Empiree: Your case is like ignorant sahabi, ‘Adiyy ibn Hatim (may Allaah be pleased with him), when al-Baqarah 2:187 was revealed, about night of Ramadan (when to stop eating sahoor), he understood the ayah literally. The ayah reads:
"...So now, have relations with them and seek that which Allah has decreed for you. And eat and drink until the white thread distinct to you from the black thread."
He(sahabi) took a black rope and a white rope and put them beneath his pillow, and he started to look at them during the night, but he could not see any distinction between them until next morning he went to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and told him about that. He said, ‘Rather that is the blackness of the night and the whiteness of the day.’”
If you truly understand english, why dont you take the clear verse of Quran literally as printed?
So if not for hadith explaining the verse, I am sure that you being literalist, would have done exactly what sahabi did by taking white and black threads and be looking at them like dummy all day long. So therefore, this is telling you that there exist metaphorical and figurative expressions. My question is since you consider the guy mushrik for his statement, and you didnt follow sunnah of giving benefits of the doubt to ask him to clear the air, why not take this ayah literally as well, hun?
Below is the message i sent him on Wednesday 7, 2018 at 7:30AM
You can only fool yourself. How are his words now become the holy Quran or Hadith? Who is he? Mr nobody from nowhere. Quran is word of Allah & those shirk statement are word of who? 1 big fool.
And who is the guy in question that will make shirk statement and we will be waiting 4 some useless explanation. And you're here busy ranting about benefit of doubts. You that gave him benefit of doubts what's the result? Defense on the shirk statement and you're satisfied with it.
("I divorce you 3 times" but that's not my intention " I mean you should continue being my wife" ) Inyass is the controller of heaven. No I don't mean such contact me for further details. Well I understand English and I requires no prince Charles for explanation. The sentence have no other alternative meaning.
Regarding the screenshot you just posted, you're hypocritical to your ownself. You believe in the explanation he gave and you're still asking him to stop posting what he cannot defend. So which is which. You're not here and you're not here. Now do you see your hypocrisy?
You said he has good intentions. Where are the good intentions? Good intentions is when you stand with oneness and supremacy of God. God intention is when you encourage people to follow Muhammad peace be upon him not Inyass. Good intentions is when you teach people to pray directly to Allah without following inyas office. These are good intentions and not telling us how Inyass controls heaven.
Every now and then some fools be like in saner climes this that blablabla. Yet they ended up being slaves when they embark on dangerous journey to Europe via the Sahara desert.
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Empiree: talk to him or leave me alone. If you are not satisfied with his explanation then free me. If his explanation still mean the same thing I would have shuned him and I don't condone anyone to use such phrases as it could be easily misconstrued.
This is no act of miscontrueing. This is simple English. I cannot free you if the explanation to you is ok. If what he said is true but we are only miscontrueing it then I cannot free you. Because you initially try to defend it giving the shirk statement benefit of doubts.
I know what I believe. I am adult and I don't understand how they will "deceive" me.
Ofcourse he is deceiving you if that explanation is justification to what he wrote.
Sometimes I wonder about Sunnah you guys claim to follow because part of the Sunnah is that in this situation like this, you simply need to contact him instead of condemnation from far. How do you get problem solved like that?.
No need of contacting him because that's waste of time because a useless explanation that you posted is what he will say again. On my own side I will accept nothing less than total retraction of the initial post and not explanation. I do not require holy spirit or Queen Elizabeth to explain those points about inyass.
So contact him or leave me alone. I'm not Tijjaniya member. Sunnah demands that we give excuses, perhaps, up to 10 times even if we are not comfortable with opposing views. I don't see that in you.
Naturally I don't comment or send messages to anonymous people on Facebook. You're his mouthpiece since you're defending and being satisfied with such explanations.
So free me, please if you aren't comfortable. And remember, those guys do exactly what you do too. So you are all extreme people. If I see something from them that got worried, I always contact them to clear the air. Whether I am comfortable with them or not.
And you have absolutely no idea what I sent him privately yesterday. I told him to stop posting what he can't defend. So what's my own now?
You ask him to stop posting what he cannot defend? Really? And he defend the samething he posted and you become satisfied with the explanation. You live abroad & u have communicated in English with the whites for decade(s) yet you require this guy to explain the meaning of who control the heaven for u.
somehow: A master degree holder an iliterate? A man who can read and write, went to 2 different military schools outside Nigeria (India and the US) an iliterate?
Please what Is the definition of an illiterate? Need to find out something..
Somehow for him just like your morniker suggested.
Mufti menk is back in Nigeria. 1Ummah Peace & Unity Convention. He is currently in Lagos and he/many other scholars will be in Lagos and Abuja. Perhaps Portharcourt and Maiduguri.
Empiree: Take it or leave it. It is established that, that is not the intended meaning. So if you still have problem with it, I urge you to contact them directly bcus I won't allow you to put me in defensive mode against sheik niyas(ra).
He was long gone and none of his contemporaries excommunicated him. Therefore, it is too late for you to label him what he was not.
I have understood intended meaning of what is written. If you are not satisfied, kindly reach out to them on your own. I have done my part to contact them and I'm done.
Good day
Nothing was established. Like I said they will only deceive you but not me. Just like saying to your wife that I divorce you and that's not the intent of the word. You're calling someone the controller of heaven and you're telling me that's not the meaning. Useless talk. Why will you say such stupid things at first if that's not the meaning.
This is clear shirk and no magical explanation will change it. Advice your fellow friend to withdraw such nonsense he wrote as a Muslim and stop defending and claiming you're satisfied with that trash explanations.
I am not contacting him like I told you. I am intelligent enough to understand English and this is No Quran or Hadith that requires a scholar to explain but a stupid writing by someone.
Hahaha CAN of worms has finally give them the lies to post. Why are you telling us now after 2 month. Your afterthought damage control won't sell. CAN have already hired 120 lawyers to defend the killers.
Useless and Baseless writing up there. So now what he write is correct that Inyas is god that he control the heaven. That we need him to decide and explain to us he doesn't mean such. Is just that we don't understand English.
@Empiree is he a Nairalander that he screenshot the thread or you send him the link? Secondly is he dissociating himself from the early post which in summary means inyas is god or he is offering explanation on how what he said is correct?
What of Baro port that has been completed and not put to use because of road? What is delaying Onitsha port to start operating following it concessioned? Why is lokoja river port not ready up till now?
abbeyty: Why this crowd cuz of building road? I think say naija don pass this rubbish. The north has good roads more than any other part of Nigeria, how they do it I don't know
CaptainFM1: 3rd Mainland Bridge in Lagos, Nigeria is 11.8Km and is the longest in West Africa and in no.2 position in the entire Africa. The longest in Africa is 6th October Bridge in Cairo. Egypt at 20.5km. There are still several bridges in Africa longer than 2.2km
Asidy: All of the bridges (flyovers) was done by Kwankwaso, because kwankwaso done Almost 80% of Sabon gari, if u r in doubt ask any Kano man that u know.
The interchange is of 3 levels: The underpass, Roundabout and then flyover. Located at Dangi roundabout off Aliyu bn abi talib mosque, zoo road in kano metropolis. The work commenced early this year around april/may.
frowland: No, they are different bridge. one is in Sabon Geri and the other is around that Zoo road area. Very far apart from eachother. Anyone who knows Kano understand what I mean.
Nope. There are actually 3.
1. Kofar Nassarawa 2. Ibrahim Taiwo (Obasanjo flyover) 3. Then this one in sabon gari.
That of zoo road is under massive construction. It is an underpass and flyover same place
yashedabai: I wonder how some people here who have never been to the north, talk less of having a chance to visit Kano trying to comment rubbish on this thread. Sabon gari flyover (Longest, to be commissioned soon), Obasanjo road bridge, Kofar Nasarawa bridge are 3 different independent flyovers.. Don't comment on something you've no knowledge on, so as to stay away from spewing thrash...