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DeepSight:
That may be because men are known to run but donkeys are not known to talk.

It doesn't matter what it is. What matters is that enough people say it happened. Because people know the historian is not claiming they were there.

DeepSight:
Stop lying sir. There is a difference between reading and recitingfew.

How do you recite without first reading?
Why not ask yourself how come I know the Bible so well

DeepSight:
No, he will record that many people said so.

Nope. The historian who records Ojukwu ran away before end of the war will record just that. He won't say anybody told him

Maximus692:
If you agree that the TEACHER who laid the foundation is the head of CULTISM i will be proud of Jesus any time any day! Matthew 10:24-25

So are you saying Jesus was wrong for teaching his disciples to SHUN?

But you are extremely touchy about being called a cult. Why not be proud of it since it's from Jesus??

You were asked why easing up on shunning?
And where did Jesus tell his disciples to shun people

LordReed:
Dude have YOU read the Bible?

Everyday. You?

DeepSight:
Historians don't go about recording myths, legends and fantasies as fact. There is a difference between fictional literature and non fictional literature.

Historians record what they are told. If enough people say a donkey was talking, the historian would record a donkey was taking

Maximus692:
Jesus taught his disciples and told them to stick to that doctrine so if anyone feels like drifting away from what binds Jesus' disciples as one family of faith such a person should be SHUNNED!

You can't find this appealing after all the Bible itself doesn't make perfect sense to you as a person so why bother yourself on what Jesus taught?

Give example where Jesus taught his disciples to shun people

Maximus692:
Whatever people say doesn't count what Jesus COMMANDED is of utmost importance to us so if others disown Jesus due to his orders we don't! Matthew 10:32-33

The question is, why easing up on shunning amidst clamor of being a cult? Why not be proud of being called that?

DeepSight:
All the miracles in the OT and NT



It is one thing to say that you are reporting that someone claimed a donkey spoke. It is another thing to record it as fact in your account that the donkey spoke.

So you think someone made up all the miracles? Who and why?

Almost everything historians record as fact is what someone claimed happened. They're rarely eyewitnesses

DeepSight:
It was LordReed you praised and I don't think he is interested in your praises

What's the difference? I just take it for granted you're the same person.
In that case I withdraw my statement except the part about evidence
I believe Jesus is Son of God (a manifestation of God) based on evidence NOT attributes or logic

Maximus692:
We follow Jesus' orders STRICTLY!

So why amidst all the clamor of being a cult, JW is easing up on shunning

DeepSight:
There are many such unusual and clearly ahistorical events narrated there.

Not true. Give examples.
Besides, so if a historian hears story of a talking donkey he should not include it in his work??

LordReed:
Limitations? You don't think you can properly evaluate reality. That is not a limitation, that's insanity.

"Reality" is whatever signals are transmitted to your brain, no matter their source. What has that to do with what is actually there??

Not being aware of that is what is dumb!

DeepSight:
With all due respect you can't be sane. You created a thread saying no one can know the attributes of God and then began to insist that you know Jesus is God because of his attributes.

Now I've praised you as being NOT as dumb as other atheists you're disappointing me.
You know full well I never said attributes. I always only said EVIDENCE!!! And you know it!

DeepSight:
The bible is not a history text book. History text books do not contain talking snakes and donkeys.

You really think someone made up the Bible, huh. Who, please tell.
What percentage of the Bible is talking snakes and donkeys?? Regale us

DeepSight:
Ask him about the practice of shunning which proves he is in a cult and see him sprint like Iblis between two hills.

No mind am.
Amidst all the criticism they're a cult, they gradually easing it

Maximus692:
SHUNNING is what Jesus taught as rules for his disciples to separate themselves from unrepentant sinners.
So true believers in Christ must SHUN those who turned against the faith!

So is why is JW gradually dropping it??

Maximus692:
It seems you always forget your own rules o!

You once again goaded me into it by harping on works when that's not what we discussing. Besides, I really don't consider those insults, but since you do I'll keep away from them!

DeepSight:
Questioning the historicity of Jesus is not dumb.

True! - if you've NEVER read the Bible!

LordReed:
My sanity as evidenced by the way you reason.

Ouch!
Who's more sane, he who acknowledges limitations of his reasoning, or he who doesn't even know he has enormous limitations?

MaxInDHouse:
Who is talking about works designed by humans?
Ọmọ we are talking about WORKS that's resulting from FAITH in what Christ Jesus commanded.
Charity could be done by any religion so we are not talking about something that all kinds of religion can perform rather we are talking about WORKS that only those adhering to Jesus' teachings can do!

Like child sexual abuse that's all over your history.
That kind of works? What other kind of works do you mean?

MaxInDHouse:
Well our FAITH is about WORKS so if your faith is not centered on works then there is nothing further to discuss! James 2:18-26

Other churches, their works are everywhere. Show works of JW.
A self-centered group that's only interested in maintaining their cult is talking about works!

LordReed:
Have you ever seen me argue that Jesus did not exist?

This proves you're not as dumb as other atheists.
Why not go all the way and accept him as your Lord and personal savior?
What do you have to lose?
Really, what do you have to lose??!!!

tctrills:
Trust me, they will still argue. You can't change their minds. They prefer to believe any story that disproves Christ no matter how unproven it is.

People like sonmvayina never gets tired of preaching to anyone who'd listen that Jesus was invented by "Rome". Ask him WHY Rome would be inventing someone who destroyed their gods and turned their god-emperor into just another sinner, and he doesn't have an answer!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i'm not interested in all these useless arguments {1Timothy 6:4} just present the WORKS of your I AM in the midst of it's worshipers and it's solved.

All these means nothing to me and any of my brothers.

If you really insist on discussing works here, show any charity that JW have, compare to, say, Catholic charities. A group that did not lift a finger to help fight inhumane Jim Crow against blacks in US is talking about works! Because "they are not of this system of things"! But they'll suddenly be part of these system of things and go to court when it affects their cash cow!

MaxInDHouse:
Between someone who keeps arguing without any WORKS to show for his FAITH and someone pointing to the WORKS of his FAITH?
Who knows better?

Come on! You've been arguing over this for more than a week now yet all you've gotten is twisting LETTERS used in God's word instead of presenting a group that is doing something worthwhile so all can see the SPIRIT you're talking about in action!

This is what Paul said:



(God) has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the LETTER but of the SPIRIT; for the LETTER kills, but the SPIRIT gives life. ‭2 Corinthians 3:6 NIV‬

Please present the WORKS of your I AM instead of just arguing on words abeg let us see the SPIRIT in action! James 2:18-26

Because this thread is NOT about works!!! Jeez!

MaxInDHouse:
He could be any God according to their scriptures! Psalms 82:6

If you take it in isolation! But you don't take these things in isolation!
Same person said: "Why are you asking me to show you God? Once you see me you've seen God"
Who else did Jews ever tried to stone for claiming to be God??!!!

MaxInDHouse:
Angels are Gods according to the scriptures given to Jews because they are immortal beings so if anyone claims to be older than Abraham such a person is saying he is an angel or some sort of immortal: God

SO THEY WERE STONNING HIM FOR CLAIMING TO BE GOD!!!!
So why, for the life of me, have you and Janosky been arguing that's not true like your life depended on it??!!!!!!

MaxInDHouse:
Ask whoever told you that to present a performing group using a better name for God and what such a group has been able to achieve.
JEHOVAH is the name of our God and we have lots of achievements because we keep using His name!

When you know better you do better.
Before you didn't know, now you know.
How'd like to be called John??

MaxInDHouse:
Only Jehovah's Witnesses encourage him to open the Bible his other friends are interested in using human reasoning so please let him continue with them at least they all agree with him in the worship of their I AM!

You've already been shown "Jehovah" is a mistake from Medieval times and NOT anywhere close to God's name.
Why do you keep using it?

Janosky:
Tell him again maybe this time he would comprehend it.

See, what I DON'T, for the life of me, understand about you and Maxindhouse is that you can actually READ! Different if you couldn't read!
John 10:33,: "We are not stoning you for any good work," they replied, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

Please tell us how this can be read to mean they're stoning him for saying he was before Abraham! Geez!
Driving me nuts!!!

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