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bigname23:
Bros na ur own b dat from ...my own personal experience though I b hustler ...but nor b me hustle pass, sum of my guys wey hustle pass me never still live life pass me ..Grace has been the defining factor in my life...in words of Victor ad ...nor be who hustle pass dey carry first oh, na ur grace I take dey live oluwa

So oluwa de bless u pass some people way hustle pass u? How rich are u pls? I have a feeling dangote no go see ur back

bigname23:
but it doesn't change the fact he is still giving me in dis messed up country..not just d country self ...from a rough background in a poor country ...infact dat gives me more reasons to b grateful to him

So he is giving u because he knows u are in a messed up country, if u were in a good and organized country, he will not bother because he knows u can get good things without his help? I just want to understand ur logic.

But who is giving goodies to politician children who are enjoying in this messed up country?

Dtruthspeaker:
I Always Answer sincerely, so, No, I did not and will not!

U don't want the Leah to b released?

Hermes119:
What am I missing ?

Christians are claiming Atheism is a religion and at the same time are saying Christianity is not a religion,I don't understand what is religion ?

Seriously, I am suddenly confused. I grew up knowing we have 3 major religions in Nigeria. Islam, Christianity and traditional(which is generally groups of our local beliefs).

All these are forms of worship to a supposed supernatural being. Now the relationship between humans and these supposed supernatural beings are the act of worship through prayers and sacrifice.

Christianity is no more among the three major religions in Nigeria.. It is not worship it is relationship with Christ. Whoever came up with this must have confusion as his last name

bigname23:
bros it takes faith to get answers from God, my advice for u will be to get materials (books,tapes) that will build ur faith..but personally from experience I can tell u God exists ..if nor b God men like us for nor dey alive 2day..based on wetin we don see for dis life..we nor 2 day pray like dat but we dey experience grace on a constant

So u get faith pass the op? Hw did u come about that conclusion?

flyingdutchman:
Don't dismiss someone else's opinion disrespectfully pls. You do not know my story or if I have had certain experiences with my child. Let's respect ourselves pls. Thanks.

it is not an anomaly, if u dont know something u ask question. u can never experience anything with ur child that will make a two years old by having erection an anomaly.

flyingdutchman:
Anomalies do occur. Some children have a slightly higher burst of testosterone for that age.

Oga, it's not an anomaly abeg. U guys should not say what u don't know.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
That's a personal thing for me. There is a way I relate with the creator.

This here is the problem with belief. U are asked what u need the belief in a creator for, u say its a personal thing. U know there is nothing personal about it... U just know that ur reason will hold no water.

Why exactly do people hold unto rubbish is the really amazing thing here.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
I left religion in 2018. I don't believe in all these religious dogmas and beliefs anymore.

But I know there is a supernatural being behind this world and I believe in him.

U believe in him to do what for u?

From ur responses I can confidently say that ur journey to atheism is likely to start anytime soon.

U clearly know that ur believe is dumb and l can see ur struggle to make sense of it even in ur responses. Soon u will get tired and become an atheist.

Welcome to atheism in advance.

gentlestdude:
My own is why should your pastor be the one to choose who you're gonna marry

Imagine... A 38years old so called BSc holder does not know what she wants in a man and is looking up to her pastor to tell her to marry someone. And she wonders why she is still single and searching... Men obviously know they don't want a dullard for a wife.

Stupid people everywhere... U are a BSc holder and a pastor is telling u who u will marry. My sister u deserve to marry a shoe maker, the ones that hawk their services with the tool kits.

Pray for ur leaders so as to achieve what exactly?
Christianity is all about taking actions that yeilds no result but u just continue doing it anyway.

It's is only a foolish man that continues doing the same thing over and over again eiht no result.

U have been praying for Nigeria and ur leaders for the past 50 years, yet the steal your money and the nation continue to dwindle. They become richer while u, the prayer worrier continue to eat the crumbs...

U pesole have decided una no go get sense, continue.

Dobson43:






I would give you a mature advice since that's what you want. Your present boyfriend is just your boyfriend. He is not betrothed to you neither has he paid your dowry. Don't limit yourself at this stage of your life. Experiment, try new things, discover yourself. If you feel the urge to move on, do move on. You clearly have a thing for this guy and one can conclude that all you need is a push.



Based on your level in the university, one can determine your age. Some callous folks would call this stage you find yourself a whøre phase, but the true is we all have this identity crisis. We do not actually know ourselves. Certain people we see typify those characters we do have but can't express. They inspire this qualities in us to be birthed.




I don't want to go too philosophical, but I am going to tell you this: twenty years from now, you would wish you were more adventurous, you would wish you tried new things and you would understand that life is worth living and you would not allow yourself wallow in bondage because you are in relationship. Ships are supposed to move you in a certain desired direction. Either it moves you or you jump ship.




But the real truth is, you have broken his heart and emotionally screwed him over. Have the decency to break it up

Wow... U and I must have been twins in another life. Nice one

And they keep proving atheists right... That's why we do not believe rubbish, it always comes to this.

She is still lying that God asked her to come to this church and confess. No God told her anything... Her conscience only made her do it.

The stupid thing about Christianity is that God who has the ability to speak with them and give them instructions never tells them anything reasonable, he can tell her to ensure he comes to this church and confess but he can't tell anyone about corona or try to warn the girl being raped in his church... Mcheww

This is the funniest news I have heard... In a while.

The argument that the universe must have a creator based on certain observation is different from saying the creator is one God who is timeless and this God sent Jesus or Mohammed as his messenger and this God wants us to worship him bla bla bla...

U have tried to analyze why u think the universe has a creator, a reasoning pattern that is OK for u brain to do.

However, u can't know if this creator is one or belongs to a larger family, we can't know why he chooses not to be seen, we can't know it's reason for creation because we simply used our of deductive thinking pattern to assume the universe must have a creator...

It's okay to find a watch in the desert and assume the watch was created based of its sophistication... But u will be making a mighty extra leap by saying the watch was created by just one scientist and this scientist's name is Musa and Musa wants to be worshiped and Musa likes rice and Musa gets angry when the watch moves anticlockwise instead...

That being said... Why is it so important to assume the universe has a creator? What does this simple knowledge to for u in ur daily hustle?

thankgod460:
My response shocked you!
Let me tell you, you actually responded based on your understanding. Now I understand you wella, thanks Mr atheist for our conversation.
Cheers

Mcheew... Have a nice day. U guys never fail to dissapoint. I hope u are on ur way to the mortuary to raised dead people there. U are lucky, no one will bother about death in ur family.

thankgod460:
Sir, it's my pleasure to tell you that I am not living a miserable life. By his grace bestowed upon me I heal the sick, also by his Greater Grace upon me I raised the dead. It's a pity you don't know me. I am not a pastor but the believe I have in the grace of God help me to achieved this testimony I shared today.
I am testifying to what I have seen, hear and experienced. I am not just making noise
Any other things you want to know or can you heal the sick or raise dead?

u seem to be confused at your own response.

let me jog ur memory a little.

you said this

thankgod460:
All this your episode is just because you people did not understand what grace is all about. Christianity is not all about enjoying or merriment in this wicked and polluted world. We are here to serve a living God from our heart through righteousness and obedient to his words.. our hope of glory and eternity is Christ.
John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

We are are meant to face challenges of this world and overcome..... Overcoming this world means despite all our labor here on earth, we never denied the existence of the most high and his Greater Grace Jesus his son.

you are meant to face challenges and overcome them just like anyone in the world. like i mentioned, such challenges u are meant to face include, hustling to earn a living, getting sick and taking medications, being affected by buharis dumb decision and covid19, facing sad news and feeling very bad. all these things are being faced by anyone who does not care about ur God and most always over come them.

then i said this

frank317:
Are challenges peculiar to Christians? What exactly makes u stand out as a Christian or as someone who knows the creator?
If u are meant to face challenges what then is the purpose of all the graces u mentioned above?

Since u are here to suffer why did the lord promise the he will supply ur all ur needs according to his riches in glory? Why all the promises of ask and it shall be given all over the place in the Bible.

So u are saying the grace u have been mentioning up and down is usless since it does not stop u from facing challenges like any other person that does not obey God?

What exactly do u have to offer as a christian on this earth?

then u went all powerful on me and responded with u being able to raise the dead. how can someone who has accepted he faces such challenges as i mentioned above suddenly be able to raise the dead. and also claim he heals the sick... u have the power over death and sickness yet, a dumb decision from buhari affects u?

i dont know who is confused between u and the God u serve.

Dantedasz:
Here comes the NARCISSISM! Its embedded in all Christian's.

And that was where I knew responding to him was unnecessary.

The same person who claims he is here to face challenges is trying to form he can raise the dead blah blah blah.

Someone who will die and can't do anything about it is telling me he has the ability to bring back the dead, meanwhile the death he can over come in other lives will over come him.

If u can raise the dead and still eventually die then u are a fool.

Oga, I just no fit shout

thankgod460:
All this your episode is just because you people did not understand what grace is all about. Christianity is not all about enjoying or merriment in this wicked and polluted world. We are here to serve a living God from our heart through righteousness and obedient to his words.. our hope of glory and eternity is Christ.
John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

We are are meant to face challenges of this world and overcome..... Overcoming this world means despite all our labor here on earth, we never denied the existence of the most high and his Greater Grace Jesus his son.

Are challenges peculiar to Christians? What exactly makes u stand out as a Christian or as someone who knows the creator?
If u are meant to face challenges what then is the purpose of all the graces u mentioned above?

Since u are here to suffer why did the lord promise the he will supply ur all ur needs according to his riches in glory? Why all the promises of ask and it shall be given all over the place in the Bible.

So u are saying the grace u have been mentioning up and down is usless since it does not stop u from facing challenges like any other person that does not obey God?

What exactly do u have to offer as a christian on this earth?

HoliMaree:
If satan was in heaven what makes you think he's not in the church too? there are some Wolves in Sheep clothing and God has warned us about this. Pastor Fatiyinbo has been accused of rape crime by some females even in his church. Who knows if the person who raped her also went there in pretense to pray but his actual aim was to commit crime. So why is God being blamed for devil's crime? There is no where on earth where we don't see evil people, even in Churches and Mosques.

Ur God is not being blamed, u guys like shifting posts like u are not seeing the question right in front of u.

Is ur God capable of saving her? Someone said he is capable but chooses not to (which makes me wonder why)

If u are a soldier and u see and bloody civilian who u obviously can win in a filght, trying to rape ur daughter will u stay there and watch?

I know the next answer will be asking me why do I blame God... Is this how they thought u in church to answer questions?

thankgod460:
Let me tell you this : there are types of grace
1. General grace - it includes rainfall, sleeping and waking up, sunshine etc you can enjoy this either you know God or not.
2. Grace of salvation : those that experience this grace are people that accepts Jesus as their lord and Savior
3. Grace of miracle:
4. Grace of giving
5. Personal grace
6 Divine grace

LOL... See classification of grace.

Yet anyone who experience all these graceses as classified above will still fall sick, will still dies, will hustle to make it in life, Will be affected by buhari's dumbness, will remain locked in because of covid 19, will experience loss of loved one and the sadness that follows...

U go de pack grace like Nigerian certificate, and u will never experience comfort in life like trumps son. Grace that cannot do anything for u, is that one grace?

TheBlessedHero:
So "every living creature" need not be a christian, to receive the grace of God?

If so, what's the benefit of being a christian, that other living creatures won't enjoy?

Nothing... Their own is just to be disturbing with God God God despite him being as useless as the G in nothing.

Tobechuckwu:
My God is more than capable.

But just refuses to help?

Tobechuckwu:
U already have a biased opinion about the whole thing.
I'm not blaming the girl,but there was no precautions method put in place. What if she was robbed of her belongings also because she was going there alone at night?
I still repeat myself, d church was on lock down during the time which was highly risky going there alone at night, but that doesn't justified what was done to her. The society is dirty already, evil is everywhere and my Bible tells me the heart of men is Desperately wicked.
My God is just, so u can't put it on God. God is a righteous judge.
The evil men will be fished out nd face their judgement.

Was ur just God capable of doing anything about her situation or not.

thankgod460:
Grace function as a free gift from God through the death of his only begotten son which gives us access to God directly without going through any priests for sacrifice either for requests or pardon.

Hmmm... OK grace gives us access to God, nice. So what is the advantage of this access? What can the person who has the grace (that can access the creator of this whole wold) achieve or do in this world that I can't do because I don't have grace...

thankgod460:
What are you insinuating? Are you saying that people with grace are meant to live forever or what?

He is indirectly asking... What is the function of grace?

Most Christians here are saying two things at a time... They are saying is both useful and useless.

Let's be clear on what grace does for a Christian.

[quote author=fieryy post=90192313][/quote]LOL... Thought I was the only one who got totally confused. Seems u guys are not arguing the same thing. U are saying A, he is saying M

Dtruthspeaker:
My answer will not change. We are all children fighting over land, who took my thing, why did you beat me, why did you this me, why did you that me, quarrelling and fighting and Destroying our Father's Property.

It is All the same thing. He is Father (Up There), we are babies (Down here).

How does this stop him from understanding the pain of the little girl that was Murdered and the pain her parents would go through and understand that his actions at that moment will make things better for the parties involved?

OH sorry, he already knows and is enjoying the show.

Oghenerobo2002:
I believe u r not wayward, a drunk, or into any society. Why have u not done blood money? Or sleep with as many women as in the city? That's because u made a choice and living by it. Those that chosed the above, was it Gods fault? No is the answer. As much as we want to fault God for his 'know all', we also have a big role to play. That's the choice. We have chosen to become successful the right way instead of the other way.

I take responsibility for my actions. I do not steal or do blood money because I know the consequences of these acts and I am not ready to damn them.

This discussion is not about all that neither is it about me faulting God or anything.

The discussion is about u believing that God knows me and u or the parents of the girl that was Murdered will go through this pains as a result of freewill and will went ahead to create the world just be as messed up and he already know...

Who then is faulting God here? Is it u that believe in the shit about God or me that don't believe any God is capable of such stupidity?

Dtruthspeaker:
First of all you are a fool for giving your children a gun for you know and ought to know that your child must use it.

That's how stupid ur God was when he dropped the tree of knowledge in garden for Adam and eve knowing that they will definitely go eat it and mess his world up.

Secondly, you have been using your freewill jejely and correctly like your child driving your car. E Don dey drive well since, dat na why you dey let am drive d motor. The day E con jam, U no go ask am wetin happen?

The real question is, is God perfectly OK with the trun out of freewill that he already knows will not turn out well?

Learn to take Responsibility for all your acts. Once you have power to act, you are already immediately liable for it, just like renting a house and you no wan pay rent, U wan Kon dey blame landlord for giving you house, rather than pay your rent.

U are the one who believes that ur all knowing God knew that outcome of our freewill but created us to use it and mess up anyways. U are the one who should learn to take responsibility of ur actions instead of believing being knows all actions u take with ur freewill.
If my landlord knows I will not pay my rent he will not give me the house. But if he knows I will not pay and still give me the house, then he is to blame for my actions because he should have avoided the mess in the first place. My actions will happen because he knows it will happen.
I don't believe in any nonsense confusing being and know my actions are totally my responsibility.. I and just worried for u.

My friend, man shall always be responsible for his actions and Inactions and Must Explain Himself To His High Ogas!

Drink u own bitter pills and use ur brain. U cannot be a married bachelor.. U cannot believe that ur creator knew about u and ur actions even before u were born and still believe that u are responsible of ur actions... U are just trying to play safe for nothing and look at were it has brought u.