, causing big depressions everywhere.
I have had Roofers try to plug the leakages created but getting the Depressions to "push back up and normalize" is a daunting task, as the damage was just too extensive.
I have concluded l have to replace all those areas where the Panels are located, and their surrounding Sheets as well.
Imagine incurring a damage of over #2M, in the course of a job of less than #100,000?

It is a lesson to me, to always check the previous work of an installer, seek reference from previous Clients, before giving out a job
Hobbyist or Sellers should stop claiming to be Professional Installers.

BTW: I have since added Five more Panels (655W each), to the other Side of the Building's Roof, done by another Installer and without any issue from that side.

justcallmenuel:
200w solar street light available, #20,000. Call/WhatsApp me on 08168986461

What is the Luminous Intensity (in Lumens) of this Street Light, l am interested in buying?
Can you provide the spec sheet here for me, pls

GeorgeD1:
it's not only about the sweetness bro. canadian solar has proven its named over time and many
savvy hobbyists and installers have come to rely on it for quality. in yesteryears jinko was not really known
for great quality but i guess over time they might have upped their game - as most oems have done in recent
time. as for internet product comparisons, i would take such writeups with a pinch of salt because anybody
write can anything and cook up figures to promote an agenda.

He must be referring to the "Alaba-Made type" of Canadian Solar, l guess perhaps

I am an End User, l a not selling anything, not Panels, not Inverters, so l dont need to pad-up any information here because l have no benefit from hyping a second rate Solar Panel, unlike those who do so, because that is what they have in store to sell.

Only a few sellers here, can anyone take their word or product recommendation seriously, majority will tell you that what they have in Stock is the best, even when they know that is not true! We know them by their past antecedents.

Original Canadian Solar Panels are still the best in the market.
There is a reason why Companies with Tradition, try to protect their Named Product and even go to court to protect any copyright or registered name infringement, it is because they have put in a lot of Effort, Money, Research and Development, to get their products to the level it is and that is why our Alaba Sellers want to produce a Counterfeit Version of it.

GeorgeD1:
hello bro,
i started this journey into energy freedom over 10yrs ago primarily because i was frustrated with then epileptic
power situation in the country. i ran electricity generators for a while and kept asking myself "is there no better way
of providing power than this?" then, i started making some research and discovered there was actually a sustainable
alternative to what i was struggling to achieve: solar power.
so, long answer cut short: its about energy freedom (that feeling of being in control of your energy supply is something
out of this world also, being able to quietly harness the power of the sun on a bright sunny day while others are
lamenting and complaining about the heat could be hilarious to say the least
lastly, its about economics. believe it or not, its cheaper to go solar in the long run compared to running fuel guzzling
generators. i did a cost calculation years ago (when fuel was still 65 naira per liter) and realized that i was able to recover
everything i spent in setting up my solar system within 2yrs if i were to run my generator 3hrs everyday excluding oil
changes and regular maintenance.
with fuel now at 165 naira per liter and likelihood of increment of pump price in the near future, your guess is as good
as mine how long it would take to recoup my investment if i had set it up at this present time.
to cap it up, there's no better time to go off-grid than now. my solar set up keeps making more sense on a daily basis
when i hear of frequent national grid collapse and fuel scarcity with vehicle queues everywhere. the sun has never
collapsed as far back as modern man started keeping records and never have my solar modules run out of juice.
with solar, i tell you there's no scarcity!

You have put it, as best as no one could.
FREEDOM, ON-DEMAND, COST SAVINGS.
Solar is supposed to pay for itself over a long time, but with the high cost of energy (Gas, Electricity, Fuel) and the incessant grid collapse of our Country, Solar is paying for itself in even shorter time than was predicted (averagely 15yrs)

Is there anyone in the House who knows about conversion of Petrol Engine to Electric ?
My problem is how to convert my Petrol Car Engines to run on Electric (not looking to buy off the shelf Electric Vehicles).
Like we did for home use, l want to be able to use flexible (and even if not flexible) Solar Panels on the Roof of my car and let it harness juice when l park it in the Sun. I also want to be able to load the bot with LifePo4 cells, as much as l want.

I have heard snippets of people who convert Petrol Engines to use Gas or even turn it to EV but there is a serious knowledge gap on how to do it.
Na so e dey take start o, fertile minds on this thread should please roll it over in their minds.

And some people here are still recommending SMK Inverters to Newbies here?!
Well, those that have Ears, let them hear, what the Spirit is saying.

sethtsadopp:
Thanks for your response, I understand your point. But I have done some research online and from all I could gather, the Jinko Tiger Pro series is actually either at par or even slightly better in performance and quality as Canadian solar.

https://lightningsolar.com.au/canadian-vs-jinko-solar-panels/

This is one out of many review I saw doing comparisons. Jinko appears to have come a long way. I believe the Tiger Pro series has an efficiency of 21.4% which is great.

No worries, Your Money, Your Choice!
All the best Sir.

codeME:
thank you so much sir. Any other good options apart from LifePo4? Thanks.

At this moment, that is the best option l can recommend to another person and it is what l also use.
You can also read reviews of others on this thread, to help you make up your mind.

codeME:
please what is the best battery to use for inverters now. Thanks

LifePo4 Cells are my best suggestion for you.
there is a Man on this thread @Valto, who can couple genuine Cells for you.

solareclips:
Good day all, please i need a suggestion for reliable 5kva solar hybrid inverter to buy. thanks in anticipation.

Buy the guy below.

https://shop.gennextechnologies.com/product/gennex-axpert-king-5kva-off-grid-inverter/

I have used it and l can vouch that it is rugged, especially for the Price.
If you want to splash cash, the like of Phocos, Deye, etc are also good.

sethtsadopp:
Wow, the price is significantly higher than other Tier 1 like Jinko (138k vs 171k for 545w). What are the advantages of Canadian over Jinko Tiger Pro

I am not sure of how to respond to this, because l am not an expert on the subject but like you, l asked the same question when l wanted to begin my own RE journey. Let me recount, in details.

The explanation a trusted Senior Bros gave me was: if you are asked to go to a Car Dealership and pick any of two Vehicles on Sale, a Mercedes Benz or a Hyundai, which one will you pick?
I did not ley him finish before l responded: Benz-er!
He said why would l pick a Benz and not a Hyundai afteral, both of them can take me home or take me anywhere l want to go, both uses fuel and four Tires, he went on and on about their similarities.

I jumped-in and said well, Benz costs more than a Hyundai!
He countered again and said: Even that should not be so, afteral, they are both Cars and do the same thing: take occupants from Point A to B.

Being someone who had used a Mercedes Benz 230E V-Boot in the late 90's, l countered back by saying, try to negotiate a bend at very high speed and you will see how the Wheels of a Bens will not just turn (like all other cars do) but also bend sideways, to give you added stability by lowering its centre of gravity (while other Cars will likely summersault as a result), not to mention the internal comforts and German Engineering ruggedness! Motor that just refuse to stop working.

He then told me: The Canadian Solar is like your Mercedes Benz, while the Jinkos and Yinkos are the Hyundai of this world!.
Benz might be costlier but you get what you pay for!
He added: I work hard for money so l wont just throw it away, if there is no additional value to the extra cost.
He has been using his Canadian Solar ever since, long before l bought mine.
This story always remind me that "Cheaper" is not always Better but it will do, if availability of funds are a major issue".

shinealight:
On the contrary….Jagaban plus Ganduje equal Maximum votes from SW, NW, NE and NC in 2023. Watch out for it!!

Only ish people give maximum Votes to Rogues!
Your Children will one day ask you: How did you vote and elect these Rogues that destroyed our future?

AntonVince:
First thing that came to my mind too.
Tinubu + Gandollar...just imagine the sort of criminals being mulled for presidency? That's like pairing Anini and Shina Rambo.

O ma se o!

Nigeria is being run by thieves and Criminals, since the time of IBB.

Nigeria id bleeped.[/color]

yinkus6750:
Good decision.
Hope you maintain your stand till the end.
Everyone has equal right to the position.
Lawan miscalculated.

I agree with the guy, he should not stand down for Lawan.
How can someone get the confidence of the Voters, win an election and another person who did not take part in the election, try to claim it?
Even INEC must ban such nonsense, it is UNdemocratic.
No one should be imposed on the People.
Once people like Lawan get into one Office, they turn Politics to their Life Occupation, doing nothing else than fleecing Nigerians.

Well, one day, Nigerians will wake up and treat the Bleep-up of these Politicians,

RealTalkNoBull:
Yes Kobojunkie. How’ve you been? You should be like 200+yrs old now. Back in the mid 2000s when you were in love with Onlytruth you were aged like a prehistoric bat so I know you must be wrinkly like washed linen now.

Cheesux! Wrinkled Washed Linen worn by a Prehistoric Bat!
This is too much

Kobojunkie:
Look at this one.

What perverse mentality of the West are you talking of? Homosexuality has been a part of existence, even right there in your Nigeria before you very own ancestors were born, but in your delusion you conclude it is imported all so you can continue a bit longer in your delusion.

There is no devil to be flogged out except the one that keep you ignorant of your surroundings.

Cheesux!

Polaris1:
SOLAR WATER PUMP
Submersible brushless screw pump
Brand new.
DC 24 Volts, 370Watts
65m head,. 2m3/hour
Built-in charge controller
Works connected directly to solar panel (500-750 watts)
16 amps.
Location: Surulere, Lagos
Naira: 180k
Phone is in Signature

Please educate me more on this Solar Pump.
What are its advantages or how one can get the best out of it. How many Flats can this serve (on the average)?
I want to replace my Normal Pumping Machine, it is "hugging Power" on my Solar Battery Setup when it kicks in, at time in the night (its on a Flow Switch so it comes up whenever water is low)
Is there a 48V version? (My Solar Panels are 48V each)

GeorgeD1:
you can try gennex bro. those chaps are legit.
the canadian solar panels i bought from them are still spewing juice like brand new over 4yrs later.

I thought l was the only one who bought original Canadian Panels from them!
The way l recommend them on this thread, you will think they would be kind enough to Waybill one 625W to me unannounced.
Even their Axpert King Inverter is strong because it has suffered in my hand, nor be small and it is still working like Mad.

HeadofNairaland:
Assuming a new pv cost 100k for 400w with a lifespan of say 25 years. How much do u think will be d used one? If u were asked to pay 50k for a cracked one, will u buy?

Steal ni ooo
Yes ready for my Ak 49

Probably u will add ur own on top.
They are cracked bro.
Well, u have already told us d amount. So IT IS A NO STEAL sir

A lot of people have given the useful lifespan of the used one as two, three years.

From the post above, we can say that (100K / 25yrs) the panel costs 4k for every year of use.
Thus, assuming the maximum lifespan of a cracked one is Three years, then it should retail for 12K max.
if we further discount it for "performance drop", maybe it should sell for 10K each.

Now, that is a real "steal" or Armed Robbery Price.

Edit: it all depends on how much useful years the Buyer can still get from the product.
That is something no one can predict

mctfopt:
A neighbour once used one like that for two years. He still sold it and added money and bought a new one. I still wonder who bought it from him

One can be "Penny-Wise, Pound-Foolish" at times but when funds are not available, one may have No Choice.
When it is value for money, is another issue.
There are some things one should not buy as "used" (in my own opinion) but l can understand why some do sha,
God will provide.

Trippledots:
It's crazy bro. After contacting auxano as well, I went to jiji to search and was seeing auxano labelled panels with "made in Germany" written boldly. I shock.

But you can get Original Canadian Solar Panels from Genex technologies, who are their Main, Authorized Distributor in Nigeria.
In total, l have bought over Panels of about 10,000W from them and No issues at all.

I have placed links here, for their Canadian Solar Panels and Inverters (which l also use) so others can benefit but l am wary of the spambot sending me to jail.

https://shop.gennextechnologies.com/product-category/solar-panels/

They are in Lekki Area of Lagos.

Opistorincos:
Good day house, want to get Lithium battery build from Valto. I need vouches for him and his products.

I will vouch for his integrity!
I dont think anyone here has had issues that border on trust/integrity with him but it does not stop you from doing your own due-diligence.

@Valto, No fall hand o.

Godliftedme:
Good day,
Does any of the supplier has this 350W panel in stock? How much is it, where is this available (Lagos preferred)

The same Company l mentioned above, (Gennex technologies, Lekki, Lagos), sold my Panels to me and they were ORIGINAL Canadian Solar, not the 'Put Sticker' types you get in that market over there.

Browse their website and see if you see what you like there. I saw a 375W Canadian Solar on their website,

https://shop.gennextechnologies.com/product-category/solar-panels/


Caveat: I am a DIY User, not an Installer/Supplier

olorunthobby:
PLEASE WHERE CAN ONE LEARN SOLAR TECHNOLOGY IN LAGOS?

There is this company where l bought my Solar Panels and Inverter, they offer training.
Give them a Ring and see if you can work things out.

Gennex Technologies in Lekki

https://academy.gennextechnologies.com/

gadgetplanetng:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37Yw9oWTY2I

Valto recommended their product a few weeks back

Watched the Auxano/BOI Video.
I must say l am thrilled that we have started from 'somewhere', guys lik that need all the encouragement they can get, to go "Automated".

Having said that, l must also point out that there is a difference between Assembling Solar Panels and Manufacturing Solar Panels.
What l see in that Video is a Company into "Assembling Solar Panels".
I did not see anywhere they Manufactured the Solar Cells, which is the backbone of a Solar Panel, they imported the Cells and then began to put them together.

But it is a good start, Rome was not built in a day.
With a good enabling environment, Govt can use its Diplomatic leverage to "buy Technology" from the Chinese/Russian/Asian Govts in a BOT arrangement, for our Entrepreneurs.

The Europeans and Americans wont sell such technology to us, they prefer we are always in a begging position, so they can continue to arm-twist us into submission.

exCHRISTIAN:
[s]Why didn't the imaginery christ protect the lady

Is he absent? Or doesn't exist? Or cant fulfill His promise to protect his followers? Or is the bbbile lyi*g as it used to do?
Thessalonians 3:3

I left Xtianity because I realized it's rubbish.
What do yo expect from a god that was born by a WOMAN and ended, murdered on Cross? Didn't help himself also


The entitled punishment for blasphemy in Xtianity as I was forced study by my parents back then is death !!!

anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord is to be put to death. The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death.
Leviticus 24:16

Deborah killers used this verse to kill her the way the verse instruct, I think they own a copy of christ papers, bible is full of evil to its followers.

I left religion for you!!! Ath3ism all the way

Before any rotten brain qoute me, see my signature....[/s].

You really, really deserve pity!

abilityC:
No doubt our economy is not very productive, and its like our political rulers enjoy seeing the masses poor and poorer... and poverty has a vicious circle/cycle that has to be broken by productivity and serious determination, the more people earn the more they can afford services and goods offered in an economy but the bad belle people no want am like that!

I was making inquiries about setting up solar panel plant in Nigeria and the cheapest option i got from a firm was 100k USD but not a complete manufacturing plant just to assemble the panels which was quite discouraging for me, as i wanted a plant that makes the raw panels from scratch... I see India also trying to step up in Solar Panel production, we need to do better...

That was a good effort and l commend you for trying.
I am also sure that it is a good thing, if five honest people can pull resources together, to establish such effort.
$100,000 is not really much, if we can get the technology and input Materials together.
I will be up for such Project, if the opportunity arise.

We also have to contend with a bad Govt that likes to kill Business of individuals, current Business Climate is horrible.

gadgetplanetng:
There are made in Nigeria panels

Good to hear, though l have my doubts about the authenticity of that information, without any link/Reference to the manufacturer to back it up.

If that is the case, what is then responsible for the high Cost of Panels right now?
Excessive Profiteering?
High Input Costs? (Especially Power!)