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safarigirl:
if you have not noticed forgiveness and tribalism, you have not been following this thread judiciously...

How many times will he even bring up a foreigner who isn't named Ola-something?

The only moniker here that is pro-foreign in it's truest form is komekn....forgiveness is pro-Yoruba.

Only a thief knows the way of a thief. If not, how can you decipher a theif or thieves among the congregation of 'Saints'?

You mean by bringing up names like 'Ola-something', you formed your thought and vehemently affirmed that one is obviously a tribalist and a pro - Yoruba?

If you are intelligent enough you would have checked with verified facts to know if the name 'Ola-something' at that point in time really deserves to be giving a look at, or merits a call to the national team, but you feel disgusting whenever you see those names been mentioned and doing well at the detriment of your preferred love(your kind), ba?


Get this straight to your brain that I forgiveness can't be intimidated or bullied to stop bringing to light any player or players worthy/notable of mentioning, discussing and dignifying whether from the east, West or North, provided he performs as required by standard.


Keep your tribal preying eyes down to decipher who and who aren't your kinsmen and make sure you check your vp else you..... because I never start at all at all

Humility017:
I doubt if he ever allow education pass through him...

there is no wisdom in the way he talks

Are you not ashamed that an 'uncultured' one asked you a simple question yet you are unable to give a tangible reasonable answer other than na Tribalism?

Joebie:
They said a section of the country employed him. That has been the sentiments oh. Ironically Pinnick is an itsekiri man who are very much like Yorubas ethnically

Who doesn't know the NFF has been polarized with majority from some section of the country?

Who doesn't know that their decisions always goes in favour or influence the selection of coaches from some section of the country for all the national teams in the country?


Wait for the under 17, 20 and 23 coaches to be announced then we go know something.

Somebody has already made it clear that one section of the country will no longer smell coaching the national teams. Abi you know see that one?

safarigirl:
he can go on another self exile and never return sef, he will not be missed.

How can someone just come here and be causing trouble and we are all expected to ignore him in the name of peace? This man is supposed to be older than majority of us on this thread, so why should we act mature on his behalf?

I don't care what anyone says, as long as he continues to make biased calls, I will keep pointing out the obvious.

Now that emotion has taken over you, calm down and talk with facts and sense. Prove your facts as a learned of whom you are, by providing one tangible fact from my quote that supports your 'claims' that 'I am causing troubles' and 'I am bringing up tribalism here or that I am the initiator and author of tribalism on this thread.'

Don't show to the world that you are a babbler, a false accuser, a one sided biased supporter and a trouble maker.

Show me else remain silent. At least, it will be counted for intelligence.

Humility017:
you're so uncultured...
writing like someone who never went to school....
sometimes the way u talk eeehhh...

Hahahahahah! What is uncultured? If I no go school e concern you?

The cultured one, tell me why Onyekuru is better than Simon Moses and Ahmed Musa?

I hope you answer with sense with all the education you have acquired? Mr Cultured and tribalism.

safarigirl:
it is hard, if not impossible, to read anything forgiveness posts without bringing in tribalism. It is only if we want to turn a blind eye to his apparent bias that you will expect anyone not to see a pattern of favouring his gbegiri boys

The way some expect others not to react to what is staring you in the face is befuddling. If you don't want to state the obvious, don't expect others not to or to simply ignore. I reserve the right to call out anything suspicious...

Just read the rubbish oga forgiveness is writing here...

Kayode better than Onyekuru
Kayode more deserving of a call up than Nwakaeme
Awoniyi better than Iheanacho

He won't even pause to ask why certain people were called up and their impact in the game like many others have done thus far, all he sees is how Gernot Ikechukwu Rohr is favouring a certain section of the country

For the love of God! Are we to ignore this pattern? No, let us keep tribalism away by ignoring the one person who always brings it up with his posts.

Nobody brings up tribalism on this thread until forgiveness shows up. Maybe for once, you should stop telling other people not to state the obvious and CALL OUT FORGIVENESS on his BS

Hahahahahah! @bolded is very funny but...

Is Onyekuru better than Kayode? state your facts and stop the drama.

Kayode is more deserving to be called based on Rohr's excuse. GBAM!

Based on past glory theory some claimed, Taiwo Awoniyi is better than Iheanacho. Ask them not me.

If Rohr Ikechuckwu is favouring a certain section of the country, he can't be blamed because he was employed by a certain section of the country. GBAM!

If you reserve the right to call out any anything suspicious, is it solemnly bestowed on you? Don't I have the reserved right to do likewise as you are just doing?

As you can see, I am doing what you think is right. So, spare me and stop speaking from both sides of your mouth. That is called hypocrisy.

Where did you see tribalism on my post? Show me or remain silent.

Danielnino00:
Honestly it may be hard for him to blend in well there.. As we all know he performs better as a supporting striker and Leicester usually play 4-4-2. They rely more on Vardy's speed and Mahrez tricks to beat their opponents. Nacho may have a hard time adjusting there but I hope not...

Mahrez tricks are useless and only meant for his selfish self.

If Iheanacho was in his place, he for don assist tey tey. Very painful Manchester United won the match.

Humility017:
I tell you....they're many here you will never know where they hail from...reason because of their sound arguement and debate deviod of sentiments....
but definitely not the case wit others...
I am a political inclined person...I avoid politics thread because of these.....

often the thread is polarized along two poles wit tribal monsters feasting on each other.....

Hahahahahah! See referee untop em own matter.

Since, you have agreed that you're political inclined person, and going by the definition of politics and why people go into politics, you are not different from those of your accusers....

What is.? Humility017 na Tribalism... Haha! I never ask question finish na. Were wayoooo!

Humility017:
bro...you're wasting your time talking to him.
I have already made know...the reason for his argument...simply looking at the names of the players will tell you that.

Are the players mentioned doing well? Humility017 answer na Tribalism... Hahahaha!

Chai! I don die.

Joebie:
None of these players got immediate call up when they started performing. Why should Olayinka's case be different? That's where the sentiments really is. Iheanacho has earned his place in the team he won't get fizzled out over night. Suck it in. This is not a case of anyone hating on a specific player. We all know how it took Odey a while before he got his chance. Olayinka's case won't be different. For now Onyekuru is already in the SE set up. Olayinka should wait to grab his chance. Let's all stop this A versus B argument. There is no foul play in selection, in the first place. If you believe otherwise try to pass your message to the appropriate quarters instead of nagging on an ordinary forum like nairaland

Onyekuru is never in the SE set. GBAM!

I have the right to decide where to express myself and I will do it here on NAIRALAND oh ha!.

Iheanacho is past glory according to some people past glory theory not mine.

Peter Olayinka has scored again. Based on past glory, ONYEKURU AND IHEANACHO are not qualified to be called, ba?

AndreTAyodeji:
Hey,you know you dont have to say that because its an insult but i will turn a blind eye to that because i believe in healthy arguments.However,your statement saying Nwaekeme has proved his mettle on a higher level and Kayode hasn't because you probably prefer Nwaekeme to Kayode is belittling.

GBAM!

Joebie:
UEFA league qualification is a higher stage than the domestic league. Nwakaeme is the best player in Israel just a Kayode was voted the best in Austria. I only made a statement of fact. CAF champions league is a higher stage than the domestic league -- bringing it home.

Is UEFA league qualification higher than Europa league? Kayode scored 2 goals and gave an assist in the EUROPA league. He also scored 3 goals and gave 2 assists in the Europa league qualification stage. He has moved on to be signed by Manchester City and now playing in the la liga.

Kayode still better. Don't forget that just as Nwakaeme was the 3rd joint highest goal scorer in the Isreali league last season, Kayode was the 3rd joint highest goal scorer in the Isreali league 4 seasons ago before he moved to Austria. Kayode is more experienced than Nwakaeme. That's it.

Icon4s:
There is nothing like past Glory in this case. How old is the season?

We know the individual capabilities of these players.

Going by the way some people reason here we will be having different sets of 23 players every match.

The truth is I do not have any problem with the list though can't accept Rohr's excuses for excluding Kayode but I somehow agreed with his inclusion of Nwakaeme because he is big, strong,tall and inform ( I am not sure ofhis reliability).

However, I can't accept people claiming Onazi, Musa and Simon Moses were chosen based on past glory when I know their preffered players have done nothing this season.

Humility017:
it seems....you lack manners.
just don't wanna come to your level...these evening...
it's like you're pained so pained...
let me leave rest

hahahhhahhhahha! I no talk am say he will not tell how Nwakaeme has played at the higher stage than Kayode? Na manner em come dey lecture now. Bhahahahahahaha!

Mister man, I am calm and cool but at the same time .....i can treat you the way you approach..... take ya time ooooo.

Humility017:
if there should be any mumu talk...
just re-read your write ups
and tell which is mumu and irrational talk.
your stance regarding comparing nacho wit awoniyi should prove that....

How did Nwakeame proved himself at higer stage than Kayode? Humility017 answer na Tribalism.... Is that not mumunism?

If you have better answers than that den share. Don't pollute dis thread with ya dirty tribalism answers. thanks

Icon4s:
Who is saying the squad was selected based on past glory?

And how do you define past Glory in this context?

scroll and read comments that supposed Musa, Onazi and Simon Moses were included based on past glory.

Humility017:
please just leave him...
the side obviously want more of his tribal men in the SE.....
[quote author=Humility017 post=59844642]stop playing to the galary....just say you want more of your tribal men in the SE and we all will understand...as simple as that
you mean same awoniyi who is just finding his place now.....
even in that Belgium league....nacho is far ahead....very far.

had it been rohr was a Nigerian....he would have been called a tribalist by now[/quote]na dis kind mumu talk no gree me come here. If you ask him how Nwakeame played at the higher level than Kayode na Tribalism will go commot for em mouth.

Joebie:
I hope you are being sarcastic again. Nwakaeme has prooved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode. Iheanacho has always been better than Awoniyi.

Chisos! Nwakeame proved his mettle at a higher stage than Kayode! bhahahahaha! Are you serious?

Oya, explain how, when and where he played at the higer stage.

goldfish80:
I'm surprised you didn't mention Olayinka. The guy have been the best Nigerian player in Europe this season so far. He has been tearing teams to pieces all season. Apart from. Victor Moses, no winger in this SE team can lace his boots as I speak.
No jokes .

I know Olayinka has been doing well majorly as a RW with 4 assists, and has scored the only goal as a CF and with an assist yet people are talking about past glory. I just intentionally excluded him before then give me name.

Icon4s:
Be sincere, go back to our list of strikers and tell me Awoniyi would have displaced anyone of them. Remember Olanrewaju Kayode and Henry Onyekuru did not even make it.

Does this not translate instead to the fact that our attack is more competitive than that of Cameroon?

Based on the theory past glory Awoniyi will displace Iheanacho. simple.


Kayode is more experienced and better than Nwakeam

Mickael2:
Onazi was not better than Ndidi in this match against SA, and in the match against Senegal when he left we got better. so I don't know where your claim is coming from. I could care less who is better between Azubuike and Raheem, none of them will start the matches anyways so that's a personal opinion.

next time you ever say that Moses Simon is a more complete player than Henry I will know you just came back from a smoking spree. which Moses Simon? and don't give me that stuff about his crosses doing this and that, for a winger who plays for the top club in Belgium to only hit 5 assists a whole season what does that tell you?! not to mention that more than half of that is from set pieces. mind you, he did not score a single set piece goal last season, or if he did it was just once but I can't find that anywhere, so what us special about his set pieces exactly? should I mention goals? it took Suarez about 3 months to score his first goal for Barcelona so I don't understand your point. and the season is just 3 or so games old, so because.... Roberto scored in the first game of the season he will now be the highest goal scorer come the end of the season? not to mention that the only goal credited to Anderletch had Onyekuru written all over it, Moses Simon last u checked has hardly played this season, should I show you the stats?

show me facts, shikena!

What is your defination of complete and tell me why Onyekuru is better and more complete than Simon Moses? I want facts.

Who told you Simon Moses played as a winger last season?

How many assist does he(Oyekuru) have this season? zero out of all the matches played so far. So. how is he better than Simon Moses?

Atleat, Moses was incharch of tacking set pieces for his club and he can score with a free kick, can that be said of Oyekuru?

Na lie you lie, Moses has more game time than Onyekuru in all competition this this season. ntor!

[quote author=Kog45 post=59841839][/quote]You dey mind dem.

As you rightly said, I am also ok with Onazi and Ndidi but excluding Onazi completely from the league for Mikel Agu who is also in the Turkish league, alongside Ogu and Esiti, is a no no for me'

On Simon and Musa, I think the goal is to bring inOnyekuru whom I think is good but not better than the two. They are just deceiving demselves.

Mickael2:
I did mention that Onazi should be a utility player. I like the guy honestly, he is the kind of guy everybody wants to have in a squad but not the first team. he can be a stopgap solution for a lot of positions although he may not be necessarily fantastic in any of the said positions but takeaway nothing from him, he can act as a pretty good impersonator there, like RB, LB, DMF and CMF but as a starter? based solely on present form, that would be a No No for me, like you said he can pick up his form again.

Moses Simon isn't all that bad but his decision making is bad, he always tends to cut outside instead of cutting inside and his crosses are just so poor, makes you wonder why he can't just reinvent his game as an inverted winger. no need crossing the ball when you know you can't cross, just cut in and try something different, alas he hasn't learnt that yet and he keeps on putting in awful crosses. now we have a pool of young wingers who can cut inside, cut outside and still put in a decent delivery so he needs to go back to the drawing board now, the bench isn't even supposed to be for him.

Ahmed Musa for me is just there. in almost all the big games he has played he has always bottled great chances. at the AFCON final in 2013, dude was clean through but somehow he fell down, I can't forget that scene ever, and Burkina Faso countered but thank God Enyeama was :/ top form and that was how we managed to hold on. against SA dude was missing one on one chances like they were long range shots. it was an eyesore, personally we may want to consider playing the guy as a LWB. just think about.....

Costa-Iheanacho/ Nwakaeme
Pedro-Kayode/ Onyekuru
Hazard-Victor Moses(obviously)
Alonso-Ahmed Musa/Etebo
VicMo-Aina/Ebuehi(include the other RBs here)
Matic-Mikel obviously/Iwobi as deputy or OGU
Kante-Ndidi for me/Onazi/Agu/Azubuike
Cahil-Ekong
Luiz-Ogu
Azpilicueta-Balogun

the problem is that we do not have a tactically astute coach who is willing to play these players in their natural positions

Nwakeam scored 13 Goals last season in the Israeli league, the coach and his cronies have quickly included him on the list by excluding Kayode Olanrewaju who had scored the same numbers of goals in the said league 3 or 4 seasons ago (but conspicuously overlooked).

Last season, he was not included in the list despite the fact that he scored goals and assisted in the Europa league but was latter included after public outcry, and when he came, he was not played in some matches and introduced in the second half.

After winning the best player of the year and the highest goal scorer in the Austrian league Manchester City noticed him but our national team coach ignored him due to some advice from na my brother somebody.


My point is Israeli league has suddenly become the alfa and the omega, ba, because of NWAKEAM but when Kayode was there, it was an obscure league.

Who una dey deceive?

NWAKEAM is not better than what is on ground but we know na we we dey at play.

Mickael2:
I did mention that Onazi should be a utility player. I like the guy honestly, he is the kind of guy everybody wants to have in a squad but not the first team. he can be a stopgap solution for a lot of positions although he may not be necessarily fantastic in any of the said positions but takeaway nothing from him, he can act as a pretty good impersonator there, like RB, LB, DMF and CMF but as a starter? based solely on present form, that would be a No No for me, like you said he can pick up his form again.

Moses Simon isn't all that bad but his decision making is bad, he always tends to cut outside instead of cutting inside and his crosses are just so poor, makes you wonder why he can't just reinvent his game as an inverted winger. no need crossing the ball when you know you can't cross, just cut in and try something different, alas he hasn't learnt that yet and he keeps on putting in awful crosses. now we have a pool of young wingers who can cut inside, cut outside and still put in a decent delivery so he needs to go back to the drawing board now, the bench isn't even supposed to be for him.

Ahmed Musa for me is just there. in almost all the big games he has played he has always bottled great chances. at the AFCON final in 2013, dude was clean through but somehow he fell down, I can't forget that scene ever, and Burkina Faso countered but thank God Enyeama was :/ top form and that was how we managed to hold on. against SA dude was missing one on one chances like they were long range shots. it was an eyesore, personally we may want to consider playing the guy as a LWB. just think about.....

Costa-Iheanacho/ Nwakaeme
Pedro-Kayode/ Onyekuru
Hazard-Victor Moses(obviously)
Alonso-Ahmed Musa/Etebo
VicMo-Aina/Ebuehi(include the other RBs here)
Matic-Mikel obviously/Iwobi as deputy or OGU
Kante-Ndidi for me/Onazi/Agu/Azubuike
Cahil-Ekong
Luiz-Ogu
Azpilicueta-Balogun

the problem is that we do not have a tactically astute coach who is willing to play these players in their natural positions

Onazi was still miles better than Ndidi in the last game against South Africa hence the need to play him ahead of Ndidi and Agu. Azubuike is not as good as Raheem Lawal.


Simon Moses is a far better and complete player than Onyekuru. His crosses are meant for strikers with the ability on air and the ability to read matches. His crosses are not meant for Iheanacho who is only good with foot.

If he's not good enough, why is he still playing regularly for Gent?

If he's not good enough, why was he lading with the responsibilities of taking set pieces for his club last season?

5 goals and 7 assists from playing 4-5 different roles last season for his club is not a joke.

Why is Onyekuru not scoring goals since he joined a bigger club?

Joebie:
Ok u were being sarcastic

There you are.

Joebie:
Recent national team stats Nko? If we keep changing our team based on players most recent matches at club level, will we have a team?

Hehehehe! You misunderstood me greatly.

BascoVanVeli:
Iheanacho has not been playing because his club was working on a deal for him that could end up being worth 50 million pounds. With that information in hand u would have to be drunk to omit him.

Yes! Rohr is drunk to have omitted Kayode Olanrewaju from the list because he gave the same reason for omitting him due to the deal that worth replacing Iheanacho with Kayode Olanrewaju. I hope with this information u would have been high on shepe or ogogoro to omit him. Bhuuuhahaha!

Rohr is a bloody lai....r.

How many matches has Shehu Abdullahi played in that lowly obscure league? Just one yet the liar claimed Kayode Olanrewaju didn't have enough play time but surprisingly Girona deemed it fit to had brought Kayode on against a bigger team like Athletico Madrid, ba?


Some people can lie for money.

If at the end of the day, some players are found in the 'backyard league' of Turkey's league but are still preferred ahead of players doing very well in the same league and even in a better league (Belgium pro league) then I know say sand sand don dey pass garri.


Personal interest don take over National interest be that.

Some people don dey come chop dere vomit as dem don start to dey celebrate Turkish league because of dem bois


I just dey observe ooooooo.

Based on past glory theory some players should not be on the list.

Number one on the list is HENRY ONYEKURU. Zero goal, zero assist and *cough*that's it.

Number two on the list is KELECHI IHEANACHO... Zero goal, zero assist and 8 minutes of game time. Chisos!

While Ahmed Musa don score for the only match he played and Moses Simon has done nothing special as Henry though he has more game time than Onyekuru yet some people want them out just because of ONYEKURU.

Can Onyekuru play free kick better than Simon Moses? can Onyekuru play SS, RM, AM, LM & CF better than Moses Simon?

OK, Taiwo Awoniyi has scored 1 goal and assisted twice in 3 matches, why is he not mentioned or called? Is this not present glory?

Based on Rohr claims of lack of game time one player ought not to be in the team..

Kelechi Iheanacho......

Why did Rohr exclude Kayode Olanrewaju? Mafians ruling the national team as a cult. I guess.

pyrex23:
bros....where has thou been?
Welcome back

On self imposed exile of course! I never come oooo.