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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:56pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:
What lie?
That's true. See the bolded below. A big fat lie.

Utonwanne:
Ramos has played as DM, is he a midfielder?

He didn't light up Super Lig, he was at most, average.

Playing for bigger club doesn't make one better.

Chuks is better than Moses. He should enjoy his retirement in peace
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:52pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:
Victor Moses is a has been, who plays in a position SE no longer uses and who has wingers doing better than him

I didn't bring up stats, you did and they were old and abysmal, he does not deserve to be brought up when discussing potential wingers for the SE
Was Onyekuru stats better than Vicmo in the just concluded 2018/2019 season? Yes or no?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:50pm On Aug 20, 2020
IDENNAA:
Bros , how can you comfortably bring up Victor Moses of yesterday when we are talking Onyekuru , Kalu ,Chukwueze and Ejuke. These guys will make VicMo look like an inferior on the ball
They should get to the level of Vicmo first.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:49pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:
Exceptional *claps* grin
That's right. Next time don't come lying.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:48pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:
In that first season he scored only 1 goal in 24 league matches this is mediocre, with the rest of his goals coming from Europa, community shield and CL

My point is that he is better defensively and that is why he was a starter under conte not because he contributes anything notable offensively
Was he even a first team player that year? Playing badly for Chelsea in his first and only season as a winger doesn't tantamount to being a bad winger in the premier League because we saw his performance before and after he left Chelsea in the same premier League.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:39pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:
Afcon and Europa are years ago and Victor Moses has retired from the national team and we have wingers doing better than him

We might as well call Okocha
You brought up stats to compare. What stats where you expecting when you mentioned Onyekuru who didn't do better than Victor Moses this season, huh?

Okocha is nologer player but Victor Moses is, at the highest level. wink
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:27pm On Aug 20, 2020
Utonwanne:
So he was extraordinary in Turkeyhuh
4 goals, one assist and 1 motm in 14 matches as a winger are what? Average?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:21pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:
Simon Moses?
Chidera Ejuke?
Chukwueze?
Onyekuru?
Nwakaeme?

Who does Victor Moses have a better stat than?
Oga! Victor Moses won Afcon and Europa as a crucial member of those teams. That stats is far better than the aforementioned players.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:20pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:
Rumour has it that Ighalo is coming back to the Super Eagles

I will like to see how Osimhen will bench Ighalo a proven striker
A very welcome development but make he no hands ooo. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:19pm On Aug 20, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
How the Super Eagles CB options could look like by latest 2021.

✔Leon Balogun
✔William Troost Ekong
✔Semilogo Ajayi
✔Chidozie Awaziem
✔Kenneth Omeruo
✔Felix Ohis Uduokhai
✔Jordan Torunarigha
✔Tosin Adarabioyo

**Possibility of Kevin Akpoguma.


Ask me nothing. wink
Hehehe! Na wa for you ooo. You just dey put man for suspense.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:16pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:
What now happened when he went to Chelsea? did somebody switch off his ability to cross the ball?

I'm not taking anything from him, he was part of our winning squad but he's offensive attributes were simply mediocre there is no way to sugar coat it

In the Premier League winning season he had only 2 assists in 34 matches despite his ability to cross with both feet and probably his head
He scored 10 goals and assisted 5 times in his first season as a winger. Is that mediocre?

In the winning season, he didn't play as a winger. In fact, his first season was the first and last time he played majorly as a winger. The other two seasons he played as a wing back before Sarri came.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:05pm On Aug 20, 2020
Utonwanne:
Ramos has played as DM, is he a midfielder?

He didn't light up Super Lig, he was at most, average.

Playing for bigger club doesn't make one better.

Chuks is better than Moses. He should enjoy his retirement in peace
Is Moses a winger or wing back?

You mean 4 goals, 1 assist and an Motm in 14 matches is average for a winger?

You have been sold a lie Moses was average in the Turkish league.

Chuks is a good player and a prospect. He is yet to reach Moses level.

When Chuks wins laurels for his club or national team then we can discuss.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:58pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:
We have wingers scoring goals and giving assists from the winger position how does Victor Moses enter into the equation?
Are they better than Zaha?

Moses also scored and gave assits this season and last.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:54pm On Aug 20, 2020
chrisooblog:
so Mikel, Emenike and Mba were frying akara during the 2013 AFCON abi lol
They were also crucial but we know Vicmo was the chief in command.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:52pm On Aug 20, 2020
elyte89:
U thinking what am thinking



Tammy is back grin grin!
Hahahaha! You wan cause trouble here. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:52pm On Aug 20, 2020
Edopesin:
You dropped a 3 minutes video that showed his successful attempts at it but if you followed his time with Chelsea he was terrible at crossing the ball to the extent that he only completed 20% of his 578 attempts

Moses as Wing back was only successful in the defensive aspect of it
Maybe you didn't watch Vicmo during his days at Wigan athletic before he went to Chelsea.

Don't forget, he was crucial to Chelsea winning the Europa as a winger. is that not being successful?

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:42pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:
How many months ago?
2019/2020 season.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:41pm On Aug 20, 2020
2lola:
How true is this saw it on a Facebook page

SWITZERLAND ��
FIFA is helping football players switch eligibility and represent a second national team with a planned rule change announced on Wednesday.

The proposal gives hope to players who are eligible for multiple countries but fell out of favor at their first national team, where they are bound after just a single minute of playing time in a competitive game.

The new wording would let players switch eligibility if they played a maximum of three times for the first national team — including tournament qualifying games — before they turned 21, and at least three years earlier.

The new rule will take effect next month if 211 national federations approve it at the September 18 congress that FIFA is hosting online from Zurich.

A FIFA working group has tried for more than two years to shape the new proposal.

A test case at the Court of Arbitration for Sport ahead of the 2018 World Cup is key background.

Munir El Haddadi, now with Europa League finalist Sevilla, wanted to be selected for Morocco but lost his appeal against the FIFA rules. He had played just once for Spain in September 2014, as a 77th-minute substitute in a European Championship qualifier.

The new rule would not help Brazil midfielder Oscar, who has suggested switching to China where he has played club soccer since 2017.

Oscar would fail the test because he has played more than three times for Brazil, including after he was aged 21, and at a World Cup finals tournament in 2014.

The proposal would bar nationality switches for anyone who played at a “final tournament of the FIFA World Cup or a final tournament of a confederation competition.”

FIFA’s new flexibility even suggests letting players revert back to their original national team if they never actually play for the second one.

The existing FIFA rules have been used by many players born in Europe - who played in national age-group teams or friendly games - and switched to African countries where they have ties through their parents or grandparents.

In more updating of eligibility rules, FIFA wants to clarify how long players must live in a country before they can play for its teams.

The proposal aims to help players who as children moved with their families to a new country for non-soccer reasons.

Three years residency would be required if a player moved before the age of 10, and five years residency if the move was aged 10 to 18.

FIFA’s existing rule already requires a five-year residency from the age of 18 if a player wants to acquire a new national eligibility.

That allowed Brazil-born forwards Elkeson and Aloisio to switch to the current China team after they were naturalized as citizens.

Via SportStar
Wow! This is a good one.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:34pm On Aug 20, 2020
Utonwanne:
Playing more as a defender??

He's not even better than himself, I mean his younger self. He's on decline, gradually wink
Which defender? He played as a winger in the 2018/2019 and 2019/2020 season in the Turkish league. Ain't you aware?

He played as an Amf in the seria A once this past season. Ain't you aware?

Here and now, he is still better.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:30pm On Aug 20, 2020
komekn:
The say a picture can say a thousand words and of so then what about a video.

Let's not be comedic, but how will a player playing Wing or Wing back and not be able to cross the ball in the EPL.

The video clips shows Victor crossing with both feet left and right foot crosses from the Wing. And that's in Seria A so it's very recent.

A very basic skill that our current wingers seem to struggle with.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MLJbVnpFA0
I chuckled when I read his comment. Very funny.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:29pm On Aug 20, 2020
Utonwanne:
Tried and tested is often exaggerated. When you don't deliver as expected, you are relegated.

Bale acts more as spectator while Rodrigo is running things

I can give you 1001 examples.
When and where did Vicmo not deliver?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:27pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:
Afcon of 2014 grin

Nawa o
It's not the question of the year, it's about his performance as a winger. Gbam

He was still our best player during the 2018 world cup qualifiers. Have you forgotten?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:23pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:
Which match?
In the Turkish league.

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:15pm On Aug 20, 2020
Utonwanne:
WING 100%

He whas sense and also, no credible competitor then.

Unfortunately, we are talking about here and now. Football is not all about age and experience, if so, Hart for still be Man City no. 1
Here and now, Victor Moses is still better than the wingers we have. Gbam
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:02pm On Aug 20, 2020
Utonwanne:
Moses as a winger is rubbish. Running and making fruitless dribbles
Take it easy. Where did Moses play when we won Afcon?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:58pm On Aug 20, 2020
Subzero047:
When was the last time Victor Moses played as a winger?
This season.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:49pm On Aug 20, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:
Neymar and Mbappe have EACH missed at least 2 big chances in their last two games.
That's true
Politics › Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by forgiveness: 12:47pm On Aug 20, 2020
obaaderemi:
grin Seriously, I don't care about the back and forth. Don't really have time for it but I see the losers trying to continue it on some other threads. If they want Nigerians to be interested in it, then it should be under the right and original title----
(Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-
Kayode)
Exactly! I agree with you. If they want us to participate, it's should be here not that clown's thread.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:20pm On Aug 20, 2020
do4luv14:
Wetin you see,

no think am ooo,, today you see something, tomorrow, they had oiled it, to fire it up,

thats what the Germans mechine are known for
Ok na. Let see what happens.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:18pm On Aug 20, 2020
Eizzy003:
Im telling you, Lyon really open Bayern yansh.
Bayern operate with a high defensive line, which PSG can easily exploit with the trio of Neymar, Mbappe and Icardi.
During yesterday's match, I guess twas the duo of Toko Ekambi and Delay that killed the match, cos on several occasion the Bayern defenders were caught off guard, and I think Nuer also contributed by coming out alot.
Mbappe go Kill them with speed while Neymar go kill them with footwork.
But I'll be supporting Bayern all the wa.
You have said it all. Lyon attackers were clueless once they reach the box. That can't happen with Neymar and Mbappe.

Anyway, I go decide on who to support when the game begins.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:12pm On Aug 20, 2020
nelszx:
I correct myself when wrong

There's no biggy there, we aren't dragging over anything

I must have quoted a wrong year to which I was corrected.
It's good you corrected yourself. That's a good one.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:10pm On Aug 20, 2020
barackodam:
Almost 3 people here lauded Adamu for his hattrick against Lyon, but not a single person said that Karim Adeyemi was responsible for 2 of those goals.

Salzburg U19 won 4 - 3, and all the goals were scored by Nigerians...

Chibuike Adamu, 3 goals, striker, Austrian
Karim Adeyemi, 2 assists, striker, German
Bryan Okoh, 1 goal, defender, Swiss
That's a good one. They are not playing for the main team.

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