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LordReed:
Man unexpectedly cured of HIV after stem cell transplant

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2506595-man-unexpectedly-cured-of-hiv-after-stem-cell-transplant/

Jaephoenix, FxMasterz

Nothing new. We have seen HIV cured by the power of God.

But let me behave like atheists do: the information is false. Those guys who wrote that piece need to have their brains checked for believing in some bullshit.

Hahaha. That feels atheistic, isn't it?

jaephoenix:
Lol 😆
So there are people who don't need god? I didn't know. I guess the bible verse where Jesus told yall to spread the gospel to the ends of the earth was a joke,or maybe u haven't read that verse too. Bro stop dodging and show the power of your god. You boasted some time ago that you prayed and Maynmann stopped posting on Nairaland (even though there's no evidence to that effect)
So bring in on bro.
About patient contacts, do you mean phone numbers,names,social media etc. You intend calling them personally?

It could be your own contact where I can drop a voice note that you could play for those who need prayers.

jaephoenix:
Obviously u can see I used paraphrase around the word God of atheism, meaning it is not real.
About your god proving himself, it seems yall christians don't read your bible cos you're the second christian I'm showing this verse about yhwh flexing his muscle....
If you can't read the book your belief is based off,why then engage atheists?

1 Kings 18:18-40
18 “I have not made trouble for Israel,” Elijah replied. “But you and your father’s family have. You have abandoned the Lord’s commands and have followed the Baals. 19 Now summon the people from all over Israel to meet me on Mount Carmel. And bring the four hundred and fifty prophets of Baal and the four hundred prophets of Asherah, who eat at Jezebel’s table.”

20 So Ahab sent word throughout all Israel and assembled the prophets on Mount Carmel. 21 Elijah went before the people and said, “How long will you waver between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him.”

But the people said nothing.

22 Then Elijah said to them, “I am the only one of the Lord’s prophets left, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets. 23 Get two bulls for us. Let Baal’s prophets choose one for themselves, and let them cut it into pieces and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. 24 Then you call on the name of your god, and I will call on the name of the Lord. The god who answers by fire—he is God.”

Then all the people said, “What you say is good.”

25 Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire.” 26 So they took the bull given them and prepared it.

Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. “Baal, answer us!” they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made.

27 At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.” 28 So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. 29 Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.

30 Then Elijah said to all the people, “Come here to me.” They came to him, and he repaired the altar of the Lord, which had been torn down. 31 Elijah took twelve stones, one for each of the tribes descended from Jacob, to whom the word of the Lord had come, saying, “Your name shall be Israel.” 32 With the stones he built an altar in the name of the Lord, and he dug a trench around it large enough to hold two seahs[a] of seed. 33 He arranged the wood, cut the bull into pieces and laid it on the wood. Then he said to them, “Fill four large jars with water and pour it on the offering and on the wood.”

34 “Do it again,” he said, and they did it again.

“Do it a third time,” he ordered, and they did it the third time. 35 The water ran down around the altar and even filled the trench.

36 At the time of sacrifice, the prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed: “Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, let it be known today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things at your command. 37 Answer me, Lord, answer me, so these people will know that you, Lord, are God, and that you are turning their hearts back again.”

38 Then the fire of the Lord fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench.

39 When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried, “The Lord—he is God! The Lord—he is God!”

40 Then Elijah commanded them, “Seize the prophets of Baal. Don’t let anyone get away!” They seized them, and Elijah had them brought down to the Kishon Valley and slaughtered there.

I'm not here to argue with you.

Elijah had contact with the people whom he showed the power of God.

Everyone did.

Give me the necessary contacts. I will prove God to those who need God, not to a sorner. Elijah proved God to the Israelites who needed God, not to the prophets of Baal.

Let the fire fall.

jaephoenix:
He doesn't wanna prove anything to me but he proved to himself to Baal,Daagon and other gods in the bible? So he's afraid of the 'God of atheism'?
Btw,how can I stream/televise a prayer that I don't know where or when it's happening? Please help me out here

So, atheism has a. god. And the god is a capital G. That's good to know. I have always said it that Atheism itself is a religion.

God didn't prove Himself to Baal or to Dragon. Show me where He did that. God always prove Himself to His children who put their trust in Him.

I will have the contact of your patients after you have their consent to release it. I'll pray over the phone or send voice notes of prayers to them so that they can be healed. You can televise your actions if you so desire.

budaatum:
This is like asking me to issue a disclaimer whenever I write "praise god" or "inshallah", like I should expect people who've read my posts all these years to not know I'm an atheist.

But then, you ain't one of those. You did after all think buda was sonmyavina, lol. And you ain't got time to do your own research before coming to join the mob with a tyre and petrol and matches.

Dude, you don't see because you don't look, and I think you ain't even got eyes!

Hallelujah is a language. Insha Allah is a language. A manifesto is not. It's an identity. And when the manifestos use we, us and our, the poster identifies with them except a disclaimer was issued.

You know this. Please be honest.

budaatum:
Told you posting source for the Latin wouldn't make a difference to you. And I bet a disclaimer wouldn't neither.

You can't guilt trip me into accepting your position, Buda.

This is logically correct. A matching title does not disprove your membership since both members and non members could copy and paste the article for sharing. However, a non matching title which points to you using the symbolic language of the cult 100% written in your own words definitely establish membership without doubt.

Your lack of a disclaimer is a strong evidence against you because it inadvertently identifies you with the 'we', 'our' and 'us' of the article you shared.

jaephoenix:
You are comparing AI to what I was taught in medical school via thoroughly researched physiology texts? Where did I say that peristalsis is a rotation?
This AI output even says peristalsis is one directional
So how does vomiting occur? How do people that have Rumination Syndrome regurgitate food?

What the AI said is an established fact. Bring your medical sources that claim peristalsis can cause rotations in the body. At least that what was you claimed. You said doctors don't just allow it because they do not want the rotation to cause more harm such as perforations .

jaephoenix:
Elijah(abi Elisha) proved to the prophets of Baal that his god is the greatest. Other instances abound in your bible where Yhwh was flexing his muscles through his servants. Don't chicken out. I even want a physical challenge,televised on social media,where you can demonstrate how powerful your god is,and so hardened atheists like LordReed, HardMirror,kingsamx etc would bow down 😆
At least we won't have mouth to attack you again on Nairaland
How about that

Chicken out like how?

I will pray and something will happen. You can televise the prayer even when I pray remotely. I don't have to be there.

But as I have said, I'm not doing it to prove anything to you. Who are you by the way? The Almighty God would help those who trust Him - your patients. He has nothing to prove to an inconsequential being like you.

SpencerForbes:
I’m not here to defend budaatum but if we’re to judge clearly, there were signs it was copied and pasted because it had copyright signatures on it. For it to have copyright signature, the manifesto wasn’t written by budaatum. How she got it, I’m not sure but even as little as 10 years, I had read the Book of Mormon, doctrines and covenants, Catholic encyclopedia and even the mysterious power of psalms. So what if I write them on nairaland, does that makes me a member, no!

But I’m still doing my findings and if I find anything incriminating, I’ll do best to post it here.

Thanks for your contributions.

Budaatum has proven that he copied the title word for word. He didn't coin the latin title himself. He might not be a member.

You have also provided evidence that outsiders, i.e non members can share the manifesto contrary to what Triplechoice thought. Triplechoice har thought that only members of the confraternity could share official documents.

However, I still have a few doubts. That's on the issue of the disclaimer I raised previously. I don't see how a none member would publicly share a cult's manifesto without first issuing a disclaimer and an explanation as to why he is sharing the article.

A copyright disclosure points to ownership. By virtue of the copyright, the ownership of the publication is not a matter of contention. On the other hand, a disclaimer provides insights about the posters membership of the cult. A disclaimer is the missing substance in all of these. For example, if I'll share something from Jehovah witness or any organization to which I do not profess membership, I'll first issue a disclaimer similar to the following:

"Good day to all Nairalanders. I see the need to share the following article with anyone who cares to read because of the very valuable gems I found in the material. Even though I do not belong to this sect, neither do I support the organization in any way, I believe we can still benefit a few things from this article which we may individually apply profitably to our lives. Please read this article with caution and hold on only to that which is good. Thank you."

A disclaimer similar to the one above, if issued by Buda would have immediately dissociated him from the 'we', 'our' and 'us' of the article.

jaephoenix:
When I get to work today I'll get their permission to forward their contacts. I can't just give them to you cos of doctor patient confidentiality. And also how long would it take you to pray and when should we expect a miracle?

I'm going to pray within 24hrs of getting their contacts. I am the one to do the miracles. It's Jesus. I'm not doing this to prove anything to you. Please understand. I'm doing this because I want God to touch the patients as He has always done.

jaephoenix:
You know nothing about medicine. Peristalsis can turn it around but we don't take chances cos even though it can turn,it may also perforate the bowels. So we may as well intervene. It's just like a woman who has a contracted pelvis and is pregnant. Even though we know that the baby may still pass through alive but we don't wanna take chances cos it may die in the process. It's why you see these cretarded women giving testimonies that they delivered a baby through the vjay even though the doctor said otherwise and the lord brought the baby out. The ones that die from trying to give birth with prolonged labor due to contracted pelvis would of course not be alive to say anything

Are you truly or doctor or you're just lying to obscure the truth? Even those who didn't study medicine know that peristalsis is just push and squeeze. Not rotation!

See the attached.

triplechoice:
Here we go.

First thing first.

The title of the thread which contains the "Smoking,-gun evidence is:

https://www.nairaland.com/302215/manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis#4312040

"manifesto-positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis"

It is Latin

My analysis of this title

" Manifesto": A public declaration of policy and aims ( from Latin manifests,"clear, evident ')

"Positio": Position, thesis,or statement

"Fraternitatis": Of the Brotherhood (genitive case of fraternitas)

"Rosae Crucis" Of the Rosy Cross (genitive case of Rosa Crucis)

A literal and meaningful translation of the entire title would be: "Manifesto on the Position of the Rosicrucian Brotherhood", or "A statement of the Fraternity of the Rosy Cross"

Now, can an outsider Use this?

This is the critical question,and the answer strongly supports my accusation

It' is highly unlikely for an outsider to use it. A genuine outsider or casual "quoter" would almost certainly use a comom English title like, "The Rosicrucian Manifesto", or AMORC'ss Position ". The use of a full grammatically correct Latin title demonstrates a level of familiarity and intentionality that goes far beyond a neutral observer

What does the title signify?

It signals Affiliation and Esoteric knowledge.

Latin is the traditional language of Western esotericism, scholarship, and ritual. Using it is a deliberate signal of being "in the know", an insider,not an outsider.

By titling his thread this way,he wasn't just sharing information,he was framing it within the specific tradition and linguistic code of the group itself. This is an act of identification

The title of the thread functions as a Shibboleth. This is the use off language to distinguish members of one group from another. The Latin title used by Budaatum functions as a Shibboleth. It immediately signal to other members or knowledgeable individuals that the poster is operating within the esoteric tradition
Conversely, it might seem obscure or pretentious to a general audience, which is likely the point .

What can we draw from this?

As someone who almost join the group after reading their books and observing their members from very close quarters to the extent of visiting one of their leaders to have further discussion concerning the Order , I can tell everyone reading this with all certainty that the formal Latin title used by Buda in his thread was not the action of a neutral atheist "quoting", a group. It was the action of someone who identities with the group's tradition and was using its own formal, esoteric language to communicate

This directly contradicts his defense of being a detached observer and confirms his affiliation. He is deeply embedded in the group's culture and practices

To be continued. Let me have my dinner . I will be back . cc @FxMasterz, Meedon, OLAADEGBU, SpencerForbes

The evidence is strong especially given your explanations but Budaatum still denies. It is true that he could just be copying and pasting what he found interesting to him. The only way to expose him is for him to give us his source. The source of the post must have a title that matches the Latin title here word for word. Otherwise, Buda coined the title himself. And if that's the case, his membership of the cult is confirmed.

That is also to say if the source does not have a matching Latin titlecwith the title of the thread, it then means that the title of the thread was Budaatum's own words. And if that's the case, he is a confirmed member of the cult. Since you already established that only members of the cult can you such a shibboleth. However, if the latin title of this thread matches his source, then, you still have more to do to establish your allegations. It means he just copied the shibboleth without knowing what he was doing.

However, I observed that budaatum didn't introduce the thread as a piece he found online and just felt like sharing. He shared it as as though it was a post by himself from himself in support of the belief system he wants to introduce. Why did I say this? This is because, normally, if you do not belong to a sect, you'll first write a disclaimer before sharing anything from them. At least you would detach yourself from the group using your disclaimer. Budaatum wrote many threads from Amorc without any such disclaimers and without any brief introduction stating why he is sharing even though he has no membership with the group. Hence, he cannot blame anyone for identifying him with the cult.

This did disclaimer issue because stringer given that the wordings of the post also constantly use the words 'We' and 'our' in its sentences, which without a prior disclaimer, identifies buda as being an integral part of the 'we' and the 'our' of the post. Especially when sharing the manifestos of a group you don't belong to, you cannot do that without a disclaimer. A manifesto for that matter!

These are already very strong indicators. However, I would like to see if Buda's copied the title of the thread directly from the source of the article or he coined the title by himself in Latin.

jaephoenix:
I won't give strangers my phone number bro. I can tell you what the patients have and you pray. Savvy?

I'll pray for them. Not praying into the air. I need to know who they are and then find a way for my prayers to reach them directly.

jaephoenix:
Oga, all these talk is bullshit. You agreed to pray in my hospital almost 2 years ago and have since been giving flimsy reasons. U r a liar till you prove it. Period!

Give me your contact. I'll pray for the sick over the phone.

triplechoice:
Hello everyone,

Later today,I will present a critical analysis of the thread titled:

"Manifesto-Positio-fraternitatis-rosae-crucis"

Created by Buda.

I will break down the meaning of this Latin title and explain what its use reveals about who created the thread. This analysis will be crucial to understanding why technical attempt was made to hide it after its discovery by me on his profile

Make sure you don't miss it. If someone wants to scam or deceive you they use what they know you're ignorant of to do so. Come back here to read what you don't know so you're not longer deceived or confused.

Cc FxMasterz, Meedon, Heatseeker OLAADEGBU

Fingers crossed.

budaatum:
"If"?

You should make up your own mind up, I think.

And post the recruiting material buda sent to you!

Lol.

This is not a matter of making up my mind. It's a matter of 'seeing is believing'. After which I can have some conviction.

Since I do.not have the time to be rummaging Nairaland just to research buda, the evidences I see from those who present them will serve as the basis for the inferences that I'll draw. Who told you that I must always do everything by myself before I can know the truth?

budaatum:
Next you'd be claiming you don't have time to investigate the evidence while passing judgement, but if I ask you to post your so called "vehemently" now you'd likely claim not to have time!

But seriously, if I were recruiting people, is links all I'd post?

Wouldn't I contact potential recruitees to further sell it to them?

Why would I not fear that one of those I failed to recruit might post my recruiting conversation with them here?

Or is it that I'm so powerful that I wiped the communication off your device?

And how would I reap a reward if the link is a general one to the site, and not one I get paid for?

Or do you think I'd be recruiting with no financial reward for myself?

Or is that I'm so successful at recruiting you and your loyalty to me and what I've recruited you to makes you dare not say, FxMasterz?

Alright, and on that last one. I release you from the non-disclosure I made you sign when I attempted to recruit you, and I promise not to put a spell on you. Please release the communication I had with you when trying to recruit you, so triple's allegation can be confirmed. Thank you much in advance.

Now, that's interesting.

If Triplechoice can prove that you went beyond mere education to posting recruitment links as he claimed, the case is already closed.

Thankfully, he and others have saved screenshots as exhibits.

LordReed:
It is not hypocrisy exactly because we don't see it as something to believe. It is like teaching someone about Aesop's Fables, they are stories meant to convey some sort of morality or practical advice. Aesop doesn't need you to believe that the sun can talk because it says so in a story, no. Learn the lesson the story is trying to convey. That is how we view your religious text.

sometimes too it might be a merely academic reference, like telling you what book and chapter the story of Bathseba and David is in. It doesn't mean we believe the Bible.

Then you do that and provide recruitment links, and vehemently defend the position you don't believe in?

This is the point Triplechoice is trying to establish. Budaatum didn't just share for the purpose of education. He aimed at recruitments and even vehemently defended his materials against those who had opposing views.

budaatum:
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What's wrong is that its lazy, and will result in bad judgement as you yourself have shown here.

It is like a person who hasn't bothered spending time measuring other peoples fathers' farms claiming his own father's farm is the biggest, or passing judgement on an accused without bothering to look at all the evidence.

Better would be to know one's knowledge is limited and insufficient to pass judgement and shut the f up! But I guess that would be asking for far too much of some.

I never passed judgement, buda. I was drawing inferences and expecting you to clear yourself.

When I said you were cleared and still referred to triplechoice to take note, that wasn't a final judgement too. I am still hoping to see if triplechoice still has anything to add.

I'm not here to judge but to draw inferences.

Honestly, I don't have time to be browsing through Nairaland. It's not laziness. I have other things doing.

budaatum:
Trust me when I say that my faith in your ability to use you own senses instead of believing triplechoice never wavered.

One just needed to spit on mud and rub it in your eyes, but you still needed to go to wash in the Pool of Siloam, and now you see.

Pity Triple wouldn't go wash in the pool.

I don't have the time to be browsing all over Nairaland. So, I can only draw inferences from both parties present. What's wrong with that?

LordReed:
Ehhh, this is not correct. Atheists share educative materials about religion. Atheists don't have that kind of constraint you religious people usually have ie thinking that sharing religious material means you believe or are promoting that religion. You for instance would never go to the Islam section because you don't want that badge on your profile, you think it makes you somehow treacherous to your religion, an atheist has no such qualms.

Buda is cleared.

Triplechoice should take note.

However, I have never witnessed any Nairaland atheist sharing religious materials for the purpose of education except for criticism.

If that means atheists don't have the same constraints religious people have, it means atheists don't actually know what they're doing. I cannot teach anyone about something I don't believe in. That's hypocrisy.

Buda is cleared of being called out for hypocrisy because lordreed has said it's a general thing among atheists.

budaatum:
And there was me about to yell that you are biased where buda is concerned, lol.

What say ye, FxMasterz? Mr Lord has been asked.

https://www.nairaland.com/4721331/atheist-islam-muslims

Okay then.

That clears buda.

budaatum:
Not true, FxMasterz. You have not confirmed that buda only promoted the books of AMORC!

You would have seen other posts about other organisations and books that buda has promoted if you had bothered to follow the links that triple has provided so you may confirm instead of just believing what you've been told to!

Below is a link to a post by buda about freemasons
https://www.nairaland.com/85581/morals-dogma#1580271

Here are threads created by buda about the Bible.
https://www.nairaland.com/5822532/holy-bible-english-standard-version

https://www.nairaland.com/4437570/gospel-according-luke

And here is buda promoting Evolution!
https://www.nairaland.com/5238668/evolution-101

That confirms what Triplechoice has observed about you.

All the links you shared prove beyond reasonable doubts that you're not an atheist. No atheist will go anywhere sharing educative materials relating to any form of religion, whether esoteric or not, except for the purpose of criticism. Ask lordreed.

budaatum:
FxMasterz, if you promote a candidate, you are promoting a candidate, but if you [i]post manifestoes of all candidates, as opposed to promoting just one candidate, then I would personally consider my self føolish to think you are promoting any one candidate.

In fact, logic would tell me you are 'promoting' all candidates if anything, and I wouldn't then use the word "promote" to describe what you would have done. I definitely wouldn't claim you are a member of all the parties of all the candidates you supposedly promote. Would you?

But in this case, you have been confirmed to have promoted the manifestos of only one candidate while paying lip services to the others as a matter of disguise.

budaatum:
So. "promoted Amorc materials", makes you believe buda "belongs to the cult".

This must be how some peoples' minds must work I guess, as Triple's too works, but forgive me for not bothering to clear the air about your belief, since its your belief, which you are very free and entitled to believe if you wish.

Can you answer my question?

There are many presidential candidates in Nigeria. If I promote Tinubu or anything that has to do with him, whom do you think I believe in among the available candidates?

budaatum:
FxMasterz, I am still patiently awaiting the evidence requested of you please, as I'm sure you wouldn't make wild unfounded accusations like triple does.

Thanks in advance.

https://www.nairaland.com/8566179/appeal-investigate-hidden-evidence-harassment/4#137588089

I apologize. I have mixed you up with sonmvayina. Sonmvayina was the one who speaks highly of Marduk and even believes spirit wives and husbands are good for humans. Not Buda.

My apologies.

triplechoice:
Thank you for your response, Fxmasterz. I understand why you perceive it as confusion, and many others have been misled by that same impression. However , if you had access to the same information I have about him and the group he belongs to , you would see that his numerous disguises are not sign of confusion, but the very evidence of his affiliation.

His behaviour aligns perfectly with the documented culture of groups like Amorc, which instruct members to conceal their affiliation. The use of disguises and misdirection is a feature of their practice,not a bug. The confusion he creates is a deliberate tactic to make it difficult for anyone to pin him down..

For, instance, if you accuse him of being a secret member of Amorc, he will deflect by asking why you don't accuse him of being a Christian since he also quotes and interpret the Bible

If you question his gender he will gaslight you with a line of the like, ,"So you want to look under my skirt to find out"?, an absurd and illogical response on a faceless forum designed to shame you into silence. It is like someone here claiming to own a Ferrari and living in a mansion, then accusing you of wanting to rob them when you express doubt

The duplicity which I observed in most of their members was what put me off when I was to join them long ago as a teenager. Someone is a member of Amorc, Freemasonry,, Ogboni,voodoist and still goes to church to receive holy communion. Yes, this is what they are known for.

Most of their members hide themselves effectively by pretending to be Christians, especially in a society like ours, where groups like Amorc and the Ogboni are widely regarded as satanic cults. You will often find them in orthodox churches like the catholic church, having gone through the full process of baptism and communion. Some even aspire to the position of a priest in the church. This is not a conspiracy created by me, it is a verifiable strategy to avoid stigmatization and ostracization

There was once an active member of Amorc on this board, I believe his moniker was Frairmathy, who stated that the major requirement for joining Amorc is a belief in a God. He explained that ,as an initiate, he was also a confirmed Catholic. Is that confusion?

From their perspective, it is not. It is how they are encouraged to operate.

So, Buda' is not confused. The confusion he projects is. the very tool he uses to operate here' undetected. After advertising Amorc to recruit new members and sharing their core doctrinal books, he pivots to interpreting the Bible and Quran to create doubt about his true affiliations. When confronted, he defends himself by. saying, " I also quote the Bible or Shakespeare, so. what am I?

But if you have seen his past activities, passionately promoting and defending Amorc, you are left by with no doubt about where his allegiance lies.

He can confuse others with his foolery, but not me. If he had not crossed a line in our discussion, his identity wouldn't concern me. He is not the only member of Amorc here. If my goal was to expose them all, I would be doing so constantly.

I appreciate your perspective,but the evidence I have, points decisively to deliberate intellectual dishonesty: posing as a pure atheist to mock others while being a paying member of an esoteric group that teaches a distorted version of. the very concepts he criticizes .

Use this link to visit this thread to see his performance there and come back and tell me if it is the behaviour of a confused person and not that of someone promoting and.defending what they believe in.

https://www.nairaland.com/4793988/mystical-life#72173050

Thanks for this explanation.

You've researched him, so I cannot know better than you about him. The link you provided in your response actually nailed your points. After promoting Amorc in some of his earliest posts, he still had posts where he promoted Amorc materials and vehemently defended his action when called out by readers. That's revealing.

Budaatum surely belongs to the cult but supports atheism in debates against Christians. I have every reason to believe this until he clears the air about this duplicity.

FireTheSun:
And yet, after just 12days, they had to run to "Big Daddy Trump", to save their Nyansh from Iranian pummeling, by declaring a unilateral ceasefire!

Even in Nigeria, is the same thing not happening?
In America, did you not read recently, when the Trump Govt initiated a probe about how classified info was being leaked?
Whats the Biggy?

All these hyping of Israel and trying to insert "mistrust" into the Iranian Security, especially being overblown by a British Newspaper (recall that Britain also joined the attack on Iran, by helping to refuel Israeli Jets mid-air, on their way to attack Iran), let them attack Iran a second time, them we will see who will first call a ceasefire again.

BTW: IRAN WILL DEFINITELY BUILD ITS OWN NUCLEAR WEAPON, Its Centrifuges were not destroyed, it has kicked out IAEA Officials spying for Israel and it now has the full military backing of Russia and China.

Why are you Muslims always in bed with lies and falsehood?

Israel's aim during the war was to destroy Iran's nuclear networks. Nothing more. They planned to use ground soldiers but using them would elongate the duration of the operation. They had also wanted to kill Ayatollah during the ground operation. The US then had an agreement with Israel not to kill Ayatollah with a promise that the US will use its powerful bombs to destroy the nuclear sites instead of Israel using ground soldiers. America was the only country in the world that had the bombs that could penetrate the rocks and dismantle the nuclear installations underneath them.

On the 9th day of the war, America reneged on its promise to use those Bombs on Israel's behalf. Israel then decided to use ground soldiers and also kill Ayatollah. America pressured Israel not to kill him but Netanyahu refused. As Israel refused to back down, Donald Trump promised to use the bombs ad initially agreed.

That was how America came into the war on the 12th day just to bomb those nuclear sites so that Israel won't use ground incursion to do it and also kill Ayatollah in the process. America feared that Ayatollah's death would cause serious unrest in the middle East. That was how America saved Ayatollah from death. Israel would have taken him out.

America didn't help Israel in anyway during the war. Israel already finished his job. US helped bomb the nuclear sites and left as per agreement.

Israel was not even fighting Iran. They were just targeting their military leaders and scientists. If Israel was fighting Iran, they won't be making broadcasts to reassure Iranians during those 12 days. Also, can you imagine the damages Israel would have caused Iran if they started bombing everywhere after taking total control of Iranian airspace and decimating their military top brasses?

Why do.you guys like using lies to console yourselves?

budaatum:
Really? I did not know that buda identifies as a pagan and or believes in Marduk. Care to provide evidence for this please?

It shouldn't be too difficult since all you have to do is a simple search for "budaatum pagan" and "budaatum marduk".

Thanks in advance.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/5123700/disbelieve-know

I.do.not presume to know everything about you. All I said are inferences drawn from conversations with you. You speak highly of Marduk. That may not bot translate to a belief in him but majority of what I said about are true.

You even believe that spirit wives and spirit husbands are good for everyone. Isn't it? I need to call Triplechoice attention to this too. Everything about your religious life is just muddled up.

triplechoice:
Allow Lordreed to answer for himself.

What you're now saying is implicating you the more.

Before I answer you later why didn't declare where it was two years ago?

You claimed the link to it reach was invalid,but now I said it can be reached through your post and after the exposure ,you now admit it's on page 2 . Why?


Because I asked those I called to screenshot pages 1,5and 7 only

Thanks for your attempt to expose budaatum but I think you misunderstood him. I also once did. When I first started interacting with him, I thought he is an atheist. Later I found out he's not one.

Budaatum is not deliberately dishonest. He's just very confused. As a result, you could get confused about him because he dishes out his confusions very frequently. That's why Maxindhouse told someone that any conversation with budaatum is one chance.

Let me clarify.

Whenever there's a discussion about atheists, he'll enter the thread to vehemently support atheism. Then, in some other threads talking about God, you'll find out he believes in Marduk, the Babylonian god. Infact, he believes that Yahweh and Marduk are the same person. He also believes in ifa, the spiritual tradition of the Yorubas. He talks in support of all these 3 with a very distorted view of the Bible. His view of the Bible is strongly opposed to Christianity but has some tolerance for Judaism plus a staggering distortion of the Old Testament Scriptures.

All these make him really weird. Especially when he tells you that God does not exist as a person somewhere to be worshipped, and that you yourself you're a god of some sort. That's the Rosicrucian order part of him actually. Infact, I think I've also heard him say that everything around you is God.

He scanned information from diverse places and couldn't place a hand on anything specifically. So, he's just floating in the air belonging nowhere and has no particular definition of what he actually believes. That's his case.

So, when you see one of his sides, you'll conclude he's atheist. Another side tells you he's a pagan, and infact he gladly identifies as one. Another side of him will make you think he's into Judaism. In short, he doesn't belong anywhere. He's just floating, and does not even know what to believe specifically.

That's the person budaatum is and that's why many people are confused about him. He himself is confused about himself.

So, who is budaatum?

Budaatum is an atheist, a worshipper of Marduk, a staunt believer in ifa, an animist and a follower of Moses. Does this definition make sense to you? No! But that's who budaatum is. And, you see, he calls himself buda for a reason. The confusion no be here.

It took me some time to understand him. Anyone who engages him on any religious topic has entered one chance indeed. Maxindhouse was right.

KillerOfCrackas:
Bro, I know exactly how you feel because I was in your shoes.
Masturbation is not harmless it’s a trap. It drains your mind, steals your focus, destroys your drive, and keeps you far below your potential.
I was stagnant while all my friends were doing better than me, even my junior brother. No matter how hard I worked, I kept falling back because I went to porn every time the urge came it was my fault, but it held me captive.
The dark dreams, the heaviness, the constant frustration it made me realize this was more than a habit. One day, I cried out to God and decided to cut all triggers. I fell many times, but I refused to give in.
Today, I can boldly say: I’m free. I don’t feel the urges anymore. God delivered me.
Bro, don’t let masturbation steal your life. It’s deadly for your destiny. Fight it, remove every trigger, and stay determined. You can be free too. You just have to play your part while God play his. Stay blessed.

Thanks for sharing your testimony.

Please can you also share what your experience has been after leaving masturbation? Did life change for you? Did you experience any financial turn around or any advancement in life and destiny?

Thanks very.much.