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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:32pm On May 25, 2018
komekn:
The biggest word in football to me is not ability but OPPORTUNITY. Opportunity will show case your talent and ability without opportunity your ability will amount to nothing.

What determines football player quality is CONSISTENCY of top performance. Every player can display a moment of Wow Effect. I can assure you there are non league players who can do this too. However, can you do it consistently that's the component that distinguishes OUTSTANDING QUALITY. That component will cause your outward d progression into better and bigger leagues and top clubs.

For me your club form is the overriding component and consideration. Although there will be exceptions for instance lack of opportunity in a big club like Chelsea, Barca, and or contention with Manager.

If a player is in a lower league I would expect him to be one of the most outstanding and consistent players in that league. Not relying on past youthful glories for the U17 Eaglets.

For instance Dele Alli, Ademola Lookman, Gomez, etc were catapulted from League one to the EPL the rest is history as we say.

My negative unfounded assumption is that there is a preference for former national youth players in giving them opportunity into the SE. Completely disregarding current performance and progression in whatever league or club they may be in.
Honestly, you have made a very important point that should not be discarded by a sane mind.

The bolded surely are the key points on your note.

Weldone sir. I salute.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:18pm On May 25, 2018
Mujtahida:
Na book you want make I write be that.
But let me give you a clue:from Africa to the black communities in America to the Carribean and the Americas blacks are the poorest, beat down race, despised, looked down upon and occupy the runt of history. Why is this so? Compare the black race to other races and you'd begin to realise there's something deeply wrong about the black race. I do not think it has to do with the color of his skin, nor with his geographical location. I feel the problem lies in the race consciousness. You cannot cheat consciousness. Your reality is the physical mirror of your inner consciousness.

Historians say we were once a proud and noble race setting the pace in science, medicine and technology. But something happened and ever since then we've gone down.
Watch youtube videos of Professor John Henry Clarke and download Blackman of the Nile and his family by Professor Yousef Ben Yochanan
I now get you. You are referring to the current blackman race.

The blackman race consciouness suffered due to the artificial impulses around their environment.

The truth is the colonial masters wipped away every great civilization that have to do with the blacks and created a kind of false history and image that blacks were uncultured, uncivilized, savaged etc race which they have inculcated into their subconsciouness unknownly.

The formation of Africa countries by the Europeans have been tailored and designed to fail blackman race in accondance with their milking agent.

But if they begin to know their history of greatness, it could help to reform their consciouness.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Kog45:
Thank you.There is need for us to up our analysis here cos this thread is just too valuable to a lot of guys cos they believe this is the only place to get accurate information and good analysis on eagles.

I was damn surprised hearing from this thread that the presence of Aina's Father can influence Rohr.
No this shouldn't have come out from this thread

Also hearing that Kelechi Nwakili should be drafted to main eagles cos of his performance against Atletico Madrid.

No it's not done that way.I remember James Obiorah had a great game in one of the friendly prior to France 98 but dropped cos we have better prepared players like Okocha,Lawal,Adepoju and Oruma but if we go by talent i will rate only Jayjay ahead of Obiorah.

No doubt about Nwakili abilities as a player but sometimes a good promising young player just need to wait and keep.on developing.The future is bright for the young man.

And now reading some comments on Moses really surprised me as if this is not the thread where we have great analysts who understand the game very well.

Did Rohr complain about Moses attitudes?No meaning there is great communication between Rohg likely Moses would join the team in London with Rohr approval.

World cup is very near and better for us to talk football in a very analytical way.
Really! shocked

Are you serious?

Is Iwobi and Ebuehi's fathers not in the camp too?

Won't they influence the coach too?

Why the double standard?

Besides, I got the feelings or impression here that Ebuehi is ahead of Aina because he's a Benfica player. Bhuuuhahaha! grin

Is that not a joke?

If Ebuehi is a Benfica player, what of Aina?

Aina has even played for Chelsea last season before Ebuehi even dreamt of Benfica but I somehow prefer Ebuehi because he has gained experience over two seasons in the Eredivise and that is very important for a defender.

It's not that Ebuehi is better or more talented than Ola but I just considered the experience he gained for two seasons and the fact that I don't want us to lose him at all.

If anyone doubt the talent part, let us compare their ratings through a reputable and independent analysts.

This whoscored snapshot is the ratings of Aina, Ebuehi, Brian and Shehu. Compare. Who is better?

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:20am On May 25, 2018
Martz101:
Kalu was named among top 50 promising prospect in europe with the likes of donurama, mbappe and pulisic.

you won't like to see that, my brother I'm not here to promote one player or bring down one player. I'm a fan of all Nigeria players including kayode and the rest
Rabiu Ibrahim was named among the top 'prospect' too but you know that didn't translate to his missionary football journey.

We are talking about the best performing Nigerian players in the Belgium pro league this season and which among the top 3 deserves a call-up to the National team. But as it stands, Samuel Kalu is not among the top 3. Fact.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:15am On May 25, 2018
Certitude:
I'll like to know what sir Michael have to say.
Who saved you from crashing out of the 2010 world cup? It was one legged Obafemi Martins.

Did I hear you say his short status is his undoing? Bhuuuhahaha! grin

Are you serious?

How tall is Messi? How tall is Aguero? grin


Does that mean Ighalo, Simy and Kelechi are better than these players? Bhuuuhahaha! grin

My Oga, Martins will bench Ighalo, Simy and Kelechi in any team.

He's not in the team because of injury. EOD
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:43am On May 25, 2018
jihday:
Hi guys, let's talk about our past world cup performances. I know we'll all agree that 1994 was our best outing, however which one do y'all think is our worst? for me I think it's 2010, we had all our important players from Martins to Osaze, Yak, kanu, Obasi, Yobo etc the only noticeable absentee was Mikel yet we struggled to gain just 1 point despite being in a relatively easy group. So let's have our say on Nigeria's worst World Cup outing
I think that 2010 team was very unfortunate.

We are doing well until Sani got a red card and Obasi also missed 1 or 2 one on one chances.

I think the change of coach affected the team.

Osaze and Martins who were crucial to our qualification were relegated to the bench.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:50pm On May 24, 2018
elyte89:
Wc take it easy...if I b lokosa,na ighalo leg I go dey target grin grin
hahahahaha! make em no try am oooo. grin

dem selve go dey play save na.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Humility017:
not surprised to anyone....you both reason alike..... wrong all the time.

just take a look at that one comment spilling trash that nwakali is using the super eagles boast his career...that he has no business in the SE.

only a thoroughly blind fellow will playdown nwakali display against Athletico.....
had it been he has a European passport he would have been in England still and not in netherland same with.... taiwo and Henry and also kayode...
our boys are deprived because of their background and not because they lack the talent....
so nwakali invitation and display yesterday shows that he merit the call up.... moreover he was called up obviously because of salisu quest to build a formidable under 23 team for next Olympic mudial...
Na lie be that?


So, those performing in Europe, their background no be here?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:19pm On May 24, 2018
Joebie:
Please friends, all SE reports now should be in green, as we usually have our debates in between.

Eagles Training: Simon Suffers Thigh Injury, GK Uzoho The Chosen One, Balogun & Ekong Partnership

Published: May 24, 2018

https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/football_pics/14085MosesSimon1.jpg

Allnigeriasoccer.com understands that Gent winger Moses Simon was unable to complete his first training session with the Super Eagles on Thursday morning after suffering what appears to be a thigh injury.

The winger had to be replaced by Leicester City striker Ahmed Musa for the remainder of the practice game.

The Super Eagles medical team had to wrap an ice pack to Simon's injured thigh and he looked okay after the treatment.

If today's training session is anything to go by, three players on the 30-man preliminary roster have their starting spots in Russia confirmed.

Deportivo de La Coruña starlet Francis Uzoho might be the chosen one in goal as he stayed behind after the practice game to get extra training drills from the goalkeeper coaches on how to goal-kick.

Gernot Rohr and his lieutenants did a lot of talking to William Troost-Ekong and Leon Balogun to help improve their communication in defense so that the unit can function well.

The two central defenders who were first choice during the World Cup qualifiers performed admirably in the workout.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

--ANS

Take it easy boys. We don't want injuries please.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:08pm On May 24, 2018
Mujtahida:
The black man race as a continuum. Not recent or medieval. Race consciousness
Can you pls throw more light about the consciousness of blackman race.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:00pm On May 24, 2018
chrisooblog:
4 league goals is still not impressive egbon that's the honest truth. even for simy 7 goals is not good enough but in his case he has been rewarded for consistent good form over the past few weeks. unfortunately no striker of nigerian origin has hit double digits so we have to settle for what is available.

i confused ogbeche's 2001/2002 stat for the 2002/2003 season so i was wrong when i said he scored 1 league goal prior to the world cup.

like i told you earlier i had no qualms with onigbinde taking bartholomew to the world cup as a promising talent but on the fact of his numbers sorry not good enough
Good you admit you were wrong. However, the fact still remains that there is no difference btw Ogbeche's performance then and Simy's performance then but the two faced double standard fellows criticized the inclusion of the former but defended and applauded the later. Why?

That's my point.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:54pm On May 24, 2018
Farzat:
Is any one still doubting that this guy is the same Forgiveness?
grin I am honored. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
chrisooblog:
lol without using google i dare you to name 5 other clubs apart from dynamo kiev in the ukrainian league and you say it's not a backwater

CSKA moscow sef get true european pedigree na

don't exaggerate he has started well in ukraine time will tell how good he will turn out but i wish him the best

it's your prerogative to question his non inclusion but he has not been pulling up trees to justify his callup 3 goals in 21 games is not super striker form
Shahktar and Dynamo are rated above CSKA Moscow.

In the top 5 leagues in the world two or one team are dominate in their respective leagues though EPL is an exception.

In Girona, he played as a SS. in Shahktar, 3 goals and 1 or 2 assists in 6 matches as a ST mostly. MOTM and Player of the month, his what he has been rewarded with in just a month. Judge.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Martz101:
you should no better

His playing in the Eerste Division because his principal club sent him out there

on scoring goals, that's not really how to judge game play, his progressing and will get there.

I don't understand your argument, he was not called up by Rohr but I'm very sure in the near future he will be there.
We didn't get this kind of explanation during Awoniyi's spell in the Bundusliga second division.

What we were outrightly told by the two faced double standard fellows was that Awoniyi flopped then because he is not good enough. These fellows stretched it so tey, they claimed he was fortunate to be in the under 17 world cup else he doesn't deserve to be there because he doesn't posses any talent. But suddenly changed mouth in regards to Nwakali siting special talent. grin

How were dey judging then and why is it different now? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:01pm On May 24, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Rohr Takes A Leaf Out Of World Cup-Winning Manager's Book: Eagles Wear GPS Trackers

European football tactician Gernot Rohr has taken a leaf out of Joachim Low's book, with the national team players wearing GPS trackers before the start of the training session. (see photo)

That small device was instrumental to the success of Germany winning the 2014 World Cup, Low decided to introduce Mario Gotze, who netted the winning goal, as a substitute over other options based on GPS data.

The GPS data will measure how the Super Eagles players perform in training games, the number of changes in direction, cardiac frequency variable that is monitoring of their heartbeats.

Rohr will be able to compare the players in camp and the information will assist him to know a player's level while with the national team.

As at the time this report, the players were taking part in a shooting practice before the start of the practice game.

**Ifeanyi Emmanuel


SOURCE: ANS
That's a good one.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:00pm On May 24, 2018
Joebie:
Ndidi Still Undergoing Special Training, Brighton Newbie Balogun & Joel Obi Looking Sharp
Published: May 24, 2018

https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/football_pics/2164Eagles31.jpg

Allnigeriasoccer.com understands that Leicester City star Wilfred Ndidi is on the road to full recovery and is expected to resume full training with the national team in the coming days.

The defensive midfielder jogged with the Super Eagles players at the start of Thursday morning's training session at
Godswill Akpabio International Stadium.

Ndidi was with the team for about ten minutes before he went on special training, he did some stretching exercises and ran on the sidelines but did not take part in the eleven-a-side practice game.

There are no more question marks surrounding the fitness of Torino midfielder Joel Obi and Brighton & Hove newbie Leon Balogun as both players participated in full training and looked sharp.

Leicester City striker Ahmed Musa and Bursaspor defender Abdullahi Shehu who reported for international duty on Wednesday have not been named in the stating line-up for the ongoing practice game.

Whilst Dele Ajiboye and Daniel Akpeyi were training with the goalkeeper coaches, Francis Uzoho and Ikechukwu Ezenwa were in goal for the practice match.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

--ANS
Good one for Joel Obi and I hope Ndidi is fit.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
komekn:
Ukraine league is rated No. 7 in Europe I wouldn't call it backwater.

Then add to it Shatter Donetsk a club with true European champions league pedigree.

He has actually made upward progression. Then to be winning MOTM awards in that league as well. He has performed much better than many who have been invited. He clearly deserves a call up. Add to that he is versatile can play on the wings with good pace.

I really do not see any rational reason why he shouldn't have been invited players in a few friendlies to have a good look at what he can offer.
Spot on. In addition, Shahkter Donestsk is the 14th highest ranking club in the world. What is the difference btw 7 and 8? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:42pm On May 24, 2018
komekn:
You are clearly misrepresenting the facts.

Kelechi does not train with Ozil, Sanchez and Ramsey.

He is playing in the Eerste Divisie 2nd tier of Dutch football. It is low and what's more concerning is he is not the stand out player in that low league.

He is currently just an Arsenal player on paper, a mere speculative business transaction that may possibly. yield some dividend.

Unfortunately there is a continous trend for reasons unknown to give former Nigerian youth players irrespective of current progression opportunities in the SE to the detriment of far better performing players.
This is an undiluted thruth. However, in addition, there is selective selection trending.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:39pm On May 24, 2018
komekn:
Kelechi is 20 or thereabouts and playing in the 2nd tier of Dutch football. He is not the outstanding player in that league. He is forward player i.e. AM and has a very poor goal return. And you call that FABULOUSLY WELL.huh

The Eerste Divisie is low, I rate it on the same level of league one if not lower. Considering that the Eredivisie is rated 14 in Europe and is the easiest league to score in within the top 20 leagues in Europe. I would say he is far from Fabulous.

Arsenal is very far away from him now.

He is using the SE to bolster his career otherwise he has no business being in the SE. Simply not good enough. There are too many players better who have not been given the opportunity to showcase thier talents.
You are right on point with the bolded. That is just the plain thruth. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:32pm On May 24, 2018
Martz101:
those stuani records does not stop kayode from displacing him. i still repeat, girona plays 2 strikers just like Leicester.

if kayode could not displace stuani why didnt he displace the second guy portu abi girona bought him just to be on the bench?
Just tell me the striker that can displace Stuani in our national team. That's all.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:29pm On May 24, 2018
obaaderemi:
Kibera walker just can't forget the beating forgiveness gave him. He badly wants round 2. Apparently, no one has time for him.
grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 9:28pm On May 24, 2018
Nowenuse:
I remembered how 'forgiveness' dealt with you on this highrise issue between Nigeria and Kenya many months ago.
I don't have that interest right now. Go back many pages
Buhahahahahahah! You better leave him in his delusion. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
tbaba1234:
In terms of actual recognition, only Samuel Kalu has been recognized officially by placing second in the awards..

Your so called "team of the season" was first posted in March by me and is not an official record of anything.

Officially, Kalu is the second best rookie in Belgium. He will have the award on his shelf now.
First of all, I want to congratulate Samuel Kalu for been voted the second young footballer of the year in Belgium. That's a good one.

Such recognition must be applauded and rewarded.

At this junction, I tender my unreserved apology and withdraw back my statement that he was not among the top 5 permoming Nigerian player the Belgium league in front of undeniable, unquestionable and legit evidence placed before me.

Yes! He is the officially recognized top Nigeria young player in the Belgium pro league.

However, the eligible age for the Belgium Young player of the year is under 21. It must not exceed. That explains the reason Peter Olayinka, Uche Agbo, Abdul Ajagun and Simon Moses who are above 21 were not considered for the award despite their splendid performance that triumph Samuel Kalu's performance this season . Therefore, it does not mean Samuel Kalu was better than these aforementioned players this season, though, he will dispose Awoniyi and Bonnoveture from the top 5 nigerian players that performed in Belgium because these are n the same age rang but obviously not better than the rest. grin

Example for clarification, Landry Diamata won the Young player of the year last season ahead of Youri Tielemans who came second behind him but the same Youri Tielemans was adjourned the best player of the Belgian league the same season. You see. grin

Therefore,he is going to be placed at bottom of the top 5 on my list but not among the top 3, sorry. grin

Besides, don't give false information here that award are given to the second voted young player of the year. It is not true. grin

I am not taking anything away from him though. It's a good one.

That first eleven young player team of the season is no fake. It is recognized too. Abi, Ebony award is not official to you because it is not among the official award too? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:38pm On May 24, 2018
cheesy
tbaba1234:
YET, Samuel Kalu just took second on the rookie of the year in Belgium.. Ahead of all the others, you mentioned.
Is Samuel Kalu among the Belgium pro league young team of the season? No

Awoniyi, Olayinka, Agbo make Belgium league’s Young Team of the Season

You can scroll up for the source. Fact
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:05pm On May 24, 2018
Martz101:
I'm not shocked atall, is it not you?

nothing from you can be a shock to me again
Maybe a neutral reliable source will shock you too. grin

Awoniyi, Olayinka, Agbo make Belgium league’s Young Team of the Season

By Abdulquadir Adedapo - March 28, 2018 561 0
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Former U-17 World Cup-winning striker, Taiwo Awoniyi, has been named as one of the eleven best players under the age of 23 in the just concluded Belgium league regular season after a string of impressive displays with Royal Excel Mouscron, AOIFootball.com reports.



The on-loan Liverpool attacker, who scored 7 goals with 5 assists, leads the attack in a 4-3-3 formation which also includes two Nigerians Uche Agbo of Standard Liege and Peter Olayinka of Zulte Waregem.

Olayinka, on his part, joins the front three after scoring 8 goals in the regular season while also adding 4 assists to his name in 23 games played, starting in all of the games he featured in this season.

While Agbo who was part of Nigeria’s friendly match against Poland and Serbia, he forms a midfielder trio after impressing for Standard Liege that made it into the Championship playoff round.

Uche Agbo scored one goal all season, had an impressive passing accuracy of 87% while also averaging well over 80% of passes completion per game.

Agbo remains part of Eagles’ Coach, Gernot Rohr’s World Cup plan while Awoniyi on the other hand must continue to work hard if he’s to stand any chance of been a part of the World Cup party to Russia later in June.

http://aoifootball.com/2018/03/28/awoniyi-olayinka-agbo-make-belgium-leagues-young-team-of-the-season/

Where is Samuel Kalu?

Don't even compare his stats with Bonaventure Boniface and Abdul Ajagun. He down the pecking order.


Snapshot 1 Bonaventure
Snapshot 2 Abdul

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:58pm On May 24, 2018
kennysville:
You be the judge of that. Are you an agent? Yes or No? grin grin grin
Hahahahahaha! Of course. N O... NO grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:53pm On May 24, 2018
Martz101:
JOKER
Are you shocked? grin

That is fact. Sorry. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:43pm On May 24, 2018
Martz101:
You ask if Kalu is one of our top 3 performer in eagles and i said yes and you are asking for the other 3

if you disagree with my yes then you should be the one to list the players better than him
Samuel Kalu is not near top 5 Nigerian performing players in the Belgium pro league. GBAM.

No 1. Peter Olayinka

No 2. Taiwo Awoniyi

No 3. Uche Agbo

No 4. Boniface Bonaventure

No 5. Abdul Ajagun


He is not near top 5.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:45pm On May 24, 2018
Mujtahida:
I'm not talking about individuals. I'm talking about blackman as a race.
The recent or the medieval blackman race?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:19am On May 24, 2018
Afobear:
Nigerian team is wack and I can't wait to see the festival of goals they will concede this mundial . If you like all you beer parlour analysts here ,you can' quote me and say shit but I will never gratify you by replying you
Hahahahahaha! Seriously, I hope you are a Nigerian?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:04am On May 24, 2018
Mujtahida:
black man suffered a collapse in his consciousness. I really can't figure out how he'd regain himself.
There are black men with integrity and vision.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:26am On May 24, 2018
Martz101:
YES
List the other two make I see.

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