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Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness:
Nowenuse:
OBJ wasted 8 years of our lives. Even GEJ 6 years was better than OBJ's 8 years.
OBJ did almost nothing on improving electricity, what did he do about diversifying our economy? Improving agriculture and industrialization? Allowing telecoms into Nigeria, is that an achievement?
Infact Yar'adua's 2 yrs of presidency was better than OBJ's 8 years. Someone that openly declared genocide on his people. Gosh!
Obasanjo achievements:
Telecommunications: this is one of the reasons you are using Internet, watching Manchester United, Chelsea and foreigner news, social media, Nairaland etc they are too numerous.

Banking sector:
Gone are the days you put money under ya bed. grin
Gone are the days you carry bulk of money from Onitsha to Lagos, Lagos to Onitsha, the reason for crimes along our Inter States roads.
Robbery has reduced on this roads. Thanks to the improved banking sector.

Railway infrastructures

Dept forgiveness

Allowed continuous democracy
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:18am On Apr 24, 2017
[quote author=TayserMahiri post=55784109]My goodness, talk of chaos abi? WHy would people not pay bills? Do they want free water? I am not sure I would trust borehole water at all in a city esp like Gidi grin grin/quote]

Because water was free in those days.

Boreholes water are not well waters. They are clean water from the rocks beneath the soil and they are still treated with a machine before consumption.

Sewage are built in such a way that the waste can't escape into the soil. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:10am On Apr 24, 2017
terzurum5:
So far a good number of players on the list of Sir Forgiveness have done enough to deserve a look in by the national team handlers, except Dominic Solanke an Ajagun.

I think we wrere in a hurry to read meanings to his list.

My unreserved appology Sir!

*Modified*
Hehehehe! But Ajagun was on the team of the week last week na and Dominic Solanke will be going to a big Club next season, na. grin

Anyway, I just want talk my own and that's all. grin

Thanks oga
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 10:00am On Apr 24, 2017
MtuMsuper:
There is not a single Southern african country with native official language except SA. Get your facts right.
Swaziland
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:10pm On Apr 22, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
That is your problem. Playing better is scoring too goals. It is not. It is more about creating good chances. Some times the goals enters. Some times it does not. We played better in both games. The question is, can you watch the match and judge which team is playing better.

Here is an excerpt of Delph.



“We were the better team by far – by a country mile,” said Delph. “But goals win games and we have not managed to score more than them. We’ve got great attacking players and they have been great all season but we fell short. I’m sure the next games they will be more clinical."

It was after that game that I was raving about how impressive Fabian Delph was. Even though we lost and missed chances, I was impressed with our brilliant play.
Bhuuuhah! Manchester City is doing the playing while Chelsea is doing the scoring and winning. grin

That's cool.... grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:44pm On Apr 22, 2017
terzurum5:
[b]Russia-born Brian Idowu told not to commit to Nigeria[/]

https://mtnfootball.com/bp_images/2017/04/placeholder_nigeria1_150x150.jpg

Amkar Perm coach Gadzhi Gadzhiev has advised defender Brian Idowu to wait for a call up from the Russian senior national team.


The 24-year-old was born in St. Petersburg in Russia and his father is a Nigerian, while his mother is half Russia, half Nigerian.


Iduwu was called up by Nigeria coach Gernot Rohr last year, but Russian tactician Gadzhiev told the left-back not to commit to the Super Eagles.


”When Brian received the offer to play for Nigeria, he turned to me for advice. My position was simple," Gadzhiev said on OwnGoalNigeria.com.


"I recommend him to take time to develop his skills, to become better and stronger and hope that he’ll get the opportunity to play for the Russian national team.


"If that doesn’t happen , he can always come back and talk with the Nigerian national team."


Idowu has featured in 20 Russia Premier League matches for Perm this season - netting against Orenburg last December.

mtnfootball.com/mobi/news/703014/Russia-born-Brian-Idowu-told-not-to-commit-to-Nigeria

cc: Forgiveness
Na who go loose? Na me? grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 7:08pm On Apr 21, 2017
MtuMsuper:
There is a dearth of information regarding water, sanitation and all things appertaining on Nigeria on the internet. Even your federal/state agencies are wanting You just hit a brick wall everytime you try and research. Its frustrating, hence the only way we can solve this is for a knowledgeable head to weigh in.
Until then , i will have to rely on what I've been told by a first hand observer and what Obi1kenobi has affirmed. That is there is no organised and standardised water and sewer reticulation in Nigeria.

Ps: You can tax folks all you want when they dig boreholes. Is that sustainable. With septic tanks all up and down the place. would you trust the water you drink? Dont you think regulation is a good and Necessary thing?
https://www.youtube.com/embed/J4nG5rp6-Ik?enablejsapi=1&autoplay=0&cc_load_policy=0&iv_load_policy=1&loop=0&modestbranding=0&rel=1&showinfo=1&playsinline=0&autohide=2&theme=dark&color=red&wmode=opaque&vq=&controls=2&


http://www.lagoswater.org/
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 5:23pm On Apr 21, 2017
MtuMsuper:
There is a dearth of information regarding water, sanitation and all things appertaining on Nigeria on the internet. Even your federal/state agencies are wanting You just hit a brick wall everytime you try and research. Its frustrating, hence the only way we can solve this is for a knowledgeable head to weigh in.
Until then , i will have to rely on what I've been told by a first hand observer and what Obi1kenobi has affirmed. That is there is no organised and standardised water and sewer reticulation in Nigeria.

Ps: You can tax folks all you want when they dig boreholes. Is that sustainable. With septic tanks all up and down the place. would you trust the water you drink? Dont you think regulation is a good and Necessary thing?
Information dey if you know the right source.


Premium Times Nigeria
INTERVIEW: How we’re increasing Lagos water from current 200 to 700 million gallons daily – Corp. boss

Ben Ezeamalu
2 months ago
Muminu Badmus, Group Managing Director, Lagos Water Corporation
Muminu Badmus, Group Managing Director, Lagos Water Corporation
In this interview with PREMIUM TIMES, the Group Managing Director of the Lagos Water Corporation, Muminu Badmus, speaks about the challenges of providing water to over 20 million residents, the poorly-maintained water infrastructures, and the planned PPP in the water sector.

PT: What are some of the challenges you have faced since assuming office in November 2015?

Badmus: We met challenges on the ground when I came and we are actually working in to overcome those challenges. Some of the challenges are easy to overcome some are not; those easy ones we have really overcome them. The two major, actually it’s three problems that we have, one of them is the PHCN – the power – and the second one is explosion of population in Lagos State. Lagos State is like United States of America where everyone wants to come so our population increases almost every day and that is also putting more burden on the water supply. Our design capacity remains at 210mgd (million gallons per day), whereas with the population that we have now, over 20 million, we should be given about 700mgd. So the gap is about 500 million gallons per day.

PT: What’s the actual capacity as at today? How much are you producing?

Badmus: We have design capacity of 210 million gallons per day.

PT: But how much are you producing currently?

Badmus: We are producing about 140- 150mgd, that’s what we are producing. It’s less and that’s simply because of a lot of unaccounted-for water, which starts from our facility, the Water Works, all the way to the household where we deliver water. It’s less than the required water consumption for the number of citizens. So we should be producing about 700 million gallons per day, supplying about 700 million gallons but we are only doing about 200 million. And the efforts we have been making to make sure that…and the government has been doing a lot of work in that and he has been assisting us a lot here is to…we have received an approval for PPP for 100 million gallons, it’s called Odomola PPP Water Works which will come from Odomola and it will supply all the way to Victoria Island. And another one is the one that we have now – we have the Expression of Interest advertised now. That one is 70 million gallons per day, that will be Adiyan 2.

And what we have on the ground now: we have Adiyan 1 which is already existing, that’s 70mgd (70million gallons per day); we have Iju, 45 million gallons per day; and then we have Upper Ikosi 4 mgd. We have Ishasi, 4 million gallons per day, then we have the mini water works, about 46 of them, all over the state and they vary between 1 and 3 mgd each. Those are the existing ones.

But we are bringing in now the 100 million gallons from Odomola as PPP, 70 milion gallons Adiyan 2, from Adiyan, and Expression of Interest was recently advertised, and we are still taking in, I think it will expire February 24, I believe. Once we get those, it will take time, it will take about two to three years to get those two and we have other ones that will be coming on broad too. And the plan is to rehabilitate the mini water works that we have. We are forwarding the proposal to the state to assist us and the state has been really helping us to do some work on them and the state is committed to at least rehabilitate those mini water works pending the completion of those big, large water works that we are expecting.

PT: What do you say to arguments against the PPP? A lot of people, including civil societies, have campaigned against it; that why is Lagos State going into a PPP when it can afford the water provision by itself? What do you say to that?

Badmus: I think people are mistaking PPP to be privatization, there is difference between the two. Yes, we do have some hiccups when we first started the discussion on the PPP, that people do not really understand, up till now people still confuse it. But PPP is not privatization, the state would still be in control, Lagos Water will still be in control. We will be working hands in hands with the investors that will be bringing money in; we are not giving away those facilities for them to run. The water that will be produced will still be in the name of Lagos Water Corporation. So we are able to convince some and we are still working with those people to explain to them why we have to go on this PPP, this is a big task for the state. And that’s why…

PT: (Cuts in) And you’re sure the water would not be priced out of the reach of the ordinary Lagosian, in terms of the cost?

Badmus: Right now we are paying like N2 for Mai ruwa (water vendors), and as I speak the water we are supplying is only 5 kobo per litre. There’s no way… and some people are making arguments that the water should be free; yes, the water is free but you have to treat the water. The diesel for instance…because we have to use diesel a lot, I told you earlier that the challenge we have is power, we use diesel a lot – N315 that’s what we are buying it from our suppliers, N300 – N315. When I came here, when I first resumed here it was less than N100, the same thing with chemicals. Our Forex is also contributing to this, it’s not really helping. So your question on the tariff, whether it will be higher or not, it would not. We are making sure that it is way less compared to what they are buying water out there now. And right now the World Bank is doing a tariff studies for us, the entire state, and when that is completed that will also be considered in whatever the tariff will be. We know very well five kobo is way out of line, but we have not since increased any of our traffic and we are hoping that will be… also the PPP itself is not profit driven at all, it’s not profit driven. Yes, that is considered when we are reviewing those things to make sure that it’s not profit driven.

PT: So how will the companies recoup their investments?

Badmus: They will recoup, they will make their money, of course, they’ll make some profit out of it but it’s not profit as people look at maybe to double or triple whatever they’re bringing in. Let me also make a correction on what I said earlier about the Adiyan, the Expression of Interest that was advertised is for the reticulation and the network, the State is already building the water works (Adiyan 2) and right now the cost to build that is about N57 billion which the state is paying for and that shows right there that the State is really investing in water in addition to paying for operating and maintenance for the existing one, they are building a big one right now that will be 70mgd and now the State is saying let’s bring investors in that will help us with the networks and the reticulations for the Adiyan 2.

PT: I was at Iju and Adiyan 1 water works recently and the picture is that of very poorly-maintained infrastructure. In Iju, only about two pumps were working and Adiyan 3-4 pumps. And now you are talking of building new water works. How are you going to ensure these new ones don’t face the same maintenance issues?

Badmus: Operating and maintenance have been a major problem all over the country and that is why we are looking into that with the new ones that we are bringing right now. And we have also developed O & M (Operating & Maintenance) for the existing ones. We are going in right now and building some of those things that are lacking, those ones that need improvement, or the new ones so that at least it can carry us to the time that we will have this and so we can produce more water. The reason why you mentioned earlier about what we are producing versus the design capacity is because of the ageing infrastructures and if we don’t maintain those infrastructure they will be failing gradually. Yes, we have been catching up with it; it is true when you went there the last time and it is still not all the pumps that are working there now; but gradually we are getting those pumps in line so that they can produce for us. You know that is a very big… the two facilities are huge facilities. Those facilities are the largest in West Africa and we are trying to maintain it gradually and the governor has put in a lot of money into, at least, doing O &M into those existing facilities so that they will not fail completely and that’s what we’re doing now. The new ones will be different completely, we will be working in line with the investors and the O & M will be built with it.

PT: The 710mgd you spoke about, is there a timeline you are looking at when it would be delivered?

Badmus: It is gradual, that’s why we have those two now. We have the one that is approved already which is 100mgd. There is also another one that will be coming which we are not working on right now, that will be Odomola2. Odomola2 will be 110mgd.

PT: Odomola 2 will supply which areas?

Badmus: That will supply the same area, that 100mgd is not enough to supply Odomola to Victoria Island. The other one will complement that. We also have Adiyan 3 which will also be 70mgd and of course we have Ishasi that we have to increase. We have to expand the Ishasi: expansion from 4mgd to 35mgd. And also there are new facilities that will be built, Yewa 1 and Yelwa 2; they are 50mgd each. There is also, I think Ibeshe, that one will also help and then we will also expand Ota-Ikosi from 4mgd now to like 35 – 50mgd. All those will help and when we put those together they will come to like the exact capacity that we are expecting in 2020. In 2020 we are expecting 745mgd and we are actually working towards that with all these ones that I have identified; 745mgd is what we are building, hoping to achieve.

PT: Will 745mgd be the water need at that time or the state’s capacity?

Badmus: The need will actually be 733mgd, by 2020, and by that time we should have745mgd production. Another thing we are doing right now is to conserve water because what we found out after we went out and studied our system is that there’s been a lot of leakages, leakages not on the streets alone but even in the house because there’s no meter so people can leave the faucet to run as long as they want because it’s not being measured. So we are introducing meters, this is World Bank project and we are putting in between 14,000 and 16,000 house meters before the need of this year.

PT: Which areas are you targeting for now?

Badmus: Yaba, Surelere, Victoria Island, Ikoyi, Lekki – part of Lekki – we’re not supplying all parts of Lekki right now but the few we are supplying there we’ll be putting meters, and then some other areas, we can provide you the information to that. That we’ll start by the end of this month, we start to put the meters. We have about 2,700 that have been delivered so far, the rest are on their way which should be before the end of this year. In fact, before July this year we should have, at least, about 14,000 to 16,000 meters installed. So that will help us and the citizens to conserve water and that will be like prepaid meters whereby you can only use what you pay for there. And then we’ll be able to bring in revenue to really help with the O&M for those facilities that I mentioned earlier, both the large and small facilities.

PT: What about the issue of private water vendors tapping into the government’s water pipes? Has it been addressed?

Badmus: It’s a problem, we have two ways, some households are also doing illegal connections. Those are the pipes you will see that goes through the gutters, we do not run pipes through the gutters. And those are the ones that when they go through the gutters, if there is a leakage you will hear some citizens they will say there is brown water. Brown water can penetrate if there is any rainstorm and there is a leakage, so we discourage that. We are encouraging citizens to let us know where those mushroom pipes are so that we can replace them or advise them to change it.

Now about the illegal connections, that is another problem. We have a lot of them and actually we started recently to go out, we’ve had a meeting with them, we invited them here, we told them what our position is that you cannot continue to tap our line illegally and that we’ll work with them to introduce a way similar to what they’re doing in Kenya where they have those vendor port and all that. grin That we’ll have that only in some areas where our pipes are not yet run through, so we’ll encourage that with them. And we’ll get to that but we have engaged them and we’ve been going about talking to them also. But yes, there is a lot of that. The reason is water is life and a lot of people are so desperate for water and they’ll buy water. Can you imagine people paying N2 for this Mai ruwa when they don’t even know the source of the water, and also other people that are supplying water, and also this bottle water that nobody knows where they’re getting it, of course some of them are stealing our water. So we have regulatory commission at least tracking those. Once you have meters, stealing the water will be reduced because you have to pay to be able to get water out.

PT: When you assumed office in November 2015, would you say you were overwhelmed by the scope of work to be done in the water sector in Lagos?

Badmus: It was a lot of work but I do have some dedicated staff that I was able to pull and I have been working with them since then. It’s still a lot of work to be done. We will not rest until when we get to that 733mgd that we’re shooting for. When I came, on the ground, yes it was not the same and it was not what I expected but thank God where we are now we have really achieved a lot with the staff that we have here.

PT: I asked that question because between 1999 and 2015, billions of dollars, not even naira, had gone into the Lagos water sector yet we are not seeing the impact. How would you convince people that it’s no longer business as usual?

Badmus: It is true that through the World Bank and, of course I will say even (Lagos) State also put some money into water, it didn’t show. I can’t really speak at that time because I was not here. But of course there are some projects that I have seen that could have been done differently or managed differently, and we are determined to do a better job this time and make sure that money is well spent. Yes, it is true, it was billions. I have seen contractors being awarded close to N3 billion work but we still have to look at what they have done and then redo some of them. But we’re doing things differently now and we are hoping that it would get better and we’re very very determined and we’ll make sure that water gets to the households and the water works are maintained properly and we are able to get water to every household.

PT: What do you say to people who live in parts of Lagos where they don’t have access to water from the Corporation?

Badmus: I will tell them to be patient with us and that we’re coming. I just highlighted a lot of these works that we’re bringing and soon they will soon be seeing the effects of those projects, because they’ll be seeing a lot of activities that will be on the water side, putting the infrastructure down, we will get to them. And those ones that we have water in their area that are not yet connected, please call us, we’ll be glad to come out and then see how we can connect them to water. There are still people that are not connected but we want to connect them, we want to go able to provide water because the borehole water is not a clean water if you look at it. Borehole water is not clean at all and then we’re making sure we take the borehole… we go out and educate them about the borehole water. Because if you look at in Lagos, where you see the borehole, you will see the soak-away and all these things are coming from the ground and going to the ground and that’s not a proper way and that’s why we want to make sure we provide adequate water for the citizens of the State. They need to be patient with us, we’ll get to them. And I will encourage our people if they see any leakages bring it to our attention so that we can take care of it because the water that is being wasted right there is a shortage to other people so we need to go there and take care of that. Soon also as part of it, we’ll have things that will be showing us on our system or telling us where the leakages are so that at least we’ll know ahead of time even before the citizens know it. Because there are some of those leakages that are in corners somewhere that no one will ever see but once we put all those leakage detection system we will be able to see ahead of time. All those things will be put to place with the new ones and some of these old ones will have there too.


https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/224602-interview-increasing-lagos-water-current-200-700-million-gallons-daily-corp-boss.html/ampPs

Victoria Island, Ikoyi, Lekki, Surulere, Yaba, Ikeja, Maryland, Anthony, Ilupeju, Lagos Island etc houses are connected to Lagos water works. The water structure there is well connected. However, some of these areas are bigger than the second or third cities in Kenya. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 4:59pm On Apr 21, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Nairobi
If God is willing, I will visit Nairobi this year or next year to see for myself.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 4:53pm On Apr 21, 2017
Nowenuse:
Pls abeg, Nigeria is targetting to be at par with countries like Brazil and not SA.
What does SA really have better than Nigeria apart from their infrastructures which they started building hundreds of years ago?

The inequality in their country is still very high. They have worse slums than us. HIV aids is ravaging their population. We are making inventions than them in many aspects. The income per capital difference btw us and them is quite small.....
Hehehehe! But South Africa bad ooooooo. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 4:49pm On Apr 21, 2017
MtuMsuper:
What i have been barking up and down ,just to get a simple overview. Yes, i have seen the phenomenon in nollywood movies, and i have also been told by a very knowledgeable person who has visited nigeria, that folks there.rely on borehole water for water supply, and soakaway for disposing of greywater.

@forgiveness, can you take it as a task and research on this? Defend 9ja with facts, not superiority (lol!) complex.Start with where you live
I have given him the facts on ground.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 4:43pm On Apr 21, 2017
GERALD710:
Let's see, we have actual water companies that provide actual water. Unlike Nigeria where most Lagosians and Abujans rely on boreholes.Nairobi gets its water from Ndakaini,Sasumua and Ruiru dams in Central Kenya.
Mombasa pumps its water from Mzima Springs(near Mt Kilimanjaro),Baricho in River Galana and Shimba Hills.
Kikumu from Lake Victoria etc
We have stable power supply.
We do have tarmac roads that end at our doorsteps.
We have sewer systems even in the smallest towns like my rural home town has a sewer system that uses trickle technology to treat the water.The town barely has 10,000 people. And that is the norm across Kenya.
Nigeria has federal governments that basically provide little or no such services.In fact ,I read that Lagos got its sewer system in the 90s shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked.Eeerm.My rural town had its sewer system in the 50s.
and Piped water serves barely 20 percent of the population of Lagos.In Nairobi,even slums have water kiosks where they buy water from Nairobi water
Government handles water distributions in Nigeria though very poor.

You listed 4 basic infrastructures: 1, water
2, light
3, Tarmac roads
4, sewage system

Abuja has all those save one
Some parts of Lagos has all those save one(light) while many places in Lagos has all those save two (light and sewage system).

Abuja is a better planned city than all the best cities in Kenya. grin

Water is well connected in major cities including my small town but people don't pay bills and this acts doesn't encourage the government to perform better.

Unfortunately, once government blocks flow of water, people decides to go the easy way by digging boreholes. But now in some cities you must pay taxes on every boreholes you dig.

Now, tell me more about the infrastructures on ground in Kenya cities that are better than Nigeria. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:48pm On Apr 21, 2017
MtuMsuper:
My dear, the number of oyinbos has never been a measure of anything other than the number of oyinbos. I dont know who told you having oyinbos is important- or not.
Yes only two HQs. Getting even 1 global HQ of UN is a monumental task. Paris has forever been trying to steal the 2HQs away from Nairobi. We have effing 2. So hell yeah, only 2 goddamn GLOBAL UN HQs will do, thank you very much. That puts Nairobi at oar with other cities hosting UN Hqs like Genevé and NY city. I dont think UN would want to put up anything global in sweaty,septic tank and borehole using Lagoose.

Analyse that.
Nairobi is inconsequential in the realms of African politics. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 1:00pm On Apr 21, 2017
MtuMsuper:
My dear, the number of oyinbos has never been a measure of anything other than the number of oyinbos. I dont know who told you having oyinbos is important- or not.
Yes only two HQs. Getting even 1 global HQ of UN is a monumental task. Paris has forever been trying to steal the 2HQs away from Nairobi. We have effing 2. So hell yeah, only 2 goddamn GLOBAL UN HQs will do, thank you very much. That puts Nairobi at oar with other cities hosting UN Hqs like Genevé and NY city. I dont think UN would want to put up anything global in sweaty,septic tank and borehole using Lagoose.

Analyse that.
Nairobi is inconsequential when it comes to African politics. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:58am On Apr 21, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
I laugh when I see questions like this......

Partly because it is the perfect opportunity for anyone to come on board and just say, 'well he used to have but pep has drilled it outta him...... The drilling school at the Etihad campus is anti-dribbling bla Bla Bla......'



AND PARTLY AGAIN...... because It shows how short many people's memories are.

Iheanacho...... Kelechi Iheanacho has never lost and will never lose his dribbling abilities. AGAINST Senegal, he was our most daring player when on the ball in the final third.... He showed daring skill moves on some occasions and una still dey ask if Nacho can dribble?? Which kain analytical discussions una dey get these days sef?

I need not go further into other games..... Zambia? Tanzania? Luxembourg?? Na wa oooo.... At Man City, Nacho has also shown same abilities albeit not so often as under pellegrini, he didn't need to be so flashy.... while under Pep, he is not exactly enjoying Pep's trust/confidence and haven't been given the opportunity to shine as much.... his best game under pep till date remains that Southampton game where he showed huge glimpses of his limitless talents.

But honestly.... Na wa oooo.... Iheanacho this, iheanacho that.... Almost every time, one dig or the other is aimed at the young man and worst... Things are said about his abilities which are so far from the truth.... ALL OF UNA SHOULD FEAR GOD OOOOO angry



And Egbon Forgiveness.... Abeg.... I take God beg you fa.... biko... abeg... I rate Taiwo Awoniyi so high... I am one of his few remaining believers on this thread sef.... u should know this by now.... I will never underrate that young man but plsss.... let us not sell the wrong info that Awoniyi is actually more technically gifted than Iheanacho... because even Awoniyi himself would disagree with you....

In Iheanacho, we are talking about a player who provided four out of Awoniyi's five goals at the U-17s if not all sef.... (if u doubt it... I can give you the matches for the four assists I know 100% by just verbal citation which you can go check out on YouTube)... I mean... these are games I watch again and again in my free time when I just wanna remind myself of when the Journey to the Birth of our second golden generation began..... and even for reasons beyond that.

Do you remember That Isaac Success goal against Sweden? It was rated the no.7 best goal at the 2013 FIFA U-17 WC because of is exquisiteness and execution.... You know who the provider of the assist was? yep... Kelechi himself... and Isaac was the finisher and would have gone on to destroy more opponents sef but injury happened shortly after that goal.




Talking of Awoniyi.... I will tell you we have a super hardworking player who contributes so much to Teamwork. Even Gyan Asamoah singled out Awoniyi for his uniqueness which is based on him being a hardworker upfront... this is why and how Awoniyi picked up five assists.... He was and still is a hard worker for the team and also possesses a subtlly fine sleek touch which he uses sometimes to beat one man and get into scoring positions... but ultimately, Awoniyi is a galloping horse upfront who can run for hours and not get tired. #HighWorkrate

[b]And also note.... Abeg.. anyone saying Awoniyi no get Aerial abilities.... una don fail am oooo.... against Sweden wetin him use score? and also as bonus... who set up the goal after nice work by Yahaya in the middle before spreading to the right for the "assist maker" to come in...? wink grin Now this brings me to my next point.

In that team, Musa Yahaya was the doyen when it came to limitless technical abilities closely followed by Isaac Success and then Kelechi Iheanacho (even as highly as I rate him this is the truth... na him be third most technically gifted back then.... I used to rate him second to Yahaya but again Success' injury made a lot of people miss out on what that lad would have done to opponents but ofcos... if he hasn't , Awoniyi won't get his chance... so life or should I say, opportunity happened).



So uhmmm... Sir Madaboi.... Kelechi Promise Iheanacho don't just still have dribbling in his skills closet... he actually has it in abundance.... only that they are being inhibited at man city.... but in Super Eagles games, you still see the class and the brilliance of the lad...

All nacho needs now is a team and coach who believes in him and trusts him and won't knock him even when he flunks just like How Awoniyi is enjoying his manager's confidence despite his barren run.

Iheanacho needs the permission from his manager to express himself..... because under pellegrini, we saw just flashes of it because of pellegrini's style.... and Nacho had to be more direct. And now under Pep.... he hardly or infact does not sees chances...

But his most expressive performance still remain that game at the etihad when he rescued Man City against Southampton.

The lad still got it and doesn't look like losing such class. smiley
Please, show m the YouTube make I watch small before I gree say Iheanacho sabi dribble pass Awoniyi. grin

You said it has been reduced at Manchester City. Now, you're talking. If I no see am for Manchester City, how I go come take know? grin

I know Iheanacho get many attributes pass Awoniyi but dribbling skills, I am not convinced. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:52am On Apr 21, 2017
komekn:
You know players improve and some do not infact they diminish. This is even more pronounced at youth level.

All I have heard about Awoniyi so far, is. PAST GLORIES of yesteryears. How good is he now huh huh huh is a more concise question.

KC whether we like it or not has improved, however, Awoniyi simply has not. Indeed he has regressed. So he is essentially no longer relevant, until he can show progression.

In my opinion barring a miracle he will never play for Liverpool. Danny Ings cannot get into the side and he has proven pedigree and cost in excess of £10 million. Right now trying to offload Awoniyi to a Vanarama national league side would be problematic.
My emphasis so far pinpointed on dribbling skills and not how good he is or how he has progressed. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:49am On Apr 21, 2017
Icon4s:
Mutiu has been more occupied with being part of the Shooting stars board.D't think he has been aggressive about a national team coaching job. Nobody even hears any comment credited to him.

Look at Ikpeba and Amokachi. They are regular faces on our TV screens. But Mutiu, the last time I saw him on TV was during Yekini's burial as he was part of the burial organisng committee.

I do not know Mutiu that closely. Does he have communications problems?
So, the most vocal gets the job!? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:45am On Apr 21, 2017
komekn:
I haven't contributed to this discussion, I just don't know all these players well enough. To start making deductions.

However, in assessing these players we seem to be talking about past glories. We need to look at the present continous.

Beating 2/3 or even 4 players in youth football and trying the same in a professional competitive game are completely two different things.

Taking it further dribbling and beating your player in the Finnish league is a lot different from trying it in La Liga or the EPL.

I can't say anything about Awoniyi beyond his stats are very poor and no amount of dribbling can change that.
Well, I am only telling people what I saw. grin

Dem say Awoniyi no sabi dribble at all at all but the video said otherwise hence the need to do the needful. grin

It is not about past or current situation but about the ability to dribble. You get my point? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:53am On Apr 21, 2017
Icon4s:
Mutiu was a very tactical player.
Very efficient.

Also a utility player.

I wonder why he has not taken his coaching serious just like Keshi, Siasia, Amuneke and Oliseh.
Mutui, Amuneke and Oliseh all have UEFA Pro license.

He even got his own before Oliseh but we know na connection dem dey take get job for NFF as you rightly said. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:45am On Apr 21, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
How can you make such statement? The question was who is the best dribbler not who was the best dribbler. Putting Awoniyi over Iheanacho is the height of bias.
Show me clips of Iheanacho doing the Ronaldinho things then I will keep my peace. grin

Don't mention Rohr for here because we know Awoniyi has done nothing to justify a call-up to the national team. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 7:25am On Apr 21, 2017
MtuMsuper:
That is the GLOBAL HQ of UNEP & UN Habitat. GLOBAL!!!! That means in almost all cases, the ambassadors different countries send to kenya also represent their countries at these 2 agencies.
Diplomatic hotspot of africa. You cant make that stuff up.
Only two and you no wan make we hear word. Bhuuuhahaha! grin

Kenya in African politics is inconsequential. grin

When we talk Africa, we talk Ethiopia, Egypt, Nigeria, and South Africa, sorry. grin

If na oyinbos, den full many cities in Nigeria. grin

Look at Calabar with oyinbos full ground. grin

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:56pm On Apr 20, 2017
Humility017:
you keep debunking your lame claims by your baseless proofs...
you wasted my data watch that clips....
sorry bro...I didnt see taiwo dribbles there

where is the dribbling?
u need watch zidane, c Rinaldo, okocha clips and understand what dribbling is like...

the only one that came close was taiwo break pass an unbalanced defender and stroll passed the keeper to score...
the rest where clean finishing...

bro....please stop being sentimental

note: that Nigeria goal keeper need to be punished the guy is a fluke
@bolded funny die.

Which one be unbalanced defender when it is obvious Awoniyi took time to control the ball and unbalanced the defender with his dribbling skills? grin

Which one be strolled pass keeper when it is obvious he dribbled the keeper comot for road? grin.

Whalahi! Na you bias, fa. grin

Oga, fear God na. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:28pm On Apr 20, 2017
Humility017:
hope you're not voicing for this lad...
simply because of where he hails from in Nigeria?

you're one person in this thread...I know his tribe from his analysis long before I think of joining nairaland and it is bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rUrPUgzp4E

After seeing the clip, can Awoniyi dribble or not? Answer sincerely. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:23pm On Apr 20, 2017
Humility017:
hope you're not voicing for this lad...
simply because of where he hails from in Nigeria?

you're one person in this thread...I know his tribe from his analysis long before I think of joining nairaland and it is bad
Na ya thought be that.


I have shown you proves. Now, do the needful and stop playing dirty cards, please. grin

Habi, all I have said na lie? Point them out and stop bringing lame points, please. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:20pm On Apr 20, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Can Rohr list Awoniyi as one of his wingers? It is unimaginable.
We are not talking about the current situation. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:17pm On Apr 20, 2017
Mickael2:
I am not saying he is a bad player, I am just saying that forgiveness is overhyping the lad. Against Uruguay or was it Mexico, I can remember that Yahaya did everything in the middle, gave it to Iheanacho who produced a brilliant over the top ball for Awoniyi and his only contribution was that he put it away, but Forgiveness is now saying that he saved us countless times which was false. He was merely the finisher there, he didn't really score any brilliant individual strike that won us games
Na only the bad part of him games you see, ba!? grin

You didn't see the equalizer again Sweden, ba?
You didn't see the two brilliant goals against Uruguay, ba?
You didn't see the 5 assists, ba? grin
OK na, kwantinue grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
TheGoodJoe:
Giroud has dribbled a defender and scored. Does that mean he is a better dribbler than Carzola? Can anyone think of playing Awoniyi ahead of Iheanacho on the wings or in attack midfield role?

Compare that to Iheanacho and Success.
Oga, this is Awoniyi vs Nacho and not Giroud vs Carzola. grin

Awoniyi dey play for wing wella na. grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:55pm On Apr 20, 2017
Humility017:
God bless you...I still remember all I saw of him during the under17 and part of his games for under 20.

the truth is this players are unique in their abilities...
Watch the clips of Awoniyi carefully and you will realise anyone saying Awoniyi falls short when facing defender 1 on 1 don sell you ogogoro instead of wata. grin




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rUrPUgzp4E
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:46pm On Apr 20, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
I can understand forgiveness displaying his massive bias in his analysis but I find it difficult when another absorbs it. Is it not Iheanacho in our last friendly against Senegal that comments came of Iheanacho making some nice moves? During the game, someone even asked who was the player making such moves and another replied Iheanacho.

Now someone can absorb Awoniyi is a better dribbler. Remarkable. Please stop this campaign. It is sickening. Is it not Iheanacho we watched dribble the goalkeeper and score that earned him CNN goal of the week.

People should fear God.
Hehehehe!

See as Awoniyi take dribble defender and keeper join before he come score. grin




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rUrPUgzp4E
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:41pm On Apr 20, 2017
tbaba1234:
Siasia gave Awoniyi plenty of opportunities.. He was dropped based on poor performances.
Maybe!
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:36pm On Apr 20, 2017
Mickael2:
I am pretty sure you are just being biased because if you watched the U17 you would see that Awoniyi was merely a finisher. When did he win the best player at the U17? Last I checked Iheanacho did
Na lie, he was more than a finisher. Awoniyi had 5 assists credited to him.

Did I mention U17? He was the best at the U15 and arguably the best at U20. grin

Never use dis one cover face. grin

Now, answer. How many players did Awoniyi dribble in that YouTube? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:32pm On Apr 20, 2017
Orkpekyandega:
Thank you Sir Forgiveness, watching these guys displays reminds me of the old memories of their excellent display. Who will watch these clips and still doubt their ages huh Oh my God Kelechi looked really young.
Those boys are what I call pikin. They are indeed young.

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