₦airaland Forum

This is serious.

fabyom:
They have said it many times on here that you are an ethnic bigot but you always find a way to deny it. It's glaring to everyone who you truly are. Go and create a thread on Kiriji war if you are sure that your argument is valid. I will be there to school you. This is a sport session for Nigerians. Please keep it as such.

Can you please explain what you mean by ethnic bigot or where you found it in my statement?

Honestly, I can’t stop laughing.

fabyom:
They have said it many times on here that you are an ethnic bigot but you always find a way to deny it. It's glaring to everyone who you truly are. Go and create a thread on Kiriji war if you are sure that your argument is valid. I will be there to school you. This is a sport session for Nigerians. Please keep it as such.

Who brought up Kiriji war? Me!?

You definitely brought it up and gave false information which I rightly corrected but now you are accusing me of bringing it up.

You even went further to call me a ethnic bigot.

For real. Lol (see as I just Dey laugh for here).

I can’t debate with a sentimental and prejudice person like you.

However, I can see you are looking for fans and sympathizes.

Well, you have gotten.

fabyom:
You people were almost fighting yourself to extinction at Kiriji war before the white men forcefully stopped you. Amalgamation took the political war far away from home. I wonder what will happen when it gets to Egba's turn and Ibadan says no in your imaginary Odua republic? Operation wetii alone should tell you that the Yorubas sees politics as do or die.

BascoVanVeli:
No it definitely wasn't because of apartheid. Mandela was president then.

Was Mandela the President in 1976?

I was talking about Olympic not 1996 AFCON.

chrisooblog:
Till today you still refuse to take your own advice well that's your bowl of ogi to worry about. back to football

Chop your L and move on to football in peace. Thanks

JohnBullMySon:
It's really sad, that you can quote a statement and still you don't understand it. There's absolutely no need replying you further than this.

Quote that they boycotted against South Africa apartheid government?

That’s a general knowledge.

It’s you that’s trying fruitlessly to separate Falcons from Nigeria.

chrisooblog:
No Peru

Next time don’t argue baselessly.

humility33:
The F. government is responsible for the falcons doesn't mean they're representing Buhari led government...they're representing the Nigeria State same with every representative of Nigeria in sports

When did I say they are representing Buhari? I am done with this argument.

humility33:
Do you know that he can be arrested for assualt and verbal abuse (disturbances of public peace) those ladies can press charges and have him arrested? Even in Nigeria where laws are not working u can arrest someone for confronting u in such manner in public to rain insults

Watch the video again. He didn’t assault them. He started calming but they started attacking him.

chrisooblog:
You are still refusing to humble yourself and receive correction.

Nigeria is above government. Government gets legitimacy from the people. Gaddafi was Libya people with external support kicked him out Libya is still existing.

Somalia that doesn't have a central government how do their athletes participate in sports na under somalia government wey no dey function? sometimes calm down and reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics

When Nigeria withdrew from the Olympics it was a joint African decision which the athletes understood because it was a political decision on their behalf by the Nigerian people against apartheid. 1996 when government was solely funding our football is the example you are bringing up? When GEJ withdrew Nigeria in 2010 from international competition what happened?

NFF according to FIFA is separate from government of Nigeria so what are you on about?

https://www.espn.com/soccer/nigeria/story/3136700/nigeria-senate-passes-regulation-on-nff

Who are the Falcons representing? Nigeria, right?

humility33:
Why do u have the internet? Austria is a democratic country that should be the basis u argue from and in europe they've got supremacy of the rule of laws in place thats why kids can call the cops on their parents

That’s why he has the right to protest and nothing happened to him as I am typing.

In fact, after watching the video again, I discovered he was the one attached and assaulted.

humility33:
Oga go and read Government text books basic SSS1 governments on sovereignty should teach u this

Who are they representing?

What do you know about the responsibility of the 3 tiers of government?

Who is responsible for the falcons?

humility33:
I think u are just proud to learn. I have learnt alot here since yesterday

Okay every countries have operate under the same laws. Are you happy now?

JohnBullMySon:
You just keep saying what you know nothing about. Nigeria and many other African countries boycotted the 1976 Olympics due to racist concerns and a standing beef with New Zealand over some of their sporting actions.

As for the 1996 nations cup. The Super Eagles wanted to participate but were prevented by Abacha due to a standing beef with Mandela as South Africa was hosting. It was not a decision taken by the Super Eagles themselves. Mind you that this resulted in a ban in the 1998 version.

Go and acquire knowledge first before coming for an argument.

They boycotted to protest against apartheid-era of South African government.

If the Athletes and footballers were not representing Nigeria under the government why didn’t they go represent Nigeria regardless of the government stance?

Why is this government bent on capturing someone protesting them from Nigerians and foreigners as the government made us to believe?

maidaboi:
add southern kaduna

I am sure of that too.

chrisooblog:
You have been educated that government is under the Nigerian state same as sport national teams.

Governments change it can be democracy tomorrow, dictatorship the next or monarchy the following week but the state always remains. It's the Nigerian state represented by the Nigerian people that give government legitimacy.

You need to come out of this old military mind set that your loyalty is to however happens to be president or governor at any given time. Your loyalty is to the Nigerian people who have given authority to the president to execute the constitution on their behalf.

Stop confusing yourself. I never said they are representing Buhari.

However, they are representing Nigeria under the government of Nigeria.

Can you please separate Falcon from the government?

What are the responsibilities of the government self?

Honestly, most people giraffe pass exams for school.

Why did Nigeria boycott Olympic and 1996 AFCON? Who stopped them?

Whose interest were they protecting?

Those educating me on this are olodo rabata.

do4luv14:
Man you got a problem, yet you don't know it,

You wan tryna use Ipob, and Omokri to support the man's action or what

Na God I take beg you oooo. I am only siting examples biko.

codemaniacs:
If you paid attention in University especially in Nigeria . There is a course called business law that teaches the basics of law to students not studying law..

When someone verbally abuses you it's called slander . When someone writes or types a document abusing another person it's called libel.

If someone charges at you or makes threatening hand signs towards you it can be termed threat to Life.

If someone presence makes you uncomfortable then you can charge the person with misdemeanors. Which is also part of the laws the ha:usa man broke.

These are general laws globally.

As you can can see yourself, when it is “you” that’s personally you are correct .....but it’s a different matter if it is a public holder or country representative.

I don’t know how to explain this again to you.

humility33:
Your thinking will never cease to amaze me

The nigeria state has the sovereign power.... it is supreme and not the government.

For a state like N. Korea supremacy rest on the leader/government

U need to understand basic politics

The government works for the state same way the super falcons are representing and working for the nigeria state.....

Which Nigeria state has the sovereignty power?

They are representing Nigeria. Finito

chrisooblog:
Then why do you keep insisting the players can be the focus of a protester because according to you they represent government?

Honestly, most of you are not informed.

Can you separate Falcons from Nigeria under whose wing they got their passports and visa?

humility33:
Lol...says a close confident of the Yar'Adua's family

U need to always back up claims of this kind with facts or relevant literatures other wise it is merely heresay or passersby opinion

I don’t tell you.

humility33:
cc: forgiveness humble self and admit he wrote true and facfs as regard this matter

He may be right or wrong depending on the laws of that particular country.

chrisooblog:
They are representing Nigeria which comprises not just the presidency but all 36 states and 774 local governments. They are not doing anything in the name of Buhari and APC. What the man in the video was ranting about is the policy of the buhari government not Nigeria as a whole period.

Did you see in my post stating they are representing Buhari?

codemaniacs:
It will be called slander when the ambassador decides to press charges. Yes he will be jailed. Threat to Life can also be used against him.

Ipob and omokiri inform police before they protest in any country and the protests are just a group of people carrying placards and not destroying public property so they can't be arrested or deported but I can assure you their pictures and data are in database somewhere in that country.

When do one needs to inform or get police approval to protest?

Countries laws varies. Can you please confirm if that is the case in Austria? Where it will be termed slander?

He didn’t damage anything. He only told them not to represent Nigeria.

JohnBullMySon:
Who is too used to Nigeria's setup?

You guys seem to have a misconception that outside the country, one is free to do anything. Very little things you get away with in Nigeria can quickly land you in trouble in most European countries. You can do anything you feel like in private but when it comes to the public space, the whole game changes. Even opening pornography in public can land you in trouble.

The girls are not politicians and have nothing to do with politics. Even with protests, you must inform the police 24 hours before any protest. Even if the rest of what he did was okay, the attack on the lady was clearly an abusive and insultive behavior. How does he intend to get away with that?

Why was( omokri abi wetin demcalll am)not arrested when he verbally assault Buhari in England?

Differentiate between personal assault and public protest.

As long as they are representing Nigeria as at the time of the so called assault, it might be viewed as protest.

They entered Austria with the intention to represent Nigeria and not for their personal interests.

codemaniacs:
it is a verbal assault..

learn to accept when you're wrong and another person's point of view and stop trying to discredit the other person just because you believe your opinion must be superior to the other person.. this is one of the reason's for the b:uhari's bad governance and the ha:usa man misplaced outburst..

Nigerians and a lot of people spend most of their time trying their best to discredit other people that they don't achieve anything useful.. imagine having such behaviour and also been a ji:hadist, religious and ethnic bi:gotry combined, such person will never achieve anything..

if you ever become a governor you'll spend your time in office discrediting, blaming and castigating the previous administration and also the people you govern..

Now let us look at it this way.

If that man verbally assault the ambassador of Nigeria in Austria, what will you call it?

Will he be jailed?

Ipob and omkri have protested at many embassies. What happened to them?

Look from a personal angle to a public and political angle.

JohnBullMySon:
How many times am I going to say here that NFF games have nothing to do with government. Nobody is representing government, can't you get that in your head?

Who are they representing?

Why don’t you gather players and let them represent Johnbullmyson international?

JohnBullMySon:
If you didn't see any abusive or insultive behavior in the video. Then you didn't watch the video.

You think freedom of speech means that anyone can walk up to someone and start to deliberately provoke them.

I said he used F words but it’s still not assault because he is protesting against the government.

Remember, they are on official duty representing the government that sponsored them and not on personal duty hence can’t be seen as an assault.

JohnBullMySon:
Endangering public peace and abusive behavior is still a criminal offence in Austria sorry.

Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour in a public
place
It is an offence to use threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour in a public place with the intention of breaching the peace. For example, if your words or actions are likely to cause a fight with the person you are insulting, or a group of youths is looking for trouble because of their threatening behaviour towards other people. If you are found guilty of this offence you can be liable to class D fine and to a prison sentence of up to 3 months.

You are too used to Nigeria’s setup. He argued he is protesting.

This is a political protest not personal. That’s why it can never be viewed as assault.

JohnBullMySon:
Endangering public peace and abusive behavior is still a criminal offence in Austria sorry.

Threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour in a public
place
It is an offence to use threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour in a public place with the intention of breaching the peace. For example, if your words or actions are likely to cause a fight with the person you are insulting, or a group of youths is looking for trouble because of their threatening behaviour towards other people. If you are found guilty of this offence you can be liable to class D fine and to a prison sentence of up to 3 months.

Is that applicable in Austria?


How did he threaten them? Though I heard F words.

Bascovanveli3:
He was wrong as hell and that was a punk move. This just proves some Nigerians love picking on the weak. Didn't the Super Eagles have a camp in Austria lately Where was my guy then? I guess Nigeria had a non evil government a couple months ago.


There is no athlete that puts on the green white and green and thinks "let me give it all for my government". They have families and communities that they are representing. They represent you and I.

Maybe for their own benefit!?