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Utonwanne:
So that's extraordinary by your standard?

Above average for a winger.

Danielnino00:
If at all anybody singlehandedly won us that AFCON, it was Emenike..

His goals against Zambia and Burkina Faso gave us the chance of qualifying out of the group.... without those 2 goals, Moses's penalty goals against Ethiopia would have counted for nothing....

Emenike goals against Zambia and Burkina Faso gave us two points while Vicmo 2 goals gave us 3 points. How about that?

Edopesin:
The point is that he doesn't offer anything as a Winger

shuu make I type am for Igbo again

Can you explain how he then managed to offer us AFCON cup playing as a winger?

IDENNAA:
Please , he didnt singlehandedly win the Nations cup. He was not even our highest goal scorer. Idehen , Mikel ,,Mba and,Emenike were at their best

Okay

daveP:
Can Onyekuru dorn the armor of VicMo's Contributions to the SE? No!!

Dude is even yet to break into the XI of SE.

Chuks is just starting and is on a good track.

For SE level, VicMo annoyed us with his selfishness...He was a threat to oppositions. Sometimes we watched stupid flow in attack and wished for yhe intro of VicMo and he didnt disappoint. We havr done just that for Chuks at yhe last afcon, but no Onyekuru...

When both have a steady flow in their Club's XI for seasons, then we can compare.

Gbam

Edopesin:

Debunked how?



If he was as good as you're pointing him out to be his position wouldn't have been changed don't you think

He could have gone because we saw Mikel go to Chelsea.

However, life is all about opportunity. He got his and utilized it.

The point is Victor Moses is better than the wingers we have for now.

elunico:
Ever since Moses left Wigan as an average player. Left for Chelsea where he was passed around like someone infected with disease until Conte came to save him, He only got to Inter not because he's got anything extraordinary to offer the team, but for the connection with Conte.

From Liverpool
Stoke
West Ham
Fernabache, what were his stats at these clubs to prove he has been tested and proven for a decade.

I will prefer a player that singlehandedly won Afcon, Europa and Epl over a prospect.

Olulong:
We don't know

Why has he not moved??

You have the liberty to Google.

Edopesin:
Just give me the Wikipedia link instead of this copy and paste na

With that said, Why didn't he replicate this form when he was older? if he is that good a winger then 7 league goals season should not be a problem don't you think?

And to answer your question, If he started his career in Nigeria and eventually gets the attention of European scouts, he wouldn't go straight away to the Premier League but to a team where he would have been tested as a Winger since that's the reason he was signed but we both know how it would turn out

Is that not privilege enough

Which Wikipedia? I knew he scored 100 goals as a young boy. I can still remember he scored overhead kick in the championship.

Victor Moses started out as a striker. So, all those things you wrote don't add up.


Your claim that he was privilege because of.....has been debunked. Fact

kellycute:
but they are retired Naija players. Do you want us to beg them to return from retirement?

Nobody is begging but if they come back from retirement I will welcome them back with an open hands.

Edopesin:
So which big team has he gone to now?

That's the same way we hear big teams like Liverpool, Atletico, Valencia and even Barcelona want Chukwueze isn't it?

Haba! As if you don't know why Zaha is yet to move. You should know better.

elyte89:
Anyone saying a player plying his trade @ intermilan or Manchester united(both elite clubs) is not good/not useful for super eagles present team is only been insincere to himself ..EOD

You dey mind those people.

Edopesin:
This is why I said this



Victor Moses was only Privileged to be in the English football system because he is mediocre in the position he claims is his natural that's why Conte turned him into a defensive player because he contributes literally nothing going forward

Onyekuru's dribbles are productive as we've seen with Onyekuru and unlike Moses that only dribbles to throw in or goal kick.

I followed Moses from when he was 14 years old and that when was he came into limelight after he scored 50 goals for Crystal palace U14 team. He later went on to score 100 goals for the same side in 3 years and won laurels for the team singlehandedly.

Due to his performance over 3 years, Crystal palace promoted him to the first team eventhough he was just 16 year old and he didn't disappoint.

That season, after he got promoted to the team, he played consistently and was part of crystal palace team that lost in the playoffs to the EPL.


Can you now explain how he was privilege to be in the English system?

He worked for it.

chrisooblog:
which provided assist? shot that cannoned of a burkinabe defender and fell to mba's path

moses did well but he wasn't our most important. he was one among many that contributed to our AFCON success

Na still assist. He was the most important player in that team.

Edopesin:
Are you serious?
I don't think you watched Onyekuru while he was playing for galatasaray.
What attribute does Zaha have that makes him a better player than onyekuru is?

What stopped Onyekuru from doing well in Ligue 1?

The fact that big team wants Zaha proves the attributes are there.

Edopesin:
So Onyekuru and Chukwueze were not very good when they were young abi

That was in response to your second paragraph.

Now let me address the first. Let the aforementioned players win Afcon, EPL (or any of the top 5 leagues) and Europa first before they can be better than Vic Moses.

How about that?

Philosopher1979:
In my opinion, i prefer Victor Osimhen. Osimhen is more mobile and agile and his off
the ball work is better. He is also more involved in build up.
Ighalo cannot function without a midfield while Osimhen can still function without a midfield
Osimhen's pressing is also better (Check out his goal against Valencia. It was not even a pass from his player but a wrong pass from the opposing team).
Most coaches will prefer Osimhen because of his hard working all action style.
Ighalo is still a good player though

Off the ball move is Ighalo speciality. Well both will improve our team and that is the koko

lloydtruth:
So we are waiting.

That's my gee.

Edopesin:
let Vicmo score 7 league goals in a season before we can say that he is better than the rest

You think if Vicmo was a Nigerian player first before he featured for any English youth team, you think he would have gotten to the level he is?

Victor Moses was very good when he was young. Maybe you were not aware.

Edopesin:
Victor Moses that has never scored 7 league goals a season in any top flight league after almost 10 years

Truth is only Conte rates him because he fits in in his style of play, when his loan deal expires at the end of the month (31 Aug) and he doesn't get another extension, no top team will go for him

Lampard wants him back. Haven't you heard? Though still a rumour.

Subzero047:
Have you seen Joelinton stats, is Aguero better than him?

Aguero is currently playing at the highest level can that be said of Joelinton?

The last time I checked, Onyekuru struggled in Ligue 1.

Olulong:
Moses has not been at the highest level since his time at Chelsea under Conte. Look at onyekuru stats and Victor moses stats for the last two seasons. Onyekuru was clearly and by far better than him even tho they were in the same league two seasons ago. Last season even tho Onyekuru struggled, Moses stat wasn't even clearly better than his

1st Pic Onyekuru for last season
2nd Pic Moses for last season

3rd Pic Onyekuru for 2018/2019
Last pic Moses for 2018/2019

You chose only Onyekuru(who has stopped getting Call up because of his struggles last season) of all the names listed because he was the one Moses had better stats than last season.

What of Ejuke, Nwakaeme,Simon and Chukwueze

Did Onyekuru win the Afcon, Europa and any of the top five leagues? If not, he is yet to play at the highest level but Vicmo has done these.

Don't forget Vicmo is going to play in the Europa League.

Either way, throughout their football career and last season, Vicmo was better.

chrisooblog:
chief in command based on what? did he have the most goals? no. most assists? no so what stands him out as chief in command? please enlighten me

Against Ethiopia we were at the verge of bowing out of the competition but the individual brilliance of Vicmo won us the match after he won two penalties and scored by himself. Can you remember?

Against Cote d'Ivoire he did well.

Against Mali in the semi final, his individual brilliance recked the Malian defence and led to an assist for the first goal.

In the finals, he provided the assist that led to the goal.

As you can see, he was involved in all the games.

kellycute:
it is a fallacy bro. He couldn't even score one goal in epl and moreover, the coach don't have confidence in him.

No wahala. I no bi God.

Edopesin:
He is not good enough as winger with only 16 goals in 113 matches
Check out Onyekuru's stats as a winger and he is just 23, Moses just doesn't have the stats to prove that he is a good winger

Have you seen Zaha's stats? His Onyekuru better than him?

Olulong:
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Hit the ground running in training or on the bench??

Hahahaha! No condition is permanent. His situation might change next season.

Subzero047:
Ok he was one, what about the others?

Let us resort to independent ratings.

IDENNAA:
His contributions were very minor. I have watched him at Chelsea with his almost always fruitless incursions into opponents 18yrd box. We dont need him , we have better talents

He was crucial to Chelsea winning the Europa.

Subzero047:
4 goals and 1 assist in Turkish league is what? the guy was being generous

In 14 matches. Add that to it.

IDENNAA:
Well , "crucial" is very subjective. He was not a super contributor in the quest, just an average inclusion added to do dirty work for the main players.

Your personal opinion doesn't matter.

kellycute:
it will be too hard for rohr to bench Osimhen especially if Osimhen hit the ground running in Napoli. Big headache for rohr

What about if Ighalo hit the ground running with Manchester United? What do you think?

Subzero047:
Onyekuru was basically having career problems throughout for the whole of last season

If you want to compare, compare with Simon Moses, Chukwueze, Ejuke, Nwakaeme and others

But you wanted to make me believe he was better this season. Maka why?

Subzero047:
Simon Moses?
Chidera Ejuke?
Chukwueze?
Onyekuru?
Nwakaeme?

Who does Victor Moses have a better stat than?