TayserMahiri: 1. Lagos Vs Nairobi ? Nairobi dwarfs Lagos 2. Abuja Vs Mombasa ? Second largest port on the continent as at 2016, with all its tourism infrastructure beats Naijas FCT 3. PH Vs Kisumu ? Stop the jokes. 4. Ibadan Vs Nakuru ? Ibadan na Old Lady, Nakuru will whip her. 4. Calabar Vs Eldoret ? We can start the argument here
We should probably start at number 1 anyway. With pictures please. Not words. So lets go
Hehehehe!
If we do the ratings of both country's cities, this is the top 10 cities from both.
This based on the world class infrastructures on ground na. International Airport, railway system, roads, Health services, Business environment, leisure, Education, Market(mails, stores, etc), Eateries, sports. etc. and not photo.
Considering the two approaches I can safely say that Mikel is probably the highest achieving Nigerian player from a club perspective. However, the incredible talent of Mikel was diminished playing as a DM and his personal talent never reached the heights it should have. In this regard I could day he underachieved.
Now we celebrate JJay incredible personal talent. However, from a club perspective what did he achieve . Can I say respectfully, not a lot considering his undoubted mercurial incomparable talent. Particularly, if we put him side by side with his peers, like ZZ Zidane, Beckham, Leonardo, Del Piero, Baggio, Rivaldo, Vieira, etc. I believe he was better than some of these players but look at what they achieved in comparison and JJay falls short.
Now back to Obagoal, who is still continously relevant one thing I will say is that. He Martins seemed to follow the money not the career. In that regard he hasn’t achieved the highest accolades he might have. But then look at teams he has played for and what they have won it has not been a total underachievement. If it was money he was looking for then he has achieved more.
I still think he is relevant, tell me one young striker that has got anywhere near to his level. If we consider what he was doing at thier age comparatively.
I would invite him to the SE if Defoe can be invited to England why not Obagoal.
Chai! You sabi something.
I also wanted to make a reference to JJ Okocha but you don finish the job na.
TheGoodJoe: Who told you that is what counts. Martins underachieved when you consider his ability. He could have won more trophies and become a bigger name.
What counts?
Define your standard of 'underachievement' before we begin debate.
komekn: Martins is actually performing better than any other Nigerian player in the Chinese league.
When he was in the MLS he was the top performing Nigerian player. In addition one of the top performers
If he wasn't the top performing Nigerian player in La Liga in 2012/13, he would be very close to it.
If Obagoal was playing in the Bundesliga he would probably have the highest goal tally of all Nigerian players in the Bundesliga. And you know what Rohr would have him as the first man on the SE team sheet.
If Rohr is considering to invite a striker from the Chinko league, Martins should be the number one on the list.
Hehehehe! So, Rohr is bias towards extending invitations to German based players, ba!?
TheSuperNerd: Okay naa.... then let us call back Martins, Yakubu, Emenike, Osaze and even Yobo.....
is that it?
The fact is Ighalo and co are just flashes in the pan... they are not up and doing... that is the fact... and Iheanacho is the best we have now... so that makes him a man.... coz he has shown he can actually Carry the team on his young shoulders.
And when Pele was leading Brazil's attack in the semis against Sweden in 1958.... and then in the final... you wanna tell me there was no older striker in that team?
You call the world cup a men's world cup... but being a man in a team is not just a function of age and experience... it is also a function of responsibility and how much one can actually deliver on the team's behalf... this is football... and we have seen youngsters step into the shoes of men and become men themselves despite their tender years.
TheGoodJoe: Time is ticking but Martins early exploit at Inter Milan did not culminate in him becoming one of the best hitmen in the history of the game. That is what I am pointing at. The hype does not mean development.
Development is reaching a level where he is operating at the best of his abilities. Martins did not reach it despite ticking early.
At the end of the day, what counts is the trophies he won through his impacts. Martins don reach am.
TheGoodJoe: BABY MOURINHO who thinks he invented Football.
'What kind of nutcase are you?' Schmidt yelled. 'Do you think you invented football? Shut your mouth.'
That was former manager of Bayer Leverkusen yelling at Julian Nagelsmann, the coach known as the one in hunt for the signature of the promising Nigerian striker Iheanacho. This is just a snap view of what makes this young coach, youngest in the history of the Bundesliga when he became head coach of Hoffenheim at 28 years old, a good destination for Nacho.
Nagelsmann is a coach who worked under the promising Tuchel who is respected for his possessive style of play and eyes for promising young talents. His team plays at tremendous pace.
After Nagelsmann suffered knee injuries that put an end to his playing career, Tuchel who was coach of Ausburg gave Nagelsmann a job as club scout and part of his technical analysis crew. Nagelsmann was just 20.
He later became a youth coach at Hoffenheim and had a successful spell, including lifting the title. That was where he was dubbed the Baby Mourinho.
He rejected a job at Bayern Munich to work with their youth team and got an almost impossible task to save Hoffenheim from relegation. Being the youngest coach in the history of Bundesliga, this looked impossible.
Nagelsmann did not only save Hoffenheim, they now sit third on the Bundesliga table. This is remarkable considering he is 29 now.
A coach to watch out for. He plays a high intensity pressing style like Klopp when his team loses the ball. He also likes his team to keep possession like Guardiola and Tuchel.
With his history as a scout and working Tuchel who is good at Managing young talents, he seems a man who can spot quality young talents.
With his ability to transform a relegation threatened club into a team close to qualifying for the champions league in few months, it shows Nagelsmann has a lot to offer the game of football.
He may not have invented football but he is inventing something special.
If Nacho wants to make a move from City, I see Hoffenheim as a right direction.
I am suspecting Rohr who has deep knowledge in German Youth football.
If Nacho would be guaranteed playing time regularly then he should consider the move because all I want is our players playing regularly before the World Cup next year. That's all.
I ask my self, can Naija anthem ever be rendition ed like how the Brazilians sang this in the 2014 WC? What an atmosphere.
Still on improving the spectacle of being a Naija fan, look at the organization of Leipzig fans. Can care less about what they chanting but it license the place up. I'd love Naija to have a fan hype man like some of these European and Asian teams do.
Humility017: of a truth what is he going to bring to the SE? we have young players of Nigeria heritage all littered across Europe and America...yet not given a chance...of a truth even players from the domestic league...will prove better. and now you clamouring for the inclusion of a player in his 30s playing no league better than the ignored young lads all because of his performance of yesteryears...
sir we're talking of winning the world cup come 2022 and using the Russia 2018 for exposure of these lads.....
Mention one player in the domestic league that will prove better than Taiwo.
Mention 2 natural LB players of Nigerian heritage that can play in the LB position for Nigeria.
komekn: People win tournaments with a blend of youth and experience not just youth alone.
And in our case what we are calling youth is still open to debate. And omit top players like Taiwo, Aluko and yes even Martins who currently is in better form in the Chinese league than Ideye and Ighalo.
Sir. Tbaba1234 una weldone. I don see ur work. You've been doing a great job here-you've brought us closer to the team.
Where is Yarayara? Abeg give Tbaba1234 E-wine. E better pass our lazy journalists.
@Forgiveness your perseverance and persistency don de pay o o o. Rohr don de reason your matter.
Sirs Icon4s, Joebie, TheSuperNerd, Dr. Mik, sir Gold, TheGoodJoe(turned SharpJoe) I think it's time for you to 'stand-down' on pep's defence. Sir BascoVanveli, lakesidepapa, Komekn, and other forumites wey I no remember(abeg no vex)-I GREET ALL OF UNA O O O. Eh... Before I forget make I troway salute too to the man wit the 'O Pari' signature Sir Icon79.
EgunMogaji: In law enforcement we have something called a "tactical retreat" and "in the interest of peace".
In Yoruba we have a saying that goes "agbo to tadi meyin, kosa, olomagbarawa ni".
We don't know the end of this episode.
Some of the rowdy participants may suddenly find their visa revoked and/or banned from both airline and country. Theirs surveillance cameras all over that airport.
It's better sometimes to eat crow while you plan a proper comeuppance with a side of schredenfrau (sp)
TheLordIsGr8: I do care what they think of me to some extent. Take it or not, the waters always return to the ocean. A single bad apple spoils the bunch. Perhaps you can relate to the "all men are the same" charge.
I believe in giving everyone the chance to prove themselves, which is called a fair hearing in the justice system. But sometimes we humans just lump everyone together and call it a day because its too much work to keep tabs on each person. We are all guilty of it. It works the same way some black people label all whites racists.
I'm not throwing my hands in the air. We can actually do better.
What injustice
If he is in their country illegally, then they need to take action as specified in their law.
The legal and just thing (their country, their rules) to do was to deport him. Now some other of his fellow country men are obstructing justice. Obstruction of justice is a punishable crime. And in saner times those guys would pay a visit the police station straight from the airport.
Take a look at it this way. News flash: Nigerian stays in the country illegally. News flash next day: Nigerians obstruct justice during attempted deportation.
But like I said, they just postponed the deportation. As long as that guy has been cleared for deportation, they don't mind dropping him off a private jet inside Sambisa.
If the Nigerians protesting obstructed justice, why were they not arrested and charged to court?
Why did they heed to their protest if they knew they were right?
Akolawole: We dont have the facts of this guy's case so we cant be totally speculative.
Could it be more than immigration offence? Possibly
If i am on that flight, I will NEVER NEVER behave like those Nigerians NEVER. They dont even know the gravity of what they were doing They are NOT in Ikeja, they are likely to be committing offence in Schipol Airport.
The best i could have done is to ask the guy some question(at least in pidgin english!) to see if he need a 'PROPER' help
What is the work of a counselor in that country after seeing his face?
tbaba1234: It is not about liking Azubuike but on what basis should we invite him ahead of Esiti, Agu, Lawal etc who are also playing well at a higher level.
If Azubuike moves to a bigger club and shows his qualities then he is fully deserving.
Hehehehe! You have just said as it supposed to be.