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Martz101:
i don't know what you gain from lying, kayode and stuani started the season together, kayode was on the bench in the first game against athletico madrid...he came up from the bench and didnt score a goal

girona plays with 2 forward portu the second guy, why can't kayode displace him? he was not as prolific as stuani

He made that bench two days after he joined the team. No preseason, no nada.

While stuani made the team a month after Kayode joined.

Besides, Stuani is an Uruguay national team player and played for long with them. He's on their provisional list.

He has experience playing in the la Liga for 5 good seasons and you want to compare him with Kayode, right?

Which striker in our national team is better than Stuani or can bench him? Pray you tell me.

somehow:
Because Rohr invited him multiple times unlike Kalu. that says it all.

That he didn't make the 30 man list is based on preference and not performance.

EOD.

GBAM. EOD.

Martz101:
Using your words, what makes you think kayode is in Rohr plans, if a very good player can be discarded and all you could say was his not in his plan, then I'm very sure kayode is not in Rohr plan for worldcup.

abi you wan force an to dey him plan?

Is Samuel Kalu among the top 3 Nigerian performing players in the Belgium pro league?

tbaba1234:
Eric Cantona and David Ginola were dropped before France 98. Two huge names. They still won the title.

None of the players dropped by Nigeria is as big as either player. Let us focus on the players, we have.

The difference is France and Nigeria.

somehow:
What are you saying na? Did Stuani ever underperformed while getting started ahead of Kayode? if not, why then would the coach have benched him for Kayode? he scored 21 goals in 33 games.. meaning he was delivering so had no need to be benched.

No mind the two faced double standard fellows.

Martz101:
don't be deceived kayode is still not a starter in Ukraine

Time will tell.

Martz101:
oga stuani was recruited just about time they got kayode, kayode had more goal than stauni prior to the move, younger and was expected to perform better than him.

This is the first tine stuani is scoring double figure in europe

Olodo. When did they join Girona?

Person wey join few days to the opening of the league.

Martz101:
bros, performance and preference will always come in place when choosing, a player like Kalu of gent should be there too if we are talking about performance alone.

The coach will only choose 30 and then 23, there is so many good players, he just have to tailor it down.

let me give you an example France constantly play Giroud ahead of Lacazette in the qualifiers while lacazette kept him on the bench in arsenal, the coach preferred giroud because of his system.

Is Samuel Kalu among the top 3 performers in the Belgium pro league this season that he should be there?

I don't think so.

andrew444:
If ndidi na yoruba boy forgiveness no go allow us hear word,ordinary laliga team of the week be like balon d or award

I see. Joel Obi is Yari.ba, ba?

andrew444:
Lol so he was not played in the right position in girona? Lol

My prayer is that he should be signed permanent at shaktar not all this team of the week issues you are talking about.

When ndidi won leichester city player of the year for the second time in a row i didnt hear noise oo,but just because one player was in team of the week we no go hear word.

Why are all praying he signs permanently with Shahktar Donetsk?

You still don't believe he can play in Man City but you believe some players can make Real Madrid team?

Be deceiving yourself.

andrew444:
So being a player of the week just once change a player from being a flop? Clap for your self

The same forgiveness called nwakali a flop for only scoring 4 goals all season and he his a midfielder,but the same kayode scored 4 goals all season and he is not a flop, player of the week look like a trophy in your eyes.

Where did he score the 4 goals? In Eredivise or lowly Eredivisie second division?

andrew444:
He will never bench stuani and he is not better than stuani we all know that,they play a 5-3-2 formation,why cant he bench the other striker? I am not saying he is a bad player,please can you push this question you just ask me to forgiveness because he is in a better position to answer

You don't yet arguing blindly. Carry your cross.

kennysville:
I am tempted to say his persistent rants is probably the reason Kayode got dropped from the squad. Its not impossible. For instance, how are we sure that those close to the national team are not on this thread? What if Gernot Rohr himself is just an unregistered observer on this thread? There is no way to monitor who is viewing this thread if all we look out for is just the names of monikers online only.

Sentiments apart, I love Kayode. But it looks like frustration has already set in to his game. I recall when Forgiveness used his hand to type that even if Kayode scores1000 goals, he wont be at the world cup. And true to his words, he wont be. Question is when he knew all these, why is he still ranting? Why is he acting like he is shocked and disappointed?
If the bible says the expectation of the "righteous" ( and trust me, he and Komekn are very righteous) shall not be cut off, why the petulance? The things we say or think are very weighty. They reveal who we are. I am so sure the stakeholders are here on this thread. You may just not know.

So if you are an agent and you want to market your player, learn from these folks how not to go about player hyping or coercion down the throats of authorities...... My opinion.

Disclaimer: I dont hold any brief for Rohr or NFF or the coaching crew of the Super Eagles. The views above are strictly my opinions. You dont like it, then I am sorry you dont. You should open a bottle of Green Sands Shandy and take wash it down.

Hahahahahaha! Expectation of the righteous is not Kayode going to the world Cup or not oooo. Aha!

Expectation of the righteous is the coming of Christ and making heaven. In, addition, the fulfilment of his promises.

Kayode name dey for Bible?

However, it's only a black man mentality that will do bad belle for anyone that challenges. The same can't be said in a civilized world.


Anyway, I am not after Kayode making the world cup, I am after the two faced double standard fellows. Are you one of them?

BascoVanVeli:
That's rubbish forgiveness has promoted plenty non-Yoruba players please let us stick to football.

Abeg, no mind that fellow. Thanks

Icon79:
Haha!! I am glad more people are beginning to realize that obvious truth. A few weeks ago, I challenged someone to show me a thread where forgiveness has ever promoted an non-Yoruba player. And I am still waiting ....


O pari

Hahahahahah! Look at this one! Pot calling kettle black. Oya! Take the lead by listing all the players you have promoted in your entire stay here. I don't want to use because you will be found wanting.

I am waiting.

chrisooblog:
hmmm interesting simy nwankwo performed better than ogbeche during his time so his call up is understandable. ''what how dare you don't you know ogbeche played with ronaldinho, okocha, hessenesy sorry i mean heinze'' kayode performed better than k. nwakili ''what egbon don't you know kelechi trains with ozil, sanchez and ramsey'' abi no be so based on your logic?

Ogbeche stats prior to the world Cup. How did Simy performed better than Ogbeche?

Martz101:
where was kayode when he was his age?

At 19, he scored 10 goals to help his Isreali team win the league to gain promotion to the top tier. The next season he was the third goal scorer in the Isreali first division.

BascoVanVeli:
Let me give you the cold face truth. Rohr doesn't fancy Kayode just like he doesn't fancy Henry. At the end of the day we have to respect the decision. I can tell you that before the olympics and especially CHAN I was pissed off at our coaches no be small but I had to quickly get myself together and support the teams selected.

I liked every single one of Kayode's performances at Girona but the coach already had an 11 that he trusted and the goals just didn't want to come.

I agree with you on your first sentence because I have seen the body language but the excuse some people are giving here is preposterous.

andrew444:
Hmm are you sure ?

Mind you ac Milan won it 7 times even more than my lovely Barca,please educate me if I am wrong ,thank you

2. England

12 OF 14
Points: 310

Clubs: Arsenal, Blackburn, Chelsea, Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester United, Newcastle, Tottenham

Breakdown

Winners 3 (Liverpool 2004/2005 Manchester United (2) 1998/1999, 2007/2008)

Final 5 (Arsenal 2005/2006 Chelsea 2007/2008 Liverpool 2006/2007 Manchester United (2) 2008/2009, 2010/2011)

Semi-Final 10 (Arsenal 2008/2009 Chelsea (4) 2003/2004, 2004/2005, 2006/2007, 2008/2009 Leeds 2000/2001 Liverpool 2007/2008 Manchester United (3) 1996/1997, 2001/2002, 2006/2007)

Quarter-Final 14 (Arsenal (4) 2000/2001, 2003/2004, 2007/2008, 2009/2010 Chelsea (2) 1999/2000, 2010/2011 Liverpool (2) 2001/2002, 2008/2009 Manchester United (5) 1997/1998, 1999/2000, 2001/2001, 2002/2003, 2009/2010 Tottenham 2010/2011)

Second Round 11 (Arsenal (5) 2001/2002, 2002/2003, 2004/2005, 2006/2007, 2010/2011 Chelsea (2) 2005/2006, 2009/2010 Liverpool 2005/2006 Manchester United (2) 2003/2004, 2004/2005 Newcastle 2002/2003)

Group Stage (Arsenal (2) 1998/1999, 1999/2000 Blackburn Rovers 1995/1996 Liverpool (2) 2002/2003, 2009/2010 Manchester United (2) 1994/1995, 2005/2006 Newcastle 1997/1998)

I was going to rank this list from 2001, if I did that England would have surely been number one. Six out of seven years England had a club in the final in the last decade and for three years in a row we had three semi-finalists.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1113021-champions-league-what-country-has-been-the-most-successful

andrew444:
So player of the month is an achievement? lol

You want to compare taison and fred performance with kayode? Lolss

So because they are going to the world cup means kayode should also be there

Funniest thing i have read today,thank God nairaland is not reality.

Post the link where kayode won shaktar player of the month?

He made the Shakhtar Donetsk player of the month. Use your data and deal with it.

TheSuperNerd:
Haba naa... Egbon... Him no mean am like that naa... Omo you dey show paranoia for hia ooo... Coolu down ooo... No let me find you come house oooo.. Una go cook that Amala and ewedu for me tire... I mean am ooo

How em take mean am? I have seen enough of him. So, you don't need to make excuses for him.

He should have tried that in the politics section and let us see how it goes.

andrew444:
Promote your kayode and belittle others players you hate,your promotion did not give kayode a world cup spot,when the mundial get started you can switch off your tv and play snooker because maybe there might be no yourba players in the starting line up.

I laugh at kayode because you laugh at others player,you said he should be invited i told you he has no goals but you are here ranting about team of week.

I have never remembered when i talk bad about others players and praise the one i like,i defended nwakali and i still said he doesnt deserve a spot in the SE,even if he scored hatrick he doesnt deserve a spot.

I am happy kayode is at shaktar,i dont care if kayode made the player of the month or not(Thou you are lying because i cant remember when he won shaktar player of the month),i want shaktar to sign him permanent because i want to see him play in the champions league.

But i can bet you are having a slepless seeing nacho at the world cup because i know you prefer sadiq umar,your ajagun is not also there,i hope you will be able to cope this june,May God keep you out of depression AMEN.

You are only served your two faced double standard unit of measurement and here you are crying Yoruba.

Chai! See how u dey confess.

andrew444:
Lol you got no excuse this time,you and forgiveness think say na only una know stats ....southgate and Roy hodgson spotted

Geting to the last 16 should not be an achievement for English club it should be an achievement for Norway and Denmark club,is this how you want to belittle the Epl?

Even teams like Cska Moscow most times make the last 16,fc Basel Porto are regular in the last 16 so why will it be an achievement for English club? Be careful sir

EPL is the second most successful league in the UEFA Champions League.

You can take that to the bank.

komekn:
What's is truth in the context of football.

Your approach is wrong,there is mostly opinion garnished with facts but opinion is what is the overriding component.

In football there will be huge differences in opinion, you should respect other opinions. This childish calling people derogatory names, tribalist and troll is uncalled for on this forum.

Leave that boy alone. His tactics is dead on arrival.

If you ask him to give explaination for calling people derogatory names, he wouldn't be able to give a cogent and reasonable explaination. Na because e dey mention Yoruba players full em head. Pathetic

komekn:
You have created a new unit of measurement for quality players " heart of a Lion" how do you determine this all encompassing attribute.

Therefore tactical astuteness, technical ability, vision and discipline are not intrinsic to quality. Eventually quality will be recognised with upward progression into top clubs and leagues.

The basis for selection MUST BE consistent top quality performances in your club. The betterment club and league the greater standing given to the player.

Not too long ago I rated the EPL considerably better than the Bundesliga. Which is a one club league Bayern Munich win everything until last Saturday.

Batshuayi and Ademola literally forgotten men and bench warmers have come to Bundesliga and ripped it apart from day one.

Rohr is not tu beginning and end of football analysis and player quality assessment. In addition unless you are close to Rohr what he says in public and what he truly believes you really have no idea. In addition we do not know what external pressures are put on him.

This is what we have been saying. We don't need any hidding unit of measurement to determines a player selection into the National team.

Today it's better league, tomorrow he is talent for the future, next tomorrow he is a senior player in the SE, day after next tomorrow, na player with heart of a Lion.

Double Standard everyday. No wonder we failed to qualify for 3 AFCON in recent years because of the epilepsy wururu standard created everyday to justify some mediocre players into the National team.

The bolded is the unit measurement used to determine a quality player in other countries. Naija I salute ooooooo.

charlesemeka85:
sentiment apart kelechi nwakali flopped in venlo before dropping to the dutch 2nd division where he had a decent season. notwithstanding he is still young and still have a lot to learn but his talent is obvious. kayode making the team of the month once during his stint with girona will not shadow the fact that he flopped big time in the league. a striker who couldnt score a goal from last summer when he joined girona till the winter transfer window before he joined schaktar donestk has no place in the current eagles set up.his resurgence in ukraine was too late for him to be included and rohr who have monitored him severally knows what he wants in a striker which i doubt kayode possesses. no doubt kayode is a good player but he really need to make good statement for him to deserve a place in rohr's team. kelechi nwakali from what i saw in his came yesterday is a work in progress but should not be rushed so that much expectation wont weigh him down. i advice he should be in the team after the world and serve as an understudy to aging john obi mikel.

After the match he made MOTM and la Liga team of the week, did he start the next match?

How many matches did he play afterwards before he left for Shakhtar Donetsk? Just 3 and he didn't play those matches as a striker rather S/S.

He played all all his matches from the wings or as a SS. Not striker.

So, how he flopped, I don't understand?

Oga! It was a known fact that Kayode demanded for transfer in January which added to his problem but later moved to Shakhtar Donetsk in April where he made an impact that saw him made the player of the month with the likes of Taison and Fred.

Look at the snapshot, after the two assists that got him the MOTM and team of the week, he was no longer in the team for no just reason. How can we say that is flop?

Forget the CF attached to him because I watched almost all the matches but he never played as a striker.

Joebie:
Kayode already got his chance and Rohr deemed him not good enough to make the 30 man list. Stop the crying. At least Kayode is young and can still fight another day. Let’s wait for Rohr’s final verdict on K.Nwakali post-Russia, and watch him grab it with both hands.

Modified
Eduok who scored 7 goals in the Turkish top flight last season was on the pitch yesterday. How did he perform? When u get ir chance u want the coach to remember u in his next invitation.

I thought two faced double standard fellows claimed he only made MOTM.

Now, na Rohr deemed him not enough.

How good do you want a player that made player of the month instantly with the likes of Taison and Fred in contention?

They are even going to the world Cup?

Now, Which chance did Rohr give?

Icon4s:
O boy you get time o.

Every time I spend here is costly.

How can spent time with amala and ewedu stew rubbing players?

andrew444:
Lol you have no clue man,keep on disgracing your self

Did kayode flop or not ? 12 games no goal and you don't want to call him flop?

Nwakali was loaned to another club he had a good stint in that club the first time he was loaned there.

Someone made team of the week no goals and no assist ? What are you smoking,you can't hide the fact you are a tribalist

This is coming from someone who defended and clarified Kelechi Nwakali's position but can't tell us what position Kayode played.

See him trying to put down his team of the week performance just to prove a point.

Thank God you are not those who deemed him good enough to make the list and noticed his ability else you have joined that Icon to scream, na amala boy, e will rub us with ewedu hence commot am for list.


Where did they loan him to? A division 2 club in the Dutch league.

Were you not one of those that mocked Kayode when you heard a rumor he was living la Liga for Amiens claiming because he was not good enough but surprisingly shocked to see him moved to Shakhtar Donetsk were you also claimed he was not going to see game time?


For your information, Kayode made the player of the month ahead of those players in Shakhter Donetsk. Sorry.

andrew444:
Yes nwakali is not good enough for SE no doubt but he is not a striker he is a central midfielder so how many goals do you want him to score ?

He played 30 games this season with 5 goals and 2 assist,so you want him to score as a striker ?

If this is the way you think stop watching football and stick to hockey...#anothermanwithnoclue#

You can say that again.

Joebie:
Kai Kayode was never a flop at Girona na cuz he won 1 MOTM. Wetin be the real criteria sef? Oya forgiveness just agree Kayode was a flop at LaLiga. Then we can now say he same about K.Nwakali.. No “double standards”

Kelechi Nwakali was not a flop so tey he was demoted to a lowly second division because no descent club in a decent league saw his exceptional ability, right?

At least, Kayode made the team of the week and was still noticed by a lowly second division 2 club, ooo Sorry, Shakhtar Donetsk with the likes of Taison and Fred going to the world Cup.


How can a flop player be noticed by such lowly club?

https://nigeriannewsdirect.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/la-liga.png

TheSuperNerd:
He returned to MVV because Arsenal believed he should be getting more game time beyond the time scraps he was getting at VVV Venlo. It was not for lack of ability. It was for game time. Simple.

You are just refusing to see the obvious truth. And K.Nwakali also had a few MOTM displays for MVV. I recall you said earlier that he didn't have. Look, just play it cool and balanced because when Kayode was also at a point not getting the daily 90mins his talent craved, you defended him saying that possibly the coach don't like or fancy him. Egbon... Please, Be fair and honest to the letter.

Why was he not getting game time if he was good enough?

How good was he that a better team didn't notice his ability for him to have gone to a lower division team where he didn't pull stuffs?