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nwuyag: When members of the same denomination dont agree with themselves, denominations dont agree with each other, christians in general (eg nairaland christians) also dont agree with themselves, christians dont agree with moslems. There are over 10000 diferent denominations which each denomination could have 100 different interpretations of their views of the bible. So what is the probabilty of a non theist agreeing with a sect/ a persons's idea of christianity amongst all sects and religions?
#just saying.

lol....number 4 condition as said in the OP. One church meaning there is God or different denomination meaning there is no God.

Oduduwaboy: Religion!!!....why does man ever have to defend God? If God is up there why can't He just lovingly reveal himself to us his little ignorant children at least once in every generation of about 80 years?

@ Op ....your points are valid and i also seek same answers as you . I spent many years in the church and never once saw a miracle though the bible promised us many. Please, i was devoted to 'God ' and sincere in heart .

Please, posters should be honest, truthful and sincere in there responses . Apart from your imaginary faith , is there any other evidence you can use to convince someone born into an areligious household to believe in a God?

imaginary hope and taking over of grievance and pains......this is psychological warfare.

Elantracey: lol first of all how ws ur day

have been reading the story of ancient Owu kingdom fall. It a damn tragedy

frank3.16:
where did u meet Jesus and how did he look like. u must answer this questionoooo

Unfortunately, he is nowhere to be found with the answer.

manutdadex: the reason u didnt c him or d reason he didnt ansa dat ur problem was because u neva belived him...and there are problems one face in life dat changes d way we think or even reason, urs is gettin beyond u need a therapist! Especially Jesus

I dont have business with Jesus but if you want to drag him here....so be it. Where are we meeting Jesus?

Elantracey: u will meet ma conditions

lol....the decision and condition of every person in a boat must sit together so that they roll the boat down the shore.

Speak your mind Jewel....I will agree when you ready to row with me

Deha: @FOLYKAZE,type "October17,1913" in google and click search.......

what is am searching for? I did but cant get anything related to the thread there

Divepen: Mr.Folykaze....
You have just told me what they told us but you did not tell me answer my question

The answer is there....look beyond what you see.

Remove the dust in your eye before removing that of others. What you wrote is an open insult to christianity. And it reveal you are ignorant about it while trying to insult other people's belief. Christianity is a reformed paganism........from the stone you throw.

Dlyna: does it mean christianity is just for tithe, offerings and taking advantage of people's plight with promise of someting better by faith?

surely, it should be more than that.

sorry ms, there is nothing more than the bold.

They are eating the brains of christians.....they are not meant to lean to their understanding.

Deha: Well,i would say That You Purely dont Undastand The Scripture You quote,or You probably dont want to undastand it or You are A Fool!!
That passage has been fulfilled a very longtime ago,and is still being Fulfilled till Today!!
Which nation in this World does not Know Who God is?
Has it yet occurred to you that God's word{The Bible} is the Most circulated book of all time?
What manifestations do u seek? You want God to come and give u a handshake,and take u to heaven on a Chariot of fire abi? Guy,ur problem is Personal!!

Stop telling I do not understand a verse because it doesn't fall into your juicy feeble mind. Tell me what about the verse I dont understand and your views about it.

As per the bold, pls go and read the OP again. My conditions

manutdadex: this guy is hurting deep inside! Guys read btw d lines of his posts....mayb u ve lost a dear one long ago or even a faulty family background or a bad child hood....i ve met Jesus, he has touched me, i av felt him, i av seen him, i av experience his spirit in me..if u want to experience all dis,there are conditions too....

Life without ups and down isn't a good one. We need to balance the pole.

Where do you meet Jesus? What was he like? Tell us pls

Elantracey: hmmmmm yes but first .....

cutie what?

Deha: Prov23:12 "Apply your mind to instruction and your ear to the words of Knowledge"..
Prov24:10 "If you faint in the day of adversity,your strenght is small"..
Prov25:2 "it is the Glory of God to conceal Things........."
Prov27:22 "crush a fool in a Mortar with Pestle along with a crushed grain,yet his folly will not depart from him"..
Bro,read Proverbs 2,it will aid u a lot...Here is an intro:
Proverbs2:
v1:My son,if you recieve my words and treasure up my commandments with you,
v2:making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding;
v3:Yes,if u cry out for insight and raise your voice for understanding,
v4:if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures;
v5:then you will understand the fear of the Lord and Find the Knowledge of God"................Read on!
..
Coming to a forum to keep shouting out about childish follies of conditions that must be met b4 u reconvert is a Mere kiddies show!!
Prov3:1-2 "My son,do not forget my teaching,but let your heart keep my commandments; 2} for lenght of days and years of life and abundant welfare will they give you"....
You seem to be the type that believe in God when the going is gud,but when the going becums tough,You start looking 4 who to give the blame....
Ecclesiastes11:5 "As You do not know how the spirit comes to the bones in the womb of a woman with child,so you do not know the work of God who makes everything."

I would have ignore you but you might take it as pride. How does the above rant answer this? Ezekiel 38:23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.'

I am not here for bible debate bro. If it to argue on bible by quoting it, am good there but this thread isn't for that. The above verse explained everything in my OP. The conditions I put there were promised by God in Ezekiel. Why are we not seeing this today? Secondly I didn't say am interested in knowing everything about your God. I want to see him and his manifestations. Just tell me your God doesn't have potential for this.

Maybe or not the Ezekiel verse I quote is false or God was lying......by then I can accept you guys are completely brainless and deluded. Deal with that verse buddy and lets roll

Divepen: Instead of u debating what idol is.... we have dictionary and wikipedia why bother asking 'mumu' questions for debate....
Come on, open a thread that will preach the following.

Finally you display your ignorance publicly and that you dont even know the surface the OP is standing.

1.What i can gain if i serve your god

Yep they have told you about juicy heaven where you wont suffer. Why cant you go there by dying?

2.Wat i will lose if i did not serve your god

you were feed with hell threat. We know that.

3. What has your god has in plan for my future.

Your God haven't made it perfect? Why amendment and another plan for future?

4. Where does this god say i will go after my death and why

Dust, heaven and hell.....the lies you were feed with.

5.If there is no place why will i serve him

Because he is hungry for your worship....failure to feed him through worship will lead you to hellfire.

6. Can he die for me.

Your God die? Gaddem so why spreading a dead god gospel?

7. Can he forgive me without pouring oil on it.

Can you be bless without paying tithe? Who is going to forgive your God for the atrocities he caused?

8. Why i must make a representation of your god in my house

Jesus status, jesus cross in necklace and the calender in your room is what? Why do you put your bible under your pillow.....why do you face/hold bible while praying?

9. Why i must agree to sacrifice human to this gods

The same reason Jesus was slaughtered like animal. And a soldier of God sacrifice his daughter as burnt offering to God.

10. Why it is only your god we can kill human for to get money..

completely brainwashed. Why is that your religious leader engaged in crusade for power, money and fame? Why is your pastor making money out of people ignorance?


All you dropped is still in the box of christianity. Ignorance is bad but been proud of it is stupidity.

Lets see how you move ahead.

Tgirl4real: @ Folykaze,

U never tire?

I want God but you've kicked my azz. No vex.

I will take my hood lead by my head.

rationalmind: and just how do you know that?

christianity motto is switch your brain for heart: thinking with heart while brain is dormant

Deha: I seriously doubt Who were worshipping...

so there are different God in church? Good.

What do You mean by "I Asked for His knowledge and seek Through Manifestation?"

It a reply to your quest.

Tgirl4real: U were a Pharisee. U believed with ur head and not with ur heart.

My heart is meant for pumping blood and not for thinking.

Whats essential is baptism and accepting of Christ

voltron: too late for that.. Christianity is now a mature institution with deep roots as the tree of life.. it cannot be uprooted anymore..

Rooted in paganism?

engrtee: Every sector in nigeria is failed

christianity globally is failure

engrtee: I hereby move a motion for the ban of op

for telling the truth? Butthurt.....

Deha: Reading it 100times doesnt mean u understood them at 100times!!
If at all u have read those and understood them,there are certain things you wont be publicly showing ignorance of..

what is your point, what is that thing am displaying ignorantly? Provide them or shut up and deal with my terms

Deha: How do you know someone is born again?
How did u seek God 4 18 good years?

Accepting Jesus as personal lord and saviour, praying, baptism, evangelism and faithful.

I asked for his knowledge and seek through his manifestation. Oops I was failed.

Can you now seal my conditions?

rationalmind: Hahahaha. No wonder none of them is replying. I guess their answer will just be, we were told not to use our brains

If religious people can apply reason into their faith, there wont be any religious people

Deha: Ask him How he did that?

I did it as every devouted born-again christian do it

Deha: You dont undastand the Bible u read and quote,thats why..
Your business is with God,and u dont want to go through the Only Way to Him?
Dont be a Thomas who doubted his other friends{disciples} about the resurection of Jesus....You can imagine someone who has been with Jesus Christ still doubts Him...What more of u,who came 2000yrs later!!
Keep looking for signs!!

Here is a good answer for you:

rationalmind: Didn't you read his previous posts? He said he has gone through the only way to him for 18 solid years.

Adding, Thomas didn't doubt for 18years but 1day despite, he got the sign he requested for. Why is mine different?

Deha: I believe u are in self-inflicted deciet here!!
Read The Books of Proverb and Ecclesiastes in the Bible...

I read that more than 100 times. What is your point?

Elantracey: mornin dear ..ah didnt say she calls u lyk dat ah just said in her voice

You on my angel list. Hope you will give me some feather so that we fly together as family?

ghostofsparta: It's glad to know you are at least trying to present our belief system in a way it will be comprehensible to someone unfamiliar or confused about IFA and the Orishas. However, you are unknowingly complicating and painting it with many bull's eye that scientists, humanists and skeptics would hit and dismiss over some of the interpretations you provided.

IFA as a subject is something not even Einstein or Kant can analyse or derive a particular doctrine from. Ifa is extremely wide and intricated that it would take someone or group of intellectual with high degree of scholarship in various subjects to truly interpret and decipher some aspect of it. I know what I'm saying because I'm attempting it too, and even without plunging into it yet with its practitioners, I can tell you enough to understand what it is actually meant by ori, difference between orisha and Irunmole since a lot tend to confuse them with each other. There are many things you are incorrect about. But you have my support in trying to enlighten others.

Ya, since the day I got hint from the Ifa priest in my hood, I have been interested in it. I have watched divinations and observed there accuracy. The poetic Odu is amazing too. I understand fully that Ifa is infinite which we with finite brain can not fully decipher. Even I observed babalawo helping each other cuz it more like they have grades and understanding more than each others.

The priest here told me it something person learn till the last breathe so I understand where you driving at. Despite we can still explain one or two things in a simple form from Ifa. Have tried to study from this man through observing but it seem he is holding the basis as secret to himself. I know Odu on Opele but cant explain it or give it meaning. The man said I should be initiated for full understanding....though this can be possible only if I move out of my parents circle.

I will appreciate it if you will fill some wholes in my OP. Or would wait to read your book so as to have more knowledge and do corrections to my misconception. Thanks

Elantracey: FOLYKAZE! FOLYKAZE!' FOLYKAZE!!! *in ur mum's voice*

Hey angel! Morning

my mum cant call me that name

Christianity is a false tag. Paulianity is the best tag cuz all the doctrines in the church are contradictory to that of Jesus and based on paul teaching.