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Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by Frizy(op): 12:46pm On May 03, 2008
Chapter 5 Circumcision of Jesus

When the eight days were fulfilled according to the law of the Lord, as it is written in the book of Moses, they took the child and carried him to the temple to circumcise him. And so they circumcised the child, and gave him the name Jesus, as the angel of the Lord had said before he was conceived in the womb. Mary and Joseph perceived that the child must needs be for the salvation and ruin of many. Wherefore they feared God, and kept the child with fear of God.
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by Frizy(op): 12:45pm On May 03, 2008
4 Him:
Here is the problem, while other scriptures in the bible can be traced to the 1st century, the fraudulent gospel of Barnabas did not surface until the 15th century. who hid it and why?
another problem, was Spanish and Italian the language of the 1st century apostles?
All other gospels were found written in greek or aramaic . . . why is this "gospel of barnabas" different
Davidylan don't worry evidences are coming. **busy**
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by Frizy(op): 6:40pm On May 02, 2008
4. Angels announce to the shepherds the birth of Jesus, and they, after having found him, annouce him.

At that time the shepherds were watching over their flock, as is their custom. And, behold, they were surrounded by an exceeding bright light, out of which appeared to them an angel, who blessed God. The shepherds were filled with fear by reason of the sudden light and the appearance of the angel: whereupon the angel of the lord comformted them, saying: "Behold, I announce to you a great joy, for there is born in the city of David a child who is a prophet of the Lord; who bringeth great salvation to the house of Israel. The child ye shall find in the manger, with his mother, who blesseth God". And when he had said this there came a great multitude of angels blessing God, announcing peace to them that have good will. When the angels were departed, the shepherds spake among themselves, saying: "Let us go even unto Bethelehem, and see the word which God by his angel hath announced to us".
There came many shepherds to Bethlehem seeking the new-born babe, and they found outsde the city the child that was born, according to the word of teh angle, lying in the manger. They therefore made obeisance to him, and gave to the mother that which they had, announcing to her what they had heard and seen. mary therefore kept all these things in her heart, and Joseph [likewise], giving thanks to God. The shepherds returned to their flock, announcing to everyone how great a thing they had seen. And so the whole hill-country of Judaea was filled with fear, and every man laid up this word in his heart, saying: "What, think we, shall this child be?"
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by Frizy(op): 4:43pm On May 02, 2008
3.Wonderful birth of Jesus, and appearance of angels praising God.

There reigned at that time in Judaea Herod, by decree of Caersar Augustus, and Pilate was governor in the priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas. Wherefore, by decree of Augustus, all the world was enrolled; wherefore each one went to his own country, and they presented themselves by their own tribes to be enrolled. Joseph accordingly departed from Nazareth, a city of Galilee, with Mary his wife, great with child, to go to Bethlehem (for that it was his city, he being of the lineage David), in order that he might be enrolled according to the decree of Caesar. Joseph having arrived at Bethlehem, for that the city was small, and great the multitude of them that were strangers there, he found no place, wherefore he took lodging outside the city in a lodging made for a shepherds' shepherd.

While Joseph aboded there the days were fulfilled for Mary to bringforth. The virgin was surrounded by the light of exceeding bright, and broughtforth her son without pain, whom she took in her arms, and wrapping him in swaddling clothes, laid him in the manger, because there was no room in the inn. There came with gladness a great multitude of angels to the inn, blessing God and annoucing peace to them that fear God.
Mary and Joseph praised the Lord for the birth of Jesus, and with greatest joy nurtured him.
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by Frizy(op): 4:28pm On May 02, 2008
smile4kenn:
@frizy

You are ignorant of so many facts, So many scholars have read this book and criticized it. The book is said to be professionally(not like texts of the 1st century) written and it has been linked to 14th, 15th or 16th century.

There is another evidence that linked the book to 14th century contrary to what happened in the 1st century.

Open your eyes, forget about this useless book that was written for revenge,

You will gain nothing from this, but will only be brainwashed,

An advice for you: Face your studies or work because thats where you can only benefit than spreading this fake gospel
Nawa o! Are you telling me that is was written after Paul's death, when there are so many evidences here with me that it wasn't. I must say you're ignorant of the history of your religion -Christianity. You say many scholars have refuted its autheticity. Why is your bible not all the same if you got the original. There many verses from this scripture that describes what God excepted of Christ himself, and what we should think of him. Your scholars may not recognise it true since they love the corrupted.
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by Frizy(op): 4:19pm On May 02, 2008
2. The warning of the angel Gabriel given to Joseph concerning the conception of Virgin Mary.

Mary having known the will of God, fearing the people, lest they should take offence at her being great with child, and should stone her as guilty of fornication, chose a companion of her own lineage, a man by name called Joseph, of blameless life: for he as a righteous man feared God and served him with fastings and prayers, living by the works of his hands, for he was a carpenter.

Such a man the virgin knowing, chose him for her companion and revealed to him the divine counsel.

Joseph being a righteous man, when he perceived that Mary was great with child, was minded to put her away because he feared God. Behold, whilst he slept, he was rebuked by the angel  of God, saying, "O Joseph, why art thou minded to put away mary thy wife? Know that whatsoever hath been wrought in her hath all been done by the will of God. The virgin shall bring forth a son, whom thou shall call by the name Jesus; whom thou shalt keep from wine and strong drink and from every unclean meat, because he is an holy one of God from his mother's womb. He is a prophet of God sent unto the people of Israel, in order that he may convert Judah to his heart, and the  Israel may walk in the law of the Lord, as it is written in the law of Moses. He shall come with great power, which God shall give him, and shall work great miracles, whereby many shall be saved".

Joseph, arising from sleep, gave thanks to God, and abode with Mary all his life, serving God with all sincerity.
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by Frizy(op): 4:03pm On May 02, 2008
imhotep:
@Frizy
Its no use running, when you are no the wrong road.
Please am not here to confuse anyone. It is better that we know the truth and condemn falsehood. The reasons why this Gospel wasn't advocated by Pauline church which we have now among majority to the christians was that the true Christians who accepted it were killed and it was an offence to have the book. The church was divided to the Trinity doctrine and Monotheism.

But no matter how much you cover the truth, truth still stands. I'll discuss how Paul and Barnabas differed soon. cool

Please don't bother critising that I want it to support Isl'am. The truth is what we should unvail.
Christianity EtcRe: Where Is The Anti Christ Coming From by Frizy(m): 12:48pm On May 02, 2008
I don't know, maybe somewhere in North America. Have you watched "Undercover brother" remember "The man". grin
Christianity EtcRe: Does The New Testament Completely Rule Out The Significance Of The Old Testament by Frizy(m): 12:43pm On May 02, 2008
I think the history of the new testament is very shady. Early Christians who met with Jesus weren't worshipping him but Paul and the others began the doctrine that was believed to wipe away the truth. Christians no offence. Has anyone of you read the Gospel of Barnabas? His Gospel was probably before Paul's and he was an apostle to Jesus.
Paul never encountered Jesus face to face while he(Jesus) was alive except his claim that Jesus appeared to him even after his death. Barnabas' Gospel is the truth considering Jesus. And people(Christians) who believed in it were prosecuted.
The Church destroyed any link relating to the Gospel of Barnabas and became a strong advocate for Paul's false doctrine.

Therefore my conclusion is that the New testament most Christians believe in is not what Jesus himself preached. And God confirmed the Old testament changed in some parts in order to fit the rabbis' illegitimate means.

Why not believe in the Ko'ran and stop contemplating on which should be considered or not. That will surely save you from an awful doom.
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by Frizy(op): 10:48am On May 02, 2008
1. In this first chapter is contained the annunciation of the angel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary concerning the birth of Jesus.

In these last years a virgin called Mary, of the lineage of David, of the tribe of Judah, was visited by the angel Gabriel from God. This virgin, living in all holiness without any offence, being blameless, and abiding in prayer with fastings. Being one day alone, there entered into her chamber the angel Gabriel, and he saluted her, saying: "God be with thee, O Mary".

The virgin was affrighted at the appearnace of the angel; but the angel comforted her, saying: "Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found favour with God, who hath chosen thee to be mother of a prophet, whom he will send to the people of Israel in order that they may walk in his laws with truth of heart". The virgin answered: "Now how shall I bring forth sons, seeing I know not a man?" The angel answered: "O Mary, God who made man without man is able to generate in thee man without a man, because with him nothing is impossible. Mary answered: "I know that God is almighty, therefore his will be done." The angel answered: "Now be conceived in thee the prophet, whom thou shalt name Jesus : and thou shalt keep him from wine and strong drink and every unclean meat, because the child is an holy one of God."

Mary bowed herself with humility, saying: "Know, O my soul, the greatness of God, and exult, my spirit, in God my Saviour; for he hath regarded the lowliness of his handmaiden, insomuch that I shall be called blessed by all nations, for he that is mighty hath made me great, and blessed be his holy name". For his mercy extendeth from generation to generation of them that fear him. Mighty hath he made his hand, and he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of his heart. He hath put down the mighty from their seat, and hath exalted the humble. Him who hath been hungry hath he filled with good things, and the rich he hath been hungry hath he filled with good things, and the rich he hath sent empty away. For he keepeth in memory the promises made to Abraham and his son for ever.
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by Frizy(op): 10:36am On May 02, 2008
Introduction

True Gospel of Jesus, called Christ, a new prophet sent by God to the world: according to the descripton of Barnabas his apostle.

Barnabas, apostle of Jesus the Nazarene, called Christ, to all them that dwell upon the earth deriseth peace and consolation.
Dearly beloved, the great and wonderful God hath during these past days visited us by his prophet Jesus Christ in great mercy of teaching and miracles, by reason whereof many, being deceived of Satan, under pretence of piety, are preaching most impious doctrine, calling Jesus son of God, repudiating the circumcision ordained of God for ever, and permitting every unclean meat: among whom also Paul hath been deceived. Whereof I speak not without grief; for whichcause I am writing the truth which I have seen and heard, in the intercourse that I have had with Jesus, in order that ye may be saved, and not be deceived of Satan and perish in the judgement of God. Therefore beware of every one that preacheth unto you new doctrine contrary to that which I write, that ye may be saved eternally.

The great God be with you and guard you from Satan and every evil. Amen.
Christianity EtcThe Gospel Of Barnabas(the True Forgotten Gospel) by Frizy(op): 10:24am On May 02, 2008
I have the great pleasure of presenting to our Musl'lims and Christian brothers the Gosple of Barnabas.  The Musl'im will find it illuminating and inspiring. Our Christian brothers may find it interesting. Who was Barnabas?Barnabas was an apostle of Jesus Christ. The interesting facts about Barnabas and the history of early christianity. You will find out how this Gospel has survived to see the light of the day again.

It is my plan is to post the complete the Gospel of Barnabas once or twice daily section by section. Stating the sections in the actual arranged form in English. smiley

May the light of the Gospel of Barnabas illuminate the hearts of all those who care to read it. Amen/Amin.
Christianity EtcRe: Please I Will Like To Know. by Frizy(m): 5:28pm On Apr 29, 2008
mazaje:
Bed time fables , oouch even educated people believe in all these myths grin grin grin grin Chie no be small thing ohhh.
That that sound funny to you is the truth. Another thing is to believe. By the way, you think education has anything to do with this? Please, I beg you, don't worship your intellect
Christianity EtcRe: Nairaland Book Of Proverbs by Frizy(m): 3:28pm On Apr 29, 2008
This is a great thread. Please I don't want anyone to change its focus. Am composing a lot of poems called Poems for the Thinking Man.. I may soon publish it. It is therefore incumbent on every Mus'lim that see them to comment on what should be improved for evaluation purposes.

I want this thread to be productive irrespective of our religion (Musl'im or Christians)

Thanks
Sadiq
Christianity EtcRe: God's Omniscience: Abraham And Isaac by Frizy(m): 9:54am On Apr 29, 2008
huxley:
What is the point of testing anyone if he is god. If he is god he should already be aware of the state of everyone's heart and mind. So why is the test required? Is it because god did not know and needed the test to find out, like you and me would have needed a test to determine suitability of a candidate for a position?
Why must you write an exam to be qualified for a job? huh You think everyone should just be left alone because God knows what they can do. That's not possible because one has to increase in faith or decrease. As people increase in disbelieve or decrease.
PoliticsRe: Behold; The Liberation Of Oyo People In Sight? by Frizy(m): 9:46am On Apr 29, 2008
nuzo:
As i wish the self acclaimed king of Ibadan politics a quick recovery
thereby breeding dozens of ruthless thugs and leaving the state a condition of perpetual violence.
Why? huh
Christianity EtcRe: Muhammed Suicide Attempts by Frizy(m): 8:58pm On Apr 25, 2008
@babylosis
Or whatever, you claim the prophet(p.b.u.h) was schizophernic, you're or will be the schizophernic one because All'ah Himself says [size=13pt]"they will come to know who is bewitched or not( O Muhammed). . .. And in the fire they will abide forever.
Another says: They will eat of a tree called Zarkum that nourish not nor relief from hunger.[/size] angry
IslamRe: Jama'atu Nasril Blames Northern Draught On Our Sins. by Frizy(m): 8:37pm On Apr 25, 2008
That maybe very true
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Right For Christians To Celebrate Christmas? by Frizy(m): 8:35pm On Apr 25, 2008
No.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do We Mourn When Someone Dies? Can't We Dance? by Frizy(m): 8:32pm On Apr 25, 2008
The unthinking man.
Christianity EtcRe: God is worthy. by Frizy(m): 8:29pm On Apr 25, 2008
None.
IslamRe: How Many Wives/husbands Are Muslims Entitled To In A Lifetime? by Frizy(m): 6:41pm On Apr 24, 2008
@ogbelama
Okay. In your case you don't seem to be hypocritical. I advice you to limit to the maximum to four anyway.
IslamRe: How Many Wives/husbands Are Muslims Entitled To In A Lifetime? by Frizy(m): 6:27pm On Apr 24, 2008
Firstly, for those who think Isl'am is all about marrying four wives and divorcing them, you're wrong. No religious Mu'slim man will divorce four women for the sake of having a new taste of women. I don't know why people (Christians) don't seem to understand that marrying more women is better than the adultery most of their married men and women pursuit. Not all men are alike some may be satisfied with one woman while others may not.

The wicked thought that the poster posted saying you're able to recycle women as long as you don't marry four at a time is just another way of knowing that you don't know anything about Isla'm, because no devoted Musl'im will do such. And God Himself dislikes divorce
Christianity EtcRe: The Second Coming of Jesus: Fact or Fiction? by Frizy(m): 8:08pm On Apr 18, 2008
4 Him:
You are right, it is not only similar to the christian doctrine of the resurrection but is a CLEAR attempt to decietfully lay claims to the resurrection.
Note: I did not say Christ resurrected. All I said was he will come back to the earth and not yet dead. The concept of resurrection in Is'lam has to do with the wake after death by the magnificient power of All'ah. Christ is in the third heaven.
Here are my reasons why:
1. Why is there an anti-Christ but NO anti-mo'hammed? Was mohamm'd not the GREATEST AND LAST prophet?
2. What is so special about "Christ" that All'ah claims to have raised Him to himself but FAILED to even prevent m'ohammed from dying of poison?
1. The term "Anti-christ" is just the English interpretation of one eyed devil coming to rule the world in the later days. "Dajah" is the Arabic, just as Musa is called Moses in English translation.
2. Well, if you believe christ wasn't crucified then I don't see why you should be a christian. All'ah raised to show He is able to protect whom He will. All'ah's plans are best known to Him alone. By the way, this claim nullifies christ been killed- and Mohamm'ed and schloars further explains that another man was the one that appeared to the people to be Christ.
3. Who told you Moh'ammed was poisoned? The lies y'all fabricate cannot subdue truth.
Christianity EtcRe: The Second Coming of Jesus: Fact or Fiction? by Frizy(m): 7:40pm On Apr 18, 2008
Femi 1:
The Qur'an and hadith is our constitutional book and anything the The Great Book says is the truth, if hadith oppose the motion of the Qur'an , then the motion of the hadith is incorrect. Go to The Great Book 21:7-8,34, Almighty God told The Great Prophet that in the above chapter and verses that befor The Great Prophet came into this world, He (God) did not grant to any human being (messengers, prophets) immortal life, that everybody befor The Great Prophet had died. and as we know Man is destined to die once.
I know that every man is destined to die and have read the verses you're stating. But christ was not crucified by anyone according to All'ah and not the hadith. The ko'ran states that Christ was saved from death(crucifixion) and All'ah raised him unto Himself. Christ is in the third heaven according to the prophet and he will come back to the earth to kill the Anti-christ(Dajah).This may be similar to the Christain theology but is not identical.
The prophet Mo'hammed further states that he will land after descent from heaven in the Mosque of damascus.
By the way, 100% of the sunni schloars agree will this remark. Christ will die after killing the Anti-christ and all evil will be more.
Christianity EtcRe: The Second Coming of Jesus: Fact or Fiction? by Frizy(m): 7:26pm On Apr 18, 2008
@Femi 1
I disagree completely. How do you represent the Mus'lims like this? Are you an Ahmadiiiii!!! angry
You are going against what the Ko'ran and Moh'ammed taught and said. The ko'ran clearly states that Christ will return and he is not dead yet. Okay!
I advice you to change your Al-Qida(creed). Because going against a verse in the ko'ran guarantees the fire! May All'ah save us.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Did Abraham Nearly Sacrifice: Ishmael Or Isaac? by Frizy(m): 7:19pm On Apr 18, 2008
imhotep:
What gave Moh@mmed the audacity to modify the OT 570 years after Christ??
I think you should rephrase the question to "Why did they deceive us that it was Isaac?" Probably to make ishmael less important. Your question to the my interpretation is just like you saying: "Why should God speak the truth?". You see why you maybe seen cruel?! angry
TV/MoviesCnn And Others Always Protrays Evil About Us. Why? by Frizy(op): 7:03pm On Apr 18, 2008
I was just watching a programme on CNN titled "Trapped". This program was about Nigerian women travelling to countries like Denmark and other western countries -where they're forced to be commercial sex workers. Please my question is why must it always be Nigeria that this CNN and other western media houses focus on for misconduct?
Are there no other African countries with issues, even the United States has more prostitues. Why us?
Christianity EtcRe: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven? by Frizy(m): 6:34pm On Apr 18, 2008
@Kola Oloye
My brother bab787 made a mistake check 2:111. Not eleven. That is one of the several verses showing that believing that christ died for your sins is just a claim; a claim unregconized by God Himself.
Please if you believe in God, then read the Kor'an to know what the real truth is!
IslamRe: The Legacy Of A Prophet by Frizy(m): 5:26pm On Apr 17, 2008
nossycheek:
I don't know the paradise you are talking about or is it the one full of sexual orgies? What with the several virgins with self regenerating hymen.
Is it that is paining you? grin grin grin. Ah! I pray I make it. wink

The religion of the great religion is one of calamity and falsehood. What more, we can't even rely on what MO said he did, saw or heard because of the hallucinations he suffered while on earth or how do we know when he was in lucid period to take him serious?
Seriously speaking, it is only Isl'am that is straight-forward. It is only your believe that Mus'lims don't worship God but we are the ones truly worshipping Him the way the commanded. There is no religion that has a perfect praying pattern that is uniform all over the world, Isl'am has that. I don't have to think that it is weird for people saying things like Mohamm'ed was mad or deluded (which I strongly oppose). There are several parts of the great book that not only declares his sanity but also prove that it is those you claim such about him are the blindfolded. And God Himself says: They will come to know (O Muhamm'ed) in a manner of time who are the deluded ones.

The definition of deluded according to the Ko'ran may mean the example of someone who is every thirsty and needs water. Then he sees from far away that he could get the water from the top of somewhere but in truth- after getting to the spot he found nothing(just a mirage).
But the right thinking sees whatever he spends right with All'ah and even in folds.
God promises those who do not bow down in prayer (to Alla'h)or when the Ko'ran is read everlasting torment. Moh'ammed describes this by saying that just about sixty sometime(maybe 65) part of it that is just what we use on earth. And if the flames only are released for a short while to the earth(assumingly) no one will survive.

So please I beg you to have a change of heart and stop saying things that are incurring wrath upon yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Prayers Change Nigeria? by Frizy(m): 5:44pm On Apr 16, 2008
The only thing prayer can do in Nigeria is to cause a violent earthquake/lightening in Nigeria killing all those who love to drive the country backward. cool
Christianity EtcRe: Men And Women Don't Pray Together In The Mosque. Why? by Frizy(m): 5:32pm On Apr 16, 2008
nossycheek:
Yes he know everything hence his comments/lamentations unlike MO who is not even sure of making paradise[/b]
The prophet Mo'hammed said this only because he submitted is full cause to All'ah. All'ah will surely reward him paradise because the keys to the Garden will be handed to him and no one else on the day of judgement. tongue


The truth he has spoken and you can only take it or leave it. That info is the only thing the Father hid from him
Why should God the father hide it from the son or the holy spirit when you claim they are equal in soverign, or 3 in 1. Can the president of U.S hide anything from himself?!

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