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Icon4s:
You that are aware of their forms tell me their forms as at that time.

Na wetin I been dey run from bi dis. Argument.

Bro , those players I pointed out from your lists where not in form as at that time.

Google it .

Icon4s:
Comparing apple for apple now.

Lets look at players U21 playing for the Super Eagles or are Super Eagles Invitees. I would want you to name Anglo-Nigerian players U21, that are eligible, that you feel can match or surpass them in talent and performance. Like for like in terms of position.

Alex Iwobi
Kelechi Iheanacho
Wilfred Ndidi
Isaac Success
Oghenekaro Etebo
Musa Mohammed
Moses Simon
Victor Osimhen.

I purposefuly excluded Obazee and Ebuehi bc I have not had an opportunity to fully assess them.

Moses Odubanjo will relegate Musa Mohammed to the reserve.

Sheyi Ojo will bench Isaac Succes any time any day.

Ademola will give Simon run for his ego.


Dominic Solanke will lead the attack better than Iheanacho. Hahaha.


Tammy Abraham is not Osimhen mate na.

Ovie Ejara will battle it out with Etebor na.

Onomah still dey oooo.

Why mention Iwobi, a product of England?

Ndidi na the baba. Shun sir.

Icon4s:
You just mentioned 2 out of hundreds or thousands. That is the point.

MOST are not Super Eagles materials.

But the few ones we know are surely surely Super Eagles materials?

I lie?

Icon4s:
The bolded is not what I said.

I said most of them are not better despite that they are in England.

Had it been that most of those Nigerian youngsters are springing up from the French, Spanish or German academies, wow! I would be singing a different song.

The English youths system is overrated, the earlier you realize that the better.

Is Iwobi overrated?

dederocs:
Return, not arrival, he went from Benin to sojourn and conquer smaller lands, which he did.

The Benin empire is the oldest established empire and dynasty in Nigeria... How is it possible that they allow one not from the royal lineage, from another tribe rule them?

Pls think...and do you really believe all those myths that Oduduwa fell from the sky, concocted folklore are what you are narrating.

Does the name Eweka sound Yoruba to you?... Plus I will make you know that most streets in Lagos Island are Edo names... Idumagbo, Osa etc.

Was Eweka born in Benin?

If not, how did he 'return'?

What is the name of Eweka' s father?

Oduduwa fallen from the sky is simply the spiritual aspects of Ifa ideology and not the real story.

That is, Oduduwa has two narratives, the spiritual and the physical. You can't understand.

Who gave the name 'Benin' or what was 'Benin' called before the first Oba?

terzurum5:
Baba you don show

Bros, make una no vex say I no dey reply post ooooooo..

I just dey busy small..

I go just dey show face small.

Icon4s:
Understand what?

You are not aware of their form as at that time.

Icon4s:
List of notable Nigerian forwards/wingers for the period 2012-2014 WC:
Emmanuel Emenike
Brown Ideye
Uche Nwofor
Chinedu Obasi
Victor Anichebe
Osaze Odemwingie
Shola Ameobi
Victor Moses
Ahmed Musa
Obinna Nsofor
Sone Aluko

Looking at the form of those players as at that time, you still tell me Ezekiel was better than all of them? He would not even had offered up to what any of them was offering at that time.

Did Emenike go his first 7 games without a goal?

Look at which form?

You mean Uche Nwofor, Shola Ameobi, Obinna Nsofor, Chinedu Obasi and Osaze Odemwingie were in form in 2012/2013 and 2013/2014 seasons?

Now, I understand.

terzurum5:
Exclusive – Rohr Calls Up Olarenwaju Kayode As Osimhen Replacement Ahead Senegal & Burkina Faso Tie

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Owngoalnigeria.com can exclusively report that coach of the Super Eagles Gernot Rohr has handed a maiden call up to Austria Wien’s forward Olarenwaju Kayode for the upcoming friendly games against Senegal and Burkina Faso in London later in the month.


Kayode will replace Victor Osimhen who has withdrawn from the game after undergoing surgery to cure the injury that has stopped him from making his debut for German side Wolfsburg.


” I am very happy that finally the handlers of the Super Eagles have counted me worthy enough for an invitation”, Kayode told Owngoalnigeria.com.


” I want to thank all those who believed in me and I will do everything possible to give this oppurtunity my very best”, he concluded.


The forward who has done credibly well in both domestic and European competitions this season precisely the Europa League, has played for Nigeria at U-17 and 20 level, but this is his first call up to the senior national team.

*Daniel Martins

owngoalnigeria.com/2017/03/08/exclusive-rohr-calls-up-olarenwaju-kayode-as-osimhen-replacement-ahead-senegal-burkina-faso-tie/

Better.

bendeniceguy:
If you are an adult, then you must be DUMBER than i initially thought!!!! Your answers to my posers are at best vague, stupid, without logic or commonsense and can at best only be conjured up in the dark recesses of a moronic slowpoke like you. It took an EDO prince to civillize you dirty, cowardly loudmouths...FACT. The EDOs eventhough smaller in population than you dreckfressers, conquered your towns and villages with ease, a fact that you morons acknowledge even uptil today by naming some of your dirty little cities and villages after the mighty warriors from ADO ( EDO) e.g ADO ekiti.

You have uptil today descendants of yoruba slaves all over South and Central America sold to the Portugese by the all conquering EDO army. Deny that fact you stupid slowpoke. Name any part of the world where descendants of EDO slaves can be found? Answer, nowhere. That y'all morons had to burnish up your weak-ass history by trying to rope in a mighty kingdom into your degenerate little history is understandable though. How else can you hold up your sorry heads and admit to the whole world that a warrior-like people who are just a fraction of your own populace. ran roughshod allover yorubaland, capturing and subjugating your dirty and cowardly little asses?

The EDOs were a civilized and organized people long before oduduwa, ife or anything the lying yoros have to throw up as their history. Twisting historical facts to push a weak narrative has become the yorubas stock-in-trade. Your oduduwa was supposed to be a philandering Arab prince, flying around the world on his jumbo 747 mat fixed with a rope for disembarkment and looking for a place in the African jungle to start a new race of people called yorubas. PHEWWWW!!!! How believable is that even to you? No wonder most of your so-called obas bleach their skins to look like Arabs or is it Arab halfcast. Phewww once again and good night.





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There was no civilization in Benin during the reigns of the Ogisos. Civilization in Benin started after the arrival of Eweka from Ile Ife.

dederocs:
Your argument is baseless...cos you are speaking from heresay and folklore,it will be a waste of time to continue on this with you.

All your arguments did not establish anything.

Where you born then?

dederocs:
What is your point actually... Are u saying the term 'Oba' is a Yoruba word?... let me Enlighten you a bit, the name changing from the Ogiso title to Oba title, is just change in the description of the stool, the throne of the Benin Empire, it has nothing to do with where Oduduwa is from, pls your argument is baseless and really shallow.

Kingdoms all over the world, change the name of the throne, like the Victorian era, then Elizabeth... This is just change of names that several factors can cause to happen...so your point is weak,cos Oba is not a word owned by the Yoruba.

When did Benin became an Empire/Kingdom?

Is it during the days of Ogisos or during the reign of Oba Oranmiyan?

Efewestern:
this bini people should leave warri out of there madness, why are they dragging warri into this ?, how dare them declare a single tribe as the original owner of warri? , they shouldn't think because people are quite they can tell who owns warri, Urhobo, itskiri and ijaw both control there part in warri and we are happy with that. they should face they land and lets others be.

for those of you calling ijaw land grabber you know nothing about ijaw, ijaw land extend to ondo and Edo, most oil producing communities in Edo are ijaw communities.

they think this is 300yrs ago, try ijaw people, them go show you pepper, overated edo people..

Where in Ondo?

idris4r83:
The problem with the nigerian Christians is that they don't even understand the Bible, the don't read the Bible like the Muslims. Nowhere in the Bible where Jesus claims to b God. Nowhere in d Bible where Jesus said worship me.

Jesus is God. The Bible said so.

idris4r83:
this simply means you don't read your Bible very well. What will u say about this “These enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence” (Luke 19:26-27)

At the judgment day.

abdulkabirtobi:
Oga Pastor what can you say about these verses in your holy book?
Bible says that God is not man
‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)
‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)

Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible
‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)

‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31)

Any justification for all these contradictions? I'm more than sure you can not win this argument, your holy book is never perfect and will never be so y are u ranting upandan?

That is why the holy bible is 100% perfect.

Do you really need an explanation for those questions up there?

Aringon:
Somebody should send these Bible verses to the old man

Matthew 1:23 - “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

John 1:1-3 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”


Acts 20:28 - (God purchased us with His own blood)
Revelation 1:5-6; Revelation 5:8-9 - (Jesus' blood purchased us)

Titus 2:13 - looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ


Hebrews 2:17-18 - “Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.”

It is finished.

Icon4s:
Who snubbed who?

The then 18years old Ezekiel that was invited to the Flying Eagles camp in 2011 and then he turned it down. He was not ready for the Super Eagles until prio to 2014 WC when Keshi invited him for a friendly. Yes he was not ready to compete for space with wingers like Victor Moses, Chinedu Ogbuke, Obinna Nsofor, Sonne Aluko and Ahmed Musa.

In 2014 for whatsoever reason he went to the middle-east.

Rio, Siasia gave him another opportunity and also us another opportunity to re-assess his readiness for the Super Eagles.

Anthony Ujah, there was no way he could break into the Super Eagles as at that 2011 when he came to limelight.
He was instead invited to the U23 Camp along with Ighalo, Lukman, Oduamadi, Igiebor, Raheem, Oseni and co. He didn't really do so well.

He was left out to develop and got a couple of invitations during Keshi and Oliseh's reign but he didn't really meet our expectations. He was not the type of striker we were looking for.

So wetin come bring chop-chop for this one.

Before u were shouting nepotism. Now ur slogan is fraud and chop-chop. Lets discuss the football and put aside all unfounded insinuations pls.



Anthony Ujah


Personal information


Date of birth:14 October 1990 (age 26)

Place of birth:Ugbokolo, Nigeria

Height:1.83 m (6 ft 0 in)

Playing position
Striker

Club information:
Current team: Liaoning Whowin

Number
37

Senior career*

Years Team Apps (Gls)

2005–2007:Abuja FC

2008–2009:Warri Wolves 22 (13)

2010–2011:Lillestrøm 36 (27)

2011–2013: 1. FSV Mainz 05 12 (2)

2012–2013: → 1. FC Köln (loan) 28 (13)

2013–2015: 1. FC Köln 66 (21)

2015–2016: Werder Bremen 30 (11)

2016– :Liaoning Whowin 15 (5)

National team‡:
2013– Nigeria 7 (0)


* Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only and correct as of 30 October 2016.
‡ National team caps and goals correct as of 7 December 2015

Imagine 7 appearances for Nigeria and no goal. You dey say na chop-chop coaches cause am.

Are you saying there was nothing like chop-chop and nepotism ?

You mean Eziekel Imoh was not ready in 2012 to 2014?

Bros, Eziekel was never called when he was doing better than those invited.

2011 was the year he went on trial and was signed. I think his club didn't allow him because he had to settle down. No bi em fault. We saw many players did that ....


Eziekel was snubbed for two good seasons despiye performing well. 2012/2013 and 2013/2014 was the year he scored double digit goals but.......

How many goals did Emmanuel Eminike score after featuring for 37 matches?

How many matches did he play before scoring?



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Intellect20:
I don't mean development. I mean the grids...street alignment!

I was suprised when I saw that at Umuhia. Impressive!

Intellect20:
No. Umuahia is also planned. Biafran Government then planned both cities to Western stanadards as they envisaged using Umuahia as a secondary capital. Next is Enugu!

I have been to both citied in Abia state and I can categorically tell you that Aba is well planned than Umuahia.

Though, Umuahia is cleaner and better in terms of infrastructes but it is a small city compared to Aba.

If you want to see brown roof in Aba, visit Ohamuko, una go see enough.

We need to reconstuct our cities. Period.

Aba is the best planned city in the South East but the city infrastructures....

Icon4s:
Did you not watch matches of Ezekiel, Nwofor and Ujah? How have they ended up?

My take is the young man is doing great at the moment. But let him continue doing great by also moving to a more competitive league and then we re-assess him.

Onyekuru is young and he will surely get his turn of call up in our subsequent games if he continues doing well.

Ezekiel Imoh and Ujah were snubbed by chop chop coaches.

It has nothing to do with their talents.

When they saw Nigerian coaches no like them, they decided to follow money.

gabbytabby:
Sorry I do not know.

Ok. Thanks

Icon4s:
If Ezekiel, Iwobi and Success were in the team now and Simon is not. You would count Simon as being better than the other 3. No be u?

Hehehehe! No! No!

Honestly, if I see a player doing well, I will support the player.


The Imoh Ezekiel I saw at the Olympics was good and better than aforementioned.

Icon4s:
Even in his current state/form. He still has a lot to offer. Na make we discard him and invite Onyekuru u want abi?
Make Onyekuru go play for a team like Leicester first make we see as e go be for am.

Honestly speaking, some of our players are becoming redundant in their club these days because they feel national team is a sure Banker.


That is very bad for the national team. Musa needs to buckle up else Onyekuru and Aluko are coming for him.

Icon4s:
We are discussing a serious issue here. No jokes pls.

Did I sound like I am joking?

I repeat the Ezekiel Imoh I saw on the LW was better than Iwobi, Simon and Isaac.

Icon4s:
There were reports that Adi, Samuel and Chikatara limped out of the training ground. That was the report we got. We did not get any report that it was a big fat lie.

None of the strikers called for that Egypt clash was among the "Siasia boys". Ighalo and Iheanacho that made the final match day squads were they Siasia's boys?

So, Ighalo is not Siasia boy?

I didn't hear they limped out. We heard they didn't perform in training.

Icon4s:
Ahmed Musa needs to prove him.

U know I have once asked if you are new to the national team.

Bros, the Ahmed Musa I followed from the NFL to the Eredivisie, Russian League, U20 and the world cup is different from the one I am seeing in the Premier League

E bi like say, he lost confidence.

So, he needs to prove himself for us to know he has not expired.

maidaboi:
With kalu and henry do we need to fight for lookman?

We need him badly.

Icon4s:
Does the Imoh Ezekiel u saw at Rio look like a player that can command a place in the current Super Eagles forwards line?
Imoh Ezekiel initially snubbed Nigeria by refusing to play with the 2011 Flying Eagles.

Nobody is saying Onyekuru is not good but he is a surplus requirement to the position he would play for the Super Eagles for now. The wings are where we have the most abundance of quality players. For Musa and Simon not to be in first 11, that tells the story. Aluko is not even invited. Rohr may have picked Success ahead of Aluko and Onyekuru. Success cannot even be a starter yet.

Onyekuru is still young. His time will come IF he continues to improve.

Of course, Imoh Ezekiel I saw was better than Iwobi, Simon Moses and Isaac Success on the wing. Habi, you know see am?

Musa didn't perform to deserve a call-up. He needs to prove himself.

National team no be em Papa property.

Icon4s:
Forget about all these fraud allegations and less discuss objectively. I whole heartedly stand by TheGoodjoe on this.

But I still feel Osimhen needs to get his game started in his club for us fans and analysts to fully assess his readiness. Rohr may have been pleased with his performance in training the last time out which could be y he is giving him another look-in opportunity. We were not there at the training grounds with them, So what do I know?

Haba! Forget wetin!


Bros, we can't just sweep that matter under carpet, na.

Siasia claimed Adi and Samuel didn't perform in training. You and I know it is big fat lie.

Siasia wanted to promote em boys. Chikena!