₦airaland Forum

Maximus69:
He is not asking us to restore, NO!

He only ask us to search for those who wish to live by common principles, teach them his standards and keep encouraging one another as the day of his anger keeps approaching! Matthew 10:13-15 compare to Zephaniah 2:2-3

Never mind Sir, stay cool because all these is none of your business!

I have told u and given u reasons why this ur God given mission will never be a success.. It's sad that even ur all knowing God does not even understand the world he created.
How long have u guys been existing and u k ly have 8 million member all over the world.. That's not even up to the number of people in Lagos. Even among ur converted some ad falling out. I wish u and ur God luck.

Maximus69:
Well i've been to place my friend, and i'm telling you today that there is no organization that's doing it except Jehovah's Witnesses!

First of all, you guys trust in science and that's not too bad, but when it comes to studying the heart of humans, it's beyond your grasp Sir!

While science can help you to produce or manufacture things useful for your personal use and even other, studying the minds of humans around you will give you rest from fears of the unknown!

Throughout the earth today, there is just one organization that everyone knows for sure that their doctrines is surely attached to their brains!

Jehovah's Witnesses!

That's what makes them the one and only group that can possibly meet up with what we're saying, not just those who trashes their religious beliefs in times of trouble!

Park well. U are full of bullshit

LordReed:
Well good luck in your search then. LMFAO!

Better good luck wish na watin him need... Imagine God asking limited humans to hlep him restore a world he created... Nonsense and ingridient

Ineedtoheal:
No one says it must lead to marriage oga. why keep what you don't need? If You really don't see yourself in few years time with someone, why waste their time? did you really read all I wrote? coz if you did, you wouldn't have make this comment.
I have begged him on several occasions to end things with me if he knows we don't have a future together but he refused. Mind you, it's not just a Nigerian thing. you guys are so quick in calling Nigerian girls out.

LOL.. I are begging him to end things with... Who ends a free Bleep?

Maximus69:
You're really funny my friend, even a ravenous wolf lives in PEACE with itself!

What we're saying is how are you able to relate with people in your neighbourhood PEACEFULLY?

I am in peace with over 8,600,000 people globally even though i've never seen them before!

HOW?

Because we are all governed by the same line of thought!
I can travel to any part of the earth and i'm assuring you now that even in your own home town where you have no other place but your family house, Maximus69 will enter the town and my JW brothers there will received me hospitably because the book "Bible" has made us one big and happy global family of PEACE loving worshipers!

That's what REAL PEACE meant Sir!

U keep on repeating this nonsense and I just wonder how old u are. Is JW the only organization that recognizes and accommodate it member in strange lands. What's the big deal about this?

Maximus69:
I think that's simple!

Going by the way he's been expressing himself, the Bible God's explanation is detailed and sounds logical to him!

So it's okay for the Christian God to be logical to him but not okay for the Muslim God to be logical to a Muslim?

Firstnebo:
You may know "absolutely nothing" about God. But that's because you choose so, not because the information is not there. The Bible gives enough information on the personal name, age, likes and dislikes of God. Then it tells us how he dealt with many people in the past. And what his purpose for our earth is

So u are sure that the creator is one person and not a family or friends or mystical elephant?

What is ur purpose on earth?

RealMrNigerD:
I really don't claim to know what this god looks like and how many they are for now. I only wish to be scientific about showing that there must be god(s) behind creation.

What exactly is the benefit of accepting that there must be god(s) when we know absolutely nothing about it or them. Why is the the belief that a God exist more important than knowing that God exists and having better detail of him or her or them?

RealMrNigerD:
O common! you know them. The laws of science all point to the existence of god. The first law of conservation of matter is interpreted to mean God was the uncreated first cause.
Then again is the equilibrium that exists in the universe, shows that a god guided by justice has to be behind sustaining the universe, else there should be no equilibrium. It takes a lot of intellectual investment to bring balance when you have so many forces at work. Every engineer knows that.
Then you have the order that exists in the universe. We don't come into a very well arranged house and think it just happened. All scientific laws point to order rather than chaos which is expected when things just happen. There must be an intelligence to create and maintain order. When you see a robot, you don't have to wait to meet the manufacturers before you believe they exist, do you? We have never seen an accidental robot, not to talk of a well organized universe as gigantic as ours...
Should I go on?
Now don't forget my challenge to prove evolution while you're on this.

Let me pretend these are pointers... How did u know it was done by a God and not a family I'd gods or aliens or red headed dragons or by a mystical elephant?

Firstnebo:
There is a person that has the authority and the power to be identified as God because he alone ever existed. He is the source of life. He created all things. He inspired the holy book known as the Bible (for the purpose of bringing man to his original purpose of creating the earth).

God is the most powerful, the wisest, with the most love, and the most just of all other persons or things that live or have ever lived, whether in heaven, or on earth.

Atheism in its basic form is the belief that there is no God. Their major attack is on Christianity and especially on the Bible. They promote the theory of evolution.

So here is the challenge, I want Nairaland atheists to come and prove my Belief in the God I described above and his word the Bible as false.


In logical order. One point at a time before we move to another. With evidence and logic. No insults.

The prove that ur belief is false it the fact that u can't prove that it's true

Sommydisaster:
I wasn't gonna quote you...... But you'd regret this word you wrote here

It won't exceed this month........ You'd beg you wish you knew God

This is not a prophesy, its a deed that's already done

LOL... If I am given 50naira for everytime some fake arse Christian says this to me, I would have free 500k in my account by now.

Let me advise u bro, stop embarrassing urself with this kind childish talk, thank me later for the advise.

It is the kind of rubbish God u guys worship that makes u think like this without actually seeing how foolish u sound. If I give ur God backhand slap, he will come and beg me for attempting to make me regret my statement.

Typicool8:
This indeed shows how blessed Nigeria and Africa is.

Do a mental calculations of the number of avoidable deaths u hear in naija everyday, and compatlre it with the number of deaths caused by the tornado... I think every region have their own share of issues

yanabasee:
We thanked God.... How is that your business and are you so pained?

You should relax.... And live your life.

How is it ur business when someone thanks God that boko haram bombs a church... He is just frustatrated that u are senseless that's all.

CAPSLOCKED:
YUP, I'M FRUSTRATED 24/7. I'M FRUSTRATED THAT YOU ALL ARE INSANE THERE'S NO HELP GOING YOUR WAY, AND I IMAGINE THE NEXT GENERATION COMING INTO EARTH TO INHERIT YOUR INSANITY.
A DEADLY TRAGEDY CLAIM LIVES AND YOU DOLTS THANK YOUR GOD AS USUAL, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO "YOU". WHAT KIND OF SELFISH, INCONSIDERATE PEOPLE ARE YOU?

Isn't it even more frustrating when an insane selfish being calls u frustrated... Imagine them implicating their God with their mindless statements.

25 people die somewhere and instead of sympathizing they are thanking a God who didn't save the dead for not allowing them to be affected... It's crazy.

Gadafii:
God too bless Nigeria walai


We are just unlucky with the crop of leaders we have, if not Nigeria would have been dreamland to many nations

See as u de implicate God... So u are saying God gave u a good weather and bad leaders? What kind of Godly agenda is that one

Basilpearck:
Thank God this weather has no where to be found in Nigeria, BT we have politicanado. God is great. My God Gave them this type of weather and gave us politicians who are worse than corona virus..

U are thanking God for ensuring such weather is not found here, but u are not asking why God chose to give them such weather... Una go put God for trouble one day

Sommydisaster:
No cap

To show everyone that God's the greatest....... And if you believe in him, you definitely gon' prevail

Meanwhile check out my signature and thread for beautiful offers on electronics

The only way ur God can show he prevails is by allowing people to die upandan... Are u worshiping a monster, even the devil will not do this. I bowooo

ReeLoaDead:
ranking ... 10/10

Now I get

Alkidam:
I think we are really lucky in this part of the world that most of this natural disaster doesnt happen here. imagine if we have it coupled with the artificial disaster like boko haram, bandits et al. then we are finished. never the less. may God provide succour to the victims.

Emmm, u are actually not lucky... Many of u citizens will gladly leave this shit hole of a luck to go survive is the tornado torn areas... Well it depends on how u see something as luck, people in other areas can still say they are lucky not to be in ur part of the world when they count what they have that u don't have.

mascot87:
Why can't that tonardo just take me

Sniper is very much affordable

englishmart:
The world should end before June 2020. I'm fully tired

Third mainland bridge will do the job

ReeLoaDead:
Naija own na human-made disaster: poverty, crime, Boko Haram ... (endless)


Guy: Are you from Tennessee?
Girl: Why?
Guy: Because you are the only ten I see

What is ten?

YorubaKinging:
As diseases, pestilences, tornadoes, earthquakes are battling the world
Still the city of God is safe
God is great

Which city biko

Maximus69:
You can continue crying for all i care!

OK... We can dance that way if u want. So while u think I am bitter, I think u are so so dumb and clueless and childish.

Whether you house, cloth or feed people around you, what really matters to INTELLIGENT peace makers is what your so called homeless paupers have in mind!

Yet u have nothing to offer. Just audio success.

For your information, majority of the terrorists around you have what they're doing not on their faces but IN THEIR Hearts!

So? Why have u not changed their hearts.

So get it straight into your empty skull that the 9,000,000 members of Jehovah's Witnesses includes many homeless paupers, violent, drug addicts and many more that have become responsible citizens after we've filled their hearts with our message of PEACE, they're now zealously preaching and teaching in their respective neighborhood to reach THE HEARTS of others with the same message of PEACE!

It also includes pedophile, pretenders and dumb people like u

Maximus69:
I'll pick one statement that shows you are not sincere with yourself!

With the bolded in blue, can you now see the difference between intelligent approach and stupid ones to PEACE MAKING?

Well despite the difference in culture, up bringing, geographical locations and social status, a group have successfully unite about 9,000,000 people from all over the world, each one has vowed never to raise a weapon again for any reason whatsoever.

Not by force, not by threat with weapons and not after killing some to intimidate the survivors to surrender.

So i'm saying THE GROUP USING SUCH AN APPROACH SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND THEIR TECHNIQUE AS THE BEST!

If you've gotten a better idea present it or know now that you're not for PEACE, because there is no other approach that's more effective, intelligent and certain for a secure lasting solution! You can't kill some people to intimidate their families into accepting your proposal assuming that the remaining will accept your proposal for good!

No other approach has been that successful, that's my point!

The only reason why you are so obstinate is because the group doing this wonderful work is giving the credit to an all intelligent unseen being that you so much detest with all your heart, so you're bitter about their success!

For the sake of this discussion u have to remain sane and stop throwing tantrums by throwing accusations and saying things that are not true of me.

First I am not bitter about any body's success. Second I am yet to see JW success in achieving peace.

That being said... I believe there are more than 50 million people who love peace all over the world. I have seen many JWs who pretend to love peace but are actually troublesome. I have seen good JWs.

Quoting 9million peaceful people all over the world with no significant effect of the peacefulness all around me is meaningless.
Like I told u, there are peaceful groups whose duty is to go into the streets, pick up hoodlums who have drawn themselves into drugs and rehabilitate them for months at their own cost.
Peaceful people have always been existent and will always exist and claiming JW are the most peaceful people on earth is both childish and ignorant.

All I see is people carrying bags, knocking on peoples doors and selling mythical wishful stories. U disassociate ur selves from the world expecting the day of the lord and u call it peace.
Go out there, pickup the homeless and feed them, risk ur lives, go to war torn areas and help the homeless, feed the poor around u, the widows, orphans... House them, feed them and cloth them, stop preaching false fairy tales to them and calling it peace.

Maximus69:
You yourself said "we can come together to subscribe to PEACE MAKING by offering ourselves as volunteers on this profitable mission"

Nobody forced you to say that.

And this means one killing himself

What i don't understand now is how can we do what you suggested if we don't agree on the same thing?

Some will always dance to a peaceful idea, if not most, but all will never agree because people are different. That's the reality. With some agreeing, u can achieve something not everything.

Perhaps you're trying to say "it won't work because frank317 will never allow it to work", saying something good will not work because bad people will always be here is like saying "nothing good can be possible since we will always have bad people"

The question is which side are you?

And are you optimistic about virtue?

Because I said all will never agree to a peaceful quest does not mean I will never agree to a peaceful quest. After all I have already told u I am doing my bit, why are u dragging us back again.
There will always be a struggle between people. This is because people's expectations of things will always be different because of out difference in culture, up bringing and biological disposition.
Stop making this about me and for once allow ur self to reason it out from the perspective of the whole world. Just the fact that people have different approach to peace can even lead to unexpected conflict. It's not about me or what I want it's just the way the world is. JW have been around for ages why haven't they converted on country at least. U can only do ur best but not get a 100percent result.

Maximus69:
My atheist friend, don't kill yourself like your brothers often do after they've lived frustrated lives of faithlessness!

I can see u have decided to resort to childish banter. Am I supposed to respond to u that I will not kill myself? I really don't know what this means.

All i'm saying is "if all the religions around you are practicing what Jehovah's Witnesses believe today, no one will force anyone to do anything, you either remain in the family of faith or go about like a fugitive. There will be no need of weapons and wars"

And I am saying that this is a foolish dream. It is not possible to have everyone practice JW... I thought we have already gone through this. U can live ur life on "if". Face the reality on ground.

So calm down and use your brains, after all that's what your faculty teaches, stop being obstinate about this!

I don't even know what u are on about... How does this respond to my post?

Maximus69:
(1)When talking about PEACE as in real PEACE, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT GOD, that's why those you're thinking are MAKING PEACE still goes about using FORCE, WEAPONS and having countless records of CASUALTIES!

How do u keep peace with God? U claim there can never be peace without God and u are asking me, a Godless person to join u in keeping peace. Why haven't u achieved peace with this ur God? And where did I tell u keeping peace requires force and weapons. Non governmental bodies I reffered to as keeping peace are only providing aids food and shelter for refugees... What have u and ur God that are the the world best peace keepers done for people in need?

(2) Jehovah's Witnesses have a commander, the order form our commander is "if friends of peace are found in any community, we should stay there (take up residence in their midst) but if not we should shake off the dust of our feet and let our PEACE return to us" {Matthew 10:11-13} friends of peace aren't living in those places you mentioned, that's why they've been battling to keep to one religion, but now that the table has turned against them, you can't expect us to start rushing there to establish what they resisted in the first place "PEACE"!

People are going beyond their bothers to help out in times of need. U and ur commander just relax in ur comfort zone and do ur thing... Yet u are the world best peace keepers. Enjoy ur delusion.

(3)Your grievances meant nothing to me, if you are honest and sincere, point to any group you know that's keeping the PEACE in the real sense:- without FORCE, WEAPONS nor records of CASUALTIES!

Ever heard of society for family and health? Cyril foundation? There are so many foundation that takes care of children on the streets, violence against women and children. Did u get the story of the German lady who picked up a child labeled a witch in akwaibom and changed his life? What had all these got to do with weapon?

(4)Let everyone feel your bit just as Jehovah's Witnesses have done in all the places we're operating, we have a record of about 9,000,000 prospective weapon carriers in all the continents that have surrendered wholeheartedly due to the work we are doing!

Everyone can't feel my bit just as not everyone is feeling ur bit.

(5) Well perhaps you need someone to remind you that Russia is furiously fighting against Jehovah's Witnesses today because, they're secretly recruiting soldiers against the US but their most honest, loyal and faithful countrymen are warmly embracing PEACE due to the works of Jehovah's Witnesses!

So what has JW Got to do with Russian soldier... U guys have become a nuisance in the society carrying ur wretched bags and preaching fairy tales without contributing anything to the growth of the society, why will Russian Government not kick ur wasteful ass out?

Maximus69:
When majority agree to do the needful so that we can have peace in our society, what most human society does is keep the minority who aren't friends of peace in a state of inactivity within our neighborhood, that's why there are Prisons.

Of course. At least u agree that humans make the rules and not God.

JWs are the one and only group that's ACTIVELY doing this 24/7 throughout the earth, and in every human society they're known for their peace keeping message!

This is not true... We can't keep on repeating ourselves here. JW does not have presence in maidugiri or Syria. But there are some non governmental bodies in this area that are doing this bit to keep peace or help out the best way they can.

Of course you want us to continue doing the fine job, but you're now sounding as if you're no more ready for the sacrifice that you once said "we should be prepared to offer"

Like I said keep up the good work. Stop claiming monopoly of good work.... This is my greiviance with u in this area.

Can you also invite other peace lovers to join in the movement and continue sharing encouraging words amongst yourselves? Because that's what makes Jehovah's Witnesses SPECIAL. We can't achieve success in any mission without dedication!

Stop sounding like u are losing the battle. Am doing my bit and not asking u for help.

The reason why i said we should keep my God out of this is to see how far you and those you're vouching for as lovers of PEACE can go with the mission without any GOD (higher intelligent being) involved!

People have gone further than u without the God believe and even u who believe in God have not really been effective despite being around for aong time.

Maximus69:
You said if Maximus69 and frank317 should agree meaning we have put our differences behind to make it work, so what makes you think it's impossible to carry others along after all you and i are different persons?

That's exactly what I am saying. Some people will have similarities in ideas, some will insist on the own way... Everybidy will never accept to the same idea. Never.

Of course Jehovah's Witnesses do default and sometimes break the law but they're ever ready for dialogue to resolve issues NOT using force or weapons!

Same thing with so many people and groups around the world. Why are then acting as if JWs are special.

Do you think what you and i agreed to do will be that easy so that one could just say "i can't talk much"? yet we don't want to use force or weapons on our fellow man to get them involved in the process of PEACE Making!

Cool... Peace making is good.. Good luck in ur effort and I am not asking u to stop.

So how many people have you contacted in your neighborhood? Because i do go to visit people in my neighborhood UNINVITED twice a week and some have given me audience to the point that we've become friends sharing thoughts about how we can MAKE PEACE reign in our society. I remember you once said "if we truly want to make it work, we should be ready to make sacrifices" please can you live by your own words?

I do my bit.

As for the God i worship, i've told you to keep him aside for now as we've agreed to do something to make our world a better place for you and me. So let's talk about our plan since you and i LOVE peace!

Well if we have to keep God aside u should have said it all these while instead of calling atheists... The reason why I am having this interaction with u is because u are a God believer and I am not.
Seeking peace is what humans do and does not have anything to do with God. This is my point and if we are in agreement then my work is done.

Maximus69:
(1) The will continue to exist to continue dancing with who?

Dancing with their chickens

(2)What happens if you and i decides to share what we have equally, see each child born as the responsibility of one and all, do you still think each and everyone will still think of populating the earth to raise more paupers for uncertainty?

If u and I decide to do that the world will be peaceful. But chairman that ain't gonna happen in a world of people with so much differences, different upbringing, different biological disposition and scare means of survival. This is why we have the law and police...

(3)I love this one! Because that's exactly what Jehovah's Witnesses are doing globally, and the result is almost 9,000,000 individuals around the world have decided never to raise weapons again for any reason whatsoever!

Ya right.. Like I have never see JWs who default and break the law. Smh

(4)What have you been doing personally in this respect (since you don't believe in my sky daddy)?

Fortunately I am one of those who love peace and progress. I help people around me the best way I can... Oga, I can't talk much, I do my bit.

(5)If you honestly think there will be a difference, so what's your own contribution?

I try my best bro.... Because I like peace too. This all I can tell u.

This is not about me... It's about the fact that I don't think the God u worship is real.

Maximus69:
(1)Bad people will always exist to continue doing what?

They exist to continue dancing.. Smh

(2)The world became a tough place due to what?

Due to scarce means of suvival. As population increases there is more struggle for the means of survival.

(3) Good people who want peace will always exist and what should they be doing to make peace?

They should be doing good things and advocating for peace the best way they can.

I thought you yourself said we can set rules within ourselves and let go of some things to ensue peace?

Of course... So?

If you and i come together to do this, will there be any difference or not?

Yes, there Will be differece.

So you don't even believe (trust) in your own concept?

Walahi Talahi ATHEISM is hopelessness!

What have guys been arguing for all these while?

I don't go about believing in fairy tales. Since u that is not hopeless have been believing, what have u achieved.
I am telling u the reality on ground and u are talking about believe.

For instance,

Our roads here in Nigeria are unkept, our drainage filled with gabbage, electricity is epileptic, health sector incapacitated, security is zero. So because we have good and bad people in our society, all hope to improve is lost shey?

We can only do our best my brother... The society can actually be better... U are actually drifting away from my point.

I don't just get it, is there anything called brain in the head of these people claiming ATHEISTS at all?

Atheist don't believe in the existence of God... Mr brain pls prove this God that u so much believe in or accept that u just believe in fairy tales.