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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:18pm On Feb 25, 2017
TheGoodJoe:

I repeat. If you bring Martins today to Manchester City, he will not see bench. You are writing history.
Today! I like that word. grin

Kelechi self no dey see bench na when em no get injury. grin

Obafemi is far better than Iheancho who no dey smell the bench na. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:05pm On Feb 25, 2017
goldfish80:
You obviously cannot tell when someone replies you with tongue in cheek kai! grin

His loan move to Granada was a failed one. He managed to play just 9 times all season put of a possible 40 + games including cup games.
His loan move to Bordeaux was even more depressing, he managed just 12 games out of a possible 40+ games.
His loan spell at Aston Villa was the worst of all, he didn't play one single game all season grin

Putting in perspective, Uche Agbo have played 18 games and counting in his current loan spell at Granada. grin

With all the available data hitting you in the face like a miracle you still believe Liverpool gained from his transfer grin

If he was not on a decline why did his worth plumate from 7M to 3M including add ons and bonuses grin
Oga! na you dey deceive yaself because facts on ground proved otherwise. grin

We know he did not play due to INJURIES and NOT LACK OF ABILITIY because when he was available, he was always the first choice. There are many articles written about this obvious and know facts but you don't have one to back yours up. Sorry!

I have rolled out these facts here to prove you wrong and you are here believing only yaself. grin

Well, I am not doing this for you to believe but for the sake of those reading news from this forum. grin

If 3.5M > 3.7M, shocked shocked no bi my fault na, na you maths teacher no teach you well. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:49am On Feb 25, 2017
Mickael2:
i don't just know but I don't just believe that he can cut it. He was great at the U17 level just like Chrisantus was, he is tall just like Chrisantus and he is almost the carbon copy of Chrisantus with regards to their style of play, I hope you understand my point now? I was the first person to jump on the Chrisantus hype train and I am ashamed of it now, hence my....indifference towards Oshimen, atleast until he starts performing like Iheanacho
The difference between these two players, one na overage the other na confirmed small pikin. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:44am On Feb 25, 2017
chrisooblog:
Mister forgiveness after all this short story epistle and novella you still Have not answered the question why is it that your defender of the universe after his 'successful' loan spell at Bordeaux no French club even relegation strugglers signed him up? No club in the whole of Europe noticed his amazing performance went back to Liverpool stewed with the u23s. Liverpool preferred to sell him at a loss rather than hang on to such a great defender of life. Hope he revives his career at reading but for now he is no way super eagles material. Please stop mentioning his Time at sporting Lisbon I get am before no be property. Upon all this argument sef we don't know if he considers himself Nigerian and if he wants to play for us
Deal off: Defender who feared city was 'too cold' refuses to complete Liverpool exit

TIAGO ILORI has refused to join Sunderland
grin

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/602114/Deal-off-Defender-claimed-city-cold-refuses-complete-Liverpool-exit

Liverpool's on loan defender Tiago Ilori could move to Granada permanently

TIAGO ILORI failed to get a look in at Liverpool, but after just two games for Granada, the Spanish club are discussing a permanent switch.
grin

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/366672/Liverpool-s-on-loan-defender-Tiago-Ilori-could-move-to-Granada-permanently

Last bullet.
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Olympiakos, Eintracht Frankfurt, Freiburg, Valencia and former loan club Granada were all reported to be interested in signing the 23-year-old.

Liverpool though did not want the centre-back to head out on loan again and instead wanted £4 million for the unwanted player.

But as the Mail report on Wednesday afternoon, interested clubs failed to match Liverpool’s asking price
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/08/tiago-ilori-stay-liverpool-u23s-move-breaks-report/
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:30am On Feb 25, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
How can our media useless the guy like this? This was a career changing move and no one knew. I'm guessing Rohr told him to move up in leagues if he wanted to be strongly considered.
I think it was reported here.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:29am On Feb 25, 2017
goldfish80:
I baited you with that grin and you fall yakata grin grin

Don't go all sentimental when arguing with me. You will always loose grin
which bait? grin

which loose? buhahahahha!

Have you forgotten so soon how you were proven wrong here?

Firstly, you claimed he stunted over 3 years and his loan move to Bordaeux was a failed one but facts showed us it was a successful one. grin

Secondly, you thought Tiago Ilori was a bad market for Liverpool because they lost money but once again, facts on ground proved otherwise. Even, you admitted it when you quoted the profit Liverpool realised from deal. grin

For where I take loose. Abi! na d like you dey get na em dey tickle ya fancy!? grin

YOU DON ADMITT AM ON BOTH GROUNDS grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:19am On Feb 25, 2017
https://allnigeriasoccer.com/football_pics/36554Solanke.jpg




Nigeria Hoping To Persuade Chelsea Whizkid Solanke Ahead Of WCQ Against Cameroon

Published: February 25, 2017

Nigeria Hoping To Persuade Chelsea Whizkid Solanke Ahead Of WCQ Against CameroonReading-born striker Dominic Solanke has played for the U16-U21 national teams of England but remains eligible to represent Nigeria through his father.

Despite his exploits for Chelsea’s youth team, he has not been able to break into the first team which has led to speculations he could leave Stamford Bridge in the summer, especially as he will be a free agent by then.

Chelsea’s rival Arsenal are said to be interested in signing the highly-rated teenager as well as Liverpool, Sunderland, West Ham and Bayern Munich.

NFF officials will be keenly monitoring the situation of the 19-year-old striker with a view to persuading him to switch his allegiance to Nigeria ahead of England.

The Super Eagles are odds on to qualify for the 2018 world cup after a strong start to the qualifying campaign. You can check all world cup betting odds via this link - https://oddsdigger.com/cheltenham-festival-2017/

The Super Eagles are currently top of their group having won their first two matches of the campaign.

Cameroon the Africa champions ( who are also Super Eagles’ next opponents ) have two points with only four more games left to play in the qualifying series.

Ifeanyi Emmanuel

Photo Credit : chelseafc.com
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:14am On Feb 25, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
Nosa Igiebor left Isreal?
Yes!
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:12am On Feb 25, 2017
goldfish80:
You've lost the argument already. Running from pillar to post have shown you up for what you are grin

First of, no club releases the full details of their player's contract. Details in contracts are confidential.
We only know from whistle blowers and third party websites about these details in players contracts.

You can check this link ; http://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2016/12/07/5848111122601d2c5f8b4635.html
It's rather a tad classless of you to continue this argument.

N/B: you should read the bolded carefully. grin
goldfish80:
Okay Liverpool GAINED 1.3M. Abi?

Oya tell me straight answer oh.. Why didn't Liverpool pay the full 7M to sporting Lisbon?
Straight answer oh.. Remember grin
Who said that? It wasn't me! grin

NOW, THAT IS THE KOKO. grin EOD. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:03am On Feb 25, 2017
https://allnigeriasoccer.com/football_pics/42424Lawal.jpg


[b]Kayserispor New Jewel Raheem Lawal Outshines Nigerian Trio In Goal-Fest In Turkey[/b

Published: February 25, 2017

Kayserispor New Jewel Raheem Lawal Outshines Nigerian Trio In Goal-Fest In TurkeySuper Eagles midfielder Raheem Lawal has taken five games to open his goalscoring account for Kayserispor.

In a Turkish Super Lig clash at Yeni Rize Şehir Stadium on Friday, the Osmanlıspor loanee’s goal in the 15th minute kicked off a come-from-behind 4-2 win over Rizespor

The home team had taken the lead in the fifth minute through Cameroon striker Kweuke, with Nosa Igiebor providing the assist for his goal.

It is worth mentioning that as many as four Nigerian players in the shape of Godfrey Oboabona, Bright Edomwonyi, Igiebor and Lawal started the game week 22 encounter.

Raheem Lawal and his teammates continue their domestic schedule when they square off with Emmanuel Emenike’s Fenerbahçe in the Cup on Thursday, March 2.

Igho Kingsley

http://allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=22176

Rohr give Raheem Lawal the chance to show his worth. The guy is natural CMF.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
TheGoodJoe:

Iheanacho is on the bench because of the high competition in City. Martins will not see Bench at City. Yet You want to make regular time at MLS and China as the bomb.
Where was Man City when Martins was a shining star at Inter Millan? grin

Where was Man City when Martins was a star in the days of the Newcastle of Alan Sherea? grin

Where was Man City when Martins was a star with the Champions of Bundusliga? grin

When it comes to talent, we know Martins is more talented than Iheanacho. grin

Make Iheanacho achieve wetin Martins achieved first before you compare him with Martins. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:37pm On Feb 24, 2017
Icon4s:
No! The bolded should be we should try them to see if they can be integrated into the team. "Must make sure they are integrated into the team" even if they are off the mark? Na their Papa get national team?

And to the first bolded, I also say a capital NO. Leone Balogun, Kenneth Omeruo, Musa Mohammed, Sehu Abdulahi and even Ogenyi Onazi can play RB.
Ok na! grin

You said we should not experiment Joel Obi at LB or LWB because he has played in that position before but why did you add Onazi? grin

Commot Shehu and Musa. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:26pm On Feb 24, 2017
komekn:
Forgiveness,

I am impressed by your open-minded approach and willingness to consider all options.

I have mentioned Obagoal but nobody apart from you has really given him consideration. Young player that we are talking about are largely unproven. We can not dismiss older players on account of age and or there is a possible new better kid on the block.

How many of our young promising strikers have achieved what Obagoal has achieved. Martins could be our most consistent striker over the last 10 years everywhere he has gone he has scored goals.

What's his performance level like now? Now as much as we think the Chinese league is a weak one. They will not be spending big chunks of money on dead strikers, they are not stupid. You now have a lot of world class strikers there now.

In this regard I can no longer say the Chinese league na moi moi. Comparatively is the Greek, Turkish, Bosnia, and Nordic leagues better, I doubt this currently.

So what about OBAGOAL don't know if he can still cut it huh huh huh huh
I totally agree with you on this one. The mistake we are making is discarding players on age grounds and not necessarily on current form. Who cares if they are currently in form in Nigeria?

All they seek for is untested and inconsistent 'potential' talent.

These is why we and most African countries never made headway in all the World Cups we had participated.

The one who made headway, check their teams and you will assuredly see old cargoes e.g Cameroon had Roger Miller while Ghana had Gyan. Even france had Zidane who came out of retirement to singlehandedly helped France to the finals.

I am not saying we Park all the old cargoes to our tournament ooo. But I am saying, let us give the players that are currently inform the chance to prove themselves.

Afterall, the so called potentials ain't doing anything special.

Next year is world cup and yet we put much expectations and emphasis on so called potentials still warming the bench.

Iheanacho dey relax for bench but some will still put him ahead of those inform in their starting 11. grin


See Ibrahimovic, if na Nigerian player, em go near national team.

I totally agree with you on this one. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
komekn:
There has been a trend by Sporting which is at the centre of this approach. To give youngster who show promise opportunities in the first team. Then sell them off as exceptional players. That's Sporting business model.

I didn't omit or ignore your article just did not consider it to have enough credence to sway my opinions.

My deductions are not coined from newspaper articles or the comments of supposed informed pundits who may or may not have vested interests or are talking from hearsay.

But my opinion emanates entirely from first hand observations. I have watched him Tiago Ilori train and play up front, close and personal. On the other hand you have chosen to ignore my observations which are first hand.

If there is any handicap I have its probably I have a higher standard quality expectation for players to be considered for the G. Eagles.
They sell them off as exceptional players but they turn out to be gabage, is that what you mean?

Even if that is their businesss model. Do you think Sporting Lisbon will like to soil soil their name and destroy their business model by selling garbage players at a very high rate?

Who will do business with a system that produces flops? grin

Bros, Sporting Lisbon has been testesd and found reliable by those who did business with them. grin

Do you know Ronaldo, Figo, Nani, Moutinho, Bruma and host of these great players are/were products of so called 'bad' marketer Sporting lisbon? shocked shocked shocked shocked grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:48am On Feb 24, 2017
goldfish80:
He didn't meet up to the performance contract clauses in his contract.

Initial transfer fee
€1,880,000 upon Ilori’s registration to play Liverpool
€3,000,000 by July 2014 (note: we signed Ilori in August 2013)
Total transfer fee = €4.88m
Performance bonus:
15 Liverpool apps = €500,000
30 Liverpool apps = €500,000
45 Liverpool apps = €500,000
Total performance bonus = €1.5m
https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/423h2i/full_details_of_tiago_ilori_transfer_leaked/
He didn't meet any of those required clauses in his Liverpool contract. That's why he's a failure and bad investment grin

Atleast you don learn a thing or two about players contracts today grin
You should thank me for this info I dey download give you grin..

Have a look at his Reading contract ;




Read the bolded carefully oh.... The Reading deal of about 3M includes add ons and appearance bonuses, you can see similarities with the Liverpool contract earlier BASED ON APPEARANCES AND ADD ONS. In reality, Liverpool have not made a gain from his transfer because Reading did not make an upfront payment of 3M.
If you can't understand this simple breakdown then I can't help you.
Even his Aston Villa deal if one is to scrutinise the terms and conditions binding on the contract, Villa would not have payed a dime to Liverpool because he didn't make a single appearance for them all season.

I wonder what it is you will gain by hawking this straw man all over the place. Seriously, am curious.
bhuhahahahahahah! grin Now, let me post the fuuuul article and let us see what you are hidding. grin

Full details of Tiago Ilori transfer leaked (self.LiverpoolFC)

submitted 1 year ago * by MostRetardedUser


Hi everyone, surprisingly this went under the radar (I think). A website called football leaks has been leaking documents relating to player transfers, agent agreements, and some other stuff for the past few months. Most of the documents relate to Spanish and Portuguese clubs’ transfer dealings.

Tiago Ilori's transfer agreement between Sporting and Liverpool was posted back in early December. I won’t link to the contract directly (because I’m not sure if I’m allowed to) but footballleaks2015. is the website leaking all of this stuff.

Everything on the site appears legit, obviously I can't prove this, but have a look yourself if you wish.

Without further ado, here's the TL;DR of the contract


Initial transfer fee

€1,880,000 upon Ilori’s registration to play Liverpool

€3,000,000 by July 2014 (note: we signed Ilori in August 2013)

Total transfer fee = €4.88m

Performance bonus:

15 Liverpool apps = €500,000

30 Liverpool apps = €500,000

45 Liverpool apps = €500,000

Total performance bonus = €1.5m

Future transfer:

Sporting receive 25% of any profit made on a future transfer

Liverpool will notify sporting of any accepted transfer bids to allow Sporting a chance to match the transfer bid

Clauses:

Liverpool shall not transfer Ilori to Benfica, Porta or Braga unless they receive an offer of €60m. If this should happen, Sporting would receive 50% of the transfer fee. (This clause expires in September 2018)

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/423h2i/full_details_of_tiago_ilori_transfer_leaked/


@bolded has rendered this exhibit as counterfeit. Therefore, it shall be rendered nulled and void. grin

sorry. grin I need concrete evidence from the official wedsite of anfield or a statement from them and not from bloggers. grin
Politics › Re: "Nigeria’s Recession Will Begin To End ‘Slowly’ But ‘Painfully’ In July 2017" by forgiveness: 11:20pm On Feb 23, 2017
tsephanyah:
i have third option in mind
grin grin grin

Don't tell me the third option you are having in mind starts with......? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:24pm On Feb 23, 2017
AIG07:
you won't stop amazing me.

Remove LB to accomodate who? Joel Obi?baba this is no club football where u have enough time to correct ur mistakes in d next league game.
Read my last statement na. I said, we must try it out in friendlies.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:22pm On Feb 23, 2017
AIG07:
you won't stop amazing me.

Remove LB to accomodate who? Joel Obi?baba this is no club football where u have enough time to correct ur mistakes in d next league game.
Read my last statement na. I said we must try it out in friendlies.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:13pm On Feb 23, 2017
goldfish80:
Okay Liverpool GAINED 1.3M. Abi?

Oya tell me straight answer oh.. Why didn't Liverpool pay the full 7M to sporting Lisbon?
Straight answer oh.. Remember grin
Hehehehe! You don agree be that na. grin

Liverpool gained from the deal. grin

Truth has finally prevailed. grin

To your next argument, grin I don't know for now or do you have details of the reasons? Concrete one oooo. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:07pm On Feb 23, 2017
Icon4s:
@ Forgiveness,

For RB u listed: Brian Idowu, Tyrone Ebuehi, Musa Mohammed and Nura Abdulahi.

I will aslo include Shehu Abdulahi, since I dnt mention him as part of the DMF.

I cannot rate Idow and Ebuehi yet. Let them feature in any of the friendlies first. As for between Shehu and Musa. I would go for Shehu who is a more tested player and has also done creditably well. Musa Mohammed is still developing. Nura Abdulahi, well, he belongs to the group of John Lazarus and Sincere Seth. RBs of the future.
Idowu and Ebuehi are the only options we have now. We must make sure they're integrated into the team very well. Moses Odubanjo has for sure agreed to play for Nigeria and if he is out of injury, we should give him a chance to prove himself.

If Nura Abdullahi starts making Roma's bench then we should give him a call.

Musa and Shehu no dey my list.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:54pm On Feb 23, 2017
goldfish80:
Why didn't Liverpool pay the stipulated 7M? grin
Bottle of champagne for you if you can answer that grin

Did Aston Villa loose the 1M on his loan fee or not?
Please answer grin
Did Liverpool gained from the deal or not? grin

Straight question needs straight answer. Chikena! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
Icon4s:
Are you new to the national team?

We have tried both players on several occasions. They are not capable replacements for Mikel.

We know what Ogu and Raheem can bring to the national team.

Instead we just convert Etebo to a CM. You saw how he played that role against Egypt and Algeria.

No room for needless forward and backwards testing.
Which several occasions? Can you tell me the numbers of matches Raheem Lawal played for the national team?

Which one did he start/play from start to finish?

John Ogu case is now different. He is playing regularly and well for his club hence the need to be given another chance.

Raheem Lawal and Oju are better CMF than Etebor.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:24pm On Feb 23, 2017
goldfish80:
His deal with Liverpool was valued at 7M if he came good. But he didn't come good hence, Liverpool paid only 3M+ grin

Just like the Liverpool contract, Reading aren't paying 3.7M up front. grin. They are likely paying half of that or less grin added performance based bonus will be paid if he meets those salient clauses which will push the deal up to the 3.75M valuation.
You got a break down of his contract with Liverpool, why dint you get a break down of his contract with Reading so we know grin


By the way, here's an article about Thiago Ilori. In this article he was labelled as one of the biggest flops of Brenda Rogers and about 1M in waste for Aston Villa grin


The bolded got me cracking. If I didn't know better I would have sworn that the writer was a member of this thread who have followed this argument grin
Liverpool make profit on Tiago Ilori as Portuguese defender completes Reading move

Liverpool have sold Tiago Ilori to Reading for £3.75million
The former Sporting Lisbon centre-back has failed to make the cut with the Reds in his three years at the club
Tiago Ilori has completed a £3.75million move to Reading – which means Liverpool have made a profit on the Portuguese defender.

The 23-year-old signed for the Reds in 2013 for £3.5million from Sporting Lisbon, with bonuses potentially taking the deal up to £7million.

The clubs agreed a deal last week with Liveroool cleverly agreeing a 25 percent sell-on clause in the contract, report the Liverpool Echo.

The centre back moves to the Royals to aid their promotion push, with Jaap Stam’s side currently third in the Championship.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-make-profit-tiago-ilori-9590012.amp


All d one wey you dey talk na stori. grin

Did Liverpool gain or lose from the deal for a 'dead wood', you assumed? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:51pm On Feb 23, 2017
daveP:
You want "Mathematical". Position on the goalscorers' log of almost decades to be changed?

That's why I smell politics too.


On a goal can be all time 3rd or 2nd if given 5 more games with eagles and with someone like Rohr.

Yekini-37
Odegbami-23
Yakubu-21
Martins-18
Well, I didn't know about that one ooo.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:59am On Feb 23, 2017
goldfish80:
You don't have the details of his contract with Reading.

Just like I discovered that his deal with Liverpool was worth 7M in total but 3.75M was paid up front with remaining balance as performance added bonuses this is exactly how standard contracts are drafted.

His said contract with Reading in totality is worth 3.5M, Reading might have paid just a chunk of the money upfront with the remaining balance added as performance related clauses which brings the deal to the said 3.5M.... No club in the world pays the entire outlay of a contract up front. Basically contracts are drafted in view of being performance oriented. Certain terms and conditions are met before certain percentages are paid. For example, Liverpool are due some payments if Reading gain promotion, if Thiago Ilori makes certain number of appearances, if he gets capped by his national team etc... Whenever these clauses are met, Liverpool will be due to get some remittance. The entire sum when all these clauses are added brings the deal to 3.5M.
You're obviously not a football man, if you are I wouldn't have to go this far to explain contracts to you but take it as one of those things you learnt today grin

Having gone through the paces to explain these details to you, I hope you now get what I mean that Thiago Ilori's is on a steady decline and Liverpool ran at a loss with their investment on him. The 1M Aston Villa invested in his loan deal also was a huge loss to Aston Villa because he made no single appearance.
Thiago Ilori is what we call dead wood. grin
Bad market grin
Hehehehe! You dey write grammar by force after the the truth began to hit on ya face, ndo. grin

Point of correction, Liverpool didn't sell him for 3.4M, he was rather sold for 3.75M, even after only 'you' considered him 'dead wood' grin Bhuuuhahaha!

Now, How much profit did Liverpool make from his sales? grin bought for 3.4M, loaned for 1M plus and sold for 3.75M!? shocked shocked grin What a lost, only by you? grin

A dead wood sold for more than the price he was bought. Chai! grin

Answer, plsss. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:10am On Feb 23, 2017
komekn:
This never ending contention about Ilori not being a waste man.

The discussion has centred on Ilori with Forgiveness essentially thinking he is a quality player and Goldfish80 of the opinion which I support that's he is a player that has very little quality and has failed to prove his quality.
Hehehehe! He has little quality yet he played in the Portuguese Liga, La Liga and Ligue 1.!? shocked grin

Did you even bother to read the article I showed you?

Oh! I see, you stylishly ignored it and pretended as if there was nothing like that. Continue!? grin

Well, you have said it all. It is truly ya opinion. That's all. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:03am On Feb 23, 2017
goldfish80:
The loan deal with Aston Villa was worth 1M with an option to buy[b] if he impressed [/b]
It's a pity your guy couldn't muster one single appearance at Aston Villa. grin

Jezz..... The more I dig, the more dirt I find on this guy. Its getting scary grin
No wonder Tim Sherwood is an object of ridicule in the football world these days. He won't be getting a decent gig with shitty transfers like this.
Hehehehe! Add the £ 1m : to the £3.7m pound Liverpool-fc sold him, we have not even added the money Granada and Bordeaux payed ooooooo, then substrate the result from the £3.4 M Liverpool bought him, how much is the profit Liverpool made from his sales? grin grin grin

Bhuuuhahaha! Where is the 50% loss? shocked shocked grin

Do you call that gain or loss? grin

You no sabi anything, ba!? shocked grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:21pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:
@ Forgiveness,

For RB u listed: Brian Idowu, Tyrone Ebuehi, Musa Mohammed and Nura Abdulahi.

I will aslo include Shehu Abdulahi, since I dnt mention him as part of the DMF.

I cannot rate Idow and Ebuehi yet. Let them feature in any of the friendlies first. As for between Shehu and Musa. I would go for Shehu who is a more tested player and has also done creditably well. Musa Mohammed is still developing. Nura Abdulahi, well, he belongs to the group of John Lazarus and Sincere Seth. RBs of the future.
i will comment on this tommorow. grin grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:19pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:
@ Forgiveness,

From ur list of Centre backs: Leone Balogun, Kenneth Omeruo, William Troost-Ekong, Kenedy Otigba, Chidozie Awaziem.

Balogun, Omeruo and Troost-Ekong are the regulars from this team. Good enough both Balogun and Omeruo can also play RB.

Kenedy Otigba, though I pushed for his inclusion into the Keshi's team to Brazil 2014. I would nt whole heartedly do same now because he not been having a good season.

Chidozie Awaziem, once chanted as our best Center back here on this forum grin. He is still at the pupa stage of his development. Needs more time.
You are right about this one too. Only that, Chidozie will not make my list. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:15pm On Feb 21, 2017
goldfish80:
You shot down the pivot of your argument with the bolded. grin
The deal that took him to Liverpool would have risen to 7M. Your point about his loan spells at Bordeaux and Granada being successful have come to Nutts with this single bolded sentence because Liverpool would have payed up to 7M if he got to a certain plateau but the straw man had an underwhelming outing which was why he was shipped out for a knock down FEE cheesy
Everything still goes back to what I said initially. "Thiago Ilori is in a steady decline and he is not better than anything we have" grin
I hope he finds his level at Reading grin
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did he go on loan for free? grin grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:14pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:
@ Forgiveness,

For ur pool of DMFs u listed: Wilfred Ndidi, Mikel Agu, Anderson Esiti and Ryan Sanusi. I will add Ogenyi Onazi to this pool.

Onazi and Ndidi stand tall from this list. Who ever becomes favorite to pick the starting shirt from the two would depend on how the rest of their season would go. Mikel Agu and Esiti are also good players but I dnt see them in the same capacity as Ndidi and Onazi. As for Ryan Sanusi, I dnt rate a player I dnt know so well.
On this one, you right on point. I will just like to add Agbo. grin

but that Mikel Agu dey good ooo.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:11pm On Feb 21, 2017
Icon4s:
@ Forgiveness,

For ur pool of Central Midfielders u listed: Mikel Obi, Raheem Lawal (u were trying so had to market him grin. We need for that. We knw him very well), Ogenyi Onazi, John Ogu. I wonder why you did nt mention Ovie Edjarie. I would put Onazi in the pool of DMFs.

This is a position Nigeria is currently not much gifted in. Yes, there is a Mikel but currently in Mikel's absence I dnt think Raheem or Ogu would be a capable replacement. I hope Kelechi Nwakali leaves up to expectations.
There are so many players T forgot to mention on my list. It was not intented. grin Why u come put Ovie, since he is yet to settle is nationality palaba? hope you are not using double standard for here oooo. grin

In the CMF, Mikel Obi is my number one choice and he is not playing, Onazi will be my second choice. But I think Raheem Lawal is very good CMF.

Currently, Raheem is helping his team team to win big games but the only problem is, his attitude.

I als saw John Ogu play and he impressed me. I think we just need totry these two players and see how they fair that position.

Hopefully, Rohr could give them a call fot the two friendlies.

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