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chrisooblog:
yes the same game time Osimhen, Onyekuru and Nwaekeme were given? they didn't sit on their backside crying that they were not given enough game time. some of them went back improved in their clubs and got recalled.

there is no double standard i'm just giving you a taste your own medicine. when you were shining teeth some years ago because KC and Osimhen were going through a rough patch you used Solanke to mock them. now that the tables have turned you are getting uncomfortable.

for the record as much as I troll you about kayode ajagun and co i always wish them well unlike you that once you hear nwakali and iheanacho you vibrate.

Why this epistle? Just to prove Kayode was given a chance he wasn't? Why can't you admit you lied?

This one is not helping you it rather exposed your prejudice.

Edopesin:
Can you give the stats or not

14 goals and 7 assists in 2013.

Edopesin:

Calm down and check what you're typing before you post
Where did I say he didn't win the award as a Winger

I asked a simple question- "What stats did he have to justify that he deserved the Nigerian player of the year award" ?

Can you give the stats or not?

You mean Caf, NFF, BBC, Golden lion, Goal.com etc were all biased to had nominated him?

chrisooblog:
equal stats but Awaziem edges it with one assist. plus Nantes wanted to make Awaziem's transfer permanent correct me but I'm not sure Ilori was wanted permanently by Bordeaux

Lmao. With what you saw there, Awaziem still edged him. Ok

Now if it's equal stats, did Ilori still flopped in Ligue 1?

I have done that before. Not again.

chrisooblog:
musa did well in russia and holland yes saudi league is low level but won't use that to say (yet) he has lost it. happy you used the gnabry example flopping in EPL is not the end of the world.

still insist it's premature to call KC a flop in the EPL.

Kayode struggled in Spain and Ukraine but is finding his feet in Turkey. he was given good game time in the SE still needs to prove himself.

Umar yes struggled in scotland but how much game time was he given coupled with the fact that gerrard totally didn't rate him. again like the gnabry example you cited just because a coach doesn't rate you doesn't mean you can't turn the corner.

the bold is the reason I argue with you sometimes because of the fluid nature of football i can't declare someone as a categorical flop. Solanke could wake up on the right side of the bed tomorrow start bagging goals in the EPL. you can criticize a player when he's obviously not performing to expectations but when he starts doing better and turning the corner it would be unfair to the player to start doubting him based on passed performances. it will be like insisting thierry henry is a seria a when he later turned out to be one of the greatest players of his generation. so if people are happy and see encouragement in Iheanacho and nwakali's recent games let them be.

football is a funny game you can be a late boomer like drogba, vardy etc or progress naturally. it's all about improving your game.

Was given good game time with just 14 minutes, 19 minutes and 3 minutes? Take it easy.

Lmao at the bolded. But you just did that today. Double standards at play here.

chrisooblog:
your comparison is deceptive. why are you using la liga that fits your narrative and not ligue 1?

Ok. Now, see the Ligue 1 again.

Edopesin:
This doesn't even prove anything
The award was given to him out of discretion and not because he was exceptional. What is exceptional about scoring 2 goals both from the penalty spot for Nigeria and 1 League goal the whole season?

What stats did he have in 2013 to make him deserve the award?

You're just going in circles and at the end of the day his stats only show how piss poor he is as a winger

Bhuhahahaha! Your claim that he was won nigeriam player of the year as winger has just been busted. Now, it is at their discretion. Bhuhahahaha!

Do you think BBC, CAF, Goal.com, Golden lion, NFF just dash am at their discretion at the same time in 2013? Just chop your humble pie and move on.

chrisooblog:
i don't agree too

Good. Then why do you think Tiago Ilori flopped in Ligue 1 and Laliga when his rating was better than Chidozie?

Olulong:
Same way Osimhen Accolades shows he has had more impact every where he has played than Ighalo at just 21.

Heck Ighalo couldn't even make Segunda A or Championship or Seria b team of the season when he played there. He couldn't even win player of the season at any of his club.

EOD

Stop deceiving yourself. Osimhen is yet to attain Ighalo's level.

Ighalo is a legend in Granada.

Edopesin:
Moses won the 2018 footballer of the year while playing as a wingback, do you have a link to where he was named as the 2013 footballer of the year?

What next after this?

Olulong:
He didn't play so you can't compare.

Based on your logic Drogba never won Afcon Golden boot, does it make Ighalo better??

But Drogba has won better laurel than that. It's common sense to rate Drogba above Ighalo due to this reason.

The same way Ighalo's Afcon golden boot is far better than U17 golden boot. Simple.

Edopesin:
There's nothing to downplay

It's you guys that are overrating him my guy, Vicmo for SE was far from exceptional he was just there along with the rest

Why exactly do you think we need him ahead of the rest of our wingers?

Can you explain why he won Nigerian player of the year twice?

Olulong:
Did Yekini play any age grade competition??

He didn't. Since he didn't win. Can we conclude Osimhen is better?

Edopesin:
Was he productive as a winger in 2013 yes or no? No

With 1 league goal all season and only 2 penalty goals in the Afcon you are here saying he single handedly won us the trophy

Mikel still came out 2nd in the top 3 but you want us to believe that Moses was our best player at the tournament

If he wasn't why was he nominated for three prestigious African award playing as a winger?

Victor Moses was. The reason he won 2013 Nigerian footballer of the year. Have you forgotten?

chrisooblog:
that will be when you agree Vicmo was part of the failure of the 2017 qualifiers

I don't agree. Now do you agree or not?

Olulong:
Talk anoda thing

Ok he won it. Does it makes Osimhen better than Yekini because he didn't win it?

Danielnino00:
Forgiveness is just going around in circles just to prove that he hasn't lost the argument..

Everybody know that Moses as a winger was piss poor... He couldn't cut it at Chelsea as a winger.. He went to Liverpool,West Ham and Stoke city and wasn't impressive..

He was rotting on the bench until Conte decided to introduce his 3-4-3 system in which Moses was given a chance... Conte left Chelsea and he still wasn't deemed good enough for the wing role...

People saying Onyekuru,Simon,Kalu, Chukwueze,etc haven't achieved what Moses has achieved won't tell you that those players have better stats than Moses when he was at their age..
Onyekuru in particular almost has more career goals than Moses...
What exactly are we going to recall him back for?

I will rather have Ejuke,Saka and Dennis to provide competition for our current wingers...

At least, he was nominated for 2913 BBC player of the year, 2013 Afcon player of the year, 2013 Goal player of the year etc playing as a winger.

Why?

Edopesin:
??

I already told you why he was nominated in 2013 and we both know he wasn't nominated as a winger the second time

You have nothing else to say

The fact he was nominated as winger speaks alot. That's the fact you are trying hard to change but kolework.

Olulong:
Why didn't Ighalo to win it when he played age grade competitions for us??

Because Aguero didn't win it it makes Osimhen better than him, right?

chrisooblog:
Awaziem performances have gotten him into the SE while ilori's have gotten him into only your own fantasy

If only you accept Chidozie flop in Ligue 1 and Laliga.

Do you agree?

Olulong:
He played as a winger against croatia

You are right but he played the remaining matches as wing back.

Olulong:
didn't Ighalo also represent our youth teams why didn't he also win it??

So Osimhen U17 golden Ball pass Ighalo AFCON golden Ball, right?

Edopesin:
He was nominated in 2013 because of the Afcon not because he excelled at Chelsea na he had only one league goal in the whole season playing as a winger and you believe that's why he was nominated

Was that why BBC also nominated him that same year?

Olulong:
Indeed

Nominated! How come you don't understand that?

He was 2013 Nigeria footballer of the year and among the 5 shortlisted for 2013 BBc player of the year.

Which wing did he play?

mostob:
Bro..talking of recent matches, where was vicmo against Croatia? The whole team didn't turn up agreed. The little ball we got at the final third ,wetin vicmo use am do? That match vex me no be small. Vicmo,after his impressive showings at the qualifiers was our team's star going to the WC. Tournament start finish, dude was just falling over the place...playing big boy football.

He played as a wing back during the world cup.

Olulong:

So you are also ignorant about it. Okay oo.

Edopesin:
No be only Winger

That was the second time.

Edopesin:
Ehn ehn

Can you prove this

Which position did he play in 2013? Because that was the first time he was nominated.

charlesemeka85:
Sunday mba should be recalled also, atleast his goal won us the 2013 afcon

Is he still playing at the highest level like Victor Moses and Ighalo?

Edopesin:
He was nominated twice and made the shortlist only once and because he won the Premier League playing as a wing back not because he played as a Winger

Wrong! He was nominated at first as a winger.

Olulong:
Was Olanrewaju Kayode move to Man City a failure??

Who ask you put mouth for matter wey no consign you?

Olulong:
"This is just like saying cos Solanke is in Liverpool then he is better". - isn't that the basis of this argument. Forgiveness even said Osimhen will exchange his big transfer to Napoli for sitting on the bench at Man u.


"Pls Show me where that has happened for Onyekuru since Monaco?" - Pls what happened to Moses in his first four seasons at chelsea

Nobi lie na. Nigeria players will want a transfer to an average EPL team not to talk of Manchester United or big clubs therein.