₦airaland Forum

mystery22:
since how Yoruba's are claiming itshekiris. Attachee by force,Fulani's are busying taking your land and putting an emir as the head and you are Here claiming Yoruba is in delta state,clowns,go develop Ogun state,cos ritualist is an occupation in Ogun state...any day federal government decides to build int'l airport standard and seaport like the one they built in Lagos,Lagos will stop functioning...

Lagos was functioning before British came to Nigeria and Lagos Money was used to develop Nigeria.

Nigeria has 5 International airports and seaports yet Lagos is still functioning.

Itsekiris are claiming Yoruba. Don't cry.

darfay:
U joke too much

Na true yan be dat.

darfay:
Tell that to your emir of illorin, the lost Yoruba town

Why Fulani no sign with British so tey Yoruba man sign?

Nowenuse:
You are just being a clown right now.
I am not in the mood for trolling. Bye.

Which clown? If Nigeria separates, Warri will go with Itsekiris. Finito.

darfay:
If don born you well enter warri talk this trash

Warri wey OPC boys don take over.

You hear Ijaw make noise again?

Sunshineg5:
Abi you see the boy

He thinks he can bobo anybody here

Atta never said Igala are Yorubas.

He said the Yorubas and Igala might have being one single ethnic group a long time ago.

He is lying.

darfay:
No Yoruba in Delta State

Yes! according to DARFAY.

darfay:
Take back illorin first from Fulani

Which Fulani take Ilori?

Why didn't Fulani sign to on behalf of Ilorin when British took over? Why did a Yoruba man sign?

Sunshineg5:
The low IQ idiot thinks pulling statistics straight from his arse is what is called intelligence

The hateful little twit actually thinks he is better than everyone.

He thinks being hateful and full of bitter emotions would save his people from the slutter house in the hands of their Fulani over lord.

He even once said UI is not the first university in Nigeria.

Pathetic!

We dealt with him with facts befor and he ran away till today. I know how to catch the guy. Like you said, He thinks he is better than everyone.

darfay:
All this one because of oyel nawa o

Which oil Olukumi get?

Nowenuse:
Sorry I forgot to post it.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/05/igbo-yoruba-affinity-ifa-oracle-is-the-connecting-link-of-original-nigerians-attah-of-igala/amp/

Cc forgiveness

Nothing to prove anything here.

Nowenuse:
There is no town in Delta state that is indigenously Ilaje. If there is pls mention that town.

Ilajes are settlers in Delta state.

Olukumis are of Yoruba origin, but they are surrounded by Igbo settlements and have been heavily Igbonized. They now identify as Enuani, Anioma or Delta Igbos and not Yoruba.
Infact, the time Olukumis left the west, there was nothing like pan Yoruba identity at that time.

Itsekiris have not come out to officially tell the world that they are Yorubas.
Go to Warri and address Itsekiris as Yorubas (95% of them reject it).

Olukumis don't identify as Enuani, Anomia or Delta Igbo. Stop lying.

Abi you sabi pass de king?


“We are a Yoruba speaking community and the name of our language is Oloku mi,” she disclosed. [/b]Finally the king, H.R.M. Ayo Isinyemeze, the Oloza (Obi) of Ugbodu, met the desire of the writer. The youthful looking, handsome royal father explained. According to the monarch who is also the chairman of the Traditional Rulers Council in Aniocha North, the Ugbodu Oluku mi speaking people migrated from Owo/Akure axis in the current day Ondo State between 9th and 11th Century AD to settle down in Benin during the reign of King Ogiso of Benin.My children all bear Oluku mi names. I think there is renaissance, an effort of going back to our roots.

So, most of the children being born these days are named Oloku mi names.

According to Adebowale: “The real Oluku mi is like the Yoruba that is spoken in Owo in Ondo State. Someone from that place is expected to understand the language perfectly. I am an Oluku mi man and I am proud of my language.

https://ukpuru.tumblr.com/post/115435435597/far-from-home-yoruba-community-makes-home-in

Nowenuse:
There is no town in Delta state that is indigenously Ilaje. If there is pls mention that town.

Ilajes are settlers in Delta state.

Olukumis are of Yoruba origin, but they are surrounded by Igbo settlements and have been heavily Igbonized. They now identify as Enuani, Anioma or Delta Igbos and not Yoruba.
Infact, the time Olukumis left the west, there was nothing like pan Yoruba identity at that time.

Itsekiris have not come out to officially tell the world that they are Yorubas.
Go to Warri and address Itsekiris as Yorubas (95% of them reject it).

What were the Itsekiri leaders doing openly in a Yoruba Conference if they have not come out to officially tell the world they are Yorubas?


Yoruba leaders endorse agenda for conference
February 28, 2014
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Yoruba leaders, groups and traditional rulers converged yesterday in Ibadan, the Oyo State capital and ratified the agenda to be presented at the National Conference.

They unanimously took a hard stance against any delegate of Yoruba extraction who advocates positions contrary to the popular agenda.

The ratification took place at the Grand Yoruba Summit held at the House of Chiefs in the Parliament Building of the Oyo State House of Assembly.



The summit was organised by the Yoruba Agenda Committee, chaired by Chief Olu Falae.

Gen. Alani Akinrinade (rtd) is the committee’s vice-chairman. The secretary is Dr. Kunle Olajide.

Leaders of thought from Edo, Kogi and Kwara states attended the summit. The Itsekiri in Delta State were represented by a delegation, led by Mrs. Rita Lori Ogbebor.

They took their turns to voice their concern for the Yoruba nation in Nigeria and endorsed the 15-page document.


https://thenationonlineng.net/yoruba-leaders-endorse-agenda-for-conference/

Plus10:
Are you high...which court?

SUPREME COURT OF NIGERIA.

Sunshineg5:
His evidence is a newspaper article where every monarch was trying to claim superiority over the other.

I thought we will see solid Empirical evidence to back his claims.

You got wait tire. Na Nairaland evidence em get. kkkkk

Nowenuse:
Itsekiris won ownership of Agbassa land but lost that of Okere-Urhobo

Besides, can the Itsekiris go and chase the Urhobos out of Agbassa land?

Do u know Warri well? Pls list the parts of Warri urban that are Itsekiri dominated or Itsekiri controlled.

Itsekiris can never take Warri. It can never happen.

The whole wide world knows Warri belongs to Itshekiris just like Bakassi belongs to Cameroun.

Pray Nigeria remains one else Agbassa and all the lands taken by force by Ijaws will be taken without firing a bullet just like Bakassi was taken without a bullet but if dem want dem fit challenge world court.

Sunshineg5:
The "very smart boy" will never give any solid proof outside some questionable studies, if he has any.

He knows everything about Nigeria simply because he came from jos and lived in among Igbos who taught him how to hate.

To him, the nonsense he wrote about conquest of Ishekiris and Igala without any documented evidence is sufficient empirical evidence.

Hence, anyone that questions him becomes dumb.

He does not have any cogent evident to back up his malicious fallacy. Yes. It remains fallacy until he proves me wrong.

Nowenuse:
I didn't run away from that thread.
The mods placed an automatic ban on that thread and I was banned for every post I made.

I will create a thread concerning all this tomorrow. For now, let us leave this thread for Urhobos & Aniomas (Deltans).

Delta state is my home away from home since I was born and bred there.

Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahhaha! YOU FLED BIG TIME AFTER BEATEN BLUE BLACK.

Nowenuse:
You and forgiveness should read what the Attah of Igala land had to say about IFA.

You can clearly see where he said Igalas are Yorubas with Kwararafan influences.

Abeg, I don't want this thread to be derailed with Yoruba issues.
I think I will open another thread for this issue.

Igbos & Yorubas must not project their insecurities into every single minorities thread. This thread is not for SW Yorubas & SE Igbos.

Show me the link where Ata of Igala said so? I know you very well. You would have displayed proof here if you have any.

Nowenuse:
Cc forgiveness

Did I dispute Igala languague is similar to Yoruba?

Can you proof Igala are from Yoruba? Who was there forefathers?

Nowenuse:
First of all, what is Yoruba?

Was Yoruba existing as an ethnic group outside Oyo 150 years ago?

Did Ijebus, Egbas, Okuns, Ekitis, Ijeshas, Ikales, Aworis e.t.c identify themselves as Yorubas in pre-colonial times? Hell no they didn't.

All the Yoruba speaking tribes were merged together under the Yoruba umbrella by the British colonial masters.


Igalas speak a Yoruba based language or Yoruboid language just like the Itsekiris (according to linguists). Google is your friend.

Igalas were neighbors to Yoruba speaking Okun people until Ebiras came and put them asunder.

Just like Okun, Igalas were a Yoruba speaking people. And shared boundary with other Yoruba speakers before Kwararafan colonization came.

Can you please show me proof that Igala are Yoruba or decendants of any village or people called Yoruba? I no like too much story. Thanks.

Nowenuse:
The Olu of Warri is not in total control of Warri.

The whole of Warri belongs to Itshekiri. The case has been won in court. Sapele was won by Uhrobo.

Nwanyiogwashi:
I will soon slap you from here

Oya na.....

Nowenuse:
You are very silly. I don't want us to detail this Anioma Urhobo thread with the usual Yoruba-Igbo nonsense.

Anyway, nobody is trying to attach Igalas to you.
Igalas were Yoruba people who were colonized by the Kwararafan empire (Jukuns).

Was I among the linguists who classified Igala as a Yoruboid language?

Can you please show me proof Igala were Yoruba people?

Nowenuse:
You and Tobrasky think I am a Yoruba hater, you guys are not serious.

Wait oo, you are saying Itsekiris never wanted to leave the Western region, did those who voted LEAVE not win in Warri divisions?
I used to have that poll result somewhere and I think pro Midwest voters won in Warri division.

Itsekiris killed Ijaws too in that Warri crisis.
Ijaws fight with almost everyone over land. Ikwerres, Ogonis, Binis and even Ilajes. Are Ilajes not in the SW?

You don't appear very smart to me. (Sorry).

Can you please show me the poll result? don't run away like you did the other day when we had Jos vs Ibadan debat.

Nwanyiogwashi:
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Bloody liar. Olukumi, Itshekiri and Ilaje are Yorubas in Delta State.

Bloody liar. Ilaje are Yorubas and they never denied it FOR ONCE. [/s] No Yoruba people in Delta state

NO IGBO PEOPLE IN DELTA STATE.

UHROBOS ARE THE LARGEST ETHNIC GROUP IN DELTA STATE. FACT.

ANIOMA IS NOT AN ETHNIC GROUP BUT A CONGLOMERATION OF EDO, YORUBA, IGALA AND IGBO PEOPLE.

Owologbo:
there's no Yoruba in Delta State.
Even the ilaje that are in Ondo State will tell you they are not Yoruba (make your research).

Bloody liar. Olukumi, Itshekiri and Ilaje are Yorubas in Delta State.

Bloody liar. Ilaje are Yorubas and they never denied it FOR ONCE.

darfay:
Please stay out of this thread
It's about Anioma and urhobo.

Create a thread for your Yoruba itsekiri nonsense. Nobody cares especially not here

My bloodline are Uhrobo/Yoruba.

This a public forum and as long as it remains so, anything debunk-able MUST be debunked. EOD

darfay:
Please stay out of this thread
It's about Anioma and urhobo.

Create a thread for your Yoruba itsekiri nonsense. Nobody cares especially not here

My bloodline are Uhrobo/Yoruba.

Nwanyiogwashi:
No Yoruba in Delta state Mr man

Yes! By ONLY NWANYIOGWASHI.



ITSEKIRI IS YORUBA- Papa Ayo Oritsejafor
- December 15, 2019



Ayodele Joseph Oritsegbubemi Oritsejafor, fondly called Papa Ayo Oritsejafor by many of his numerous admirers is the founding and Senior Pastor of Word of Life Bible Church, located in Warri, Nigeria. He became the national president of the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria (PFN) on the 7TH February 2005, a position he held for five years.. He was elected President of CAN, Christian Association of Nigeria. As a result of this, he became the first Pentecostal leader to hold the two positions simultaneously. He is married to Hellen Oritsejafor and they are blessed with many children in the Lord. In this interview, he speaks about the history of Itsekiri people and other topics:

· what would you say is unique about the Itsekiri people of Warri kingdom?


First of all, it is very important to establish the fact that Christianity started in Nigeria in Warri kingdom. It is what the average Itsekiri man or woman knows but they don’t talk about it. One of the reasons they don’t talk about it is a lack of spirituality. The first church that was built in Nigeria was not in Abeokuta, Badagry or anywhere. It was built here in the 16th century. The ruins of it are still here.
The first Christian missionary that came here was the Roman Catholic. In fact, the first contact with a white man was here. The Itsekiri people are the first contact with the white man in Nigeria.
By the way, the second thing that many people in Itsekiri may not elaborate on is that Itsekiri is Yoruba. The Itsekiri language is a dialect of the Yoruba language. Itsekiri people migrated from Yorubaland. Some of them migrated directly from Ife. Some migrated from the riverine areas of Ijebu, and some migrated from Ondo. Some of them especially the ones that migrated from Ife, they migrated with the Ilaje.

The Ilaje stopped at a point but the Itsekiri continued and they ended up here in Warri.
Now, a few of them came from Benin Kingdom. The Benin connection came from the palace. The palace connection is still Yoruba at the end of the day because the first Oba of Benin was a son of Oduduwa.


The first Olu of Warri was a first son of the Oba of Benin. That’s the Benin connection. The Itsekiri, when they moved here, they came with their Ife. The upland Yoruba called it Ifa. We are the waterside Yoruba. Our people will call the other Yoruba, Iroke. They called the Oyo people Iroke and other Yoruba Iroke but the Yoruba called them Ara Oke. This history is very important because they are dying away. In those days, the Ife which the mainstream Yoruba will call Ifa was the god of divination. The Ife had told the Itsekiri people that a prince would come and become their king. Therefore, they stayed without a king for a very long time, in fact for many years.

They were waiting for that prince, eventually this prince who was the first son of the Oba of Benin was a grandson of Oduduwa. He was very proud so he had a lot of problems with Benin chiefs. They were going to kill him. His father who was the Oba of Benin, you know he was supposed to be the Oba of Benin after his father, but for his own protection, his father had to get him out of Benin Kingdom. He gave him about 70 chiefs. They smuggled him out, put him in a boat and they performed all kinds of rituals. They put him in a boat then sailed to Warri. When he ended up here, remember our own people were waiting for a prince, they have been waiting for years. When he arrived, they consulted their Ife again and the Ife says, “This is the prince”. So, that was how he became the first Olu of Warri. That was how the first Olu of Warri came about.
In those days, in the palace, in Warri kingdom, they used to speak Yoruba. The palace was 100% Yoruba. Don’t forget the Itsekiri language is a dialect of Yoruba land and therefore a Yoruba language as it is to this day. The Benin are not Yoruba; they are descendants of Oduduwa but the palace is Yoruba.

https://yemiolakitans..com/2019/12/itsekiri-is-yoruba-papa-ayo-oritsajafor.html?m=1

BrownLondon:
Hmmm, Tribalism apart.

We have Yorubas holding political offices in UK, so I will not say we don't intrude into other people's affair.

I think Yorubas don't like going to igboland, I don't know the reason why.

If I tell you that I don't know anyone living in SE would you believe?

The population of yorubas in SE Is very small, their voice won't go far.

Yorubas are many is SE.