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tbaba1234:
Raheem Lawal is quite good but there are better options than Azubuike for now.

Can you please tell me who is /are those better options?

Icon4s:
That list is not far from the truth. I can even add some more names sef. We don see many of those guys finish. We have to move on and try other players.

I can only sigle-out Azubuike for the fact that he is up and coming. He may be out for now but not for long.

When last did you see Raheem Lawal finish? Single out Azubuike Okechukwu who is struggling to play in a Turkish second division over Raheem Lawal who plays in Turkey first division? Seriously?

terzurum5:
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Efe, Oduamadi, Akpeyi, Lawal In List Of Super Eagles Players With Little Or No Chance Of Playing Under Gernot Rohr
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As new Super Eagles coach Gernot Rohr settles down to the task of qualifying Nigeria for the 2018 World Cup in Russia.


Owngoalnigeria.com takes a look at some players who have played for the senior national team of Nigeria, at various intervals but presently stands no chance of representing the country during the World Cup 2018 qualifying series.


Daniel Akpeyi (Chippa United)
The Chippa United shot stopper was anointed by former Super Eagles goalkepper Vincent Enyeama as his successor but the emergence of Carl Ikeme has put a hold to his international hopes.


Rohr is now focused on three goalkeepers Carl Ikeme, Ikechukwu Ezenwa and Emmanuel Daniel and from leaks gathered by Owngoalnigeria.com, the only goalkepper he wants back is erstwhile number one Vincent Enyeama.


Efe Ambrose (Celtic)
He has survived four different Super Eagles coaches but unless his poor form and lack of games at Celtic change for the good, his national team career is as good as over after four years.


Raheem Lawal (Osmanlispor)
A bit harsh to suggest he has no future with the Super Eagles but from the plethora of options available in his preferred role. He stands no chance of earning a recall to the team he represented during the ill fated 2015 Nations Cup qualifiers and recently in a friendly game against Luxembourg.


Aaron Samuel ( Guangzhou R&F)
His case wasn’t helped by a serious knee injury that rocked his proposed deal with Russian giants CSKA Moscow. Came to prominence during the 2015 AFCON qualifiers and was given a look in during the recent AFCON 2017 double header against Egypt but didn’t make the match day squad for both games.


He presently stands no chance of playing under Rohr.


Slyvester Igbonu (UFA)
A regular in the team under Sunday Oliseh. The Russia based forward days with the Super Eagles were over from the day Oliseh was sacked as it appears only the coach has trust in his abilities. His chances under the German coach is not anyway close to bright.


Azubuike Okechukwu (Yeni Malatyaspor)
Won himself lots of admirers during Nigeria Under-23 campaign at the Olympics in Rio which Nigeria won bronze.


However despite having one cap for Nigeria, for now the new Super Eagles manager has options ahead of him and his case is made worst by the fact that he plays in the Turkish second division.


Joel Obi (Torino)
Forever on the fringes of the Super Eagles. Usually close to a breakthrough but never close enough to making a mark no thanks to injury. Presently not doing bad at Italian side Torino but has no chance of playing for Nigeria anytime soon with Rohr at the helm as coach.


Azubuike Egwuekwe (KuPS)
Late coach Stephen Keshi favourite defender. The AFCON 2013 nations cup winner is currently one of the best centre defenders in Finland but still no where close to what Rohr wants in his centre back. His days with the Nigeria national team is good as over under the German.


Paul Onobi (KuPS)
Sunday Oliseh’s trusted midfielder who once kept Chelsea ace Mikel Obi out of the team during the tenure of Oliseh as coach of the Super Eagles. A poor CHAN display, a not too impressive move to Finland coupled with better options ahead of him, should make him focus more on his club career for now.


Nnamdi Oduamadi (HJK)
Not setting the world on fire in Finland as expected. The AC Milan loanee is no doubt heavily talented but an unstable club career ruined his chances with the Super Eagles. He recently lost his spot as a starter for HJK. A sign of the little progress he has made which could further keep him out of the team.


* This list is by no means official. It is purely the opinion of the writer hence it’s not binding.

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First of all, we need to find out if what is written here emanated from Rorh or na de author opinion.


As we can see, it is glaring that this author mischievously wrote this em em..... to show his biased mind towards some players here.

I agree that Efe is warning the bench, Nnamdi Oduamadi, Azubuike Egwuekwe and Paul Inobi are in obscure league, Igbonu has many to contend with in the wing, Azubuike Okechukwu is in a second division of Turkey, Aaron Samuel is in chinko land and Daniel Akpeyi do himself away from the team.

But why em con take style style put Raheem Lawal for list? He said he has no future with the National team because of many options available in the National team and he stands no chance. Chisos!

His he for real? Seriously, who are those plethora of options ba?

Unfortunately, he refused to mention one but decided to style style pull him down.

Raheem Lawal is a box to box midfielder, AM, DM and CM, so who do we have in the mold of Raheem Lawal dat e doesn't stand a chance?

I no sa dat Joel Obi name na decoy. He no mean am. Na joke em dey joke

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terzurum5:
I think I have mistaken Ramon Azeez for Rabiu Ibrahim.
CC: Forgiveness.

Oh! I see.

terzurum5:
He did very well under Keshi?

Seriously I don't think so.

He came in the second half of one of our AFCON qualifiers when we were in search of a goal and he changed the the game which resulted to goals.

Icon4s:
What if the dynamics of the game requires u to play a lone striker? Say any of the variants of the 4-5-1 formation.?

Sorry. Playing him depends largely on who plays behind him and who the opponent is.

Icon4s:
Would you play him as a lone striker instead of Ighalo?

No for now. He should support.

Icon4s:
So what role do you think is most suitable for him in the Super Eagles?

Second striker or striker.

TheGoodJoe:
What of the first time you saw Iheanacho play as a ten?

U17 is different from professional football.

Icon4s:
Ah! U are mixing things up. I think u need to know the difference between a number a 10 & an 8.
In a 4-5-1, 4-2-3,1, 4-1-4-1 or 4-4-1-1 the player behind the CF is the number 10. While in the 4-4-2 formation the second striker (supporting striker) is the number 8. Iheanacho and Etebo can function well as either 10 or 8 depending on how the team is set up.

Iwobi has mostly been played as a winger for the national team.Although he can also play the number 10 role.

According to positioning along the field, attacking midfield may be divided into left, right and central attacking midfield roles. A central attacking midfielder may be referred to as a playmaker, or number ten (due to the association of the number 10 shirt with this position).[27][28] A good attacking midfielder needs good passing abilities, vision, the ability to make long shots, and solid dribbling skills.

These are the functions of a no 10 according to these association.

TheGoodJoe:

Iheanacho plays the ten role well. For Man City, he is a striker. That is where the coaches want him to play. Iheanacho said it many times he can play well in different roles. Including the ten role and on the wings.

Although, I prefer him striking because of his regular striking training at Manchester City.

Well, the last time I saw him played there, he flopped big time. The boy na goal scoring machine.

Icon4s:
Leon Balogun under Keshi played as a RB. I would be more comfortable seeing him at RB than Musa Mohammed. Musa Mohammed mayb for the future. He might deputise for Balogun for now.

And u are then one that wanted to give automatic jersey to Otigba from "Omerue".

If we wan chop goal then play him at the RB. No wahala.

Not automatic, try him there first let us see if they will perform better. That's all. This on na world Cup oooo.

Icon4s:
I don't know Rabiu and Ajagun to be wingers.

For the number 10 role Iheanacho is available. Etebo also plays 10.

Iwobi is naturally a winger and if he is injured just like the Tanzania game we have so many wingers na.. Musa, Etebo, Simon, Ezekiel, Moses .The coach can also draft a striker like Success to the wings.

These two players are naturally no 10.

Icon4s:
I don't know Rabiu and Ajagun to be wingers.

For the number 10 role Iheanacho is available. Etebo also plays 10.

Iwobi is naturally a winger and if he is injured just like the Tanzania game we have so many wingers na.. The coach can also draft a striker like Success to the wings.

Iwobi na number 10 for Nigeria National team. Etebor no bi no 10 na no 8.

Iheanacho is not no 10. He is no 9 and no 8.

Icon4s:
Just like how some peeps condemned Ekong before the Olympics.

Omeruo is still one of our best CBs. Defenders make mistakes once in a while.

Omeruo and Ekong can form a CB pairing. No harm in inviting Otigba to compete also. But to say outrightly that Otigba should replace Omeruo is a no-no for me.

Leon Balogun started off as a RB for us. I don't know if Musa Mohammed can face the opposition at the qualifiers, considering also that he was recently released by his Turkish club. Leon Balogun can take up that RB role. No room boyish mistakes as every game would be like a cup final.

Leon Balogun had always been a CB and I can see he more comfortable there.

Another fresh legs needs to be tried. No more automatic Jersey for any player. We should try Otigba and Brain Idowu.

Icon4s:
This is part of what I was arguing with TheGoodJoe and Tbaba the other day about.

We have gone past that stage.

We don't need these type of distractions.

What brought Iwobi to limelight? Is it not his performance?

You perform, you get a chance, you don't perform and you get kicked out out. That should be the norms.

No player get automatic Jersey for National team.

TheGoodJoe:
Musa Mohammed had back up with Onazi drifting to the right back role when he overlapped.

Seems Rohr saw Onazi's game under Keshi, I think Congo where he played as a right back. When Musa Mohammed overlapped, Onazi covered during counters.

It looks nice but against skillful and fast Algerians is a different question.

Well, I dey observe.

Icon4s:
This is part of what I was arguing with TheGoodJoe and Tbaba the other day about.

We have gone past that stage.

We don't need these type of distractions.

So, if Iwobi get injury God forbid, who should replace him? or if these players perform well for their clubs, you mean Iwobi don buy Nigerian National team Jersey?

Icon4s:
We should not play Iwobi and Moses together cos they dnt like defending or are poor defenders? Oya list our wingers that like defending.

From the formation I posted I did not drop Balogun from the CB position. I only put Omeruo/Ekong i.e. either of the two to partner with Balogun at CB.

On a second thought why not Balogun play RB so Ekong and Omeruo play CB. I don't trust Musa Mohammed with that RB yet. The Luxembourg and Tanzania games are not true tests.

And why do you want "Omerue" to be dropped for Otigba?

Musa Ahmed and Simon Moses.

OK na.

I noticed the way Musa Mohammed played but I fear the way he drifted into the midfield without a backup.

Well, Na inconsequential matches.

Omerue always lose concentration. It's high time we test another defender.

TheGoodJoe:

Take into context a striker's ability to take on defenders and score. Most of our strikers depend on the midfield to create clean chances for them.

With the way Success turned Bailly inside out like if Success was removing his singlet gives us an idea of his ability with the ball.

At the end, I expect the coach to make his choice after watching them in camp.

He has turned many la liga players inside out but the end product na fa fa fa fowl over the bar.


Make the coach shine eye before em decide. 2018 World Cup na most oooo.

Besides, Ighalo got skills to take on defenders. Watch last season and you will know.

TheGoodJoe:


This is not judged by I have seen. It up to Rohr to invite Isaac Success to camp, carry out some attacking and shooting drills. If he is prolific, then Rohr can play him up front.

I can not forget his sweet finish at the U20 World Youth Championship. Such confidence.

I am not saying he should not be invited but I am saying there is no excuse in try and error for National team.

U20 don pass tey tey. Watch him now and you will realise what I am talking about except his present coach drill him on that.

terzurum5:
Do you know the late Stephen Keshi tried him out before Sunday Oliseh?

He played 2-3 matches for late Keshi and he did very well but Mr Moral deflator came in destroyed his confidence with his 4 minutes substitution.

lakesidepapa:
Egbon?? Success is a striker.., abi nobi Isaac success of Manu U17? he played as a winger at granada, I think he can regain his scoring ability if he finds his way as a striker. More so, he also got an eyes for goal.


He's just good in the front, both as a striker and winger

He has been converted to a winger tey tey, no bi today. Besides he lost his goal sense.

terzurum5:
Yes You lie no be small.
How many chances Rabiu Ibrahim wan get with Super Eagles before him go make statement for himself.

Iwobi all the way a beg.

Hehehe!

Oliseh the moral deflator came and destroyed his confidence. Prior to Oliseh era d boy created chances for us to score.

terzurum5:
Yes You lie no be small.
How many chances Rabiu Ibrahim wan get with Super Eagles before him go make statement for himself.

Iwobi all the way a beg.

Hehehe!

Icon4s:
You see, football is dynamic. Gone are those days when only natural wingers play from the wings. Did you notice in d second half of the Watford vs Manu game Ighalo played from the wings. Strikers can be made to play from the wings depending on the dynamics of the game.

And note that national team football is different from club football. Success is a striker that can also play from the wings.

We have wingers aplenty of which Iwobi and V. Moses are first choices(my opinion). Where we need more bite and dynamism is in the attack.

Brown Ideye has been with Super Eagles for almost 4yrs and d only highlight I have abt his contribution to the Super Eagles was that jab he made to Emenike from which we scored against Burkina Faso in our 2013 AFCON group game. Which form are u talking about now that he could not display while he was at the more competitive EPL. Greek league na league? We are talking about building a new team and so we need players whose careers are on the rise. We have seen the better days of Ideye.

And pls, pls Mr forgiveness, any thing I post here is strictly my opinion and nothing to do with what happens at the glass house or any where else.Pls.

Sorry Oga!

Super Eagles is different from club football. It is like playing Iwobi as a striker if we go by what you said.


Success has been converted to a winger tey tey, no be today. He should play from there.

Remember, Victor Moses was once a striker before he was converted to a winger. So, can we use him as a striker?

We can not a new team on sentiments but we can only built team on current form of players.

In the name of building new team you go bring a player from division 2 ahead of a inform player in Greece. That one no go work.

I think you read one article about how two players in USA team broke into the national team when given the chance. Now, that is what I am talking about.

Moreover, Instead of Isaac Success I will rather call Fenando Adi.

Icon4s:
You dare put Rabiu Ibrahim and Abduljeleel Ajagun on the same line with Alex Iwobi.
Na wa.

Of course, why not? Give Rabiu Ibrahim and Abdul Ajagun chance for National team and dem go perform wella. Abi I lie?

Icon4s:
The challenge we may have as regards goals scoring is how to best utilize the Iheanacho-Ighalo strike partnership combination.

Ighalo thrives better in a 4-4-2 formation. Being a lone striker in a 4-5-1 formation does nt really favour him. He needs someone to play with him.

I initially opined that Iheanacho be made d point man but after several considerations I think Ighalo should remain d point man in a 4-4-1-1 formation with Iheanacho playing behind him just like in the Tanzania game. Iheanacho should be made to combine more with Ighalo while also finding space to aim for goal. With this we can easily switch between 4-4-2 & 4-5-1.


I would like a formation like this:

.................Ighalo

Iwobi......Iheanacho.....V. Moses

..........Mikel
....................Onazi

Echiejile...Ekong/Omeruo...Balogun.. (?)

4-4-1-1.

My major concern in that defends is the RB. Though Musa Mohamed did well against Tanzania, but I am not completely sure we have got a right back that can stop the rampaging Algerian, Zambian and Cameroonian attackers/wingers.

Against Tanzania We attacked more and didn't face any major attacking threats. Mohammed was almost a winger in that game. Can he make those runs againt our WC qualifying opponents and we wouldn't get punished?
Well Shehu Abdulahi is another candidate. Let d coaches decide.

This not bad but I don't think Iwobi and Victor Moses should be played at the same time because they don't like defending or are poor at it.

Moreover, you can not drop your best defender for another. Balogun I watched today his better in that position than either Omerue or Ekong.

I think another defender like Otigba or Brain should replace Omerue. On the right wing we can try Musa continuously.

It is just my opinion.

terzurum5:
Victor Moses Misses begging chances too. Imoh Ezekiel's current form is not that Fantastic, he only was when Stephen Keshi was the Coach. Besides he has not been regular with the Eagles so Success should take his place. Who knows if Success make bring something new and better.

You can say that again. But I think Victor Moses is still ahead of Success.

Remember, Imoh Ezekiel contributed to the bronze medal we just won at Rio. So, how is he not fantastic?

Imoh Ezekiel has never been given a chance with the National team hence he has never had a place but that is not fair.

Icon4s:
Success may likely be invited as one of the strikers. I would take him over Ideye.

He may not b a starter yet but can deputies for Ighalo.

Chai! are you indirectly telling us what is going on behind the curtain with the National team selection kwa?

I see! So, Dey have decided to drop inform Ideye for a winger.


Success is not a striker. Why bring him for a striker?

Rorh we dey observe ooooo. No follow follow follow Nigerian coaches oooo.