Gabrielshow24: This is a question we have thrashed out extensively in a different thread. Max and his brother, Janosky, were refuted 😅 both with logic and scripture!
Max, by the way, suffers from selective am-nes-ia 👀. Don't take his theatrics to heart, we have become use to it —I must say it's really entertaining and amusing especially when it's coming from a self acclaimed "Elder" 😅.
Dtruthspeaker, tctrills should still have the link to the thread🤔. I think they were three threads, with discussions simultaneously going on about this. From this topic so many offshoots were formed, at some point Janosky was forced to define trees as angels😅.
It was really humorous and engaging. Till now the elder, Janosky, has failed to answer the question: whether or not God is able to do something by himself. It's a tricky question 👀 —any response he gives puts his entire thesis in a dilemma 😅!
If they have they will refer it to you, you can check it out. I still remember Max, creating the Primus conventus 😂 theory to explain how come they were other chief princes 😁—it's a wonderful theory 👀, it enlarges the heart 😂😂😂!
MaxIndhouse, you and your buddy, as you can see from screenshots above, you can’t know better than some 300 bishops who spent their whole lives going through the Bible with a fine tooth comb!❣️
FxMasterz: No need to argue with that dude. His head is filled with a lot of conspiracy theories and so much unsubstantiated ideologies. He himself cannot tell you what he practices. He's neither Christian nor Muslim nor traditionalist - just floating here and there on the sea of religious fantasy. I pray that God will open his eyes and show him salvation.
😅The really funny thing is that there is NOT a single legitimate source or basis, just something out of thin air. The HISTORY is all over the internet - anybody too lazy to google, see it below!💕
Here are more of my posts. Which are not "true or sensible"?
FreeIgboho: If only JW were as you portray it on Nairaland I'd become a JW myself - who doesn't like a good thing. If only I didn't know real life JW's. If only I didn't know people who have left JW. If only internet were not full of testimonies of people who have left JW. My own take is, if it works for you, stick to it! But stop implying it's in any way perfect and stop arguing obvious things like that "Jehovah" is not an erroneously made-up name and not at all the name of the Most High!
FreeIgboho: Well, they lied to you - they're NOT Jesus’s real brothers. You're in JW, a mild cult, and you're talking of authority. You haven't seen serious Christian cults where they order members to sell everything they own and go about preaching with only a backpack - exactly as Jesus instructed!
FreeIgboho: That's exactly what I'm doing agreeing with you. Please how do you spin this below
John 14:9 New International Version Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
FreeIgboho: My GOOD friend, the only thing in all this that requires explanation is his saying that only the Father is good - because we all know people who are good including Jesus himself, and Jesus cannot lie!
DeepSight: You are right: there was never a debate between Mithraism and Christianity at the Council of Nicea, the chief purpose was to resolve the Arian Heresy. So sonmvayina is fantasizing here.
Once in a blue moon you actually can say something true or sensible but then again even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Wonders shall never end. I didn't figure you as someone who'd agree with something reasonable. You truly surprised me! Wow! Just wow!!
Meanwhile, folks, which of these posts of mine below are not "true or sensible"?
FreeIgboho: This is the definition of convoluted. What the heck are you talking about? There can't be free will if predestination exists for everything. Full stop, end of story. Furthermore, you'll never know if you have free will because you're not sure where your thoughts actually come from!
FreeIgboho: So then use your own commonsense. Between where you were born, to whom, circumstances and experiences of your growing up, the type of brain and personality you were given, where then is the space for freewill? Add to that, you don't know where your thoughts come from, and it has been SCIENTIFICALLY proven that your decision is already in your brain before you are consciously aware of having made a decision!
FreeIgboho: You are the one talking nonsense. Jesus (God incarnate) was with his closest friends that he trusted and told them exactly who he was - God the Son of God, that if you see him you've seen God. But you choose to go by what he cryptically said amongst people bent on killing him before the appointed time, for claiming to be who he was - God!
FreeIgboho: I also agree with you that what "good" means here as Jesus used it pertaining to God, is different from everyday meaning of "good". I also agree with Jesus when he said he's one with God and when you see him you've seen God.
sonmvayina: Constantine wanted a single religion for his empire. The first order of business for the delegates at Nicaea was to choose between Mithraism and Christianity (the worship of serapis) . They voted to go with Christianity. Then and there they formulated the Nicaean creed. Constantine asked Eusebius to prepare a uniform document from the scriptures they have scattered across the empire. He was the one who combine the different stories into one uniform document. Jesus in the gospel is a composite of various figures. The history of the church was written by Eusebius the master forger.
Folks ghis is NOT true AT ALL!!! Nicea is recorded HISTORY, recorded by many participating bishops. Produce ONE legitimate source that supports what you say. You can't. The bishops (including a representative of the pope) debated over several days and in the end voted between "Jesus is God" and "Jesus is NOT God" (Arianism). Constantine just wanted them to come to a consensus. He didn't interfere and didn't care which way they voted
Commentor: He's an embarrassment to all US citizens and past presidents.
But what is wrong with "Dear Mr Japan". He's just jokingly making a point. Like, "Dear Mr Nigeria, you must eradicate corruption" Media likes making a big deal out of NOTHIN6! And people like you will just follow like mumu
Commentor: I'm sure you also think his question to the Liberian president was without prejudice.
Of course it wasn't AT ALL!!! Not AT ALL! Quite the opposite. Here's the clip. Watch it yourself - it is only 1½ minutes long. But they know most people won't watch it.
MaxInDHouse: They told you a lie you swallowed it hook line and sinker but you see proofs that only that name is opening doors to the achievements of what God promised in the Bible yet you're stubbornly hitting your head on the brick. Who are those people that says Jehovah is a wrong name? You keep arguing blindly. What have they achieved with their translations? You said it doesn't matter. But you want those who are seeing the fine works of faith in JEHOVAH'S name to abandon the name for what faithless people say shey?
Well i've told you from the beginning of this thread: I only engaged you because you mentioned my name at least you have seen now that you don't have what it takes to convince a JW against what we believe. You're just arguing now like someone trolling you've lost it completely.
Next time don't mention my name if you are not ready to accept what Jesus taught.
Thanks for your time!
I forgot how touchy you folks can be about the c-word. I totally forgot. But I honestly don't see the big deal. Churches become cult-like NOT out of any bad intent but for fear they'd keep losing members and disappear. All Churches have that fear. It takes enormous faith to NOT act based on that fear
MaxInDHouse: You are dishonest so Jesus' prophecy regarding accusers of faithful servants of God matches you perfectly:
“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25
So whether you call them CULT or SATAN they have performed beyond expectations! Zechariah 8:23
Well, JW is a cult. A mild cult but still a cult. Which is NOT necessarily all bad because as you pointed out, it forces members to toe certain lines or be disfellowshiped and shunned
MaxInDHouse: Surely you no regard for Jesus you are just walking aimlessly following unbelievers yet arrogantly arguing blindly! Jesus said: "This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines." Matthew 15:8-9 The name that's PERFORMING you want to condemn because of what faithless people who have no reputation as far as God's promises is concerned says.
I'm sorry for you!
What has any of this to do with the FACT Jehovah is a fake erroneously made-up name that's not the name of God at all?
So what authority did Jesus gave Peter and his fellow apostles? To order members to go and kill or get killed?
Well the Governing Body issues the order and we believe they are Jesus' real brothers because that's exactly what he commanded {Matthew 5:43-48} and ordered them to TEACH us! Matthew 28:19-20
So if your so called Pope or Pastors can't convince their followers to obey what Christ commanded then what authority do they have to argue against the name of the God who gave His own ministers AUTHORITY over millions of people from different countries throughout the world? Luke 12:32; Matthew 16:19
Well, they lied to you - they're NOT Jesus’s real brothers. You're in JW, a mild cult, and you're talking of authority. You haven't seen serious Christian cults where they order members to sell everything they own and go about preaching with only a backpack - exactly as Jesus instructed!
MaxInDHouse: JEHOVAH is the God of Jehovah's Witnesses so the name of their God appears more than 7,000 times in their Bible and they are using it to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves, erase the use of weapons in the hearts of adherents, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
Please what has your I AM achieved among it's worshipers who are claiming the name JEHOVAH is fake?
Even if it appears a million times it is still NOT the name of God at all. It is a mistakenly made-up name by people who didn't understand.
You still haven't shown me anything JW invented, yet they smugly enjoy everything while pontificating!
Why not humble yourself and learn from God's people?
Please do you know the meaning of that word: "AUTHORITY"
Well let me enlighten once again.
Can Pope or Oyedepo, or Oyakhilome or Adeboye order members of their church not to raise weapons against their fellow believers in other lands so power drunk rulers like Zelensky (Ukraine) and Putin (Russia) may humbly accept that God's servants have inculcated the love of Christ in the minds of their followers ?
Or do you think if the authority is given to you as overseer of members of the house of faith in Christ Jesus you would fold your arms while believers under your authority are fighting and killing themselves?
Just a word from the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses and no JW will raise a weapon not only against their fellow worshipers o but not even against their unbelieving neighbors!
That's what AUTHORITY means! Matthew 16:19; Luke 12:32
You've posted some nonsensical stuff here but this one is about the most nonsensical. Conscientious objection is one of the founding doctrines of JW (Just like some other organizations, example, Nation of Islam) so how can anybody order it?? It's like saying the Pope ordered his members to be Catholic! If you said they ordered JW to go to war and they did, that'd be different. That's what AUTHORITY means
sonmvayina please explain how Romans would create a God that destroyed all their cherished gods and reduced their god-emperor to a common sinner needing forgiveness and salvation
Dtruthspeaker: Prediction/predestination are all things that belong only to the person who dared to predict an event whether glory or disgrace.
It does not concern you the subject as you will not even know what was predicted about you, hence you will be doing in your freewill anything that you want. So you going to Lagos or Ore or Ughelli is entirely up to the exercise of your regular freewill, exactly as you picking up the phone to respond or not respond.
So, predestination does not concern you the subject. The only people interested in the prediction/predestination are 2 groups
1) the person who made the prediction and
2) the person/people who those who heard it who are also standing guard to see and ensure that the person who made the prediction does not do anything to make his prediction come to pass.
And so no one cares about predestination since they would never know about what the prediction is so everyone is living their lives using their freewill like the girl whose freewill was to kill the lecturer
This is the definition of convoluted. What the heck are you talking about? There can't be free will if predestination exists for everything. Full stop, end of story. Furthermore, you'll never know if you have free will because you're not sure where your thoughts actually come from!
sonmvayina: Jesus is not God. Jesus is a creation of the Roman empire/çatholic Church on the order of emperor Constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire. God is the universal divine consciousness. Not a man or a human being. People talk about the Christ consciousness, I really don't know what it means.
One No vote. Where are the yes votes? Stand up for your God
MaxInDHouse: Can you mention one group at least you know that Jehovah's Witnesses printed their own Bible and use it globally so let me know one church that's responsible for any of those Bibles belonging to your I AM worshipers!
MaxInDHouse: You are not consistent with your arguments! What i'm saying is only Jehovah's Witnesses have AUTHORITY globally over their members those arguing against the name JEHOVAH can you point to the group over which they have authority? Please do i will like to check something!
Ok, so the Pope does not have authority, neither does Oyakhilome or the Winners and Redeemed guys!😂🥰
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