₦airaland Forum

Hueman:
Read this sad thread and see how Nigerians are describing the level of poverty in this country. I don’t think you people understand how poor we are. I doubt North Korean go through what we go through.

https://mobile.twitter.com/femiexe/status/1438185942330789893

Korea is poor, wretched and miserable. This is a known fact.

obaaderemi:
I think at this stage I have to stop responding to that guy.

Gbam

Abohboy:
Also Namibia

Many East African countries including Tanzania and Kenya (some parts).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_German_colonies#German_imperial_colonies

obaaderemi:
Germany and Italy didn't get their wealth from colonialism.

Japan didn't get its wealth from colonialism.

They all stole. Japan used live Koreans as experiments to develop their medical institution.

They colonized many Asian countries.

Germany colonized some parts of Cameroon and Nigeria. Including the whole Togo land.

Same with Italy. They colonized Libya, Somalia, and Eritrea but they all lost all after world war 2 defeat.

theInterpreter:
Nigeria is 100 times better than north Korea

North Korea is a crazy mixture of no freedom, dictatorship,poverty

China is a mixture of wealth, little freedom

North Korea should never be a model country
Even if they have a life expectancy of 200 years

The hueman guy has lost it totally

Nigeria is actually better than many countries
But we have been brainwashed into thinking "anywhere else but Nigeria" is good

Nobody should in this era should desire to be born not to talk of live in North Korea because majority of North Korean citizens are fleeing to China everyday despite the possibility of getting killed while crossing the militarized river separating China from North Korea.

Hueman:
Togo has a population of 8 million with a life eexpectancy of 60. While North Korea has a population of 25 million with a life expectancy of 72. Any more delusional stink??

North Korea is poor, wretched, poor and miserable.

After observing the situation in Nigeria, I discovered capitalization has made few rich but many poor.

Like I said, Nigeria must research the economic system that suits us.

It’s very easy to kill a man but it’s very difficult to kill an ideology.

mtisTheQubit:
Africa may not have been as scientifically and economically sophisticated as the invading colonists, but they had their own systems of administration, cultural traditions, and faiths, as well as socio-political stability and peace to a significant extent.
Perhaps if the Europeans had not invaded Africa, the term undeveloped would have not existed since there would have been no country or continent to compare Africa to, and Africans would have just continued to spend their lives in contentment and isolation.

On the other hand, does this indicate that the European invasion and colonialism had no value for Africa? The question is whether Africans did not acquire something on which to rebuild after independence, regardless of everything they went through and lost during the colonial era.

People should just stop blaming white man for robbing Africa bare, claiming they are the source of Africa's current lack of development. They have so far placed less focus on what and why Africans have failed to achieve after independence, which I believe is partially due to the African folk's cultural and behavioral issues.

No doubt Africa gained from these colonialists but they are behind Africa’s current lack of development.

Why? The instability in Africa is as the result of these colonialists indirect interference and sponsorship of coups. That’s much I can say.

obaaderemi:
I like this. It would have been more to Africa's advantage if the Europeans had merely traded with us rather than the encouraging slavery and the slave trade and later following it up with colonialism.

That way our development would have been a mixture of our own native civilization and borrowed civilization from them.

You are right on point. The European will aim was to exploit the hidden treasures in Africa.

It’s as simple as that.

chrisooblog:
but what is really working? take Yorubas as an example. Different nation states attacking and killing each other. Selling fellow 'omo oduduwa' into slavery. We were a society that didn't really encourage some much innovation but elevated and encouraged superstition over enlightenment.

Don't get me wrong every society had their norms and spiritual beliefs but some how they were able to co-exist with development and scientific progress in their various societies.

Until the early part of last century saponna was still worshipped before the 'imperilist' brought vaccines that helped us eliminate smallpox from our environment.

One good thing the Chinese and Indians have been to do is understand what works globally be it economic and technological systems and integrating such into the realities of our cultures and societies.

Can you please show me any imperialist country that didn’t kill each other?

What is the difference between the tribal wars the imperialist fought and the one Yoruba fought?

It’s very simple. It was for the unification of their various tribes into single Ethnic nation.

Oyo and Ibadan wanted to unify the whole country under one rule. This was the phase the imperialist went through and at the end became powerful.

Please, read history books to learn about the unification of ethnic groups across the world.

Who told you there was no innovation? Do you know the cloths, the weapons, the military formations, the art, shoes, boats, communicate system, architecture, system of government etc were all as a result of indigenous African innovations?

I am not saying all Africans were innovative but it doesn’t change the fact that some parts of Nigeria were innovative before the imperialist invasion.

Didn’t they invade China? So China was not innovative?

If you are talking about industrial revolution, it didn’t happen until the British initiated just few few centuries before invasion.

And please, don’t let me believe superstition is only in Africa. That’s a pure lie.

Did Christianity begin in England, France and those imperialist countries? Capital No

So what did they believe and worship? Was it different from Shango and Ayilala?

Science existed in Africa long before the imperialist came to her shores.

They stoled it and improved on it.

What stops us from doing same at our own space, way of government and ideas?

We had a system that worked for us before the invasion of the imperialist.

Copying a imperialist system of government and economic will not work because they told you half backed truth.

Eweso!

Ibkhaleel001:
LET US VOMIT OUT THE SOUTHERN HOOK, LINE AND SINKER


Northern Nigeria has more graduates and Professors than South Africa. The real problem is not as Southerners paint it and you echo it like empty halls. 


Practically, millions of Northerners are either unemployed, misemployed, or underemployed. Our problem is our chances are blocked and our resources dominated by Southerners who paint the wrong picture for fools to believe them.


75% of  government spending is connered by Southerners via the domination of salary earning, contracts, projects, bail outs and other interventions. Trade and industries are dominated by Southerners who have easy access to multi billion credit facilities courtesy their domination of state financial structure and instruments and institutions. 


Every ministry is dominated by them. All our markets are monopolized by them due to their control of capital that enable them to finance business and take more risk due to ease of acces to money. They conrol their markets by regular disruptuons of our businesses officially and by direct frequent violence unofficially. Their control of and easy access to liquidity enable them to be more enerprising business wise. They buy our goods cheap and sell theirs exorbitantly.


To preserve the exploitative status quo they spread false verson of the reality. They centralize oil as the main source of wealth so that our attention will be far away from other sources of wealth they dominate.

Oil is less than 10% of  Nigeria's GDP. They tell us we are the parasite and we are lazy and we are uneducated to instil a sense of guilt, self hate and inadequacy in us. We swallow all these falsehood uncritcally because we made our source of daily information their media and books. They over concentrate on our weaknesses and ignore almost completely their own weaknesses. An average Southerner having mild cold will almost by default blame it on Northerners and will not lack northerners who "speak the truth" to agree with him.


How can uneducated people have multitude of unemployed graduates? How can lazy people be producig the food of the nation? Why do millions of Southerners troop to the poor parasitic North and refuse leave? The south said so and it is?


What we need is a  political economic solution. We must take control of our local markets, our institutions and our businesses in their land must be given due attention and protection and any act of disruption by way of constant destruction must be paid back in due measure without listening to their victimship outcries. They fear separation more than us because their weak economic foundation, especially the west entirely dependent on controlling  government resources.


We must ask and take our fair share of every government employment at whatever cost. No people has ever prospered when their resources, oppurtunities and chances are blocked and dominated by others.  Our constant preachment of peace must stop: justice and and equity must be our new slagon. 


The real problem is believing in the propaganda of the enemies which saps our resourcefulness and infuse our senses with feelings of backwardness that really do not exist, or are caused by false perception. The greatest defeat one can suffer is to see oneself as projected by one's enemies. 


Almajiri is system suffocated by lack of finance. Poverty is a direct result of economic domination and exclusion. Degrees are not unavailable. Marrying four wives will not stop as it is never a problem but a great social system. Once we assert control on what is rightly ours, that self concious timidity will evaporate and be replaced by confidence and bold enterprise. Up to the Seventies we were the richest people in Africa. As the central government grows and  takes control of resources our wealth progressively dwindles. As the southerners intensify drums of hate and aggression we draw back to give peace, that is never forthcoming, a chance.


Try asking for propotionate representation in all government employment in all institutions and at all levels, they will cry out about mediocrity supplanting merit as if those half literates southerners dominating the place are Einstein incanates. Or they will blackmail you with Islamization.


Try treating their traders in our markets as they treat ours and they will cry xenophobia as if the regular denial of market space, heavy taxation, constant disruption of business and officially sanctioned harrassment of our traders in their land does not exist.


Try replacing Southern union leaders and foreign sponsored NGOs operating in the North with our own people and they will start wailing about marginalization.


Well, their era of dominance and false propaganda is coming to an end with the coming of age of young northerners who could no longer accept marginalization because of blackmail or threat. These new bold Northern youth have seen how southerners cowered when asked to leave the North two years ago. Their cries for secession are empty ruse. 


We will be better off without them and they will definitely be worse off without us. They know we lack nothing, while their millions selling substandard, fake good, drugs and inrdinately high interest bank loans fleecing the north and feeding on cheap food and services will have nothing on returning back home. Their franchise firms and industries will lose over 100 million costumers overnight which is more than their home market demand. 


Soon we will ask for equity or call it quit. We know who we are and we know our strength.

Can you please explain the bolded empirically? Thanks

ThEGodFaThEr103:
No nah! Delta Igbo, most especially the northern part is an Igbo land. There are about 25 local govt areas and 3 senatorial districts in the political nomenclature Delta state. Delta north, delta central and delta south. Delta north that shares the same boundary with Anambra is the highest with 9 local government of which 95 percent of its people are Igbos. Delta central has 8 local govt that comprises Urhobo and Isoko while Delta south with its 8 local govt is shared by Ijaws and Itshekiris.

Ezeokwu!

Ngorbungor:
You made it look like they do

Keep living in self delusion.

Ngorbungor:
Oga stop talking trash, which South West own majority, which company? Dangote alone has employed over 40,000 for his refinery, a refinery that is even under construction, show us the companies they are controlling

Lagos State alone has employed more than that not to talk of other states.

SWners are not controlling any company. Is that not what you want to hear?

DubaiLandLord:
I read it well. By the time we start comparing how much the Government makes from the Ijebu ode axis, Abk axis and ota axis, the state government makes far more money in the ota axis, so why is the axis not entitled to a massive road construction?

You yourself talk say infrastructure will be spread. Base on fair play, he should also spend more on the axis that generate more revenue.

Maybe you don't have a car sha, you can't have a car and drive it through the sango axis and not be angry with the governor.

Lagos Ibadan axis has more activities and factories than Ota axis now. Are you not aware?

gomojam:

The thing tire me ooooo.

gomojam:
This is what I am telling Dubailandlord. Most our people do not know the reality of a situation but just criticize out of sentiment.

No mind them. As I type the Lagos - Sango - Ota road is under construction by FG as I type. They have stared work at the tollgate to Shoprite mall. Don't allow anyone fool you.

DubaiLandLord:
Which roads is he constructing in ijebu axis and sango ota axis?

A man that told us he does not know the roads in ota axis are in terrible conditions

Ogun state does not need a man that will come and be giving useless excuse.

The Ota axis generate far more money than any other part of Ogun state.

Where is this project situated?

gomojam:
This is my thought each time they blubber that selfish rhetoric. I didn't see most of them criticising when Amosun was focused on Abeokuta. Some of the bad roads in Ota are even the responsibilities of the fg but Dapo must be hanged for it.

Development must spread, from Abeokuta to Ota to Ijebu to Yewa, everywhere. But it will be gradual not overnight.

Gbam! Development MUST spread. Opari. As you rightly stated, most of the roads in Ota are Fg roads. I hope he can do it on their behalf and easy the burden of the residents of that area.

gomojam:
Makes sense.

Yes! It really makes sense. He can use the revenue generated from there to maintain the road and develop other projects.

haffaze777:
In Nigeria history bro, because I can bet my last Kobo that there's no governor worse than Dapo Abiodun in the whole Africa,can you believe that all those useless Eiye and Aiye confraternity has been killing each other since last year December?and the clueless man has yet to take any step about it, hardly will a day or two pass in Abeokuta south local government without gunshots in either,Sapon,oke ibode,ijemo,ijemo agbadu,ijaye or amolaso.Those mentioned name are closer to Government's house that u will hardly spend 100 naira on bike before you get to government's house yet the dindinrin man no take any action.Nah only God know who we offend to deserve this man

Hehehe! He is the worst because the status quote has changed. Development must spread to all the areas in Ogun State.

That Ota road has been there before his tenure. Why didn’t Amosun do it then during the oil boom?

Johnnyessence:
why erecting toll gate on the roads for God sake. This is unacceptable from the good people of ogun state.

It’s a major traveling route linking Lekki, Ajah axis to the East, Ondo, SS and North. Will generate revenue for the government.

obi4eze:
So they finally tolled that road.


But has the Lagos section been completed?

Still undergoing rapid construction.

daddytime:
One of the worst Governors in Ogun State's history.

He has barely spent 2 years and he is the worst Governor? Can you please explain? Thanks

Cheryphb:
Without lagos southwest will be 5 states without Abuja northwest will be 7 states, still southwest IGR is still neck to neck with northwest.

Abuja is NC not NE.

Biodun556:
If we have our own nation the money will disappear

IGR is flowing because of Nigerian unity i e head offices of companies are in Lagos while there factories might be located in another state, banks head offices are in Lagos, ports etc these are institutions serving the whole Nigeria but based in Lagos. If Nigeria split relocation and disintegration will make south west loose that opportunity. Our political elites know better that's why they will never support Yoruba nation

That might be true but almost half or majority of these institutions are owned by SWners.

stanluiz:
Nonsense!!

IGR IGR yet you can't build roads. You can't pay salaries. Where is the IGr going to ? The IGr of a thing is a media paper propaganda.

The people of ogun state are crying that they don't have roads. All the roads in the state are death traps. Where is the IGR ?

Propaganda will not take you guys anywhere!

All the road in Ogun State?

stanluiz:
Paper IGR

Go and use it to fix the death trap road in ogun state.

Even ebony state has dwarf ogun in infrastructure.

Ebonyi doesn’t have better infrastructures than Ogun State. Don’t be fooled.

Infrastructure is only concentrated in Abakaliki but it is distributed across the whole state in Ogun state.

Ota is just another city out of many cities and towns in Ogun State.

BLAISECAMPAORE:
South West minus Lagos N142b is still less than North-West's N147 Billion without Abuja and this is despite the insecurity. Lagos's biggest taxpayer is still from the NW (Dangote).

Without Lagos as walking stick, SW only beats the South East and war-torn NE.

How is Dangote the biggest task payer in Lagos?

I know you are just deliberately ignoring.

Hmmmm!