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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:56pm On Jul 12, 2019
ChrisKels:
Solanke and the top are two parallel lines. Little wonder English fans were furious to see him in the lions jersey at the just concluded Euro U21 championship. grin grin
Stop lying to yourself. Give it up.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:46pm On Jul 12, 2019
ChrisKels:
Really? How many matches did he play this past season and how many did he start? Bhuhahahaha
Stylishly digressing from the point.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:21pm On Jul 12, 2019
ChrisKels:
Chai was that why Solanke is still a bench warmer/youth team player till morrow, while Origi already is a gold medalist? Bhuhahahaha
Warming bench were? At Liverpool? It is understandable.

At Bournemouth, he never warm bench.

As a youth player, because England has too many good players that even their U21 team can easily make the staring 11 of our national team. Gbam!
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:14pm On Jul 12, 2019
ChrisKels:
But Solanke aint one of those better players grin grin
Yes! He bribed his way up to the top.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:13pm On Jul 12, 2019
rabzy:
SubSaharan Africa
Not true.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
ORIJIN201:
China was united indeed. Communists vs imperialists. Dude,I'm done arguing. At your age, you know if you keep blaming everyone for your own woes, you'll not get anything done till you cease to exist. Even though Africa was set up to fail, the North African countries are still mile better off compared to other African countries. Goes to show you that we have a problem. I'm done with this argument!
When did communism come to existence?

China was already a unified state long before communism came into existence. You don't know anything.

Where is Libya and Sudan?

Besides, the remaining successful North African countries are dominated by one ethnic group and one religion, and some of them have been existing as a country before colonialism.

But Nigeria as a case study was the creation of white man.

How is that same?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:54pm On Jul 12, 2019
ChrisKels:
Says the English media, the same people that said Solanke was the best thing since slized bread just bkus of his usual youth soccer exploits that never amount to nothing. Bhuhahahaha
You, What do you know?

Do you know how many English players that are languishing in the academy or lower leagues despite being English?

The English has still produced better than than Nigeria has ever produced in her history even till date, they have better players than us.

So, be humble.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:30pm On Jul 12, 2019
ChrisKels:
Even after the plenty of matches u just showed us he played? Bhuhahahaha grin grin
Solanke sent Origi on loan. Fact


Divock Origi vs. Dominic Solanke – Forwards going head-to-head to remain at Liverpool this summer


Matt Ladson
21 June 2018

[b]A year ago, Dominic Solanke won the battle in pre-season against Divock Origi, it’s a situation the two find themselves in again this [/b]year.

When Jurgen Klopp lines up his side for their opening pre-season friendly at Chester in just over a fortnight he’ll have some strong options in defence and midfield.


The early domestic friendlies will see two XIs each playing 45 minutes, and we’ll get the likes of Andy Robertson, Alberto Moreno, Nathaniel Clyne, Virgil van Dijk, Joe Gomez, Ragnar Klavan and Joel Matip in defence.

In midfield, there will be new signings Fabinho and Naby Keita, plus James Milner, Gini Wijnaldum and Adam Lallana.

Youngsters Harry Wilson and Ben Woodburn will feature prominently, looking to do enough to remain in the first-team picture in the new season.

But with the front three of Sadio Mane, Roberto Firmino and Mohamed Salah all at the World Cup, it’s in attack that there will be the biggest opportunity for players to shine.

Most notably, it presents a straight head-to-head between two players who found themselves in a similar position a year ago; Dominic Solanke and Divock Origi.


Last summer’s pre-season saw Solanke move ahead of Origi in Klopp’s thoughts, scoring in friendlies against Crystal Palace, Hertha Berlin and Athletic Bilbao.

Origi, three years Solanke’s senior, needed to be playing regularly and sought assurances from Klopp which he couldn’t be given and the Belgian headed out on loan while Solanke became the main back-up to Firmino.


Origi’s loan at Wolfsburg was pretty unsuccessful; scoring seven goals in 36 appearances for the German side.

It must be noted though that a change of manager mid-season, plus tactics that frequently switched and didn’t get the best from the player, didn’t work in Origi’s failure.

That tally of seven goals was disappointing, especially given that he’d scored double figures despite a peripheral role in his two seasons previous at Anfield.


That, though, perhaps shows that had Origi remained at Liverpool, he’d have scored close to double figures again – which would be more than Solanke managed.

It’s very difficult to imagine that had Origi not gone out on loan that he’d have scored more than one goal all season.

This is, after all, a player who showed great promise in the early months under Klopp and scored home and away against Borussia Dortmund in the Europa League.

When Solanke arrived last summer from Chelsea, initial reports claimed he would actually be joining the Under-23s squad initially.

But clearly an ambitious player, he forced his way into Klopp’s plans and ahead of Origi in pre-season
. He was then the primary back-up to Firmino, even if most appearances arrived as late cameos from the bench.

A full league debut at Stoke in November pointed at an increased involvement as we headed into winter, but that never materialised and he started just twice more until the heavily rotated side that lined up at Everton in April.


In the meantime, he somehow fell behind Danny Ings in Klopp’s thoughts, with the injury-hit Englishman starting against West Brom instead of Solanke. Only to then be back ahead of Ings for the final game of the season, starting and scoring his first goal for the club against Brighton.

It was a confusing season then for the Londoner and he now finds himself in a very similar position to a year ago.



Opportunity knocks


We’re very likely to see Origi and Solanke play 45 minutes each as the centre-forward in these early friendlies; with the likes of Wilson, Ings, Woodburn, Kent and Ojo as the wider forwards.

Origi, who missed out on Belgium’s squad for the World Cup, has been doing personal training over in America while on vacation in Los Angeles; clearly he knows the importance of taking the opportunity this summer where he failed to last year.

With Firmino’s Brazil likely to progress far in the World Cup, the Reds’ No.9 won’t be involved in pre-season until the sixth friendly – against Man City in New Jersey – at the very earliest. Even then, he won’t be playing full 90 minutes. There’s a huge opportunity for Solanke and Origi to impress.

Rhian Brewster‘s injury will keep him out until late August so despite being fast-tracked to the first-team he won’t be involved early on.


What’s likely is that Klopp will go with Firmino, Salah, one of Origi or Solanke, plus Brewster as his central options.

It’s a head-to-head between the two and pre-season will decide who wins the chance to remain at Anfield in 2018/19.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:27pm On Jul 12, 2019
ORIJIN201:
China unified my foot. What was 1914 for? Even the USA was colonized. Different American states from Canada to Mexico joined to form that USA.
Africans should put their differences aside, quit whining and develop Africa.
It shows you know nothing about China's history.

1912 just ended the dynasty rule. China was already a unified state centuries ago.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:07pm On Jul 12, 2019
ChrisKels:
In essence, Solanke chased Origi out of Liverpool bhuhahahaha grin grin
Factually speaking.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
ORIJIN201:
Was there progress before colonisation? If there was, how come were they easily defeated by the colonial masters whilst taking over their land? Weren't it thesame leaders (monarchs) that were selling their kingsmen/fellow black people to slavery in exchange for mirrors? Look at china. No African countries suffered like they did for many centuries. Empires/civilisations took turns on them, but their culture and self determination with hard work remaind and we know where they are today. They didn't sit back and put blame on their misfortunes. Keep looking for excuse for the black man's ineptitude and mediocrity.
I see. The Babylonian empire, Media and Persia, Greek empire etc never made progress because they were conquered.

Your understanding of progress is all about the successful conquest of Africa.

You should do yourself a favour by reading about civilization of mankind. Where it started from.

Unfortunately, you are comparing China that had been a unified country for centuries with artificial states of Africa. What an irony!
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Danielnino00:
Solanke chased Origi out of Liverpool" lol cheesy
I remember a certain moniker here that supported the argument (I'm sure u can guess who grin)
He most likely made that statement out of hatred for Osimhen.. Origi lack of game time at Liverpool back then was due to the fact that Klopp doesn't play with a true 9. He prefers Firmino as a false9 ..Origi time and time again had proved to be a very reliable back up striker... He just wanted more game time so he could play at the world cup.... Solanke played 27 games and got just one goal!!
To tell u how overrated Solanke is,he scored just 7 goals in 25 games in the Dutch league...a league which ironically Sadiq Umar, another player Southgate has continually belittle on this thread scored 5 goals (and 3 assists) in 12 games...
grin
Origi lacked game time yet he played 43 matches for Liverpool before he was loaned out to Wolfsburg?

How can you claim Origi lacked game time without putting this stats into consideration but you quickly gave us Solanke's stats to support your argument that he had game time?

If Origi played 43 matches and had 2081 minutes of game time, what game time did Solanke get with 726 minutes despite the 27 games he played?

How does Origi getting 2,081 minutes tantamount to lack of game time?

Origi had enough game time but was loaned out because Liverpool agreement with Solanke before he signed for them was that he must get game time.

Besides, Solanke was the MVP of the U20 world cup that year and still went ahead to perform in Liverpool's preseason that year.

7 goals with 1 assists for a18 years old Solanke in his first professional career is very impressive.

You can't even compare it with Sadiq Umar who had already played in Seria A for two seasons before coming to the Eredivise.

Honestly, you are bias and subjective in analyzing your point.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:31am On Jul 12, 2019
Problemkid1:
Hahahaha forgiveness I swear you no go kill me with laughter grin grin
grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:23am On Jul 12, 2019
mank1234:
OH that. 8 in 10 blacks are selfish to a fault, does not think nor plan for the future, superstitious, thinks that everyone else is his problem except himself. This is especially true of Nigerians. We rationalize ills so it's common for you to hear such slangs as overtaking is allowed when people skip queue, maga don fall when we dupe people, we call those who are straight forward mumu.
What do you say about the selfishness of the whites that led to the creation of artificial African countries?

Don't you think it was due to whites personal gains and selfishness these artificial countries were formed?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
ORIJIN201:
African leaders have proven that statement to be right, over and over, again! They lack inventiveness, they can not aspire their nations to do anything. They are bunch of useless gluttons. grin Rogues and treacherous bastards. undecided
You are talking about African leaders in artificial countries created by the colonial masters to fail.

That buttress the point that colonization of Africa brought disaster rather than progress.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:12am On Jul 12, 2019
Problemkid1:
I dey tell you. These people don lie to us tire grin if you go YouTube you will see worster than this ones sef
They are bloody liars. Breeze don blow fowl yanch don show. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:22am On Jul 12, 2019
samorobo:
This is that mind blowing city with its citizen carrying buckets to fetch water at the cbd (parkland road)

grin grin grin. Remember this city is heading toward joburg infastructure and when it builds it's 500 tatu housing unit it will become the capital city of africa wink cheesy
Geeze! Ikot Ekpene get better roads pass this one wey I dey see. shocked

What an eyesore! lipsrsealed cry cry
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:12am On Jul 12, 2019
rabzy:
The Asians have never been behind us for thousands of years, that is a great delusion. Go and study Asian history and technology, they were never ever our mates...at least for the last 2000 to 3000 years
Do you mean behind Nigeria or behind Africans in general?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:37am On Jul 12, 2019
ORIJIN201:
Whatever makes you sleep at night, bro. cheesy wink
The black man cannot aspire, lacks adventure and the will to invent.

You should read about black race before you make such statement next time.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
rabzy:
I said types of wars.

Tribal wars with crude implements, while others were fighting with sophisticated weapons. What you use to solve your daily problems indicates your level of development.
This is not enough to clarify your assertion that black race were underdeveloped before the advent of colonialism.

I will appreciate you throw more light on this. Thanks

Besides, who told you there were no tribal wars fought in Europe, Asia and America?

Who told you Africans didn't fight with sophisticated weapons?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:10am On Jul 12, 2019
mank1234:
You missed the point in my initial post. You extracted the opposite of what I posted. Admit it and move on.
I mean your point in regards to black race.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:01am On Jul 12, 2019
ORIJIN201:
The truth hurts.
You wrote in ignorance.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
darkelf:
I am a Bonafide Nigerian and I love the Super Eagles

In the beginning, I had doubts about this team but they are gradually winning me over with their attitude on the field of play

But I know one fact; everybody cannot say positive things about the Super Eagles all the time. We are created different and we think differently.

Hence, it only makes sense to respect the opinions of others no matter how silly they may sound.

Granted, we give each other a hard time here by yabbing and making jokes about our wrong predictions and what nots but this should never degenerate to insults.

Some of us here have a hard time swallowing the opinions of others and cannot make intelligent arguments without insulting the other party. Times without number, I have called out some of these people. While some apologize and retract their statements, others remain adamant and choose not to admit their wrongs.

I want to believe we all possess a level of intelligence to converse on this thread and what differentiates the mature minds from kids is the ability to question opposing arguments with facts and without rude remarks.

I am calling on us especially those of us who are elders to act accordingly:

You don't have to reply every rude remark.

You are not in control of the other persons thoughts and opinions; positive and negative

I also want to believe that you (the agggressor) don't feed the aggressee neither do you clothe or pay his house rent grin grin. So the person can oppose you when he wants albeit intelligently.

ccSuperNerd, Chriskels, Icon4s, elyte89, Odunayaw, Earthquake3, Joebie, andrew444, Chrisoblog, safarigirl, Kog45, Mujtahida, Charlesemeka, Komekn, Forgiveness, Jarus, Mikael2, DrLikita, soetanoreoluwa, sontoly and those whose names I cant remember.

Stay blessed and Stay happy y'all

Up Super Eagles, Go for glory
There's limit to everything. Let me leave it at that.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:23pm On Jul 11, 2019
mank1234:
I didn't say that we were behind. I said that were behind us. Go and reread.
I can't really get you point. What is it exactly?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:12pm On Jul 11, 2019
mank1234:
China for instance.
Use the link below, change the year to 1967 and compare our GDP per capita and per capita income then. We were at par then. Change the year to 2019 and see the gulf between the two nation. You can do same for Indonesia, Malaysia, India Thailand etc

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/China/Nigeria/Economy
I didn't see where we were behind China. Can you snapshot and post it here?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:46pm On Jul 11, 2019
mank1234:
God's grace is sufficient. God is in all of us. It's our mindset that is different.

The Asian countries that were behind us decades ago are they more religious than us?
Ofcource, God is in all of us but the promise still remains with Israel.

Which Asians were behind you ahead decades ago?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:27pm On Jul 11, 2019
mank1234:
No people have suffered enslavement than the people of Israel yet they remain resolute and keep rising.

In their narratives, rather than blame their captor they took it as punishment for their sins and forge ahead (not that it's the right approach).

Blame game limits people.

The point is that dwelling on the effect will not move you forward. If we are to move forward we have to look at what we did wrong that made it possible in the first place and work towards equipping ourselves. Slavery was meted to us then but we are now wilfully putting ourselves in slavery because we have not learnt anything.
Israel success has nothing to do with their ability. It's purely the grace of God.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:20pm On Jul 11, 2019
rabzy:
Almost all nations have been colonized in their history, its nothing strange. The point is that we were underdeveloped before colonialism not that we were underdeveloped due to colonialism.
Without colonization we would most likely still be fighting kiriji and ekitiparapo types of war, while others are landing on the moon.
Beriberi, river blindness, abiku (sickle cell), diarrhoa, murdering of twins, smallpox (sopona) would still be killing us like fowls.
Why were they underdeveloped before colonialism? Can you define the development as at that time?

Were there no wars in Europe?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:16pm On Jul 11, 2019
ORIJIN201:
I'm tired of the blame game Africans keep playing. Africans are cowards. We have power but we use it in the opposite way because of greediness, useless pride and nepotism (religious and tribal). Something is wrong with the black man, and I've stated it earlier. The black man cannot aspire, lacks adventure and the will to invent. The black man is hopeless. When I look at our leaders, I see bunch of idiots that do not know they are making the black people look like bunch of animals. I wish I wasn't born in Africa, I don't deserve it, a lot of us don't. I didn't ask for it, and a lot of us didn't. If this will be the only question I'll ask God, it's why Africa?
Quite unfortunate you wrote that due to ignorance.
Politics › Re: Lagos Revenue In 2018 Was Higher Than That Of The Entire South-East - NEITI by forgiveness: 4:55pm On Jul 11, 2019
Midas01:
SW produces only 6% and SS produces 92% so yes, SS feeds the entire nation including SW. produces
South South produces 80%. Fact.
Politics › Re: Lagos Revenue In 2018 Was Higher Than That Of The Entire South-East - NEITI by forgiveness: 4:53pm On Jul 11, 2019
Midas01:
15% in your dreams. Oga Ondo and the entire SW only produces 6%, don't try to twist facts.
Ondo state produces 12% alone. Go and do your findings.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:13pm On Jul 11, 2019
joseph1013:
I will gladly refute this in another thread lest we derail this.
We are all here to learn. They will gladly enjoy your input. grin

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