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mazaje: People eating iron and metal is NOT a new things, its very common, read up what purist and Jayriginal have posted about it. . .As for the goat been killed, it isn't a big deal. . .They can load real bullets when they want to test it on the goat and use blanks when they want to test it on themselves. . .There is no difference between a real bullet and some blank bullets they have the same look . . .I take up your challenge. . .drop your email address, when I come to Nigeria at the end of the month we will do that experiment. . .I will drop the 10,000 euros if it works and am NOT kidding. . .

Im not arguing that what purist and Jayriginal posted on people eating bottle and Iron is a joke, I have watched stuff like that on tv and youtube. I even have a dvd containing records of men doing great things on guiness record.

But this of gun, im 100% sure. You can email me on folykaze@yahoo.com

mazaje1: Here is the thing. . .The GREATEST magicians on earth that to magnificent and incredible magical feats like Darren Brown, David Copperfiled, Jame Randi are all atheist, Chris Angle is the only one among them that is a theist, all of them including Chris Angle have said that no body has any supernatural power, James Randi has dropped 1 million dollars to any body that can demonstrate his supernatural powers, many people have come forward and all have been exposed. . .The tricks they used have been exposed. . .As for the bullet prove juju stuff it is simply a LIE. . .If you are shot at and the bullet hits you it must penetrate, no body can chest a bullet. . .Most of the OPC people you see around demonstrating their pullet proof juju mostly use blanks, the gun will fire and make the normal sound, but most use blkank bullets to beguile the public. . .When it comes to crisis, most of the people use locally made guns that have no precision at all. . .The bullets are mostly small round balls of iron that people always survive...They are not so fatal. . .I dare any one in the world to come forward and chest my AK47 bullet and win 10,000 euros. . .After which I will convert to what ever religion the person belongs to and he also has chance to shot me back as a punishment for my unbelief. . .I am NOT kidding. . .

I will post some video of James Randi here for you to see, even the white people are superstitious, biut one thing with them is they always come forward to put their alleged "powers" to test and all of them that have come forward have failed. . .

Nobody is talking about surviving a Hit or not. What I am saying is penetration. Get your gun and make the arrangement. These are the option that will happen on the day, it either your gun burst and you get hit, or your gun stop working as you point it to your target or your miss target continuously (the bullet fly to another direction) or it hit the target and wont penetrate. If you doubt this, get your pals, camera and gun. You can make the show happens.

jayriginal: Seeing means you "saw". It does not necessarily mean its real. Think about this.

Now think of a mirage. From far you see water but is it really water you see? Is there really water?
Seeing a mirage from far, you could swear that there was water even without investigation but would it be so?

Similarly, when you think you see something seemingly unnatural, you shouldnt be in such a hurry to call it supernatural.

So no, seeing is not believing.

I have seen inexplicable things as well but I do not call them supernatural.

Seeing and verification does this. A goat was killed with a double barrel in my presence and the same gun was pointed to a man which only burned his cloth and his skin was not touched. I moved closer to check, put my hand on this guy chest and sees that he was not wounded. I repeat, if you think this im saying is a lie, this guy will be forwarded to you any place in south west. Aint joking man

mazaje1: if you have any body that can be shot at without the bullet penetarting you can also bring the person forward . . .It is time for all claims to be tested. . .You will win 10,000 euros as well. . . .Keep up or shut up. . .No time for storie or them say them say . . .Lets put it to test, end of stories. . .No long talk. . .

I dont need your money. But this, Im very sure of. Make your arrangement to meet the skinned bullet proof guy anywhere in south-west. Get a camera and any witness you want. This im very sure of

musKeeto: up bolaino and fola

my big man, im also a free-thinker like you. I dont do religion or believe in god. But this im saying is capital sure for me. It not hard to gather this guy within 1 hour as for me. If you are capable and doubt this, make arrangement in any place in the south west, you go shoot tire

jayriginal: There you have it.

Ive seen people eat bottles on tv. How about the French man who would eat bicycles, plates, cutlery. Heck he even ate a plane. Was that juju ? No. Look up Michel Lotito

There are people who can catch bullets with their teeth. Now if you dont know any better, you would say its jazz.

Look there is money to be won if you can prove this. One million dollars. We can all share it on this thread

I have watched people eating Iron in on Gunniess record. But this im saying about gun is very sure. I witnessed it seeing guys shouting themselves so as to test this voodoo. Mazaje might say that the gun used is empty bullet gun which just make loud sound. But this same gun was used to kill a goat. The goat was torn into pieces. Im not arguing that it supernatural. Only that I cant explain how this thing work. Like we have the bullet proof vest, this can be seem to be supernatural if not fully understand when compared to those hell weight bullet proof jacket used by our policemen. I dont care about your or anybody's money. If you want prove about this, come straight down to Ondo. Or make any arrangement where we can meet in south west, and you shoot which ever gun you come with. The option you going to have is either the gun wont penetrate the skin, or the gun will stop working when you point it to your target (whenever you turn it to something else, it will work fine again), or the gun burst and hit you from the back. I dare you this

Something serious is happening here. I dont know if the illustrations bolaino ascribed as supernatural are true or not. He might truely have seen this things happening but the mistake he made here is that he is combing is ignorance into supernatures. Personally I saw a crucifix in a bottle and I questioned about it from my dad. He explained in details process this thing was made. If I had not known or got the idea, I will also be saying here that they are supernaturals. Also from what Ijawkid says about bullet proof juju, I will gladly says that I have witnessed something of such in 2009. I saw guys shooting themselves, testing their voodoo individually. Im not saying this is a gun fight or crisis. It happened among OPC guys. They did this openly in the centre of Ondo town. And also I got friends among them which was tested in my presence. Well as for me, I dont believe in this as supernatural. Only that I dont understand how it works with those guys. I have seen situation like man carrying 'magun', man eating bottle, man disappearing and knock down in fight charm. When arguing with my friends who have this things, Im always pressed down cause I dont know how to explain them. Lot of activities like Bullet proof juju, fireman, water in a basket, light weight object which cant be lift and lot more. These are very common on Ogun festive day in Ondo town. I dont know if the people doing those stuff are tricksters or magicians. But the problem I have is that I cant explain those stuff. And also on bullet proof stuff, I can assure most Atheist here that it works fine. It either your gun develop fault immediately, or it burst from the back and you get hit, or the bullet fly away missing the target, or it drop weak before the target. I got a old bro doing this stuff. And he have tested it on many occasion working fine. Though I have not seen him trying it with AK47. He use local guns and double barrel which was used to kill a goat in the process of testing the gun and other way wrong didn't work on him. I dont know if people here can explain this but I have witnessed and very sure it works.

God cant print money on his own huh? He is not omnipotent

I smell Taqiyya: Islamic doctrine of deceit to defend and promote Islam...

ooman: @bold - I didn't bother correcting you in that thread because what I wrote was obvious enough, how you misconstrued it still beats me.
Anyway, am African, Nigerian and whatever.

@fallacies

1. It is very wrong to use human language and computer language systems to define "information" in nature because human language cannot replicate itself, nature does.

2. If every information must be passed down, who passed down god??

3. This same information scientists have discovered that meaningful patterns can arise spontaneously in nature which can be deciphered into meanings understandable to humans. Therefore, confirming that DNA can start as a simple pattern, which it did, since evolution means progression.

4. If something material cannot create something immaterial (destroying evolution according to you) then something immaterial cannot also create material (destroying god concept). Since both logic destroys one another, we are left with nothing. So from your logic, nothing should exist, but nature exists. So which is true? Materialism (evolution) or immaterialism (creation).
To answer this we look into nature and what we observe is that there is actually nothing immaterial in nature.

Lemme start by using your analigy of software - Software (immaterial eg god, spirits etc) can only make softwares. Softwares CANNOT make hardwares, destroying creation of material world by spirits, god etc

BUT

Hardwares (material - mass and energy so evolution) eg processors, ic, etc are used to make softwares (immaterial information) and so DNA can evolve from mass and energy and it in fact did

Therefore, creation was wrong and evolution is true.

This also do suggest that an immaterial god, spirit CANNOT exist since software cannot exist without an hardware. So, if there is any single chance that god exist at all, he has to be made of material stuff or he does not exist.

So information can and do come from materials

Thoughts are only delusions of brain network which can be terminated when the brain networks are obstructed. In other words, you can only think intelligently when your brain functions right.

So, since thoughts are delusions and so is everything that exist within its vicinity - gods, spirits, miracles etc are all delusions too.

All this inferred from your logic. I will stop here for now.

#KOO

God of the bible gave birth to God of the quran which He and Mohamed produced terror-humans.

ayenny02: You are pointless, if your lecturer ask u a question in classroom on particular topic, will u tell him d answer is in d library. Where is proof from Quran or Bible? Or if u read it from library bring out those their verses of chapter.

which place did you loose from? Did I claim to be Goshen or Catholic? Are those words mine? I quote them bro. You are sounding ........ Dont make me use words on you. If you want to know, browse through Goshen's post or meet some catholic members. Ok?

ayenny02: Don't fabricate what u don't know, Man. Bring ur proof to support ur stand

Which state are you from? Visit any state libray and access more information through the internet. I dont need to school you. Ok?

Goshen : Mary was a virgin, gave birth to Jesus without having sex and no knowledge of artificial insemination.

Catholic : Mary is a virgin forever with additional five kids

Obadiah : Joseph is the father of Jesus. The Jewish man f*ucked Mary

we learnt that the fact is, Joseph, Mary and Jesus didn't exist. They are all like talking tortoise in the yoruba mythology

Mohamed is Illiterate. Allah is also Illiterate too

kwangi: Dude, since you already had in mind what you wanted to hear, you shouldn't have have come here in the first place!
You could've just sit yourself down somewhere you feel comfortable and tell yourself what you want to hear.
Or are you hunting for someone to argue with or insult? ...or an avenue to tell people how you are a better human being than them because of your atheist leaning.
Suit yourself. But I'll let you know this thread was a waste of people's precious time because you misstated your mission here.

You are waste of my time man. Is religion section only for christians? Stop been silly

Addition

Yahweh is a lovely and peaceful god.

Thanks to Obadiah, he showed us that this monster is a war lord, full of beef and hatred

#ramen

Christians should go and Google "The PISO family". They wrote the new testament. The old testament was just Hebrews (NOT JEWS=Khazarians ­=Ashkenazis) writing about their life experiences.

The whole Christian mode of worship was based on Ancient Egyptian Book of the dead and the teachings of Pharaoh Amun Ra. That is why all religions end with Amen, Amin, Amina etc meaning "May it be done!" even the original 10 commandments changed 3 times.
Google "the real 10 commandments". Did God change his mind or did Moses embellish the truth?
The first commandments were simple. The Book of the Dead that was used by Ancient Egyptians had many commandments, many of which were simple and intended to care for everyone's welfare, especially keeping their environment clean for good health. They represented a caring and loving god, not the Piso family scary angry God. The Piso family represented a very rude Jesus until I wondered just how those words could be of God. But of course, we were coerced to believe that, do all that they told us to do or burn in hell!!!!!
What a way to control mankind! Now thousands of years later, those writings determine national and international laws and govern the lives of billions. As I was researching about the Pole Shift and 2012 Cataclysm (it will still come) I went into the ancient and the medieval world and realized that we have been had!!!!!!!!!!!! ­!!My only regret is that we do not have missionaries that can teach us all the Ancient Egyptian belief systems that united people at the time. We need to return to the ancient texts and poke holes on all those theories of organized religions which are just money minting corporations. All of them have a lot to protect. The lies, the cover ups, the mind control plans. There is no bigger business than religious tourism.
Remove Mecca and oil from Saudi Arabia and it will be a least developed country. Italy is falling slowly because fewer and fewer people are that much into Christianity and all the religious souvenirs that kept their people employed are not being bought.
As an African, I suggest that All Black Moslem people go for pilgrimages at Timbuktu, and all Black Christians go to pilgrimage in Axum Ethiopia. They will all be treated with respect and all their monies will grow the economies of Africa.
80% of Muslims live in Africa. As for Christians, Africans have a significant proportion of Christians. We need to go back to our roots instead of trying to keep up with changing doctrines and and values. I am not a racist, I just stated what can work for Africans and Afro-descendant­s. If other people wish to join our pilgrimages in Africa, they are welcome. In fact, Africa has always welcomed people irrespective of color....especi­ally if their intent is not to kill others.... Jesus was a teacher, not a god. The trinity began in Ancient Egypt...Isis, Osiris and Horus and the Bible, Hindu and other ancient texts were based on that Ancient Egyptian trinity.

striktlymi: Morning to you too Folly,



...and your point is?



So?



...hmmm then what are you doing in Atheism? At least I know that some persons have killed because they want to make Atheists out of their people.




...and you think that because some Nigerians are corrupt, every Nigerian is corrupt? What "powerful" logic...



Hmmmm...mind telling us the origin of this your God?



Handle ke? Why should I bother handling it?

I dont know how many time I need repeat myself for you not to use folly for me. My name is foly.

kwangi: FOLYKAZE... Take this dude's ^^ advice.
It was like he's in my mind!
And yes, if you didn't want 'spiritual' answers, you shouldn't have brought it here.

are there on Atheist here? Must you always talk about spiritualism? Add something pls

Red-Light:
face ur fear.... Stay late outside a bit more ...make sure its dark b4 u go home... Take ur laptop outside when u are at home in the evening and browse till like 12-2am ....do it 4 like a month consistently.... That should work... It myt be harder at first though buh u will get use to it and u wnt fear darkness anymore...... Buh i dnt think this thread should be on religion section if u dnt want mystical answers like prayers and all those craps u'v been getting

Thanks for your contribution.

This is a religion section but do you notice there are atheist here which can help without this spiritualism most people are shouting.

Ifeness just did

ifeness: It is a natural process after going through so much brain wash. The brain does react to horror movies,especially the one as bad as the christian god horror tales..... The christian story with all horrors in it makes satanism look like a child's play. My advice: think positive,free your mind- i went through that process too.

And when you become free,you will become more of yourself,the real person you were meant to be. Living with no belief system is ecstatic!

this is the pill I want. Thanks for your contribution

shol: Just see it as nothing or be prepared for the worse , Ideas they say ,my friend can be very helpful or very dangerous ,just get rid of the IDEA it's just the IDEA tormenting you, see it has that and nothing more....

Thanks

yorubaamerican: Very nice! So just how did yoruba people leave behind olodumare and the rest of their gods?

yorubaamerican: Very nice! So just how did yoruba people leave behind olodumare and the rest of their gods?

where did you read or heard that Olodumare relates with human? Where did you heard that Olodumare begged man to worship him? Can you describe Olodumare whom you worship? I wont say Yoruba people are wrong cuz I see Olodumare as ENERGY. But did you ever heard about energy having conscience? Relating Olodumare to biblical god is totally wrong. We both know that the concept of god and spirit is mythical. Why would I believe that death is a black man carrying a big stick and hit people to death? Why would I believe in the creation myths? Why would I believe that tortoise is the wisest creature and it talk with man?

striktlymi: Testimoony time...Blessing time!!!

Brother Foly has given an inspirational testimony...can someone give a big shout out to the spaghetti monster...




Now that Brother Folly has told us how he became a "believer", I thought he was going to stick to African traditional religion since he talked about being original...

#Anyways, that's pagan nja's loss.

Stop playing around with the F word. You spell foly and not folly.

Paganism is more or less like culture to me. And culture is a way of life. In pagan, if you do believe in them, you worship with them and if you do not, you dine with them.

Paganism is different from christianity and Islam where millions are killed for not believing in their myths.

Quran 8:39.."wage war
on non muslims and
KILL them until they
SUBMIT and accept the
only religion is islam"


Bible 2 Chronicles
15:13...."That whosoever
would not seek the lord
god of
Israel should be put to
DEATH, whether small
or
great, whether man or
woman.



.....And they be like "let people like Foly talk, it'll only make my faith stronger".
*low tone*. Really, are these people murderers? Why are you guys killing for god? Cant he handle is task himself?

Pagan9ja win a slot cuz my brain is my god. And I give all praise to it. 'ori ẹni ni aba bọ, aba fi orisa silẹ, nigba ti iku n pani, ki ni orisa nwo?

Thats what you should handle

Technology now do the destruction of Quran. Will the muslim fight for technology extinction?


My Muslims friends you have a Quran dilemma, come let us reason.

If ripping a page out of the Quran is blasphemous & worthy of death then the same punishment should be dealt to anyone who “cut and paste” any part of the Quran and post it on nairaland.

Do Muslims wash their hands {as required} before they read the Quran online? What if a Muslim deletes the Quran from his/her computer shouldn’t that be considered desecration of the Quran 2013 style?

If a computer has the Quran down loaded on its hard drive gets a computer virus what should that Muslim do with his/her computer now that his/her Quran has a virus on it? Isn’t it also blasphemous for a Muslim to throw out a computer with the Quran still on its hard drive?

I think the age of enlightenment and modern technology have put the Muslims in a great dilemma concerning their Quran. They can’t cut and paste, they can’t delete, they can’t throw out their old computers with the Quran loaded on it. I don’t even know if it is ok for Muslims to e-mail the quran into cyber space with all the porn flying around out there.

Hundreds of people have been killed by this muslims in the name of defending Quran from been destroyed. Technology have moved to take over in the cutting and trashing of Quran in place of man. Are this mullahs going to protest, fight and kill technology?

Technology now do the destruction of Quran. Will the muslim fight for technology extinction?


My Muslims friends you have a Quran dilemma, come let us reason.

If ripping a page out of the Quran is blasphemous & worthy of death then the same punishment should be dealt to anyone who “cut and paste” any part of the Quran and post it on nairaland.

Do Muslims wash their hands {as required} before they read the Quran online? What if a Muslim deletes the Quran from his/her computer shouldn’t that be considered desecration of the Quran 2013 style?

If a computer has the Quran down loaded on its hard drive gets a computer virus what should that Muslim do with his/her computer now that his/her Quran has a virus on it? Isn’t it also blasphemous for a Muslim to throw out a computer with the Quran still on its hard drive?

I think the age of enlightenment and modern technology have put the Muslims in a great dilemma concerning their Quran. They can’t cut and paste, they can’t delete, they can’t throw out their old computers with the Quran loaded on it. I don’t even know if it is ok for Muslims to e-mail the quran into cyber space with all the porn flying around out there.

Hundreds of people have been killed by this muslims in the name of defending Quran from been destroyed. Technology have moved to take over in the cutting and trashing of Quran in place of man. Are this mullahs going to protest, fight and kill technology?

I become atheist when I realized I was played like cattle. Reading into Yoruba history, invasion and corruption by the white folks, I pushed to my origin and not another man's origin.

You remember the saying in yoruba that says "Ori eni ni aba bọ a ba fi orisha silẹ; Nigba ti iku n pani, ki ni orisa n wo. Ori ẹni ni duro ti ni.

My head is my brain. Without my brain, im nothing. My existence is ignited by my brain. So I praise my Lord-BRAIN

If I got problem, I need sit down and think, reason and sort out things with my brain. And a success of a mission is bestowed to my brain.

No God but me

shol: it's because you're an atheist and you used to be religious, so you're afraid of dying, and you don't know if the side of the coin you chose will favour you.
I was always afraid like you when i was tending towards atheism, but i've come to believe that God exist and you don't have to be a muslim, christian, bhuddist to believe, i came to that conclusion because there are somethings i don't understand yet

Like someone who was medically or scientifically not pregnant but gave birth in a church
How a prophet i've never met told me my past, present and future
How some people are medically fit and good to go but are very sick

Only few will understand the above, there's more to Africa than meets the eye...

You are right with some of your point. I was feed with lies and fairy tales which are scary when I was an adolescent. Stories like an old man is following me around watching over me, some spirit in town late in the night, walking dead from grave-yard to street and others. This is what I see as the cause of this fear.

So the issue is how can I get rid of this scary myth

ifeness: Fear means that you believe, that a scenario that you very much do not want to happen, is very likely to happen! Therefore fear is serving an indicator that you believe in something not alighned with your being. You need to spot what makes you scared,replace it with a good or positive one. I personally do see fear as a good thing sometimes, it enables me change my beliefs.

Thanks for the advise their, I have been trying to wave up this with music

nisot23: @OP,what they've told you here is the truth whether you accept it or not.You need to always pray especially for God's own peace in your life,His peace will drive out all the fear and anxiety in you.And remember that the wisdom of man is but foolishness in God's sight.

I dont believe in God. The only prayer I need is to meet up with my LORD (BRAIN).

Paschal007: What do you need me to tell you sir? That your sleepless nights could lead to depression and suicide?

Go to where you'll get better help. www.nairaland.com/health

Seriously you should consider praying and fasting and maybe going to church too. It once helped an atheist here though he didn't give credit to whom credit is due.

Is this christian version of Taqiyya ( Islamic doctrine of deceit to defend and promote Islam)