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Kobojunkie:
. You have never used a dictionary or a thesaurus in your life, have you? 😏

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/fail

Below are the synonyms your link lead to. I don't see any cease, still, pass away, disappear

"LOVE NEVER FAILS" is not same as "LOVE NEVER ENDS"!!!

Kobojunkie:
So, it is no longer just the case that your deity knows what I will do, but that he is also making me do the things that I do? Just look at how many leaps you have to take to force a logical interpretation on this idea that should otherwise not even be considered a thing. 🙄🙄

It is no longer that I know that the neighbor's dog is going to bite the mailman, but that I am also responsible for the neighbor's dog biting the mailman. Oi vey! 😩😩😩

Can't you see that one implies the other? The ONLY way you can be 100% certain what will happen is if the characters don't have free will because if they did, a decision by any random one of them can lead to a totally different outcome than the one you had planned

Kobojunkie:
NIV is no different from the others. The same information recorded in the others is also recorded here.
Fails also in this case implies ceasing, stiling, passing away, disappearing. Basically, not eternal. So, again, why reject what is reported to assert an entirely different message?

The opposite of "fail" is "succeed". Fail is NOT a synonym for cease, still, pass away, disappear, etc. "Love never fails" is NOT same as "Love never ends" or "Love never passes away"

Kobojunkie:
This statement does not answer any of my questions to you nor does it make any sense. I mean, so what if the things I do are unfolding as they are expected to unfold? In what way does that take away from the fact that the decisions are mine each time? How does the first imply the conclusion in bold?

If I know that the neighbor's dog is going to bite the mailman coming down the street once he reaches the gate, and it happens, how does that all become dependent on my will and not on the dog's own will?

You know, I can't believe you're arguing this. Say you're writing a book, you have the plot set out from beginning to end. Now, as you are writing the book you come to a place where a character, John, could go left or right, and you make John decide to go right because that's what's appropriate to the end you already ploted. Please, how does John have free will??

Kobojunkie:
Wrong!

The translation isn't the problem since all of them detail the particular meaning to be applied as far as the term used. In the following translations, we see included references to other words(synonyms) explaining the particular meaning to be applied to that describing Love.
1599 Geneva Bible
...King James Version
So, the question remains, why do you blatantly reject the information presented in the context?

Please see NIV version below which is what most people use. Can you show us anywhere else in the Bible it says something never fails like it says it here?

Kobojunkie:
Let's assume that is the case with your deity, so what? What if he already knows what I will do? Does it change the fact that I will be the one choosing to do it? Does it change the fact that the particular choice will be made by me only when it presents itself — not before or afterwards? I don't follow this illogical reasoning you pretend here.

Well, if God or anybody already knows what you'll do that means things are unfolding as they are meant to unfold - they are not dependent on your will

Kobojunkie:
The book has it that other things are equally eternal/never-ending/unfailing/without end.

2. In verses 8 through 10, he explained that the love he describes is eternal—it has no end, i.e, it does not fail. You keep refusing to read the passage right in front of you to comprehend his meaning. why? What is the purpose of quoting an idea only to keep inserting your own interpretation against that which is clearly depicted?

Ok, I see the problem - your particular translation has it as as "Love never ends", but all other translations have it as "Love never fails"

Kobojunkie:
✓ Wrong! This isn't the only thing that never fails in the you pretend to quote from, rather this claim is of your private interpretation. The one whom you pretend to quote instead said that of all the gifts, only love will not fail.

2. Given that Paul's explanation is that since love is eternal in orientation--- neverending ---then one can easily see how it cannot fail/end.

1. What else does the Bible say never fails?

2. Where does Paul say love is eternal and never-ending?

Kobojunkie:
Are you really asking me if the decision to click and respond, or not,to these questions are truly mine?

Well, thing is, just as in the clip, God, or even a seer, already knows if you will click or not. So where does that leave things

Am l a Yahoo boy?

But 15? No, that just too much. Even 20 is way too small but can be managed. But 15? No na, come on

Love NEVER fails
(1 Corinthians 13:8}

This is the ONLY thing that the Bible says NEVER fails.
Amazing and worth contemplating.
Does love really never fails?

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Kobojunkie:
Free will is an idea that was created of religion, with no usefulness to those of us outside of religious circles.

2. I know why I make the choices that I make, and the reason is simple. Because those choices are available to me and aligned with the direction or trajectory in which my life was headed, as well as the need/want I had at the point when they were each made.

But how are you sure it is YOU making the choices?

thatigboman:
US men like physical games. Jam body, power for power, strength to strength games like american football and basketball, ice hickey etc.
They like short games, due to the physicality, that they can call time out at any time, take break, drink beer, ease themselves and come back.. Football bores them, requires technique and intellect skills more than physicality. And u have to sit and watch ut for 45 minutes before break. They tried introducing coaches calling time out in football, it didn't work. The only one FIFA allowed was water break if the weather is too hot

Not true AT ALL. Soccer requires far less intellect and strategy than American football and more physical than baseball, tennis, basketball, and far less boring than baseball. But more importantly, what explains why kids in the hoods don't play it on the streets like in other countries? Unlike other sports it requires ZERO equipments. All you need is something that can serve as ball and 4 random objects to mark the goal posts, That's all

Obapluto:
which thing sir



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This thing below.
Which was the exact moment tribalism was introduced into Nigerian politics. Believe it or not, before then Nigerians voted strictly party, not tribe

Remember Yorubas also voted Zik as premier of the West until Awo did his thing durring the night

How true is this 30-seconds clip vis-a-vis free will?
Will we ever know?

https://youtube.com/shorts/PLclzmowpHU?si=ft6EVAxkOGczbsqY


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Kobojunkie:
Well, He is telling you that this thing is love and he differentiates it from other forms or ideas that go by the same by stating its qualities. So? Is that not a definition of what he means by love?

I am reminded here of the of Plato's Symposium where in defining love, the many individuals who are recorded listed it's many characteristics, something Socrates pointed out was not entirely invalid to do.

I see your point, I'm just saying something like love cannot be defined by such a list because it is inexhaustible - there are elements of love that cannot be so listed.

Anyway, what's your view on this below?

abbey621:
Wetin concern USA with Nigeria? Even as a toddler in Nigeria, you're indoctrinated into soccer male or female, from watching to actual participation yet less than 20% of all females in 9ja actually plays or played soccer.

Next, can you mention the non lucrative sport that is not dominated by women in the USA? Is it gymnastic? Athletics?

That's the question - why couldn't it have been so in the US? Because soccer doesn't require any special equipments. Ghetto kids could be playing it. It is a REAL mystery. No other sports in US is reserved for women like soccer. It is as if they don't see it as a masculine sport for some mysterious reason!

Commentor:
But quaffed a lot of Big Macs.

😅 I wonder how strong he'll be if he also avoided fast food

Peterobiisathie:
Please don't make racist and tribalistic comments on this section

Like saying you know he must be from a certain tribe with gb in it's name

datola:
Trump, 79, underwent an exam after recent photos showed the president with swollen ankles....

Trump is 79 and still very sharp and smart!

I think it is because he avoided ALCOHOL

abbey621:
How does that contradict what I just said, even with the initial government funding it is still not a lucrative sport for Americans unlike basketball and American football. The men will never forego these sports for soccer lai lai!

So question I asked you is, why are other non-lucrative sports NOT also women-only sports? Why is soccer not a women's sport in Nigeria?

Kobojunkie:
Why can't listing the qualities of a thing be construed as defining the thing?

Well because a thing is what it is in itself, while qualities are what it is in relation to how people see it. Example, love is a FEELING of total good will towards something, as opposed to listing "love is kind, etc"

abbey621:
I just explained it to you, men sport has many better and lucrative options while women sport the option is very limited. Even the most popular women sport which is gymnastic, na peanuts dem dey earn.

How does this explain it? It doesn't. Why are other sports not girls' sports? googled it as seen below

Kobojunkie:
. If you again, focus your attention on the statements made by Paul, the Jewish Israelite, you will gather that he was not referencing a who, but a what.

In verse 3, he compares various acts of endearment that we may produce and asserts that they are nothing to what would result from his having this love he refers to, implying that this love results in action that does not compare to the typical ideas we are used to.

But Kobojunkie cannot cause action in you that is different from that which is your will. Paul is saying that this love, which he is required to have, causes an action that embodies the listed attributes. He compares this love to acts and to things, whats and not whos.

I get your point, but what I'm saying though is, if someone were to ask you what is love (Paul's love), how would you respond? Listing the qualities of a thing is not same as saying what the thing is

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Unfortunate that after a father educates a child the child grows up to have the guts to think the father did it because he wanted to leech on him in old age. Have you ever spoken to an orphan? Do you even know the oppression, exploitation and neglect they live with? If your parent died early leaving you as a child with no parents, you think random people will take care of you so you can pay them back when they are old. What kind of bitterness will make anyone to regard their parents as liabilities? Kai!

You miss the point!!! Don’t COUNT ON your children being wealthy enough to financially take of you. They'd definitely take of their own children and family just as you took care of yours (which included the child)

Kobojunkie:
Well, in the world we live in today, we see that people do giveaways— even politicians would claim to give away all they have out of love for their constituents. And others claim to sacrifice their lives for the sake of others. What Paul, the Jewish Israelite, is saying is that those acts in and of themselves do not embody the sort of love he is referring to. Or I could say, the act he describes as love goes beyond those ideas. And then in the verses that follow — verses 4 through 10 — he goes on to describe the qualities of the kind of love he speaks of.

In beginning in verse 8, he adds that the kind of love he speaks of never ends/fails, unlike the benefits of doing giveaways or dying for a cause or person in this world... implying it is eternal in origins, orientation, and benefits.

Ok, I see what you're saying but that still does not tell us what love is.
Let's say someone asks, "Who is Kobojunkie?" and someone answers him, "Kobojunkie is kind, patient, does not keep grudges, etc". That still does not tell us who he is

Racoon:
Meanwhile, they will always say don't speak ill of the dead? This is the sort of statement that encourages the living to live irresponsibly, thinking that the havoc they wreak will alive will not be spoken of once they are gone.The evil that men do lives after them.

The death of Muhammadu Buhari cannot erase or alter the fact that he monumentally destroyed Nigeria, and while in office, he did the opposite of his campaign rhetoric.

The same way some of the so-called democrats of yesterday, who claimed they fought for democracy in Nigeria are ruthlessly fighting and destroying the same democracy today

Even worse, when he was first in power with Idiagbon, they executed so many people for flimsy reasons

Kobojunkie:
Paul, the Jewish Israelite, explained it in verse 3 of the passage (made bold in red)that it is an action which he deems required of him. Love is an action he deems necessary for him to gain something instead of nothing.

Thank you but I don't know how this below defines love nor clarifies how it never fails:

3 I may give away everything I have to help others, and I may even give my body as an offering to be burned. But I gain nothing by doing all this if I don’t have love.

abbey621:
Men have better sport to play, American players make more money in American football or basketball than they do in soccer. It's all about sponsors and the amount generated. In America, Messi or CR7 will never be as popular as Michael Jordan or Lebron

So WHY is it only women traditionally play soccer in US and they usually beat the whole world?

Great100000:
Source: https://www.dictionary.com/e/soccer-or-footballs

My question is, why is it that it is girls that traditionally play it in US?

ogecrown:
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