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9jacrip:
Awon t'emi.

Se e ti se itefa?

Did mine a while back, it has been one major journey. If both or any one of you has done it, I would like to discuss and expand my knowledge.

nope.

Is Itefa different from Ponnadu?

Gbese re o

This man should pls step down when the ovation is loud.

Monday is not too far. That biatttch needs to cool off her azs in jail

yemaldo:
Are you sure about this, UK police said they have no record of such

The arrest was not made by the Metropolis/London police but rather by National Crime Agency of UK. They are body that investigate crime related case. Right now, they are working with EFCC and ICPC in trackling down corrupt Nigerian officials who laundered out money in foreign banks.

Here is what they said on twitter confirming the arrest https://mobile.twitter.com/NCA_UK?p=i

read bro

I bought a Lenovo A101 with 2G RAM 32G ROM. I have rooted the phone and it works efficiently until when I started filling the phone storage with big files. I noticed that once the files made up to 4G, the phone storage begin acting in some funny ways. I cant use any file on it. Some become corrupted. New folders cannot be created. Music start disappearing and lot more.

So I did hard reseting and it started working fine again until I filled the storage upto 5G and the problem starts. I tried to recover my files by connecting the phone to a laptop. I found out that the phone memory appears that it has 4.5Gig instead of 32Gig that usually appear before on the phone. I have tested different system analyzer and found out the tablet has 32G internal memory capacity but whenever I download file making up to 4G, the phone memory corrupt my files.

How can I fix up this and free up my memory?

macof:
Folykaz

Ehn

cmoney22222:
Pls when is the date for this? I sent you and email . Am still waiting for your reply

4th October.

onetrack:
I don't really accept this because this is the kind of thing that could be faked. I'd like to see someone make time stop. That would be impressive.

I dont even claim I can stop time. The argument was on basic and common charm efficacy.

Someone had to voluntare before we could test Okigbe out. If you are not convinced even after the video is out, you can come on ground to have your own test. We can first test the sharpness of cutlass on your back. If it is confirmed, you can then descend on the voluntare.

I understand you will argue the video can be faked. But when you are on ground, you can test a charm on yourself.

I need a non-believer who is man enough to have a taste and feeling of Oogun

The Senate on six week recess. Pls what exactly re they been paid for when they are doing nothing for good six week?

crixtex:
Lol... I m a Christian and I follow after Jesus Christ... not a rapist who twisted d laws of God... Moreover who wud u rather follow based on teaching and lifestyle. .. Jesus or Muhammad? ??

The followers (disciple) are obligated to hate their parent, sibling and friend. Luke 14:26

This does not here, he said no one should think he came to the world to bring peace but he is here with sword. What do you think sword is meant for? Do you play and fams play with sword or it is a weapon for war against peace?


America is not a home for any damy phucking religion. The founding father of America are Mason not Christian. Their ideology over there lean with irreligiousity and secularism. Christinity home is Vatican and Jerusalem. Ya all should your religious biogotry to where the sun dont shine

AGB7:
what these NASA guys dont no is that Mars is still under construction. The is no life there yet. It will take some more time for that to probably happen. The discovery of liquid water there as they claim is, very well, a clue to the possibility of a far future life there. This is a good indicator and sure gage for that to happen because where there is water, there is a possibility for life to exist. However, note the ''briny'' which is an indication that this liquid water may not yet be of required standard to support life.

There is water on Jupiter's moon. Does that mean live exist on Jupiter moon because there is evidence of ocean of water found on it?

9jacrip:
Folykaze baba, I received your mention. My inability to acknowledge the thread has been due to my health situations.

I'm following though.

Kara ole baba.

sonOfLucifer:
This is the clearest definition you've given.



Still crap though, but I get the gist.

ok

Dolemite:
Thanks, what is a spiritual atheist though?

Spiritual atheist disbelieve in God defined as a person living behind the cloud. However, spiritual atheist believes there are more to human, animal and every matter than their physical body. We believe spirit exist. Traditional atheists disbleieve in God but we try to define our God as energy or force or spirits in nature. Some tends to call this spirit consciousness, psyche, ultimate mind, God or whatever, we understand.

Also, spiritual atheist engage in kind of spirituality without God (defined as human). Our spiritualism like Fela said is To be spiritual is not by praying and going to church. Spiritualism is the understanding of the universe so that it can be a better place to live in.

johnydon22:
That's great i love magic shows..

Ogbeni this is not magic show. You can get enough Chris Angel shows on youtube if that is what you want.

This is Oogun potency test. And will bring end to the endless argument on here. You can as well come and have a watch live

dalaman:
Wow! Interesting. So you are married to a Pastors daughter. Nice. How do her family think about your beliefs? It could be a big deal if the guy isn't fanatical about is christian beliefs.

They are not fanatical. Though the relationship was tough when it started. I had a girl who stood on her ground and instited she will marry me no matter who I am. She was disowned when she had pregnant. But I have to bring her in. With so much love, her mother soften the heat from her family. Her dad is hard to relate with yet but I think the fear have reduced. I have visited him twice since we had our son. And I believe as time go on, I will be someone he likes.

I am a spiritual atheist who lean toward ATR. My wife is a christian. She is the daugter of a pastor. What I think brings us together is love, respect and understanding. I dont see what the big deal is if you choose to date a christian.

Today 27th of September, I made the first shot of Oogun. The video is made on efficacy test of Okigbe. There were several attempt to cut a voluntare without success because he had Okigbe on. The video will be available on youtube when the completing side is ready.

There would be another test on Aluwo (Ogun that makes opponent fall, lost consciousness or possibly die when hit instantly). Arrangement are on ground and we will shoot this on Sunday 4th of October. This will serve as the completing shot afterwhich the video will be uploaded on youtube.

I am using this medium to call on skeptics, atheists and non-believers to watch this live. We will have the test on animal. This person can choose not to appear in the video, there is no problem in that. Accomodation and feeding will be taken care by me. I just want people to feel the power of Oogun and ewe live and direct.

Shooting location : Ore, Ondo state.

I can be reach through my email folykaze@yahoo.com for more questions.

Cc Macof, dalaman, pagan9ja, johnydon22, weah96, plaeton, 9jacrip, reginus, rationalmind, musKeeto, weigraf, francistony, jayriginal, UyiIredia, davien, onetrack, pastoraio, GooseBaba, menesheh

macof:
And God must be human because of that?

Yes. Or do you think it should Goat?

macof:
Ask a christian this. Why do you keep saying human tho

Were you not the one that said you were looking for tge personhood of God?

orisa37:
May the lightening of sango strike you, in Jesus Name. I haven't said Amen. I am just harrassing you, so the curse wont work. Sango is the Yoruba moniker for a junior Spirit of God for lightening. That is why the Yoruba refer to it as "Orisa". Jehovah is the Vulgate interpretation of YHWH, Yahweh, the Hebrew and Greek name of God. Please don't let too much knowledge make you mad.

dont let inferiority complex becloud your head. I will take your post as result of ignorace.


1. The English word for Orisha is God. The word God for Orisha is not lesser that the God for Jehovah.

2. Jehovah is the son of the Most High. He inherited Israel as his own portion from Most High. Just like Sango ruling over the Oyo Kingdom and been lower in ranking to Eledumare.

3. Sango is more powerful than Jehovah. Power is not represent by number of people that flocks gullibishly after you but power lies in the number of people who understand your value and worth.

Sango brings balance to the world. It is Sango's power that make this world be. Jesus starts and ends on a plank of wood.

macof:
Human Smh

Pls go to a church and find out.

experience of 20 years in the church is enough to have a handful understanding of Christianity.

On another note, what you said on Finofaya thread indicate that there is human nature of christian God. You were looking out for personhood of Christian God. This impies that you are in possession of some knowledge about christian God been a person.

So what prompted the question? Did any christian leader ever told you their God is person or has a personhood?

macof:
Go to a church and maybe your question will be answered

Should we conclude christians do not agree that their God is human or person?

davien:
* Yawn
I'd hardly see it that way as compared to a person that has to equate terms to present his case, all in all another empty post.

Anthropomorphic entity is not human. The human trait attribute are figurative expression pointing to an existing element.

davien:
You can chase your tail all day, it only shows how low and depraved you'd go to present your case.

This does not make your twisted lie truth.

davien:
@bolded, The funny thing about equivocating terms is that you end up sounding like a slowpoke... can a belief in god(god-belief) stand on its own without an acknowledgement and acceptance in the first place? or are you going to sheepishly label god "limestone" this time?

Do you see that you are having comprehensive problem?

I said there is difference between belieiving in God and acknowledging in it existence?

The difference here is very clear. For example, christians acknowledge the existence of other Gods. They accept that some other Gods exist in other cultures. Even these Gods were mentioned in the bible. But do christians believe in these Gods?

For dummy which you are:

do christians acknowledge some other Gods exist? Yes.

Do christians believe in these other Gods? No.

I dont know what is hard to understand here.

davien:
Really? What happens to the pantheistic and deism god concept? You've trolled yourself off here..

You better start up some reading dumbo.

Hinduism is a pantheistic religion. I believe you do not want me to start schooling you on the personhood of hindu Gods.

Deism

Deism[ edit]
In general, most Deists view God as a personal God.

Foolish dumbo. Where are you going to hide your blocked head?

davien:
What's really foolish here is you keep running around in circles, you keep trying to claim the notion of god has a specific context and when asked you'd keep mute and continue trolling.

You are too dumb.

God are described as a person but that doesnt make them a person. It is foolishness that you cling on figurative expression which depict man as human rather than decoding the message.

davien:
*Yawn
Another empty post, I'm not even sure if you actually read your own posts nor understand what you're saying.

Again, you equate the general definition to the practise, practitioners of those religions whom call themselves "believers" would allege that those "metaphors" are true accounts, hence they believe.

Liar. All theologists agree that the account are metaphor.

davien:
The theology speaks for itself, and so far it speaks of ascension into the clouds and firmaments of waters in it, so you can keep deluding yourself and chasing your tail.

Your lies shredded.

davien:
Again,when you equivocate too much you end up contradicting yourself and making a fool of yourself... (below is a highlight of your post)


So which does it express? real entities/elements or figurative ones?

Can you explain how it is contradictory?

davien:
You can either keep typing empty assertions or present them here... something that's been justified can be easily presented, so where is the presentation for god?

Shakti is Energy.

Gaia is Earth.

Ogun is Iron.

These Gods existence justified.

davien:
Natural entity like what? poo? sand? You keep begging the question and again you're chasing your tail.

Incoherent.

Gaia represent Earth. Natural entity.

Lady Justice represent Law/Justice. Idea.

What more do you want dumbo?

davien:
A classic case of a persecution complex... it's no wonder you keep chasing your tail.

You are not addressing anything.

davien:
The entirety of your post is pure garbage, either you equate in one section or outright try making an empty claim in another...

Running of out of counter argument.

davien:
You definitively have a diaper rash, you made this claim, "Spirituality is not vague", but when it comes down to backing that up with an objective definition you'd run off and tell me to research the term.

Did you tell us how it is vague?

macof:
Lemme remind you that I was a Christian for almost 20 years
So I don't know what you are talking about

That you are a christian for decades is not an answer here.

The question again is that at what point in time did christian agree that Christian God is human or person?

macof:
Well for now I have nothing much to do. ..lemme play with you small. .

If you don't know anything about Greeks then learn. ..cus when you start using words like "atheist" "theist" that all come from Greek you need to know how they used the words

I've told you "Theos" is of the same root word as "Theory"
Theorie/Theoria - the word that has become "Theory"..originally meaning "Contemplation" "A looking at(with the mental faculty)"
Thea - A view, Idea, Notion. Masculine form of this word is "Theo" from the verb "δε" - "The(de)" meaning "to see"
Theos - the word for "Deity" or "God"
So my friend I can as well use the word "Theo" meaning Idea, it is afterall the root of the words "Theoria" and "Theos"

Idea is an image or representation of something. and in the past, more often than in modern times, ideas took shape into anthropomorphic entities with description like hands, head, wearing clothes, having sex, procreation, showing emotions etc and above all fine art. .. all this to help explain it better and easier

An atheist can reject an Idea doesn't mean he denies the existence of what the Idea is about

Thanks for you time here. But I think you err big time.

Make i no lost inside bush. Will get back when we get home

macof:
@ Folykaze I hope you know that no christian understands God (oh before you misunderstand this word...I mean the Christian God)
Infact to push to understand God is considered heresy...not to mention that there are so many denominations with different basic understanding of their God
To a typical christian. ..nobody knows God other than stuff like - God is a HE, God sits on a throne, God has a voice and speaks words and a few others
A christian takes his bible description of God very seriously. .and to him, it's a fact he is ready to die for

At which point did Christian agree that their God is human and person?

Secondly why are you with some atheists beaming light on something or position ehich Christians never agree to?

Finofaya said he was looking for tge personhood of God. You said he meant Abrahamic God. So tell me bro, what person or human are you looking foe in Christian God when the so called Christians did not at anyt point agree that tgeir God is human?

Misanthrope:
This Folykaze of a guy has a distorted understanding of what Ignosticism is all about.

Take for example.

An atheist will say there is no God, while an Ignostic will tell you that the word God is meaningless and all attributes ascribed to him are either improbable or ludicrous. It's more like Strong Atheism.

Oga stop calling on me like I missing. For the moment, let me answer your post.

I do not have any distorted understanding of the word Ignosticism. Yoy are the one that need to educate yourself more.

Here is a link http://atheism.wikia.com/wiki/Ignosticism for some help

IGNOSTICISM

TABLE OF CONTENTS
An ignostic is one who refrains from making any judgments about "god" until a coherent definition is provided. It is often considered a subset of agnosticism and/or atheism, and is compared to theological noncognitivism. It should not be confused with agnosticism or theological noncognitivism, however.

Etymology

The term "ignosticism" is a play on the words "ignorance" and "gnosticism." A direct meaning of ignosticism would mean something like, "ignorance of god(s)," meaning the ignostic doesn't know anything about gods, or doesn't know what the term "god" means. Typically the ignostic takes a position of refraining from making arguments for or against the existence of god(s) until a coherent definition of "god" is provided. Many ignostics are also theological noncognitivists, although the two positions are not mutually inclusive.

History

The word "ignosticism" was coined by Sherwin Wine, a rabbi and a founding figure in Humanistic Judaism.

Difference between ignosticism and agnosticism

The agnostic (and here I use Huxley's intended meaning) makes the claim that we cannot know anything about God, whereas the ignostic claims that we cannot even form an opinion of God. The difference is subtle, but distinct. The agnostic has made an opinion of God; the agnostic has a concept of God in mind and has determined that we cannot discern anything about this God. The ignostic, on the other hand, refuses to make any opinion of God in the first place, remaining ignorant until someone provides a coherent claim of God.

Read through and tell me where I err in what i said so far

finofaya:
Lol. Don't you think they would have taken Yemoja, and every other deity, into consideration before branding themselves ignostic atheists?

It seem you dont know what ignostic atheism is.

There are two sides to it. There may be more but these are the two sides:

1. I dont know what God is therefore I dont need to belief in it existence. Atheism out of ignornce.

2. I cannot accept this God because what you told me about it is not fatual. Atheism out of inconsistency of God.


Ignostic atheist might not know about Yemoja. Well if I explain to them what I mean by Yemoja, they might choose to accept it or throw it out base on reason.

This reason though can be stressed over and over.

davien:
Your reply here is just a bloated piece, the point I can find you trying to make is that "Atheists are foolish" because god-beliefs are figurative...

You expose the foolishness of atheists even more.

Your attempt to twist my words wont work here. I didnt say at any point that god-belief is figurative. What I said and pointed out is that illustrations, stories and accounts of God which depict God as human or personal entity are figurative.

No one is talking about God belief here. Believing in God is different from accepting and acknowledging in it existence. I am emphasising on the later from the general depiction which postulate God as human.

All Gods are personal. They have human attributes and forms. However, they are not human but representation of an entity which exist as Force, Natural entities and Idea.

The foolishness of atheism like you and finofaya are looking out for human or person in God which is figurative while leaving out what God is expressing in it context.

davien:
In reality,god-beliefs are figurative expressions of mainly anthropomorphic elements that are presented as factual and it is this claim that the atheist rejects and disbelieves until evidence to justify it is presented.

You always prove to me that atheism is nothing but noise of people who cannot justify some religious belief. Your ignorance and hypocrisy stinks to high heaven.

1. I have provided Christian, muslim and judaic view on the personhood of God. Non of these three religion agree at any point in time that personhodd of God is factual or present it as fact. They are agree that personhood of God is metaphoric, analogical and figure of speech.

The christian said there is n person called God in the sky or at any place in the universe. That you are blind to see real facts and deceitful to reject facts does not mean others will fall in line with your foolish deceitful trait.

2. Anthropomorphic element is an analogical representation of an existing element.

3. This issue has already been justified. You may have problem with other doctrines which believers hold too but the existence of God has been justified by various religion theoloian.

These God exist not as human as depicted but as a natural entity, force and idea.

You are the one cowardly looking for dirt in distilled water under the tag of justification.

davien:
And again, you're a juvenile troll in that you'd say "spirituality isn't vague" and go on with your strawman without presenting an objective term that best describes it...so have fun with that...

Spirituality is one. Religion might try to dilute it but it does not change. You can do some research rather than sitting your dumbass waiting for foly to define spirituality for you.

finofaya:
So ignostic atheists have to believe in clear, consistent and rational deities like Yemoja, then?

that is after I explain to them what Yemoja is.