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davien:
You've been trolling here for far too long and have adopted a childish equivocation argument as your sole post..

When deciding whether something falls into a certain definition, all traits shared by members agreed to fit it are highlighted and used to accommodate future inclusions into it..

So right now the traits agreed in a god-belief involve anthropomorphic entities that may/may not exist in human form, may/may not exceed human lifespans and may/may not be believed to interact in nature and may/may not possess the capability to express it's own intent in one form or another.

So redefining a god-belief that is generally regarded and categorized using the above as maybe a "hat" or "car" is not only disingenuous, it is a juvenile equivocation fallacy.

Plus "spiritual" is a vague term also..

Christianity

Christian theologian Alister McGrathwrites that there are good reasons to suggest that a "personal god" is integral to the Christian outlook, but that one has to understand it is an analogy. "To say that God is like a person is to affirm the divine ability and willingness to relate to others. This does not imply that God is human, or located at a specific point in the universe."

Judaism

Jewish theology states that God is not a person. However, there exist frequent references to anthropomorphic characteristics of God in the Hebrew Bible such as the " Hand of God." Judaism holds that these are to be taken only as figures of speech. Their purpose is to make God more comprehensible to the human reader.

Islam

There are quite a number of traditions in Sahih Bukhari describing that God has a sign in his leg, and he put his leg over the hell and so on. For instance see Sahih Bukhari, Arabic-English version, 9.532s in which Allah is said to have a sign in his shin (leg) and when he uncovers his shin (leg) people will recognize him. Or in the same volume see Tradition 9.604 and 9.510 where it is said that Allah has fingers. Such reference are used metaphorically and do not refer to actual finger, hand or leg.

SLIDEwaxie:
Pls., when is ileya?

finofaya:
These people claim to be ignostic atheists. Ask them what they are atheists to. I'm sure you know that atheism is an incoherent position.

macof:
Obviously Folykaze knows this already, he's using all of you to catch fun.
Am yet to see how someone denies the existence of "Gaia" should drive Folykaze to forcing down disbelief in the existence of "Gē" (anglicized to "Geo" along with it
The very Greeks knew the difference between "Gaia" their Goddess and the Earth they saw and felt under their feet in Matter as opposed to a spirit they couldn't feel as matter but created stories about

Nd oh! There are many who realize what Gaia stories means to the existence of the earth but discard them as stuff that never happened even as atheist and non greek Pagans grow to accept or at least respect the greek Gaia and make some new concepts about the earth...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis

finofaya:


But they must have some particular god in mind sir. Ask then which "god" they are referring to when they say that the term "god" is meaningless. I'm sure the gallery in a theatre is not meaningless.

macof:
Smh. Digest this from Mcsterling

...cus to be honest am tired of you

Abeg when your video on oogun dey hit YouTube?that's a discussion am interested in

Misanthrope:
So you mean she's the energy behind Servomechanism or Hydraulics? Lol.... I give up.

McSterling:
For your mind this your yeye aimless recurring argument is an invincible argument against atheism, abi? Keep wallowing in your delusion, you hear? Kontunu

McSterling:
So, when a piece of obsidian is worshipped as god by some, then I, a geologist who also claims to be atheist must disbelieve in the existence of obsidian to in fact be an atheist My atheism is now contingent on what some decide to worship as god. Does that even make any sense?

McSterling:
No sir, atheism isn't disbelief in anything called god. Obviously, there is an exception when the thing called god is provable. Provable things aren't what the atheist refers to as god.

finofaya:
I suppose you are trying to bait me. Lol. You are no Diego Costa.

Please ask the OP which god he is ignostic to.

Misanthrope:
Sorry, but for something to be proven to exist, it has to physically quantified.
These so-called gods have not been detected by optical and microscopical observations, they only exist in the head of believers.

I've read about these gods you mentioned and, that's why I'm still surprised that people actually take their stories serious despite the illogical and improbable exaggerations about them in the holy books.

Provide me evidence, I'm not Agnostic, until I see evidence, you're talking nonsense when you mention the word God.

McSterling:
When atheists here attempt to define their concept of god, it is this same you who begins to ask asinine questions, cavil and argue about how they aren't truly atheists because they believe in natural entities you've termed god. Perhaps, to you, atheism means disbelief in every thing other people have chosen to call god, even when these things can be empirically observed and proven to exist. According to you everything can be defined as god: planetary bodies, stones, grapes, fishes, water, yourself etc. and every atheist must disbelieve in all of these together with other concepts of god in order to be in fact atheists, no?

Misanthrope:
I'm serious, different religions and their vague interpretation and understanding of existence....

There's no God and there is no reason to believe there is or might be one.
If you think I'm wrong then show me evidence.

macof:
Any atheist can come and start talking about You as a God or God as a concept, or God as the universe, or God as energy, or Gods as aliens but above all -atheists are known to be concerned with personal Gods - the type that sit on thrones somewhere in the sky and command humans, the same ones who make natural laws only to break the laws to perform "miracles"
So stop wasting people's time when you already know what they are after by their posts. Wat you should do is say you don't understand atheism and go study the notion. More so stop mentioning me into these type of discussion until you loose the confusion or could be abnormal desire for an argument. ..which ever one

To put it simply, theism is a belief in the existence of at least one god - nothing more, nothing less. Theism does not depend upon how many gods one believes in. Theism does not depend upon how the term 'god' is defined. Theism does not depend upon how one arrives at their belief. Theism does not depend upon how one defends their belief.

That theism only means "belief in a god" and nothing more can be difficult to understand at times because we don't normally encounter theism in such isolation. Instead, when we see theism, it is embedded in a web of other beliefs - often religious in nature - which color not only the theism itself but also our perception of that theism.

macof:
Finofaya and I have defined the God. It's you who just want to keep arguing...its your way of passing out boredom

You already know "God" has different meaning to different people so When you see the comment you don't need to ask silly questions or waste people's time

Misanthrope:
I think the belief in God is psychological conditional induced by parents and society. I really feel sorry for believers, wasting their energy and passion on imaginary things.

McSterling:
It is this very supposed ambiguity of the definition of god that people like folykaze use to argue interminably and aimlessly. There is no agreed universal definition of the concept/entity called god since every man is free to define his god.

banjicom:
Sometimes Yes, sometimes No.
God is unpredictable.

banjicom:
like when you are sitting down in your house or sleeping and u suddenly hear someone call your name like dis: kstadaura ooooo!

chukwudi44:
Initia gragra nothing will happen

Lushore1:
The religion is growing rapidly across the world but what really makes me happy about this documentary was the calibre of africa america who are identifying with the religion (professor, lecturers, phd student and college graduates). The good news is that many we continue to come but i just wish the state government understand how much they could be generating from tourism.

absoluteSuccess:
You are perfectly right. You do not need to bring other peoples' comparative 'good creed' down just to establish your own creed, that's 'insecurity complex'. You rather share your core value to endear more friends to the fold to help solve inner crisis. 'Inubibi ng o ran O nise, edo fufu ng o be O l'owe: adia fun oriadetu, ab'iwa pele..

absoluteSuccess:
Its one of the 5 largest religion, but does it promise salvation to its adherent or 'its right because its ours?' What is the teneth of Yoruba religion?

egift:
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Laughing at the Wailing TANoids

OZAOEKPE:
"PMB is BH, BH is PMB". Quote me anywhere.

finofaya:
Which God are we speaking of now? I've consulted babalawos and I've danced with masquerades (as a drummer for the president, lol). All I saw was people running a scam and getting blazing high, respectively.