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Dialpad:
This is a good move, I know many are waiting to hear news of when we can start spending dollars on our naira cards.

How can one have millions in a naira account but can't spend when you travel out, some lunatic tells me I can only spend $100 monthly.

If you are waiting to spend dollars on your naira card, click the like button.... lol

Re-introduction of the "Willing Buyer, Willing Seller model at the I&E Window. Operations in this window shall be guided by the extant circular on the establishment of the window, dated 21 April 2017 and referenced FMD/DIR/CIR/GEN/08/007. All eligible transactions are permitted to access foreign exchange at this window.

I think this should transmit to unlimited dollar transactions on our bank cards.

Ogene001:
Stop talking rubbish. Igbos are on course to find alternative energy to reduce sufferings. Your people are busy worshipping Dangote the crook who commissioned refinery that is not working and looking for import Monopoly. He will see tough competition from us

It's alright. Kudos to you.

Ogene001:
Come and tell us how Biodun was also responsible for Innoson CNG vehicles. All the government institutions filled with yorubas and Hausa can't come up with anything innovative. Independent body headed by Igbo lead the way and you still want to drag.

I think you're an irredeemable tribalist. Okonkwo being the head of IPMAN may not even be the source of the CNG idea. Tinubu met with IPMAN last week. After the meeting, IPMAN issued a statement that they'll force down the price of petrol. The details of the meeting was not disclosed but we all know that before the meeting, IPMAN was even planning a strike to protest subsidy removal.

Your comment was based on IPMAN but even if you'll talk about Innoson, are Igbos the only people in that company? Is it only Innoson vehicles that'll be running on CNG?

Tribalism is such a menace.

Ogene001:
You want to stop tribalism but you had to mention Biodun Lawal. See your life? Efforts to provide alternative energy through CNG is spearheaded by Igbos. Your people are busy worshipping Dangote and Tinubu the scammers

I mentioned Biodun Lawal in case you might be thinking that IPMAN is all about Igbos. The CNG project is spearheaded by IPMAN, Okonkwo is involved only because he's the national president. Tribalism wouldn't let you see that. You're giving the glory to Igbo simply because the president is Igbo. Who would take the glory if the president had been Hausa? IPMAN comprises stakeholders from every tribe in Nigeria. Do not be tribalistic. Let's unite and shun tribal bigotry.

TenQ:
Your natural body is your biological or physical body

Your spiritual body is your non biological body visible in the spiritual realm as you the same way how Angels are visible to themselves in the spiritual realm.

Mikel99, what he's telling you is that your physical body is visible on earth in the physical realm. In the spirit realm, your spiritual body is the one visible.

That's better explained practically in terms of dreams. When you dream, your physical body is sleeping on your bed in your room but your spiritual body is moving about and having different experiences in your dream.

KEVIND:
Another Igbo man Elder Chinedu Okoronkwo to the rescue.
Stop the envy, hate & jealousy. an Igbo man is not your problems. What an average Igbo man want is a progressive govt that cares for all irrespective of party affiliation & considerations.

So IPMAN and even Biodun Lawal are Igbos? Let's stop this tribalism thing and see ourselves as one indivisible nation.

milkymesh:
In recent times, I am having a second thought on things I read and believed in the bible.

I have never read a place in the bible where the devil killed someone without Gods permission.
1. He killed Jobs ten sons with God's permission.
Why did some innocent young guys just die because two powerful being placed a bet. Why place bet with peoples life?

2. God killed first born of Egypt, even animals where not spared. Even first born infants, babies, and children where murdered. Why visit adult sins on innocent children. Imagine sentencing a man child to dead because his father is an armed robber. is that just.

3. Book haram who kill people because they don't believe in their brand of Islam is branded as terrorist. Now God told the Israelite to killed the Canaanites because they belong to another religion. A whole tribe was murdered in many cases. What do we call that in modern times. Imagine if all Igbo's are murdered because they are not Muslim. What do we call that in modern times.

4. Elijah(or is it Elisha?) ordered a bear to kill some little boys because they where making jest of him. Why not simply correct them. Is killing them a just punishment for making jest of someone? As a little school boy, I made caricature of some disabled people then and I am sure most of us did or still do that. Should the state make such a capital offence, will you support it?

I can go on and on. I am beginning to doubt many stories in the bible.
What are your views?

Every country has laws that say "thou shall not kill." The same countries sentence people to die by firing squad and by hanging. Why are they contradicting themselves?

God is Judge. The earlier you know that, the better.

MightySparrow:
Antichristian, this one tie wrapper





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH3nz0uIONo

He'll pretend to not to see, while earnestly urging the mods in secret to pull down your thread. They hate truth like more than anything else.

Please make a written summary of the video content. Most Nairlanders won't watch the video.

millionboi2:
you are becoming worst than his boss,ppl have different temperament,he could be a weakling here,but stronger in another thing so calm down.

You see, the Yoruba have a saying, "O lowo, o logun, oju e o tun pọn.' Meaning, you are not rich, you don't have charm, and again, you don't have red eyes. You will surely suffer in this wicked world.

Man, I was once like him. People thought me lessons. Now, I'm wiser. I need to address him that way because that's the only way I can wake him up. I woke up too. He and I have the same temperament.

Tryagain77:
You could have done that without negative labeling.

He didn't label you. He simply called a spade a spade.

Truly speaking, you're very dull, foolish and stupid. You passed through school but school didn't pass through you. Your parents should be ashamed of a son like yourself.

Sucre6:
You don't know me, so don't make comparison, a man assaulted you to dehumanization, you are still here defending rubbish upon all your effort he still treats you like a street dog and withhold your salary and taking his property that worth equal your salary is not constitutional and going against the law, but he dehumanizing you and holding your salary isn't,

Omo, I don't like weak ass men 😒😒😒

If he reports you before you report him, forget anything he's done to you, you'll be the one to be jailed. First report him and let the police do their job. Don't take action that would take you to prison while you're the one being cheated.

obyno82:
If you believe this man was funding unknown gunmen and bandits them I am sorry to say that these people have done a number on your brain.

And if you believe this man can't do that, then the man has done a number on your brain.

I'm still on the speculation mode, given the atrocities he deliberately committed against the Nigerian economy. Perhaps, you're unaware of dangerous economic policies he kept rolling out almost every other week especially in 2021. Policies that were clearly anti-peoole.

tishbite42:
Doubling down on your stupidity after a sensible person corrected you shows your level of reasoning.
Emefiele is an Igbo man and we are watching with keen interest.

You're really stupid for that comment.

I appreciated the correction and explained why I drew the inference. Only an slowpoke would respond the way you did. You must be really stupid

obyno82:
My guy I would advice you not to say things that would land you into trouble. Watch your tongue don't be lousy in your speech. If you are asked to go to court and come up with evidence that he wanted to enable Biafra by weakening the naira can you do it? Not everything is for content, if you say what will nail you, your so called paymasters will deny you when shit hits the fan.

Thanks for the advice. I'm simply drawing inferences from his actions because I can't understand how a competent man like him refused to show his competence when he got to handle national economic affairs. His policies were so daft that even a primary school dropout could easily predict the impending disaster. Then, he was said to be funding IPOB, ESN, Unknown Gunmen and Bandits. Why would he do that? Just connecting the dots.

obyno82:
How was he caught? Someone who was in his house. They claimed he was bungled to the plane in his PJs, but the video showed him in a Native attire. Make una no fall for this media deceit abeg.

The DSS have wanted to arrest him since Buhari days. It was General Irabor that shielded him. Infact, he gave him soldiers to fiend off the DSS.

Emefiele is a crook. He has accomplices too. During trial, he would mention them, and they too would be tried. Let's see how it goes.

The state of the economy today was due to his deliberate attempt to weaken Nigeria and empower Biafra. He's too competent a man on his job. His supposed failure were deliberate actions. He's also accused of terrorism financing. Let him go and defend himself. All others like him would not be spared. Let's keep watching as events unfold.

Guyman01:
While not holding forth for Emefiele but it seems many Nigerians outside Yorubas are not moved by this media trial, Hadi Sirika that used over a hundred billion to paint an Ethiopia aircraft and bought Fire Trucks for N1B each is walking free, Malami that awarded website contracts worth Billions to himself is not been harassed, Buhari the Petroleum Minister his boss that looted subsidy money and incurred debt of N77trn is relaxing in Daura and Yoruba media is trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill by harassing the man who simply implemented Buhari monetary policies.

We are not deceived by this act of cowardice against a Delta man who served as errand boy and gloating by Yorubas as if we have won the world cup while Fulani elites who looted the country with unquantifiable nepotism in the past 8 years walk freely and Kwankwaso is in Aso Villa to negotiate ministerial appointments for them.

Eltufiakwa under whose watch thousands were massacred in Southern Kaduna is still busy making inflammatory statements and no one has invited him like the Fulanis did to Sunday Igboho for questioning the killings of Yorubas by Fulani herdsmen because una dey fear them, na for Igbos and South South minorities una dey get mouth.

Even Yakubu Mahmud collected N300b and couldn't transmit election results as he promised, imagine if Mahmud was an Urhobo man, you guys would have rubbished him like you did to Diezani?
Nonsense and ingredients!

Too early to draw conclusions. The first axe has landed. No one knows who's next. Or do you expect them to be rounded up at once?

Emefiele himself wouldn't have been arrested so soon if not that he was caught trying to escape.

Tinubu never ordered his arrest. He only ordered his suspension, and you and I know that indeed that man is a crook.

Wilgrea7:
You're confusing me. You say you're not talking about morality, but instead universally accepted moral laws, which are still under the subject of morality.

Or is there an alternative definition I'm not seeing here.

No. We're particular about the unwritten laws. Not the acts.

LordReed:
What is universal morality?

Universally accepted moral laws is what we're discussing.

Wilgrea7:
If you say so. I've already told you there's no difference between accepting for the sake of discussion and accepting for real, as both situations would start from the exact same premise. But if you say so, then okay.



If you're talking about morality regardless of religion, then of what use is the existence of god in the discussion?

If you're trying to prove the source of morality, then by all means go ahead. But so far I'm yet to see you try.

Your position seems to be (and correct me if I'm wrong), that morality is more or less ingrained in us as humans. Why? Because a god made it so. All the while failing to prove said god.

It would be akin to me saying we have ingrained morality because our digital overlords in the simulation programmed us like that, or because there is an undiscovered element in human brains that make us moral.

Without any proof, the claim remains a claim. You can argue for a source of morality. But the moment you begin to describe the attributes of this source, you need to provide evidence. And so far, you've provided none.

And I've told you that I can't discuss anything just for argument sake. I don't have such time.

Please, I'm not talking about morality but universally accepted moral laws. Nothing you said up there addresses the issue

LordReed:
The same universal morality that accepted slavery at some point then said slavery was bad at another?

Please research about the topic. Slavery does not count as universal morality.

greatestdestiny:
Hmm. The word God is indeed proven true according to the books of proverbs .. Because the same scriptures said, the wicked flees when no man pursues him. Else where tmwas he running to? ..

Jokes apart, Emefiele is a rogue! Let us leave tribe sentiments out of our disposition on his evil reign. It got to a point that some people withdrew N10,000 with N10,000 under a man that supposed a product of Zenith bank. That means Zenith Bank na packaging. Bloody nonsense!

Believe me, Emefiele is very good on his job. He took Zenith Bank to heights. What he did as CBN governor was to deliberately crumble Nigeria while empowering IPOB, ESN and Bandits. The man created wealth for himself and his friends using very frivolous policies that were deliberately crafted to induce hardship.

Wilgrea7:
The thread tries to talk about morality from the perspective of an atheist, but it talks about morality nonetheless.



You're shooting yourself in the foot more than you realize. You just talked about "universally accepted moral laws", in a world with different religions, and gods, and lack thereof too. So you're indirectly making reference to a sort of morality that exists regardless of the belief in a god.




Again, when i talk of the moral dilemma, i'm talking about something different. It was explained on my other thread, but for the sake of not wanting to derail this one, I'll let it go for now.



Accept what position as truth? That an unproven god exists? How does that help our discussion? I've already said for the sake of argument, I'll accept that a god exists. I'll even take it further. For the sake of this discussion, I will assume that a single creator deity exists. So not polytheistic, but monotheistic.

By accepting this premise, it means we won't be running into any of the problems associated with a disbelief in this god. You'd be proving to me that your god is indeed the creator the same way you'd be proving to a deist or someone else who accepts the concept of a god, but is unsure of which one.

So once again, go ahead

If you don't accept that a God exists, there's no point discussing who's the true God.

Universal morality is not based on religion, culture or traditions. I believe you're pretending not to understand. What has the subject to do with multiplicity of gods or religions or the lack of ir? Humans generally know certain things are right or wrong without recourse to any written law. That's what we're talking about.

DuchessAmanda:
So what's the full name of the original one on their App?

Just type binance. com and be sure that you're on binance. com. Download the app from there. Any other website aside Binance. Com is fake.

Maynmann:
How did i give a personalized answer?
What words did i use that you didn’t use and more?
I hate people that can’t take what they dish out, i was only making an example, how you suddenly got offended by it after you have done the same to me countless times is amazing.

The bible means collection of books.
We have the christian bible called New Testament and the Old Testament that belongs to judaism and it’s called Tanakh.

You can’t argue facts, if you can present your facts about the “bible” then why would i argue?

Exposing Yahweh the isrealite god is easssyyy.

See the screenshot below. See what I said before you answered that "If my son..."

And actually, I'm not offended. I only rejected the personalization. And, truly, I'm not interested in dragging endless arguments.

Maynmann:
The Old Testament was originally written in old hebrew. And in Hebrew EVIL – RA רע , the isiah verse is talking about evil.

I never said your son can kill someone, the same way you never said my son will be an armed robber abi, are they not examples?

You said this whole thing but you can’t take what you dish out?
“ When you said you would help your son first, you should have looked at all the possible things a wayward child might do to warrant his father's help. And you should have known that issues are in categories (the waywardness of a child as well as the calamities that may eventually befall him). You should have weighed matters well before making that comment. I didn't change anything because I didn't paint any previous scenario. I painted that robber child scenario to help you see the danger in your stance.”

You were the one who gave a personalized answer to a scenario I painted. I never directed words at you or your son. I'm not going into any further argument about this.

And also I wouldn't argue the Bible with you because it would end fruitlessly. Neither you nor I would agree to anything. So, let it rest.

Maynmann:
I said I would help my first son before giving him conditions.
You said you will help your son after he accepts your conditions.
So if your son kills someone and he accepts your condition, how will you rescue him?


Hebrew is not a scripture, it’s a language, the tanakh was written in old hebrew.
In hebrew ra means evil, and there are many christs in Old Testament that’s why the jews reject your Iesus chrestus.

I never said Hebrew is a scripture please. When I say English scripture or Hebrew scripture, I'm referring to the Bible with regards to a particular language.

My Son can never kill someone. It's not possible. So, I wouldn't be dragged into such a discussion.

mariovito:
These guys just like to set us back.

First you ban crypto, how did you expect them to get your so called license?

Anyway, now that the ban on crypto has been lifted, I believe Binance will do the needful and regularize their position.

Binance Nigeria limited is not the original Binance please. It's a scam site immitating Binance to defraud. The reporter is a demented fellow who can't present reports with clarity.

Maynmann:
All i said is i will help my son FIRST before giving him conditions, then you change it to a criminal that stole.
What conditions are you going to give your son before you rescue him as a criminal?
No one wants to see his children die, but if your son kills someone and is sentenced to death, you better be ready to watch your son sentenced to death if the judges says so, and no matter the conditions you give him it won’t matter.

You are contradicting yourself.
If i need to meet those conditions before getting a miracle, why then is a pastor needed, what’s the use of the pastor permission to have authority and power 😂

What’s the Hebrew word for evil in that statement?
Evil is Masoretic רַע (ra).
You can also see it in isiah 5:20, is that one also talking “calamity”.

Talking about hebrew, do you know cyprus is a christ, what’s christ in Hebrew.

Yahweh worshipper lol

When you said you would help your son first, you should have looked at all the possible things a wayward child might do to warrant his father's help. And you should have known that issues are in categories (the waywardness of a child as well as the calamities that may eventually befall him). You should have weighed matters well before making that comment. I didn't change anything because I didn't paint any previous scenario. I painted that robber child scenario to help you see the danger in your stance.

I wouldn't make any reversal into the pastor/condition/authority talk anymore. I've spoken at length on that topic. Please refer to our previous discourse for any answers you may seek.

Regarding the Hebrew texts and the Christ you're talking about, I would not go this far with you. I don't discuss scriptures just for argument sake. I've clarified positions upon positions already, and answered several questions. We can't be arguing endlessly on Nairaland as we have other things to do with time. God bless you.

Maynmann:
Releasing a criminal is never good, no loving father will say that a criminal should be released after it “suffered small”, that is not fairness.
All criminals should face the same sentence.
Your fatherly principle is good for you alone.

What’s calamity in hebrew.
From the place you copied from, talking about context.

Isaiah 45:13-14 NRSV

13 "I have aroused Cyrus in righteousness, and I will make all his paths straight; he shall build my city and set my exiles free, not for price or reward, says the Lord of hosts. 14 Thus says the Lord: The wealth of Egypt and the merchandise of Ethiopia, and the Sabeans, tall of stature, shall come over to you and be yours, they shall follow you they shall come over in chains and bow down to you. They will make supplication to you, saying, “God is with you alone, and there is no other; there is no god besides him.”
Conclusion:

The meaning of Bringing Evil "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things..( KJV 47:7)

"I make peace" refers to the liberation of the Israelites from the Babylonian captivity and "create evil" refers to the just administration of justice on the Babylonians for their cruel treatment of the Israelites during their seventy years of captivity there.

Your stance about a criminal son is good. That's contradictory to your former stance, where you rush to help a child in trouble on the basis of love alone. However, allowing a child to suffer a little is what I've seen many fathers do. No one wants to watch his son sentenced to death no matter what he has done. I never said it's my principle, did I?

Regarding the Isaiah verse we were talking about, I only wanted you to read the Hebraic text and its literal renderings since I don't speak Hebrew myself. Any other thing discussed on the site is solely the opinion of the writer.

Maynmann:
If my son is in trouble, and I’m a loving father i will help my son first before giving him conditions.
Spanking your child won’t make him change.


Your god didn’t create everything, he didn’t create evil, the devil must have created it, so he doesn’t have dominion over everything and is not the most powerful.

Isiah 45:7– I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

Your fatherhood principle is only good to you but many father's don't buy your idea. A son who turns an armed robber and got arrested by police is an example. The father is powerful and can immediately order his release. I've seen cases without number where the father would say 'Let him suffer a little, so that he can learn.' Wise and loving fathers. Your fatherly principle is good for you alone. I have no problems with that.

Yes. Isaiah 45:7 is God Almighty speaking. The English translation is flawed. This is it in Hebrew:

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create calamity: I the LORD do all these things.

ז יוֹצֵר אוֹר וּבוֹרֵא חֹשֶׁךְ עֹשֶׂה שָׁלוֹם וּבוֹרֵא רָע אֲנִי יְהוָה עֹשֶׂה כָל-אֵלֶּה

Wilgrea7:
The thread is literally about morality



Vastly different analogy. That's not in any way similar to what i consider the 'moral problem'



What difference does it make? If I assume for the sake of the discussion that a god exists, how is it different from someone who truly believes? All premises held by the latter will be held by me. So feel free to go ahead with your proof.

If the thread is literally about morality, what's the point in addressing atheists alone? Is it not because they said there's no god? Then how comes the universally accepted moral laws that are not set by man? We're still talking about morality from the Atheists point of view.

The analogy isn't different because moral problems exist as well as crime problems. Both have laws to combat the problems. Laws from both sides were made. They're not self existent laws.

There's a difference in accepting my position merely for the sake of a discussion rather than accepting my position as truth because the former puts you only in an argumentative position with a close mind. That'll lead to useless and endless arguments. I have no time for such. The later puts you in a fact finding kind of argument that could lead profitably to a destination.

Maynmann:
If my son is in trouble, and I’m a loving father i will help my son first before giving him conditions.

Your god didn’t create evil, your god is not the Creator of all things.

Yes, it depends on the gravity of the child's offence and the type of help he needs. A loving father is more concerned about the aftermath of his help. Why do you think father's spank their children? Out of hatred? He wants him to change. If you are very much passionate about him turning a new leaf, you must make decisions only a father can make. It all depends on your priority as a father. Whether to give him temporary respite I his sorrowful state and allow him to back to his ways. (That's not love) or to give all round help that assists his current situation as well as his entire life.

My God is not the doer of all things in the universe. Humans do both good and bad things. Satan does only evil things. Demons do evil things. They're all doers. God created humans, Satan and demons who do the good and bad things. God is the Creator of all things.