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comodo:
He also forgot that while Vic was struggling, Onyekuru was hitting it big in the same league. That Vic was lucky to get into Inter doesnt mean that he is the best in that position as per SE.

Which Victor Moses was struggling? That is not true.

jihday:
I think the purpose of arguing on this platform is to learn and not to win. You said he didn't play they told you he played both legs against Egypt with video evidence sef but you chose to believe he was not part of the team just so that you can continue your 'we no fit loose if Moses play' agenda.

When did I write Victor Moses didn't play against Egypt?

You don't need to rush to make comment. Have a comprehensive understanding before you make comment.

chrisooblog:
on the bold there is no conspiracy theory or unanswered question of any kind. Vicmo is a grown man who has decided to retire. let's respect him and move on. as far as I know before his retirement people were not clamoring for him to be dropped whether from fans, NFF or technical crew.

on the second bold that is debatable. You can not compare someone who had a 6 year run in the national team with people like Chukwueze and Samuel Kalu who are just starting out with the SE. sorry you can't turn around and now be using Inter Milan while conveniently ignoring how he struggled at Fenerbache.

for the record[b] if Vicmo wants to come back i would welcome it based on his experience [/b] and ability especially in the right wing back role.

What are we talking about again if you agree to the second bolded? That's the point here.


Now, who told you Vicmo struggled in Fenerbache? Not true.

chrisooblog:
start watching from 52:20


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De2Bro07pOg

This video didn't justify your earlier claim that he missed the chance to score to make it two zero hence should be blamed. Far far from it.

Victor Moses was denied the chance to score by the Egyptian defender after he cleared the ball from entering the post.

In fact, I will give Vicmo pass mark for his movement, speed and timing at which he disposed the rushing keeper and how he placed the ball rolling towards the net. Even Ronaldo and Messi can't do more than that.


I will conclude Vicmo was not part of that team failed to qualify for the 2015 and 2017 Africa cup of Nations.

chrisooblog:
in the first leg Vicmo had a chance to score to make it 2-0 from an iwobi assist so he's as much to blame for our non qualification as the rest of the other players

2lola:
Highlights of Tolu Arokodare's statement on his dispute with his club


1. I knew about Vameira declining an offer for me before the match against Sparta where I scored 2 goals
2. Anderlecht offered a Latvian record fee for me, one million euros
3. I offered to stay until the end of the Latvian season before joining Anderlecht in November, but my club have refused all of this
4. I will refuse any other offers that come for me, I only want to move to Anderlecht

The club is not helping matters

Why did they refuse one million euros eventhough the boy don agree to stay till the end of the season? I don't understand.

soetanoreoluwa:
Why will you choose Ighalo over Victor?

Well, I will have both in my team. Tactics and the opponent will now depend on who to pick ahead of who.

We can't put our heads in one basket.

Philosopher1979:
Musa was our besy player in 2018 world cup. He was the only thing we had in attack against Argentina

Abeg, help me tell Idennaa.

chrisooblog:
in the first leg Vicmo had a chance to score to make it 2-0 from an iwobi assist so he's as much to blame for our non qualification as the rest of the other players

Which assist? Can you show the video? What minutes of the game? I want to rewatch.

Can someone show me the video?

IDENNAA:
I meant the last world cup in Russia not any gaddem AFCON. Musa was ineffectual so was Iwobi , Moses , Iheanacho , Ighalo.

Musa and Moses were ineffective!? Really!?

TheGoodJoe:
Are we ready for another Victor Moses drama? I say we let him go. He has done his bit but I doubt his devotion will be there.

I think our real setback is that we have not yet developed sufficiently as an offensive unit. So we rely on individual performances to see us through tight moments. Rohr should emphasise on pushing the team forward offensively. Rohr should try now. Tuchel, Nagelsmann, Flick, Klopp and some other offensive tactical gems of the moment are Germans.

PSG won due to individual brilliance. Hence, individual brilliance can't be thrown aside.

Abi you wan tell me say if Aguero was in that team, Man city will loose. I don't think so.

IDENNAA:
Cc..

You tell me

I showed you Onomah and Ajagun's profile.

chrisooblog:
he was. he played in the match against egypt home and away in 2016 that led to our failure to qualify for the 2017 AFCON

He was benched in the first leg though he later played for 18 minutes. That was after things don dabaru finish. Vicmo can't be blamed.

BascoVanVeli:
I believe he was. At least I remember him missing the sitter against Egypt in kaduna, I think that was 2017.

Moses has retired na. The argument shouldn't even exist.

He was not part of that team throughout the whole 2015 qualifications under the marking manager Keshi and from the beginning of the 2017 Africa cup of Nations qualifications under Siasia until that crucial matches against Egypt when eyes don open say we were at the verge of not qualifying for the nations cup for the second time.

He was even benched until the last 18 minutes against Egypt in the first leg. That was after things don dabaru finish. He played the second leg though. So, he was not part of that 2017 team. Mbanu.

Edopesin:
Mikel with all his experience was playing okoto meow in Afcon
If they don't want to be criticised they should stay retired. Players full ground like sand

Lmao. I think I have heard that sound before.

[quote author=IDENNAA post=92973023][/quote]It depends on what you feel. Who is this second player?

[quote author=IDENNAA post=92973023][/quote]Really!?

Who is this?

Danielnino00:
Why don't you check his social media pages?

Did you see the comments where people threatened to kill Ighalo?

Why don't you ask Ighalo yourself?



"They said a lot of things. To my innocent kids, to my wife, even to the extent they threatened my life and the life of my family," Odion Ighalo told ESPN in October 2018.

Danielnino00:
Moses can't be caged against Algeria?

Wasn't Moses part of the team that failed to qualify for the 2015 and 2017 AFCON?
Wasn't Moses caged at the two world cup he played for us?
Abeg talk better thing...

If Ighalo being highest goalscorer at the AFCON I enough reason to recall him,then let's recall Emenike too..

There's no kind of experience Moses and Ighalo have that we can't get from our present set of players....

Victor Moses was not part of the team that failed to qualify for 2015 and 2017 African cup of Nations. You just like making comments without getting your facts.

Is Emenike still playing at the highest level? I don't know why common sense can't prevail in small things like this.

I repeat Victor Moses and Ighalo have the experience to add to the team. Fact

Edopesin:
Bros na normal football things be that

Okay na

Danielnino00:
Except that there are no facts here..

It's your own opinion too...

Is it my opinion that Ighalo has more experience than the strikers we have?

Danielnino00:
Which Europe?

Abeg,check Iwobi social media pages...tell me how many fans posting stuffs on that page have been arrested yet

Did they threaten to kill him?

jihday:
This isn't true. Ighalo left because the trip from China is always difficult, the moment he joined Man Utd he said he could still change his mind about playing for us. According to report, Moses retired because he want to focus on club football and spend more time with his family

I hear.

Danielnino00:
All these things you are saying still doesn't change the fact that Ighalo has no kind of "experience" the super eagles currently needs..
If he should return to the team,he will sit on the bench for Osimhen..the same way Iheanacho sat on the bench for him...

Unless Rohr dy craze...

Your opinion but facts don't lie.

jihday:
How many have been caught?

Of course I am not talking about Nigeria or Africa, I was talking about Europe. Don't tell me you don't know.

Edopesin:
Messi nko, Higuain nko
These guy's have suffered far worse criticism from argentines but still play for their national team. Messi was literally booed by his own fans in a competitive match

Emotions will always get the better of fans when they don't see results

There's too much hate. Forget

Danielnino00:
Most people only make noise on social media,but that so shit in real life..

Ighalo was in Nigeria after that world cup, how many people went to attack him at his house and carry out their threats?
I'm sure he visited Ajegunle during that period too... Did the stone him?

Yakubu that received a lot of death threats after his world cup miss, has he been killed ??

Nigerians have mad love for football and can lose their cool when results go against their teams...it's normal...

Not everybody can take that especially when your family is threatened.

jihday:
Yes it is, you hear fans do the monkey chant for players but they still stay with the club

It's not part of it because if you are caught you will be charged to court.

Edopesin:
Lmao ISIS literally threatened Messi and Ronaldo but they still played in the world cup
Though I'm not saying these threats are a norm but they do happen and all professional players should know this

They are no fans but Ighalo country men and fans threatened his life.

Danielnino00:
Balogun was disposed because he was not active at club level.. surely,you didn't expect us to be using a bench warmer when we have more capable players available..

If Ighalo ran because or criticism,then he is a coward because getting criticised is very normal for footballers.. As for Moses, we all know he was not really committed to the national team..
Iheanacho is still part of the team... he just lost his starting shirt, nothing more.

That being said, I don't see the kind of experience the aforementioned players have that we are missing in the super eagles...
We still have players like Ekong,Musa,Ndidi,Etebo and Iwobi who have been part of the team for long and played at 2 major tournaments plus their experience from playing at their club levels..


We are very much alright and can do without the "old players"..

You don't see the experience the aforementioned players have. How come Algeria caged us during the African cup of Nations?

Do you think Victor Moses can be caged like that?

Don't forget Ighalo was the highest goalscorer in the African cup of Nations. He left because people threatened to kill him.

People claimed Vicmo but he was always available for crucial matches and made the difference. I don't know what you are talking about.

IDENNAA:
Has he been playing and did he come out and denounce England ??

That's what I heard here. I don't know anything.

ChrisKels:
Ode see as u give me assignment unnecessarily due to your carelessness. Oboy dun goggle tire

Chaiiiii! I for leave make you continue.

Edopesin:
Chai how many times we wan get this argument for this thread, Being criticised unnecessarily is part of the game and Ighalo/Victor Moses are far from being above criticism by fans. If that's the reason they retired they should stay that way

As for Musa, I'm only in support of his inclusion in our squad because of his experience in the world stage that cannot be overstated. I don't know the switch that turns on in his head during the World cup

So, threatening someone's life na part of football? Okay na.

Na money turn the switch.