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MaxInDHouse:
You don't even know the meaning of that word "AUTHORITY"

Let me enlighten you a bit!

Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses claims that Jesus is with them and using them to direct his disciples globally this is just their claim but the evidence is everywhere as in all countries, races, tribes, ethnic groups, languages and tongues this little group of less than 12 old men are in control of millions of people having AUTHORITY over them just as Jesus foretold:

“Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom." Luke 12:32

He even warned us that they are his brothers! Matthew 25:34-46

And when Peter asked him what will be their gain for following Jesus {Matthew 19:27} Jesus told them that they will have families throughout the earth! Mark 10:28-30

Over these large global family of peace loving worshipers Jesus appointed them as overseers or AUTHORITY! Matthew 16:19

That's why i keep asking you:

Who are these people you are quoting and what is the proof that they have God's backing?

Now you yourself mentioned the word "AUTHORITY"
Can you present those over whom they are in control as AUTHORITIES?

If only JW were as you portray it on Nairaland I'd become a JW myself - who doesn't like a good thing. If only I didn't know real life JW's. If only I didn't know people who have left JW. If only internet were not full of testimonies of people who have left JW.
My own take is, if it works for you, stick to it! I know a lady who has tried all sorts of Churches and finally decided the best church for her is the Roman Catholic Church. She's always in church - she loves their rituals, holy water, confessions to priests, asking saints to pray for you, the holy mother, praying the rosary. It all soothes her soul and quiets her demons.
So if JW works for you definitely stick to it, but stop implying it's in any way perfect and stop arguing obvious things like that "Jehovah" is not an erroneously made-up name and not at all the name of the most high!

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Isaiah 9:6 
For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

John 8
58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I AM!” 59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him..

Exodus 3:14
God revealed his name to Moses stating, "I AM WHO I AM". This is often translated as "I AM" or "Yahweh". God instructed Moses to tell the Israelites, "I AM sent me to you".

John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

John 14:9
“Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Mathew 16
16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

John 20:28
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

John 10:33
"We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God,"

Mark 14
Again the high priest asked him, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?”
62 “I am,” said Jesus...
63 The high priest tore his clothes. “Why do we need any more witnesses?”
(Here again Jesus uses the divine "I am"}

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MaxInDHouse:
We are waiting to see what becomes of them and their I AM!

You don't have to wait. They're already blessed from right here and you're smugly enjoying their blessings with them without contributing anything.

"I AM" simply means "Yah Weh"

MaxInDHouse:
Says you!

Says all these authorities below. Where are your own authorities?

MaxInDHouse:
Let whatever they believe help them do God's will nah! Matthew 7:21-23

They believe they have to start with the name first
If you get that wrong it's downhill from there

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah never cry for help!

Of course not, no one is named Jehovah

MaxInDHouse:
I asked you why is Jesus crying with tears while praying and who was he praying to? Hebrews 5:7

How does that preclude him from being deity??
Remember, he was also fully human

MaxInDHouse:
Let them prove they are worshipers of the true God who promised to unite His worshipers throughout the earth {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} God's Son prayed so they will all have the same line of thought just as he has with his father {John 17:22} and peace will reign among them globally as witnesses of the Prince of Peace! Act 1:8

You mean His Son Michael or Moses. No they don't believe that. They just think Jehovah is a name created in error so they stick to Yaweh

MaxInDHouse:
So stick to what Jesus said and don't add or subtract if you agree with me that that's what Jesus meant.
As for being one with God Jesus means he is in agreement with his father so if you have seen him whatever he teaches is the same thing his father would have taught if He's here in person!

That's exactly what I'm doing agreeing with you.
Please how do you spin this below

John 14:9
New International Version
Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

MaxInDHouse:
The spirit of our God (Jehovah) helps His children to make a wise decision as they search the scriptures so as to reach a unanimous decision.
Now tell me the people you are calling are they believers in the same God?

No, not same God. They believe in Yaweh. They don't know who is Jehovah, an erroneous name.
But your people end up voting. So, pleatell, why do you hate voting so much

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever Jesus said is OK for me did you agree with Jesus that no one is good except God?

I also agree with you that what "good" means here as Jesus used it pertaining to God, is different from everyday meaning of "good".
I also agree with Jesus when he said he's one with God and when you see him you've seen God.

MaxInDHouse:
People having the same line of thought differs from people with different ideas about God!

Answer the question, how do your leaders reach consensus since you have a phobia about voting?

MaxInDHouse:
People having the same line of thought regarding standards or people who can't conclude on what righteousness means?

Meaning what??
You were asked how come JW leaders vote to reach a consensus. If not, tell us how they reach it

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus came for sinners so ask him why he prefer sinners to righteous ones! Matthew 9:13

Ok, so sinfulness is good and sinlessness is bad. Ok o.
All so you can latch onto what Jesus cryptically said amongst enemies, when he already clearly told his friends who he was

MaxInDHouse:
You called people to vote over spiritual matters when God's word said Satan is in control of majority in the world {2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} well that's how your I AM operates sha no wahala!

So how come JW leaders vote to reach a consensus. If not how, tell us how

MaxInDHouse:
And who told you sinless means good?
Ọmọ stop jumping here and there!

I only asked a question.
Is sinfulness good?

MaxInDHouse:
Have you heard from God Himself that His name is not JEHOVAH?
Is it not what people wrote that you are banking on to condemn God's name?
Ọmọ you have no evidence to prove that JEHOVAH is not God's name!

Did you? If you did, produce your own writing so we can add it to all these below.
Clearly state that it was given to you by God

MaxInDHouse:
Good question!

Have you ever seen a person who changed from bad to good among God's prophets in Bible times?

NO you can't!

That's because His loyal ones takes the lead for disloyal ones to learn from them!

What is he saying. The person responsible for you and other Gentiles receiving the gospel did not change from bad to good? Why do those people give you false teachings??

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry i don't believe in politics so count me out!

How is fun and games politics? What office are we contesting for?

MaxInDHouse:
You just want to put words in people's mouth when Jesus has already spoken for himself!

You yourself have said Jesus is sinless. Is that good?

MaxInDHouse:
Are you sure you're for God or against God?

I ought be asking you as you insist on calling God the mistake name, Jehovah

Dtruthspeaker:
From your response it is clear that you won't ever understand what predestination is and why/how it is different from freewill. And despite all you have seen and experienced you shall perpetually be confused because of the laziness and not taking responsibility and looking to blame others. If it was your freewill to stay in bed, you have done so many times. So this is your just you trying to find excuses for your bad conducts forgetting like the girl who killed the lecturer, you have no excuse.

You did what you will in exercise of your freewill predestination or not or whether one osakwe predicted it or not. It is still all you and all done in your freewill

So please educate us how predestination includes freewill. Tell us how you cam choose to end up in Lagos if predestined to arrive in Ore

MeetDx:
I wasn't talking about the devil here. Why are you trying to change the topic? Jesus was in the flesh and he admitted he wasn't God nor was he good, but only God. Stop clutching at straws.

You are the one talking nonsense. God incarnate was with his closest friends that he trusted and told them exactly who he was - God the Son of God, if you see him you've seen God. But you choose to go by what he cryptically said amongst people bent on killing him before the appointed time, for claiming to be who he was - God!

And now you don't want to discuss the devil, knowing it will expose your nonsense!😅

MaxInDHouse:
Loyalty is rare that's why God only chose loyal people to be his representatives they the fittest by His criteria while others may follow their examples.
That's how God pick individuals among millions back then to serve as His prophets!

😅 So why does he provide space for people who change from bad to good?

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I don't understand. I can choose to do what I want to do. Who is stopping me?

Just reason it with your own commonsense. Between where you were born, whom you were born to, circumstances and experiences of your growing up, the type of brain and personality you were given; where then is the space for freewill? Add to that, you don't know where your thoughts come from, and it has been SCIENTIFICALLY proven that your decision is already in your brain before you are consciously aware of having made a decision!

Add to that, you were carefully designed to think 100% that you have free will. If despite everything you still suspect you don't have free will, chances are you don't have free will.

There are also telltale signs as always:
Prophesies and fortelliing the future would NOT be possible with freewill because a decision by a random person will produce a completely different result.
Neither will there be addictions to a large extent!

That's the point - it's all part of the predestination. I'm predestined to get out of the bed in the morning. I'm NOT predestined to stay in bed reasoning predestination will take care of everything!

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MeetDx:
Jesus never admitted he good, and I will keep telling you that. He knows why he admitted he wasn't good! Only God is good, his statement.

Ok, is the devil good?

MeetDx:
Jesus never admitted he good, and I replied.

You know the definition of good.
WAS JESUS GOOD??!!

MaxInDHouse:
Whoever is not loyal can't be no matter what happens!

Oh ok, if you're loyal at 90 you can still turn unloyal, but if you're unloyal in the womb (clearly not your fault) you cannot learn durring your lifetime and become loyal. Wow!
You, my friend, are a real genius!

MaxInDHouse:
They both know you always twist people's comments nah!

Instead of humbly learning what God calls "GOOD" you keep arguing against God's word!

So "good" now has different meaning when applied to God. Wow!!
DeepSight and LordReed come o!

MeetDx:
Jesus never admitted he was good!

You were asked a question. Was Jesus good?

MaxInDHouse:
The same thing he foresee in the two cases.
Jacob will be loyal.
Abraham will be loyal.
But whether their loyalty will pass the test of time is why God said:

"Now i know" Genesis 22:12

And as for Jacob he struggled with an angel just pleading to receive divine blessing {Genesis 32:26} the same divine blessing Esau despised! Genesis 25:34

So the test is to know whether these loyal friends of God will remain loyal when tested!

But he could foresee Esau would be unloyal to the end - from the womb o!

I begged you to spare me infantilism