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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:51am On Oct 05, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
This Bullcrap gotta stop right now!!!

Do you think you speak to people without "Brains"?

Don't take this "nonsense" to the IFFHS or international community of top football historians and analysts... You will be laughed off the podium mehn!

Gosh!!!! Lol
Controversial! Sorry.

http://footballlive.ng/footballnews/9ja-news/legend-kanu-but-iffhs-list-is-controversial/
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:45am On Oct 05, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Please... I honestly didn't wanna pick on this. It's a shame how people use certain details to pull down Kanu and others but turn a blind eye to what you just pointed out.

I saw this and knew this all along but I believe in keeping a debate like this fair and not an avenue for pulling down people.

I refuse to use this route Forgiveness was using on Kanu. Like I said, I don't wanna dim the lights on the achievements of our legends.


Pls, let's not dim Yeking's lights. He was a legendary beast in front of goal but the truth must be said. Yekini isn't Top 3 in Nigerian legends football folklore. Wonder why that is so hard to "see". Records don't lie... Or do they?
So, have you forgotten so soon how you started, huh? grin

Kontinue! But I will not stop exposing lies. If them like make dem call me names, I know who I am and nobody can define me. Sorry. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:37am On Oct 05, 2016
Pavarotti:
https://www.soccerassembly.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Bergkamp-and-Henry.jpg

Nigerian legend speaks on the influence Bergkamp and Henry had on his career

http://www.soccerassembly.com/thierry-henry-and-dennis-bergkamp-made-me-a-better-player-kanu/
grin Hehehe! Woah! Lol. I can't just stop bursting bubbles. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:30am On Oct 05, 2016
zicky:
Richard Owubokiri another Nigeria was also give that award before Yekini in lowly Setubal, as lowly as dundee united
Of course, Richard Owubokiri received it but Rashidi Yekini went beyond to win extra, first APOTY by a Nigerian, Best player of AFCON of the tournament and much more. Sorry! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:19am On Oct 05, 2016
zicky:
Sorry bruv in as much as many don't want to say it, its written all over you comments, this is not the first time someone is accusing you of such, so Bro look inward
Do you mean Icon4s the first to point the accusing finger? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:32am On Oct 05, 2016
safarigirl:
....maybe if you would stick to the topic rather than going on a crusade to save the reputation of your 'people', this thread would have some sanity to it.

I don't know why it's paining you this much that it's Kanu that has the title of Nigeria's Greatest, maybe you would have slept better knowing it was Yekini or Odegbami or someone whose name you could better relate to?

I know a lot of people intentionally try to keep this out of the conversation so as not to cause trouble, but more often than not, your baseless arguments tend to tilt in favour of a certain tribe.





Stop being so predictable and kniw when to let things go
Now, she going tribal. Sorry I don't do that. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:11am On Oct 05, 2016
zicky:
guy na laughing in. Tongues. 90goals for Portuguese second division club, it reminds me of that zambia player that scored 1000 goals. Legend for division 2 hahahahahah
What is Bola de Prata? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:02am On Oct 05, 2016
safarigirl:
Martins was on and off, a lot like V. Moses, some days you think he's stellar, other days, he's just shiiit in a fancy wrapper.

Yakubu? His allegiance has been questionable following his World Cup horror
Please, do remember that Kanu Nwankwo was crowned the king of 'miss of the season' Eze of misses. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:53am On Oct 05, 2016
safarigirl:
in 30 years time your Yekini's record will have been replaced by a more prolific scorer.

He may even be moved down by far more accomplished footballers to like Top 20 footballers.

You dey forbid progress ni?
AMEN! grin

From 1970 - 1984 Segun Odegbami was the number 1 Legend before somebody took over. grin

We are saying from the time of Rashidi Yekini till date nobody has been able to replace him but if someone does, no wahala. The point is nobi Kanu grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:27am On Oct 05, 2016
Icon4s:
What do you mean by statistics is all that matters.

Who is a bigger English legend between Steven Gerald and David Beckham?

Steven Gerald scored more goals for England than Beckham: 21 vs 17.
Both never won the WC or Euros but Gerald captained a team that won the UEFA champions league. Beckham also won the UEFA champions league.

But who is the bigger Legend and why?

Do you even know what legendary is all about?
"statistics is all that matters".
Who is the bigger Legend btw Roger Milla and Samuel Eto?

Who is the bigger Legend btw Drogba and Yaya_Tour?

Who is bigger Legend btw Maradona and Messi? grin

My oga at the top, please answer?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:25pm On Oct 04, 2016
Icon4s:
Kanu Nwankwo remains Nigeria's greatest football export. You can take that to the bank.
Bank just rejected Kanu Nwankwo, they asked for the greatest and I have no but to give them RASHIDI YEKINI the king of Nigerian football.


Tell us what he achieved for Nigeria. grin Don't mention tata competitions oo. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:29pm On Oct 04, 2016
Icon4s:
See, if you would easily market to the younger generation ur so called facts, you cant market that to me.

I grew up watching Yekini, I watched Kanu and Okocha. I know the approval ratings each got as at when they were active footballers.

If you want to test the popularity of ur facts, create a thread comparing all 3 players: Kanu, Okocha and Yekini and ask sports enthusiast to vote for their greatest legend.
Really! You grew up watching the Messi and Ronaldo of Nigeria but you don't know how good he played? grin


Statistics is all that matters.

Voting? shocked grin we know how it rolls. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:04pm On Oct 04, 2016
Icon4s:
Kanu Nwankwo and Austine Okocha are Nigeria's two most celebrated footballers. Take it or you leave it.

You can ask me for the letter of acknowledgement if you like.
Puuuubhaaaaah! grin sorry, you came too late for the party. grin

Facts does not lie. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:35pm On Oct 04, 2016
I 4 respond to the post above but I no wan make people vex hence I withhold my comment 4 another day. grin

At least, any small pikin wey read this thread in 30 years time go no who bi d number 1. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:16pm On Oct 04, 2016
I can't see. grin

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:14pm On Oct 04, 2016
Where?

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:11pm On Oct 04, 2016
zicky:
. In Tunisha 2004 he scored, lolzzzz. Even your. Conscience know you lie about the Atlanta celebration being less celebrated to the USA 94 goal, everybody was on the street, Nigeria even gat to form a song just for that match, the opponent- Brazil, players - Bebeto, romario, Ronaldo de Lima. Coming for 3-1 down, you forgot it was a golden goal I.e the goal was golden on its own lolzzzzz
For where e take score? grin

And who told you Nigerians didn't celebrate the first goal in FIFA BIGGEST ORGANISED COMPETITION IN THE WORLD? grin

Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:49pm On Oct 04, 2016
chrisooblog:
but sentiments aside kanu's goal scoring record for the super eagles is atrocious. especially as he is a striker. 3 world cups 6 AFCONs and not a single goal in sight.
@bolded shocked shocked

I never see person wey get luck pass am.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:42pm On Oct 04, 2016
Icon4s:
Gospel truth that what?

Who doesn't know d olympic is an age grade competition.

It is down graded yet Neymer and Brazil celebrated as though they have won the World cup.
Na still unrecognised age grade competition for tatas. Nothing more. Sorry. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:40pm On Oct 04, 2016
zicky:
even old men celebrated the goal scored by "tatas" more to the one scored by their fellow. Kanu won so many penalties for Nigeria during Afcon, if he wanted to score nothing stop him from taking one. Papilo, King Kanu
1994 World Cup was the first for Nigeria hence the magnitude of the celebration. It was crazy. grin

Go ask the old men. grin

What stopped stopped Kanu from scoring a penalty at the 2000 AFCON final?

He missed it. Sorry. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:28pm On Oct 04, 2016
zicky:
I hardly watch Euro cup,
My rating

1. World cup

2. Champions league

3. African Nations cup
That said it. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:56pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Okay... Uhmmm... You don win... Happy? wink

So uhmm.. Be very honest... Whose goal caused more ripples across Nigeria and Africa...?

1. Yekini's goal against Bulgaria (Nigeria's historic 1st at the world cup)

2. Kanu's goals against Brazil at Atlanta 96.

smiley

(Ohhh Lord.... But this is Forgiveness... We know his answer already... Looollll...) But answer all the same... Me I'm done with the debate.. Just answer.
Both. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:53pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
I wonder why he scored only one goal at the world cup. So much for being prolific. Looolllll

Sorry, it's just a banter... wink
Yes! He went 2 times scored once but Kanu went tiree.. teree.. sorry! THREE TIMES grin but goal he no score. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:41pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Uhmmm.... He missed a goal. It's 15 goals in 24 apps. (0.58) I have already stated that before.....

Yekini's is 37 goals in 58 apps... (0.64)


Had Usiyen played at least 50 games.... Yekini won't hold the record.

Usiyen was Nigeria's first authentic Super Striker not Yekini.

At USA 94, where were Yekini's goals?? He wasn't even our stand-out performer at the two world cups he played in.

Kanu also scored important earth-shaking goals for Nigeria. Atlanta 96 comes to mind.

He also gave the killer pass to Utaka for that famous win over Cameroun at Afcon 2004 to break Cameroun's hoodoo over Nigeria at the Afcon. We can go on and on... But Kanu takes it.
Usiyen na baller but he won nothing in 1976 AFCON. Full stop! grin

When the Authentic came, he did. Full stop! grin

At 1994 World Cup, he SCORED NIGERIA'S FIRST EVER GOAL IN THE BIGGEST FIFA ORGANISED COMPETITION IN THE WORLD. grin

Did Kanu make CAF team of the tournament in 2004?

Sorry! grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:35pm On Oct 04, 2016
zicky:
The garri and jollof rice angle from safarigirl is the conclusion of the whole debate. One a local champion, the other a world recognize champion
Which is greater UEFA Champions League or European Cup? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:24pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Yekini's record will be broken. And we all shall witness it.... Another golden generation rises and that is what this thread is all about.

Madam Safari.... Pls pardon me. I try to keep all things connected to this thread but sometimes the "elders" in the house just make one digress a little... Lolll...

Iheanacho, Osimhen, Sadiq Umar.... Etc... One of them must shatter that record. It's because it has stood for too long a time... That's what is making it look more special than it actually is.

I wonder what we all will call the man who scores 38 goals for Nigeria... Loollll.... "Nigeria's finest" abi?... Looolll.... (But yeah..if that man is Iheanacho or Osimhen or one of the other Rising Golden boys for Nigeria's Golden Generation NEXT.... Why not abi?? Loollll ) wink
Point of correction, records not record.

In addition to his records, he is the all time 3rd highest goal scorer in the history of African Cup of Nations. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
TheGoodJoe:
[size=14pt]Kanu Makes Greatest 100 Players List[/size]

Super Eagles striker Kanu Nwankwo has been voted as a member of the 100 greatest players ever club by the Association of Football Statisticians (AFS).

The Portsmouth striker was the only African player to make the list which was dominated by Brazilians and European players both past and present and headed by Edson Arantes do Nascimento popularly known as Pele and Diego Armando Maradona.


http://allafrica.com/stories/200711120538.html

You can argue as much as you like. The Association of Football Statisticians placed Kanu as one of the top 100 back in 2007. Yekini did not make it.
Europeans telling African man em Football history without Roger Milla, Abedi Pele, Raber Madjar, Rashidi Yekini, Hossan Hassan etc grin Chai!
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:23pm On Oct 04, 2016
phamarsenal:
yekini or KANU won't help us qualify for d world cup in Russia, lets live DAT issue and discuss abt d showdown DAT is going to take place in zambia , I read an article by a Zambian journalist insisting DAT we re dependent on kids ( iwobi and iheanacho), DAT dey lack d experience at d international stage. DAT statement made me rethink, because honestly d amount of pressure we re mounting on their young shoulders is immense and I just hope dey don't allow d pressure get d best of dem on Sunday. All in all I wish d super eagles success and luck on Sunday
It is very good they underestimate our kids before the start of the match. That is an added advantage.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:19pm On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Looolllll..... I watched Yekini. I watched Kanu.... I watched all Yekini clips so no one should play that silly card of you are "too young to know" on me. Yes, I was born years after Yekini began... I was only 6yrs during his twilight national team years in 1998

I repeat..... Yekini isn't Nigeria's Finest ever. That's a fact. That's the truth. That's what the records state and no one can do anything about it.

Maybe you don't know what It means to have a heart condition and still shun out legendary performances and attain top accolades. You don't understand the odds against which Kanu strived to still achieve Greatness and Glory for Club and Country.

I made mention of Thompson Usiyen earlier on this debate. No one wanna look into it ba??

But I put it to you that Not even Yekini had a better goals ratio than Usiyen in the GreenANDWhite... 15 goals in 24 games vs 37 goals in 58 games.....

Usiyen had a short stint in Nigeria's colors and the NFA (now NFF) mis-management of situations at the time contributed to his short span with the Eagles. Legend has it that had he been around, Nigeria would have made the 1978 World Cup. He was a born goal-scorer and set NCAA goals records...

I AM NOT SAYING HE'S MORE THAN YEKINI IN OUR RANKINGS OF LEGENDS... But when it comes to goals, he edges Yekini. I may have been born in the early 90s (around 92) but I do know my history and I research a lot and watched lots of clips from the past.

So term me whatever you want... Looollll...

Indomie generation... loolll... Little kid...loollll... Whatever mehn... Lollll...

But the records are there and PUTTING ALL PARAMETERS AND PERSPECTIVES TOGETHER AS A WHOLE....... KANU RANKS AS NIGERIA'S FINEST AND GAVE US SOME OF OUR MANY BEAUTIFUL MEMORIES AS A FOOTBALLING NATION.

MIKEL IS NEXT.... ANOTHER IS FINIDI... YEKINI IS UP THERE IN NO.4... OKOCHA MAY HAVE LACKED MUCH CLUB SUCCESS BUT HE GOT TO BE NO.5.... HE GAVE US BLISS AS A NATION ALSO....

The records are everywhere.... Meanwhile, look up more on Usiyen before you make it look or sound like Yekini was the first authentic "super striker" we had... That title belongs to Usiyen.

Yekini's title is Greatest Striker in Nigeria's history coz he's nigeria's record goal scorer..... I doubt if he would have held such record had Usiyen played up to 50caps... smiley

I refuse to bash our legends. I am tempted to do so... But I just gotta put my points across without dimming the lights of any of them.
I have seen both Yekini and Kanu live at the National stadium.

Greatest striker in Nigerian history! shocked grin

That is just one of Yekini's Greatest attributes.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:53am On Oct 04, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Looolllll..... I watched Yekini. I watched Kanu.... I watched all Yekini clips so no one should play that silly card of you are "too young to know" on me. Yes, I was born years after Yekini began... I was only 6yrs during his twilight national team years in 1998

I repeat..... Yekini isn't Nigeria's Finest ever. That's a fact. That's the truth. That's what the records state and no one can do anything about it.

Maybe you don't know what It means to have a heart condition and still shun out legendary performances and attain top accolades. You don't understand the odds against which Kanu strived to still achieve Greatness and Glory for Club and Country.

I made mention of Thompson Usiyen earlier on this debate. No one wanna look into it ba??

But I put it to you that Not even Yekini had a better goals ratio than Usiyen in the GreenANDWhite... 15 goals in 24 games vs 37 goals in 58 games.....

Usiyen had a short stint in Nigeria's colors and the NFA (now NFF) mis-management of situations at the time contributed to his short span with the Eagles. Legend has it that had he been around, Nigeria would have made the 1978 World Cup. He was a born goal-scorer and set NCAA goals records...

I AM NOT SAYING HE'S MORE THAN YEKINI IN OUR RANKINGS OF LEGENDS... But when it comes to goals, he edges Yekini. I may have been born in the early 90s (around 92) but I do know my history and I research a lot and watched lots of clips from the past.

So term me whatever you want... Looollll...

Indomie generation... loolll... Little kid...loollll... Whatever mehn... Lollll...

But the records are there and PUTTING ALL PARAMETERS AND PERSPECTIVES TOGETHER AS A WHOLE....... KANU RANKS AS NIGERIA'S FINEST AND GAVE US SOME OF OUR MANY BEAUTIFUL MEMORIES AS A FOOTBALLING NATION.

MIKEL IS NEXT.... ANOTHER IS FINIDI... YEKINI IS UP THERE IN NO.4... OKOCHA MAY HAVE LACKED MUCH CLUB SUCCESS BUT HE GOT TO BE NO.5.... HE GAVE US BLISS AS A NATION ALSO....

The records are everywhere.... Meanwhile, look up more on Usiyen before you make it look or sound like Yekini was the first authentic "super striker" we had... That title belongs to Usiyen.

Yekini's title is Greatest Striker in Nigeria's history coz he's nigeria's record goal scorer..... I doubt if he would have held such record had Usiyen played up to 50caps... smiley

I refuse to bash our legends. I am tempted to do so... But I just gotta put my points across without dimming the lights of any of them.
Hahaha! How did you know Usiyen played 25 matches for Nigeria national team? grin

Oya, prove it. grin

Was he highest goal scorer in 1976 AFCON ? grin

Was he among the CAF team of the tournament? grin

Was he the best player of that tournament? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:54am On Oct 04, 2016
joseph1013:
[b]We seem to be confusing things in this rank of who is more of a legend than the other.

Rashidi is more of a legend than Kanu, though Kanu is more known and much loved. But in terms of football attributes, and performance on the pitch, Yekini wins.

Perhaps it's because some here did not watch him play. Here am I just laughing at some comments.

Yekini I think had the highest goals for any African national team (bar Hossam Assam) until Drogba came into the frame.

He was our most prolific striker who was very intelligent in front of goal and out of the box.

He had the muscle, pace, positioning, speed, dribbling [at pace], shot accuracy and aerial power.

The worst thing is that looking at him, you will never refer these attributes to him.

Extremely intelligent player that only Okocha can claim to be Nigeria's best player before him.

No other Nigerian striker has matched up to that since. I repeat no Nigerian striker has matched him, past or present, considering we've had some really good strikers in the Eagles. His legendary goal scoring lives on.

He was such a prolific goal scorer that when you hear he is on the team sheet, you will be like "at least I know we will score, let the opposition just not score more ". Even in his club, he was a legend. I think he scored 90 goals in 114 appearance. That's a crazy stat. Before the extraterrestrial geniuses of Messi and Ronaldo came on the scene, that's about the best you were bound to see anywhere in Europe. It was crazy.

Consider that this was an era when it was taken for granted when black players were called monkeys. Someone like him played through pains and all those social abuses. It takes guts and mental mastery to pull something like that off in such a racist culture.

Setubal was a small club with average players but Yekini became top scorer in the whole league in his very first season in the top Portuguese league. Please realize that it was his 34 goals in 32 games that brought the club from second division to Primera league the season before that. CAF instantly took notice of his performance for club and country and made him the African Footballer of the Year. He was the very first Nigerian to win that award. What a pace-setter!

This might look like a bash, but Kanu did not measure to this standard. While Yekini was a sure starting 11 in all the teams he played for, Kanu was constantly on the bench in both club and country.

The same Kanu that played 87 times for Nigeria, and scored less than Okocha that played as a midfielder?

The same Kanu who spent 2/3 of his career on the bench in the Super Eagles, Ajax, Inter, Arsenal and West Brom.

Please, let's give respect to whom it's due.

Peace out!
[/b]
grin You sabi something.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:47am On Oct 04, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


When you talk of Kanu coming from the bench at Arsenal, Arsene Wenger was managing his heart condition. After the heart problem at Inter, we knew Kanu was never going to be that 90 minutes regular player.

This highlights how special Kanu was. Despite coming off the bench a lot, Gunners voted Kanu as the 13th best player in the history of the club. The man is a Legend. No matter how you play it. Doing this in a big club and not in an African team or a small club in Portugal.
Of course, he is a Arsenal Legend and that's all.


Now, I didn't say coming from the bench at Arsenal alone, I said he had always came from the te te. grin


At Ajax, he always came from the bench, at Inter Milan, he was a ball boy, at West Bromwich same thing, Portsmouth ko, same thing.

Point of correction, Victoria Setubal is the 4th most successful club in Portugal which was top 3 best leagues in the world as at that time grin.

Even doing it there without attachment is bigger bonus. grin

He won Bola de Prata ahead of Figo, Joao Pinto, Emil Kostadinov, Krasimir Balakov, Domingos Paciência,


Now, tell me, which Competition is the biggest UEFA Champions League or European Cup? grin

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