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Isahalbash:
That one is too far... The current u17 self... Dem say na quota system

I saw that to but how many of them spoke against it?

Those guys support is only based on whether players in their zone is in the team or not. And if they happen to see one, all attentions is on him.


Na wa oooo.
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Icon4s:
Egbon, please go back to that list of strikers and suggest one Rohr ought to have dropped so as to accommodate Awoniyi.

I dey wait.

You never believed in Awoniyi from the onset. So, I never for once took you seriously.

Any Awoniyis, Kayodes, etc are just average to you and your cohorts.

Internet never forgets.

After looking at the snapshot of our debate in 2016, is Awoniyi among the top 5 world class talented players our U17 produced?

As you can see my prediction then is in line with the reality today but it goes along way to prove that you and many here are sentimental and prejudice in all analyses.

tbaba1234:
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Kingsley Michael is already in the camp. That's a good one.

Earthquake3:
I think it would be stupid of me to remind you again that Nwaekeme plays both positions

Your league coefficient means nothing, it's like saying that it's easier to score in EPl than LA Liga because La Liga has a higher position

Everybody knows Turkey has top clubs like Gala, Fernabarche, Besisktas et al

It means nothing only to a novice. If only the Turkish can ever achieve what the Belgium league achieved in Europe.

My friend, you are a novice.

Earthquake3:
One Europa League goal that you are yapping nonsense about

Maybe when he scores two we start worshipping him, Average striker

It doesn't change the fact that you lied about the goal and level of league.


Nwaekeme is not a striker and he is currently in a lower league than Awoniyi.

Earthquake3:
Shut up and reread your post again

'As a striker' is the pointer that position is the subject of discuss. Read and comprehend.

Earthquake3:
Oh now it's how many career goals he has scored? Going by that logic you should never compare Awoniyi to Iheanacho

I only count league goals not when you score against non professional footballers in cups, Nwaekeme has 10,Awoniyi has 7

Who is talking about career goals?

Nwaekeme is not a striker going by that stats and he scored in a lower league lower than the Belgium League. EOD.

Maybe Europa League goals are lesser than the Turkish league goals.

Earthquake3:
Nwaekeme can play as a striker as well as a LW

If he can score more goals from the LW position than Awoniyi can score as a striker he sure deserves a place ahead of him

First of all, how many goal has he scored as a striker in his whole entire career? See below. As you can see, he is a winger and not a striker.

Now, see Awoniyi stats as a striker.

The last time I checked, Nwaekeme and Awoniyi are tie at 12 goals. Where did he score more than Awoniyi?

Earthquake3:
Forgiveness this one you are crying about Awoniyi what will you say about Nwaekeme who has more goals and is in a better league than Awoniyi

Is it because he's not from the region you want to see in the team list?

Is the Turkish league better than the Belgium league?

Since, you have seen the players from the region you want to see, hope you are satisfied?

Besides, is Nwaekeme a striker? If not, which of the LW on the list will you drop for him?

Oasis007:


He's not a Lawyer, he's not trained to argue his Case here professionally. I believe Forgiveness is simply fighting for Equity and Justice, however most of his Clients are from certain Region.

I am not a lawyer but I was born and brought up in legal practitioners, judges and lawmaker home. I suppose to be, to keep the tradition but I have chosen a different way.

Oasis007:


..... Because most of your favorite Players are believed to be your Kinsmen.

No mind those people. Let the SE be dominated by the Northern players, you will see many self hired advocate here.

Go to the politics section, most these dudes are defending their people.

jihday:
na standby be that na

No bi list?

Oasis007:


He's being always harmless (not sentimental) with his Supports, but kinda being misunderstood by Dudes here.

You had better leave that one alone.

He doesn't have one single genuine answer for those questions I asked him.

He has been exposed.

Oasis007:


Not Everyone understands this, but I do, some as well do but always choose to ignore.

What prompted that statement then?

Oasis007:


Your Affections for certain Players from certain Region in Nigeria.

I don't have affection for certain players from certain region in Nigeria. That's a pure undiluted lie.

But I am against injustice and double standard. If I choose to go the sophisticated way I will not say anything and look away.


I head people from different tribes currently. At one point, I sided, acknowledged and gave positions to others despite obviously not better because I didn't want to be seen as a tribalist but I later learnt I was actually biased.

As a leader, I learnt to be fair to all regardless of who you are, where you come from and what you are.

I can't say because I am from one region I shouldn't defend equity and justice.

Oasis007:


Stop the Argument bro, coz it's becoming a Game of Chess (Tribalism) and you are being turned to a Pawn already.

Your Point is as clear as Daylight, but some Names are being mentioned apparently to tag you what you've been painted here already, simply to win more Fans over and bully you as usual.

Let it go, don't engage in dirty Game coz your weakness is being exploited.

Me don commot mind 4 the matter. My weaknesses?

Danielnino00:
Sometimes when people clamour for players inclusion in the national team,they forget that the national team structure is totally different from club structure .

Spots in the national team are limited... and game time itself is limited.. u have to prove yourself at club level before u get called up to the national team and u have to perform in the national team to keep ur spot there..

Forgiveness I support your argument that Awoniyi deserves to be on the list...but then the players who made the list ahead of him deserve it too... In the case of Paul,he has been consistent since he moved to the Danish league. He should have been called up long ago but there where others ahead of him..and now he has gotten his chance and made good use of it... osimhen too has been in good form this season...
Even Iheanacho deserves another chance to redeem himself. Don't forget that he was our best striker before his loss of form..Regardless of his club form,I think he has done well enough with the super eagles to merit another chance..

Awoniyi is still young.. he will still play for the super eagles.. let him keep working hard...missing an AFCON spot isn't the end of the road for him...
So relax...

Why should I relax? Did I bring up the matter?

Why can't you address the person that claimed Iheanacho deserved to be on the list because he plays in a far higher league than Awoniyi neglecting the fact that Awoniyi is also playing in a far far far far far league higher than the Danish league where Paul is?

Why can't you address the person that claimed Awoniyi is not consistent enough to be called into the National team but didn't tell how consistent Osimhen was before he got a call into the National team?

Please, save your advice for yourself because you are bias in judgement. Thanks

Oasis007:
Baba even went ahead to distort Facts, simply to discredit and ridicule Awoniyi. LMAO!



Osimhen scored Hattrick for the U23 and becomes a National Hero, Awoniyi scored brace in Lusaka for the same U23 Team led by Siasia..... No it was scored in 2005 and for the All Africa Game U23 Team.

Abeg! Forget some people myopic sense of reasoning here. They are just too bias and sentimental in their analyses.

Oasis007:
I don't want him dropped either, coz he brings something special to the Squad and he's gonna be a dependable, reliable super sub and be more useful where power is required.

My Point is; Forgiveness made the Reference, to neutralize the flimsy Excuse gave to support the potential Inclusion of Iheanacho in the final List.

But as per Okereke; In his Words.... Awoniyi failed to deliver in ordinary U23 Qualifier. Elder indeed..... Lol!

Exactly my point.

andrew444:
I didn't jumped I followed i quoted him earlier and he knows

I told him earlier that awoniyi deserved to be on the list but Paul should not be dropped for him

I think you are the one who jump into conclusion and not me

At the bolded no be only 2 players dem go drop ,was that the first thing he said ,if nacho will be dropped then why fight for awoniyi to be there ahead of Paul

Awoniyi didn't even make the standby list ,that should tell you about rohr

Rohr in-charge?

Oasis007:
Did you follow the Argument or just jumped on him coz he's forgiveness?! Was he the one that brought the standard/rating of the League in the first Instance?!

Kindly follow the Argument From the beginning, then modify your Post as fairly as possible.

Exactly!

Danielnino00:
Nope...its because people like you supported a slowpoke like Buhari for reelection... Rohr player selection has nothing to do with it..


BTW, I used to think u were a very patriotic Nigerian with the way u fought and defended d country on that Kenyan thread.but alas once ur favorite players aren't picked for national team selection, the country becomes f*** up to u..

Which favourite players?

This has nothing to do with favourite players, it's has to do with credibility and performance.

Do these so called favourite players deserve to be called?

Answer that question then I will know your level of reasoning.

Besides, where did I say Nigeria is messed up? In your imagination?

I will support Buhari over Atiku over and over again. Next!

andrew444:
I no say na Austria wein you go talk

Is there any striker in Israel league that's in that list NO

How many striker there has started games for the eagles in an important match ?

No be ighalo dey almost start all the games then iheanacho ?

Has osimhen or Paul started a competitive match ?

The last time I check kayode has 4 appearance for eagles

There is a certain nwakaeme doing well that was not called up also ,there is also a certain sly igboun

Calm down

Whether it's important or friendly, the point is, he was never started but others got started.

For 14, 20, 19 and 3 minutes games? Is that what you call chances?

Those players you mentioned are wingers and not strikers.

I did not bring up the topic in the first place but I have to debunk falsehood.

Oasis007:
Sometimes some Dudes beat your Imaginations and Expectations of them as regards to Fairness. How can Someone keep hammering that Awoniyi won't even make the U23 first XI for God's sake?!

First and foremost, it was he's playing in a lower League, forgiveness dropped an uncontestable Fact to checkmate it. Secondly it was the heroic Performance of Osimhen at the last U23 qualifying Match as if Awoniyi had not done the similar Feat in GwG.

Why shying away from the Question asked by Forgiveness?! How many Goals did he score before he was called over to the National Team?! Because Onuachu scored a Goal in his Debut Season, thus he's rated highly and better than Awoniyi now. I pray he doesn't turn to be another Ogbuke!

Though Forgiveness can be annoying at times, but he's right on Awoniyi's Exclusion From the List. He's in form, he's playing well for his Club, yet he's not even on the standby List. That's unfair!

Am I surprised that Iheanacho made the List? Capital No! Is he gonna be dropped? Capital No! Iheanacho is going to Egypt, same as Musa, Simon, Etebo, Ndidi, Mikel, Balogun, Ekong, Igbalo.

The Competition for the final List is between Onyekuru, Chuks, Osimhen, Onuachu and Kalu. Two of them are going to be dropped. They are talented, exceptional but they're not core Members of the Squad yet.

Besides why do we need 10 Attackers in the Squad at the Expense of Midfielders, especially attacking Midfielders?! Seem Rohr is thinking of of playing 4 - 2 - 4 Formation in Egypt? Two Strikers flanked by tricky, pacy Wingers who can as well operate as Wingbacks by covering up for the FBs if the need be.

End Note: In my Opinion, the List is fair enough. I have nothing against it, so is everyone on the List. And whoever makes the final Cut should count himself lucky and ready to die for the Color.

What do except from someone who believes Awoniyi is never a good striker from the unset.


Because they don't have an answer.

andrew444:
Why can't you also answer my question ?

When did kayode play much games just as you have said ?

Please answer my question and stop ignoring

Thank you

I didn't ignore you na. I have to finish one at a time.

andrew444:
When did kayode played much,please tell me ?

Is 13 league games since 2018 much ?

Tell me something I don't know

Even in Girona he didn't play much

Unless you are talking of when he is in Austria

When he won the highest goal scorer and best player in the Austria league that is far far far far ahead of the Danish and Isreali league, was he given opportunity to start one single game?

Icon4s:
From Awoniyi to Opabunmi. So which is the next player u want to compare with Osimhen? Kayode after that one u mention Ajagun

Why can't you answer the questions above?

Icon4s:
How many months after playing U17, as a 16 years old, did Onigbinde invite Opabunmi for camping for a major event like the WC? Barely 6-7months. What level of his game had he developed from few months after the U17 WC?

It was just like taking Osimhen to the WC in 2016 if it was held that year. See u comparing Opabunmi's case with that of Osimhen who was invited for an AFCON qualfiers (not even a WC o) after almost 2 years after playing U17 and having signed a senior professional contract.

The Nigerian press had every reason to ask questions about Opabunmi's inclusion. And what was the Coach's answer? "He is my boy".

All these are irrelevant because you said Osimhen was first called to the National team based on just 'special' talent status as seen in the bolded below.

Was Opabumi not called at first based on special talent status?

Why did you against it then and even till now since he was indeed a special talent but you want us to believe it was okay to call Osimhen at first based on special talent status?

Icon4s:
First off please when did we ever have an Iwobi vs Dele Alli argument here?

Talking about Awoniyi we are talking 2019 here. Awoniyi couldn't score in a 2019 U23 qualfiers and the Osimhen u are trying very hard to pull down because of him scored 3. That is what we are discussing here.

I have told u Osimhen is a special talent which was why Rohr picked him early. You cannot say same for Awoniyi who has even been struggling with form for a couple of years now.

Icon4s:
Each time u keep going back to this Onigbinde's case. You don't know he is even closer to me than u can ever imagine. Same blood that flows through my children flows through him.

Answer questions and leave story.

Humility017:
the country will remain poverty capital because we re-elected buhari and not because of rohr players list pls

That's if the head is rotten?

Icon4s:
Besides, on that list I mentioned Batholomew Ogbeche, Justice Christopher, Femi Opabunmi and Efe Sodje. Why was it that it was only Femi Opabunmi u picked to defend? Ogbeche was even younger than Opabunmi.

Ur matter sef.

Because you believe Osimhen was first called to the National team based on special talent status he gained through the U17 tournament.

Did Justice Christopher and Batholomew Ogbeche earned special status through any U17?

Opabumi did. Didn't he?

Did

Koboko99:
All this arguments because Awoniyi or Ajagun isn't on the list when we have Nacho and Ogu there right?

Rohr has decided!!!
Even if we argue from now till 2034 it will not change anything. So jus accept it and move on.

That's why your country will remain poverty capital of the world as long as you move on.