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advocatejare:
Umar, who later became the second Rashidun caliphate, wanted Muhammad to tell Muslim women that Allah has commanded them to use using Hijab, but Muhammad would have none of that, Umar then decided to use Muhammad’s weak point against him: his wives.
Umar went to peep at Sauda, one of Muhammad’s wives, where she was answering the calls of nature, when Muhammad heard about it, he immediately said Allah had revealed the hijab verse!



You can imagine a follower of Muhammad, whom Muslim see as rightly guided, peeping at the unclothedness of his master’s wife!

Umar knew that the quranic verses were Mohammed's. There's no Jubril anywhere revealing things to him. He played his trick according to this knowledge, and it worked. Muslims are in trouble.

gaskiyamagana:
So, Solomon is co-author of the Bible with God according to your first sentence?
If l am uncircumcised in the heart, never be able to see, behind porn mind, body and words ( with which l always won heart of my girl friend and often recommended to my friends for their girl friends) in the Song of Solomon; how circumcised were you in heart to tell me otherwise about Allah, Qur'an and lslam?

It's you Muslims who claim the Quran was written by Allah. That's why any discrepancy in the book cannot be overlooked. And, it's pathetic that the Quran falls short of what could have been written by the Almighty God. The flaws are numerous. The cover ups by the Muslim scholars don't help matters.

On the other hand, we make no such claims about the Bible. The Bible is an inspired Book. That is a book written by men who were moved by the Spirit of God to write. These men are imperfect beings but God uses their sincerity to bless the world.

Yes, you see, when an uncircumcised mind reads the book of Solomon or any other part of scripture, he comes only in contact with the letters. Just the letters, and he can't see beyond that. He is too blind to the message that the book is passing across.

There are tons of lessons we've learnt from the book in our walk with God.

gaskiyamagana:
Probably , in page 1 or 2 of the thread, he associated the word ' falsehood ' with the Qur'an. I told him that, that was according to his ignorance cum passionate hatred of Islam, not according to Qur'an itself as against Bible which said so according to itself. Then I quoted Jeremiah 8:8, in which the KEY WORD concerning infiltration, interpolation, adulteration and tampering of the Bible is LIE. He replied with another quote in which KEY WORD of the verse concerning mixture of FALSEHOOD and TRUTH in the Bible is VAIN.
My questions from then (pages1 & 2) till now are:
1. How nearness or synonym is Lie and Vain in content or context of Jeremiah 8:8 ?
2. Was it from Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek Bible languages the original Word translated to English means LIE or VAIN ?

I don't know what you aim to derive from this question. However, that verse of scripture had to do with a time in Israel when the people had forsaken their God and were still pretending to be worshipping Him. God sent a few prophets warning them about the judgement and the punishment of God that was coming. Jeremiah was one of such prophets. Meanwhile, there were also many self-acclaimed prophets who told the people that there's no judgements coming and that there's no punishment anywhere. They told the people that good things are coming. Jerusalem would flourish. There shall be no war. All these were lies. Jeremiah 8:8 was a warning and and a reprimand for those false prophets.

And, when you keep going through the book, you'll discover how those false prophets were eventually punished. The people who listened to them and rejected the true prophets also bore the judgement of God's wrath. It was severe.

gaskiyamagana:
Alright
Ok
Tell me the LIES holy Bible of SONGS OF SOLOMON?

Songs of Solomon was a book written by Solomon in honour of his Ethiopian wife.

The Old testament is a book written to chronicle the formation of Israel as a nation as well as record the activities of their kings.

Solomon was one of the kings of Israel whom God lifted up. He later fell because of disobedience and his love for strange women. The songs of Solomon shows us some of his mistakes. We learn what we should avoid in order not to fall out of God's favor as Solomon did.

In the book of Solomon, we have lessons that could enrich our walk with God. We also catch a revelation of Christ's dealings with His church which you, uncircumcised in the heart can never see.

gaskiyamagana:
You are free to help your friend in futility efforts of misinformation about Islam, on questions l threw to him above, which he has been avoiding or rebooting on.

Refer me to the questions. I'm sure he's not avoiding the questions either. There's no hidden thing about the Bible. The Bible is plain.

gaskiyamagana:
Moon light tale of your moroness and explicit holy porn of SONGS OF SOLOMON in the Bible, which is which?

I just pity you. You can keep wallowing in your deception since you love the lies so much.

Allah turned Jews into monkey... Hahahaha. If you're in your right thinking, you'll research to find out the confirmation of such imbecilic story, but since you love lies, far be it from you.

LegalWolf:
Lol! Why did you avoid the question about your God being able to salvage his family and ethnic group like plague? A whole god ooooo


Cc: Future thief TenQ

You have not asked me any question. Have you? If I missed your question, you can refer me to it.

TenQ:
If Your Allah isn't satan, why did he turn Jews into Monkeys for fishing on Saturday when he was the one who prevented fishes from surfacing during the week but only on saturday?

Tafsir ibn kathir Quran (7:163)
(And indeed you knew). This Ayah means, O Jews! Remember that Allah sent His torment on the village that disobeyed Him and broke their pledge and their covenant to observe the sanctity of the Sabbath. They began using deceitful means to avoid honoring the Sabbath by placing nets, ropes and artificial pools of water for the purpose of fishing before the Sabbath. When the fish came in abundance on Saturday as usual, they were caught in the ropes and nets for the rest of Saturday. During the night, the Jews collected the fish after the Sabbath ended. When they did that, Allah changed them from humans into monkeys, the animals having the form closest to humans. Their evil deeds and deceit appeared lawful on the surface, but they were in reality wicked. This is why their punishment was compatible with their crime. This story is explained in detail in Surat Al-A`raf, where Allah said:
(And ask them (O Muhammad ) about the town that was by the sea; when they transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath (i.e. Saturday): when their fish came to them openly on the Sabbath day, and did not come to them on the day they had no Sabbath. Thus We made a trial of them, for they used to rebel (disobey Allah).)
(We said to them: "Be you monkeys, despised and rejected" means, "Allah changed their bodies into those of monkeys and swines. The young people turned into monkeys while the old people turned into swine." Shayban An-Nahwi reported that Qatadah commented on,

Chaii. This is the moonlight tale legalwolf and his likes are regarding as the words of God. This is pitiable.

LegalWolf:
Hey FxMasterz

Did you not claim that King David, Solomon and the likes never heard the word Samaritan before? Without any explicit proof?

And you expect me to be engaging an hopelessly, adamantly and ignorant fella? Ehn? Humour me please 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cc: potential theif TenQ ooooo

The more you post, the more you display your ignorance. Why not read up on the texts TenQ referred you to? Do your soul some good, even if it would be for once.

[quote author=TenQ post=123427796]Ask LegalWolf to ask ChatGPT if the Samaritans existed at the time of Moses: he will dodge you like a plague.
They hate the truth with a passion: anything that would make Islam look good is welcome!
SMH![quote]Their loyalty is to Islam. Their souls have no value to them. They do not care.

TenQ:
LegalWolf has not left Nairaland.
He rarely comments now as his gra-gra has been met with so many shameful informations about Mohammed, Allah, the Quran and the religion of Islam that he cannot refute without looking stupid.

His usual strategy of occupying space by writing unrelated and uncoordinated spams is painfully obvious to both Muslims and Christians: the Muslims who want an answer are put off as they are not helped by his meaningless rhetorics.

I guess some people wiser than him advised him to keep quiet as silence is sometimes golden.

For the others, they find it strange that Christians are finding information with undeniable proofs against their esteemed religion. Some ot the topics need no further debate as it is a losing battle.

Hahahah.

I always laugh when I see his comedic posts as he dances about on your threads making no meaningful contribution except to be hurling insults and be embellishing your Monika in the most shameful manner.

TenQ:
Unfortunately, you don't know that Northern Israel was also known as Samaria, or Ephraim or the northern kingdom
after the United Israel was divided into TWO kingdoms in the days of Solomon's Son Rehoboam. The Northern kingdom consist of 10 tribes of Israel while the southern kingdom consisted of just two tribes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehoboam
2 Chronicles 10–12,
1 Kings 12 and
1 Kings 14:21-31

Read up if you like: SMH!

No shame!

He won't listen. He's satisfied with the lies he's being fed with. To him, Mohammed knows Israel better than the Israelites themselves. SMH.

LegalWolf:
Lol! Look at the adamantly dull fella that claimed the Samaritans are not existing is even having the audacity to talk… or are you not the one who claimed the above?

Keep deceiving yourself. I even thought you left Nairaland. I just pray that one day, your eyes would open. And if you love deception this much, ignore all the red flags and embrace the same destination that Mohammed has outlined for you.

Jackanda1:
God doesn't exist, yet your username says that youre an enemy of God.

The fact that you spend so much time opposing someone who doesn't exist, shows that there is something wrong with you.

Lolz.

That guy is a fool.

Hotwest:
See how Osun is looking! Brown brown rusted zinc roof everywhere...This is the typical yoruba settings we know! But most of the people from there even their principal who forced his way into the government will be claiming lagos lagos lagos. Lagos that is a former capital and a state collectively built by all! Make all these online guys dey try use state like osun,oyo,ekiti to compare our states from the south south and south east and see if port harcourt, enugu, akwa ibom, imo no go beat una hands down! Hausa peeps you cant see them boasting of Abuja because they know the place was developed from Federal Government money and owned by all!!!! they know their gombe,nasarawa and the rest are still on the low.

So, in your warped thinking, those pictures depict the whole of Osun State? It shows your thinking faculty has a very acute defect.

Those places in the images are ancient Yoruba towns. Most of those houses are more than 100yrs old. The major inhabitants are very aged people.

All the while your own grandparents were living inside bush, those were the Yoruba cities of ancient times.

TenQ:
You'll note that all these your friends gra-gra has reduced on Nairaland. It is difficult fighting against the truth when good EVIDENCES are attached.

What better evidence can one use against Islam? The Qur'an, the Tafsirs, the Hadiths and Books from their Scholars.

Good cannot be defended with lies as it is not necessary! Unfortunately, Islam has to be defended with lies to stand!

Yes, I noticed that they've mellowed down for some weeks now. I'm even begining to think that legalwolf has left Nairaland.

They should just have their own individual reflections and open themselves up to truth. Loyalty to a religion is useless. No religion saves, including Christianity. The only Person who saves is Jesus.

They should look away from religion and find Jesus because Jesus is always eager to manifest Himself to those who seek Him. Mohammed on the other hand is dead. His fate is eternally sealed. No amount of PBUH that Muslims send to him on a daily basis can save him. He was migthily used of Satan to send many people to hell. And those people went gladly until they came face to face with reality in the hereafter.

TenQ:
I agree with you. They don't want the Muslim or the reader to be able to do an independent search so that he is fixated on other things than the original question causing the problem.

You will also note that when they translate their Tafsirs, sometimes they just truncate a large part of the discuss to present only the agreeable part.


Most of their problematic books also have not being translated into English.


Indeed, Islam is a religion based on deception. They DECEIVE themselves just as the try to DECEIVE others

Hmmmmmm. The bolded is weighty.

Yet, people like antichristian, legalwolf, drlateef, etc are earnestly praying to die as Muslims in spite of this obvious deception.

TenQ:
I noticed two things with refutations by Muslims dawahrists. It is usually very long with several unrelated matters to the argument inserted just to make it impossible to read up and confuse the readers.

Secondly, the offending Hadiths are not quoted but every other hadith (many times without traceable references) would be quoted.

It may not apply to all but this is my observation for now

I can relate with your second observation. I encountered it while searching for a quranic verse online where Allah was swearing with the moon. Only few links came up. None of them contained the actual verse. The entire articles were spurious explanations muddled up with several unrelated verses without referencing any.

The most annoying thing is that, rather than quote the verse, the refer to it by its name. Seems, some of those verses have names they call them. So, if you're not a Muslim, you'll be totally lost as regarding the argument.

A very organized and well calculated method of deception.

TenQ:
You think they want to hear the truth?

They have succeeded to make Mohammed Assistant-Allah by the way they rever him.

They don't realise that they have made Mohammed equal or at par with Allah in knowledge when the say:
"Allah and his messanger know best!"

In this case Mohammed himself says his Aorta is being cut (according to the curse of Allah) BUT Muslims say he died a natural death.

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They should keep deceiving themselves.

AntiChristian:
This falsehood is from one of David Wood's video!

1. Al-Wateen used in the Qur'an verse is not the same as Al-Abhar used in the Hadiths! Both were translated as Aorta

In reality, Abhar is a vein that originates from the head and extends to the feet. When the vein extents to the back it is called Al-wateen. So in essense, Al-Wateen is part of Al-Abhar.

When a person's aorta is cut off the person dies immediately! But that Qur'an verse you claimed was not the last verse that was revealed to the Prophet. More so in Qur'an 5:70, Jews were refered to as usually killing the Prophets sent to them!

Even when the Prophet was poisoned he still lived for a few years.

So as usual, you watch David wood and come here to rant!



Whoever needs to can watch David Wood's video and the refutation on it by visiting the site below!
No need to argue on this guy's misguidance. The video have been extensively and logically debunked by our brother, may Allah grant him and us all Taofeeq and Istiqama!
https://www.call-to-monotheism.com/prophet_muhammad__peace_be_upon_him__and_the_taking_of_poison

That means it wasn't the poison that killed him. He died because his aorta was cut according to his own personal confession.

TenQ is absolutely correct.

TenQ:
I wonder what they'll do when on the day of judgement they discover that the whole of Islam is Taqqiya!

SMH. Why must anyone tell lies to defend his god?

TenQ:
Every Time, they have to invent lies to cover up what has been written in their own books by their own trusted scholars.

Their lies are accepted by their fake god. So, they do it with joy.

Ignorant fellows.

TenQ:
I sometimes wonder if I should just make claims without giving evidences so that they can jump about like monkeys while one by one they are decimated by the truth.

Of course, I use this method for the sake of those who are content to just read the first page of a post without even making any contribution.

Their new argument is to say that since Mohammed didn't die immediately, it wasn't the poisoned Lamb that killed him.

Even still, the focus is not on what killed him. The focus is on the fact that he himself confessed that his aorta was cut off. Whatever cut off his aorta doesn't matter. The cutting off of his aorta indicates that he's a false prophet as stated by his own Allah.

DCmaverick:
I was going through a dating app looking for girls around me to hookup with, all of a sudden i saw my pastor there. I jus couldn't believe it cus he is a man of God and he is happily married . So i dnt knw what he is doing there or is he preaching the gospel to all those unbelievers there

If your pastors photo is available online, someone may upload it as his own photo just because he doesn't want to show his own face. Your pastor may not even know that someone is using his picture. People do this a lot.

okrote4real:
...to storm EFCC, ICPC, DSS, CCB, Immigration

Over 10,000 Civil Society Organizations, CSOs, under the auspices of Coalition of Civil Society Group, CCSGs, disclosed embarking on an anti-Emefiele rally calling on the sack of Godwin Emefiele as Governor of Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, over alleged corrupt practices and high level of incompetence.

The President of Civil Society Groups, Etuk Bassey Williams, made this known in a statement signed by himself, and Williams explained that the over 10,000 CSOs under the Coalition are set for the rally and they will hold the rally simultaneously across the country to press for the sack of Emefiele.

According to him, the time is due for Emefiele to be sacked over his failure to salvage the economy.

He said: "Nigerians cannot be taken for ride anymore and we as a people who understand his many administrative flaws cannot allow such person to drive Nigeria's monetary policies. The Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria, CBN, Mr Godwin Emefiele, has been a man who presents himself a saint and make people believe he is working hard to transform the economy but it is a far cry.

"Emefiele has done more harm than good to the Nigerian economy, under him the economy has sunk down despite his unproductive policies that are not impacting Nigerians positively.

"Under him, the Naira has nosedived and seriously depreciated, therefore stifling the business ventures while some have left the shores of the country and other fold up.

"The economy had it so bad under Emefiele, the unemployment rate is so high that he cannot proffer solutions, hence the high level of 'japa' of young Nigerians. Under his two terms in office thousands of Nigerians have departed the shores of Nigeria to Canada, America, United Kingdom, Australia, South Africa, Ghana, Sudan, Egypt, Italy, China, Russia, and other countries legally and illegally for survival and settlement.

"The crimie rate has also increased because the Emefiele leadership has not been able to come up with youth based policies that would keep young people from leaving the country or indulge in all forms of criminality including ritual killing.

"The Naira redesign introduced by Emefiele brought untold hardship on Nigerians, which many lives were lost, many businesses collapsed, investors couldn't come in, inflation became worse, and the Naira went flat, and there was no human feelings despite appeals from Nigerians to suspend the policy until he was sued by some governors at the Supreme Court, eventually the Naira redesign policy has been an abysmal failure.

"Unnecessarily, Emefiele spent money and money of taxpayers on a failed policy that didn't add any socio-economic impact on Nigerians but excruciating pains."

"The corruption at the CBN has been monumental but seriously covered up. There are evidences to prove these corrupt practices under the watch of Emefiele."

"There are so many flaws in his personality and the way he approaches issues but we as a Coalition across the six geopolitical zones, we are going to hold this mother of all rallies across the 36 States of the federation and 774 local government areas and the Federal Capital Territory, FCT, for the world to know who Emefiele is and the monumental corruption that has taken place under his watch for two tenures.

"This rally will expose whatever he has been doing damage control over these years. We will surprise the world about him, and we will ensure his arrest and prosecution."

Meanwhile, he (Williams) also disclosed that the Civil Society Groups will storm the National office of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC, Independent Corrupt Practices Commission, ICPC, Department of State Security, DSS, Code of Conduct Bureau, CCB, Nigerian Immigration Service, NIS, and embassies to let their demands known.

He also alleged that, "A source has reliably informed us that Emefiele is seriously lobbying the Tinubu's camp so as to evade arrest and prosecution but he rather pray for a soft landing which is to honorably resign from office.

"But we will ensure Emefiele is arrested and prosecuted, there will be no soft landing because justice must prevail in the interest of Nigerians."

Emefiele is a mad man.

He's responsible for the economic crises that currently bedevils the nation. All his policies were anti-people. He made Forex scarce and made our debit and credit cards useless for international transactions. Importation of goods that could be done with ease using your bank cards are no longer possible. This has given rise to many fintechs who provide virtual cards and Forex at Black market rates. Prices of imported goods skyrocketed. Inflation increased. Naira is on a free fall. The common man suffered. Meanwhile Emefiele was secretly enriching himself.

The guy is so wicked. He enriched himself so much that he could buy an enormous fleet of branded campaign vehicles which he never used. When he wanted to celebrate his birthday in 2021, he moved the celebration to Jamaica where he spent billions of dollars just to celebrate his birthday.

The man is a devil. Meanwhile, Buhari knows all these atrocities of this mad man, yet he chose to look the other way. Why? Your guess is as good as mine.

AntiChristian:
God can change his mind but not His personality! Which Bible verse says this?

Hebrew 13:8, Malachi 3:6, James 1:17, Numbers 23:19, Isaiah 40:8 & 40:28, Psalm 102:25-27 & 119:89 & 33:11, 2 Timothy 2:13, etc. Which specifically can you quote in your narration below?

All those Bible verses say so. You're the one misinterpreting scripture. When the Bible says God doesn't change. The focus is on His nature, not on His mind. It is part of His nature to change His mind when a sinner repents or when a righteous man turns to evil. His unchangeable nature is depicted throughout all scripture. The instances of God changing His mind on many issues also could be seen in scripture from Genesis to Revelation. Stop misinterpreting scriptures and dabbling into things you know virtually nothing about.

AntiChristian:
But same God said he does not change many times!

Even the writer of Hebrew said Jesus does not change!

What a contradiction!

God can change His mind but His personality doesn't change. God's personality has been consistent. Let me mention a few:

1. He hates sin with passion. He still does till today.

2. God will change his mind towards you if you turn from good to evil or from evil to good. He still does that till today.

3. God will always fulfil His promises. He never breaks a promise except the beneficiary fails to keep his own end of the terms. He's still like that till today.

4. God does not hasten to execute judgement on sinners. He waits a long time for them to repent before bringing judgement on them. He has not changed till today.

5. God loves mankind so much. The salvation of man is God's heartbeat. Everything God does, He does it because of man. He has never changed. He's still like that till today.

6. God hates false witnesses. He doesn't take such sins lightly. He's still like that till today.

7. God hates murderers. He's still like that till today.

8. God is extremely merciful and forgiving. No matter what you've done, if you repent, He'll forgive you and reduce your punishment. Sometimes, He would even exonerate you completely. He's still like that till today.

9. God does not share His glory with any man or anyone in the universe. His glory is due Him alone. If you share His glory, He'll withdraw His Presence from you. He has not changed. He's still like that till today.

10. God would not force Himself on man or overrule man's freewill to have His way with man. After telling man what His will is, He allows man to do according to His choices, but for every action of man, He'll bring man to judgement at the time appointed. He's still like that till today. He never changes.

I think you lack the understanding of the unchangeable nature of God.

iSense247:
Evangelist Ibrahim Dikko

Only Jesus saves.

If Muslims can open their eyes, They'll find this to be true even in their Quran.