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andrew444:
Person wey never know wetin him to answer you ,person dey search the internet for answers and look for a 2 sided way ,just cool down e go answer you

Swear you don't use search engine before coming here to pretend you know all.

andrew444:
Where did I call iheanacho world class ? It seems you don't understand simple English

Your only World class are mikel and Ndidi

So when did I mention iheanacho and success and even nwakali ? I said all your players in eagles are average apart from those 2 so it included iheanacho and everyone else

Stop disgracing your self ,you know better .

You are the one disgracing yourself for jumping into debate you don't know the basics.

Let me state it clearly to you.

Icon4 never rated Awoniyi from the onset that was why he made the bolded statement below. To him, Awoniyi doesn't have one single talent but he sees every talents in the Nwakalis, Okerekes, Iheanachos, Successes, Yahayas, etc that makes then potential world class players.

The same way he claimed Osimhen was rated highly than Opabumi at the U17 level but after showing him fact he became mute.

That was the point I was driving at before you started jumping guns in support of him.

Imagine his last statement there.. 'we are talking about talent oooo'

Where is Yahaya and Nwakalis? I am not saying they will not make it but I am fishing out his bias, sentimental and prejudice mentality.

Icon4s:
Taiwo Awoniyi never scored in any Olympics qualfiers.

That game u are referring to was an All African game qualfier. Awoniyi and Osimhen were dropped mostly because of their age and stage of development then. You can not in any imagination use that game of 2005 to call for Awoniyi's inclusion into the SE in 2019.

If we have our full compliment of players who are U23 today Awoniyi will not be in starting 11.

Icon4s:
Bros, your Lunch is on me.

And to make it bad ''Awoniyi fronters'' are already attaching tribal coloration to it all.

The National Team is for all Nigerians. Any player that deserves an invite will be invited.

You are the most cunning tribalist here.

andrew444:
So taison and Fred are strikers that they must score many goals ?

Fred and taison are midfielders oga ,if dey like make dem no score many goals ,Malcom is a winger okay and William Jose is a striker ,your lies 2 much you think you can just tell me nonsense and I will believe ? You are comparing midfielders to striker ,a striker need to score goals to make a team and not midfielders

Kayode has played only 9 league games this season and score 1 goal is that a good stats ? So na only 9 league games shaktar don play this season for league ?

Lol no sane coach will drop a player from shaktar for lesser league even if the player is not scoring goals ? You are very funny

Wetin consign me and danish league ? Do you have a beef with onuachu because he plays there ?

How many players from Belgium league dey make Belgium national team as talent full there ?

If Croatia keeper is from there and so what ?

So Malcolm is a striker? I see.

Taison is a confirm winger.

Why was Malcolm who scored more goals dropped?

Who was the highest Brazilian goalscorer in Europe top 5 leagues?

Was it not Willems Jose? Why was he dropped?

We are talking about last season, so stick to that. But you lied about Kayode's last season stats? Why?

How many players from the Danish team makes their team? That's the normal question you suppose to ask. Belgium league contributed more than 18 players to the last world cup.

You should not hide behind better league when it favours you but suddenly shy away from it when it doesn't favour you.

It's easier for a player in the Belgium league to make National teams unlike the Danish league. Fact

Toylove:
Bros stop now..ahan
If awoniyi isn't average, then he is what?....
World class?
Prospective world class?....

All these kind arguments sef

Yes! Iheanacho, Success, Yahaya and Nwakali are world class but Awoniyi is average.

andrew444:
those are the only 2 players in your team who are not average ,they are more than average ,I can even call both of them world class

The rest of your players are average and some of them are even below average

EOD

Yes! Iheanacho, Success, Yahaya and Nwakali are world class but Awoniyi is average. I see.

Who are 'your' players?

iSlayer2:
Firstly, I'm less concerned about last season.

Secondly, perhaps you're the one who wrote all that. It's definitely not me.

Try somewhere else Mr.

Na you get my data? Abi na you get this forum?

charlesemeka85:
And know sane fan will glamor for kayode's inclusion to the last world cup team when Simy performed better than him

Why was Malcolm and William Jose dropped for Fred and Taison?

If you don't have an answer just keep mute.

charlesemeka85:
U fit die put for matter wey concern certain players from a particular region or tribe. Which kayode re you talking about? What was is Stat last season compared to simy's own? Go hide abeg

How come you hide your head after the list was realised?

I thought you believe players must be chosen from top leagues as you said last year to justify your support for SIMY NWANKWO over Kayode?

You should have asked yourself why I left this thread for months after I heard Eze was capped by England. Shove your usual tribalism yans down your throat.

andrew444:
Stop twisting things am not a fool ,I am talking of last season before the World Cup and you know this and you are talking about this season ,when will you change ?

Was crotone not in Seria A last season ? I am talking of last season before the World Cup ,stop speak about this season as simy and kayode none of them remain in rohr plans okay

How many players from Belgium league use to make others national team like France Argentina and co ?

Shaktar Donetsk is a big club i have always said that

What regularly did kayode played for shaktar ? So 6 league games out of about 14 is regular ? Clap for your self .

You think there are no Brazilians in Belgium league ?
Brazil national team will rather call a player from china and their own Seria A than player in all those Belgium league and co

Who is talking about this season? I am talking about last season.

Your opinion about me is trash as far as I am concern.

Now, answer me. Why did Brazil coach picked Taison and Fred who scored 7 and 3 goals respectively for Sharktar Donetsk ahead of Williams Jose and Malcolm who scored 14 and 12 goals respectively in the La Liga and Ligue 1?

No sane coach will drop a player in a Sharktar Donetsk for lesser club even if you play in a top league.

Around 20 players from the Belgium pro. League made the world cup for different countries.

How many players from the Danish league made their teams?

Croatia goalkeeper is from where?

Kayode played regularly based on this stats below. I don't know where you got yours from.

andrew444:
I am telling you my own and not what he said ,I have already quoted you about when you are trying to make news out of awoniyi being average .

Did you hear me say below average here ?

Why can't you define it seems I didn't say anything about it

If you don't know, why did you say none beside Ndidi and Mikel?

iSlayer2:
I'm gonna be blunt. I think the argument on including Awoniyi is mostly biased driven. Yeah.

Awoniyi has not had a great season by any standards. During the first half of the season he was nowhere, we feared for the boy's career. It was only during the new loan at his former loan club Mouscron that he banged in a few decisive ones here and there but still nowhere near that top level at all.

Now put him side by side with the other attackers invited. He can't compete an established striker like Ighalo Onuachu has had a great season and when eventually he was invited he put in a convincing performance. He can't even compete with Osimhen who plays in the same league. Osimhen has been a monster. Down to Iheanacho, based on pedigree, Iheanacho has it going for him. You can't invite an unproven Awoniyi who has not had a great season in place of a tested Iheanacho.

I would suggest someone else performing at a decent level be invited in place of Iheanacho. Currently. Awoniyi is not that person.

Did Simy had a great season last season? Why did you rate him?

For someone who questioned the pedigree of the Austrian league but suddenly turns around to praise Onuachu's performance in the Danish league, a league miles lower than the Austrian league shows his level of bias and prejudice.

Who wrote this below?

andrew444:
No be wetin we get we dey use ?

How many people from Belgium league dey make their various national team ?

How many goals kayode score and how many goals simy score ,simy scored higher than kayode If am not mistaken ,you dey come here dey use man of the match as an excuse

I always know you that you are always 2 sided,you don see say simy did well than kayode and you are coming here to talk about man of the match , lol

You are very funny

Many.

Now, ask yourself, how many players from the Danish league makes their team?

Kayode was playing regularly for Sharktar Donetsk while Simy played for relegated Seria A team.

Two players from Sharktar Donetsk made the Brazilian world cup team despite the fact that they had players from middle table teams in top leagues. Malcolm was dropped.

Simy over the years until he went to the world cup was average at best. No reasonable coach will take a player like that in his team.

There's no doubt standard here. Either you play in a top league or in a top club. In most cases, coaches will pick a player from a top club before thinking of an average player from a top league.

andrew444:
Person wey never know wetin him to answer you ,person dey search the internet for answers and look for a 2 sided way ,just cool down e go answer you

I have answered him. Go back and check.

andrew444:
So anderlecht is better than gala ? Clap for your self

So if a player leaves Everton and join Napoli you will call it downgrade just because Epl is better than the Seria A ?

You try wella

Yes! Anderlecht is better than Gala.

andrew444:
Ndidi ,obi mikel ,then who else ? NOBODY


EOD

Do you understand English? Did he ask for more than one?

Besides, define below average?

elyte89:
Mention just one player in d present eagles setting above average ?

Ndidi

andrew444:
Smiles

I get your point

But didn't Simy did better than kayode before the World Cup ?

What nwakaeme ? The one that has only one cap for the eagles ?

You wanna drop onauchu for awoniyi right ? But you know it's the coach decision and this doesn't happens only in naija football ,some players are not lucky due to selection

Did Simy win motm? Was he outstanding? I don't think so.

Where did you see me write, drop Onuachu? I only gave you instances.

It's only in Nigeria you pick players in a very lower league.

Earthquake3:
You didn't answer my question, Would Onyekuru moving to the Belgium league be considered an upgrade?

Statistically speaking, downgrade though Gala is top team.

andrew444:
But if people like me tell una say laliga better pass Epl you go start unnecessary arguments expecially komekn ,but just because you wanna side a league awoniyi plays in you will dig out fact

Good one from you ,but you will never change because you are always 2 sides .

Many have used ranking of league to discredit and justify the selection of players here. So it is not a new thing but unfortunately when others uses the same standard measurements, you are accused of supporting players from your zone.

For example, It was used to drop Kayode for Simeon Nwankwo but it can't be used to drop Onuachu and Nwaekeme. Why?

andrew444:
But if people like me tell una say laliga better pass Epl you go start unnecessary arguments expecially komekn ,but just because you wanna side a league awoniyi plays in you will dig out fact

Good one from you ,but you will never change because you are always 2 sides .

When did I say EPL is better than la Liga?

I said la Liga is boring. Simple thing

Icon4s:
So u spent only God knows how many hours to go dig out a post from 2016. Just to show that I said Awoniyi was average.

Chai!

No! Just nau and it came out.

Don't try hard to sky away from the fact that you don't rate Awoniyi from the onset.

You consider him average and less talented.

andrew444:
I asked a question and you are answering with a question

The ranking should work as the league that has provide successful teams in European competitions for the past few years so that makes Spain at the top

And more clubs in the Belgium league have performed than the Eredivise in the last 5 years.

I hope you know forgiveness didn't do the ranking. Uefa did. You can please direct your questions to them.

andrew444:
Many young players have been bought from turkey league to Seria A ,laliga and few in the Epl

No let me bring the names ,but you will come with your excuse as usual

Why will a young player go to turkey league when e got offers from the best league in the world ?

EOD

Earthquake3:
You dey show me 1970 stats abi? You don't see when the Turkish clubs won there own

But you brought up 2019 stats to show me why Belgium league coefficient is better, why don't you dig up 1970 Uefa Coefficient

The bolded has been debunked. EOD

Earthquake3:
What would Belgium league achieve that Gala, Fernabarche and Besisktas has not tripled

Don't make me laugh

Besides, the UEFA ranking is based on performance of leagues representative in the UEFA champions League in the last five years.


As it stands, the Belgium league representatives have been doing better than the Turkish league representatives in the last five hence the current rating.

Meaning, Belgium league is currently better than the Turkish league. EOD.

andrew444:
So 28 years player is about to retire ? lol you must always look for excuses,I trust you for that one

Which one be African best player ,must all good striker win African best player ,bros Abeg leave they talk of African best player ,or does that make the player not a good player ?

Please name an African number 9 in Europe top 5 leagues that scored 15 league goals this season

We all know turkey is not a top league like Europe top 5 ,but please name a striker that scored 15 goals ,please not wingers like mane and co

The point still remains that Turkish league is a dumping ground for about to retire players just like the Chinese league.

How many young upcoming European go to Turkish league? Just tell me.

How many young players have been bought from the Turkish league? I just want to know.

Icon4s:
Bros I don't understand the point you are trying to make here.
That list posted by Tbaba1234 in 2016 about the top 5 talents from the 2013 and 2015 was very correct considering the performances and displays from the Players at the cadet level. It didn't state that they will all go ahead and become Superstars. Even Chukwueze was not in that his list but is today ahead of some other players he mentioned.

Please try and be keeping your arguments to context.

Awoniyi is average according to you.

andrew444:
That list you posted yesterday about club ranking if I am not mistaken Belgium league is rated higher than the Netherlands right ?

But is any Belgium club successful as Ajax in Europe?

Does it disannuls the UEFA rankings?

Do you even know how it works?

andrew444:
Feghouli about to retire ?

Victor Moses about to retire ?

Badou Ndiaye about to retire ?

Kagawa about to retire ?

Mbaye diagne who is Africa best striker in Europe this season is about to retire ?

Fousenni diabate that Didn't get a chance at Leicester is about to retire abi ?

Yoanes belhanda is about to retire abi ?

Fernando who pep didn't need at mancity that joined gala at the age of 28 then was about to retire abi after he got many Epl offers but went to turkey for money ?

How many players there is up to 30? If not Fernando and kagawa

At times you go just talk things you know nothing about all in the name to favour your arguement

Smh for you

This list just confirmed it. All are btw 28 - 30 years old.

Turkish league is not different from the Chinese league. They pay money.

I am not saying it is a bad league ooooo. Please, don't get me wrong.

Will Mbaye diagne win Africa best player of the year?

Earthquake3:
What would Belgium league achieve that Gala, Fernabarche and Besisktas has not tripled

Don't make me laugh

You don't seems to know anything about footage. All those clubs you listed are nonentity in comparison with the Belgium clubs in UEFA competitions.

Just look below.

andrew444:
Belgium league doesnt attract big players sha ,thou its rated higher than turkey as you posted there

Yes! The Turkish league attracts big players that are about to retire.

Earthquake3:
Switzerland is not recognized by Uefa Coefficient

According to forgiveness

You said Czech league is obscure but you know what! The Swiss and Danish leagues are below the same Czech league.