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DomPerignon:
Iran bombed the shit out of Israel so much so that Netamyahu had to call Trump to beg Iran to stop.

If Iran bombed the shit out of Israel, why is it that Israel continues to wage successful wars against Iranian allies and networks while Iran keeps mute?

Trump was already in the plan. Israel didn't run to him for help. Israel's target was for ground soldiers to destroy Iran's nuclear networks and kill Ayatollah but Trump disagreed, promising to use America's rock buster bombs to destroy the nuclear sites while Israel stays away and avoid killing Ayatollah. Trump didn't want him killed because he thought his death would destabilize the middle east.

When Trump reneged on his promise to send the bombs, Israel was preparing for a ground incursion to destroy the nuclear sites and kill Ayatollah. Trump had to immediately fulfil his promise so as to save Ayatollah s life. He then sent the bombers as promised.

The bombers didn't attack anyone or anything in Iran. Just the nuclear sites as promised. So, where in your head did you register that Israel ran to USA for help to defeat Iran? Israel was not even flighting Iran otherwise Iran would have been leveled during those 12 days in which Israel had absolute control of all Iran's skies. Israel was sending messages of comfort to Iranians during those times. So, they were not fighting Iran. Instead, they wanted to limit Iran's nuclear progression and take out its nuclear scientists. They achieved that 100%.

Keep shouting that Israel ran to Trump just to make yourself happy. Iranians are currently revolting and praising Bibi while chanting death to the supreme leader.

Mirasteel:
Is it muslims that started World war 1? what about the barbaric christian crusades?

I guess muslims are your problem, but no matter how you guys degrade them, they will keep growing.

Is it Christians that started world war 1? Tell me how they were killing for Jesus?

Muslims are the problems of the world because they're mostly terrorists or terrorist sympathizers.

DeepSight:
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I was trying to tell you that the crusades were a reaction to Muslim control of the Holy Land. They were not a reaction to the conquest of Spain, never.

Who said they were? Or, why are you answering questions you were never asked?

My bad if I said Muslims didn't encroach on Europe, they obviously did at several points but not in the context of what provoked the crusades, not at all.

You deliberately lied because you had an agenda. Your agenda has been crushed. That's why you now see your bad in the open.

Who said the crusaders were related to the Spanish war? Who said that? You were the one who dubiously wanted to mix things up, and I got you exposed.

Generally my point is that religions have always been associated with violence, it's just a question of times and places and cycles, so no need to try to says it's just one religion.

However certainly Islam of today is a present day problem.

Your generalization is based on a false premise. People defending themselves against violence cannot be accused of being violent for defending themselves!

What violence exactly has Christianity done to you as a person, your community or your nation?

DeepSight:
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Indeed but the crusades were not a reaction to this encroachment but specifically to reclaim the so called Holy Land.

Tell me was it European territory?

Please keep your lies.

You talked about the crusades, and I told you the rose in defense against Islam.

You talked about Islam not touching Europe, I told you they did and were defeated at Spain.

You came back asking unnecessary questions. Who said they crusaders were about Europe? The crusaders stood to recover Jerusalem from this same Islam. The Europeans defended themselves against this same Islam. Islam already killed and maimed in order to take over north Africa. They did the same in Nigeria's north as well.

DeepSight:
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The point is that religions have a long history of violence for the purpose of power, territory and domination.

Lies again !

Christianity has never been known to be violent. The crusaders took up arms only to defend themselves against this same Islam.

Also Muslims did not attack Christian Europe before Christian European Kings launched Crusades at the direction of the Popes

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Liar! They did!

They took over many countries and were defeated at Spain!

I used that phrase because we all know that colonialists came with a bible in one hand and a gun in another.

List!

Colonialists were politicians who practiced different religions. No Bible in their hands. The missionaries were a different set of people who built free schools, hospitals and made several sacrifices to help the people while colonialists plundered with reckless abandon. Mixing colonialists with missionaries is deliberate falsehood.

They did so everywhere they went. That is missionary colonialism.

Liar!

Missionaries died for the people. Mary Slessor comes to mind.

Mirasteel:
Christianity needs to be reformed too, most of you here lack 🧠.

you forgot that their are bad people in every religion, don't forget that Turkey is a Muslim country and they are against any sort of terrorism.

There are bad people in every religion but only Islam has the highest number of very bad people spreading terror all over the world from the days of Mohammed till now! Why?

Because the religion explicitly commanded its followers to kiIi for its god and get rewards.

DeepSight:
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Would you have said so about Christianity during the crusades or the witch hunts or missionary colonialism or the Trans Atlantic slave trade?

Lies!

The crusaders didn't go about terrorism people! It was done to defend against murderous Islam.

There's nothing like missionary colonialism! No mission or missionary organization colonized anybody. Show proofs or bury your head in shame!

KnownUnknown:
Christianity has never been known to cause trouble but here you are defending instances of Christian trouble.

Atheists are those who haven’t realized gods are arrant nonsense.

Rest!

What trouble has Christianity caused to you in person, your community or your nation?

FreeStuffsNG:
Please state the difference between your screenshot and this. Thank you sir.

The difference is that Jesus never carried swords but Mohammed did!

KnownUnknown:
Abrahamic religion, the disease that will end the world. Sunni vs Shia, Christian vs Jew, Jew vs Muslim, Jew vs everyone, Christian vs everyone, Muslim vs everyone.

Atheist, rest!

Jews have never been known to go cause trouble anywhere except to defend themselves from Islamic terrorists who believe that Christians and Jews must be eliminated from the world so that their Dhajal can manifest.

Christianity has never been known to cause trouble. If you'll talk about the inquisition, it was erring christians imprisoning and executing those whom they thought to be heretic. There was no war against any peaceful country like it's done in Islam.

If you'll talk about the Crusaders, it was an army of Christians who rose to push back the advances of the marauding Islamic terrorists.

Stop being a liar and face your Atheism in peace until.yoir judgement comes.

huptin:
What i tried to explain to youbis that, they export what they themselves do not tolerate. The Saudi kingdom is so brutal on anybody that threatens its existence but encourages them to go to other countries for terrorism.

Oh, I got it.

huptin:
Oga i am not a muslim jo. God forbid!

Wetin concern me with their Taqiya

In that case, let us not be naive. These guys have very sinister plans for our world. Their core mission is to keep eliminating Christians and Jews so that their dhajal can come to the world. We're expecting Jesus as Christians, Muslims are expecting a Dhajal that will eliminate all Christians and Jews and make the whole world Islamic. This is the reason why most non violent Muslims regard the violent ones as better Muslims and would therefore never condemn them.

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huptin:
Saudi Arabia will not even allow them to try this rubbish in their country they kill them for fun. It is Europe that tolerates their nonsense

That's taqqiya

No evidence.

henrybomb:
It is not
People just hide under religion or tribe to display their wickedness….Religion is not by force so no one should control your mind or you shouldn't use religion as yardstick to show your dark side.

It is actually about religion!

THEIR Quran explicitly told them to annihilate Jews and Christians and never make friends with them. In return, they'll be rewarded by Allah. If it's not religion, why do you think Islam alone has such numerous number of wicked and heartless people in the world. They're the ones shedding blood everywhere. When you condemn such plots as this, Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries would never raise their voices in condemnation. The Muslims all.over the world would never condemn the act because as far as everyone of them is concerned, those murderers are doing the work of God.

huptin:
All their so called knowledge never results to the invention of anything useful.

They don't have any knowledge that transcends anything that humans can ordinarily come by.

For example, see the verse they're praising here saying a bird is suspended in the air by nothing but Allah. You and I know that this assertion was based on the knowledge available in the days of Mohammed.

Long before science came to know the truth, the Bible was “ahead-of-its-time” in making claims that match modern science. Here are a few:

- Earth is round-ish: Isaiah 40:22 talks about God sitting “above the circle of the earth” (written ~700 BCE, when science thought the earth was flat). Even their Quran that came much later than the Bible said Allah spread the earth like a carpet.

Stars are uncountable: Genesis 15:5, Jeremiah 33:22 – way before telescopes showed us the Milky Way’s scale.

Water cycle basics: Ecclesiastes 1:7, Job 36:27-28 describe evaporation/precipitation (ancient poetry, modern hydrology).

Ocean currents: Psalm 8:8 (paths in the sea) and Isaiah 43:16 (path in the mighty waters).

Light is faster than sound: Job 38:35 (lightning precedes thunder).

Earth hangs in space: Job 26:7 (God hangs earth “on nothing”).

There are even more examples which suggest that only the Creator of the universe could have such knowledge at a time when humans held contrary opinions.

We keep sounding the alarm but many refuse to listen. Someone like Antichristian with all his education and knowledge of modern science still keeps following falsehoods obstinately. Falsehoods that are so obvious. Rather than sit down to make an independent study to know the truth personally,the keeps following a religion that would land him in the wrong place in the afterlife.

ALMUSTAQIM:
Assalaam Alaekum Wa Rrahmatullah Wa Barakatuh

*Signs of Allah in Birds*

Indeed, within the heavens and the earth are signs (ayat) for the believers." (Quran 45:3)

Allah says in the Holy Quran:

"Do they not see the birds suspended in mid-air up in the sky? Nothing holds them there except Allah. There are certainly Signs in that for people who have faith." (Surat an-Nahl: 79)

A bird uses great energy when it takes flight because it has to lift all its body with its tiny wings. Yet, once it is up in the air, Allah has made it easy for it to remain aloft without expending too much effort. Birds can fly for a long time by allowing themselves to rely on the wind. This way, they hardly tire since they consume very little energy. When the effect produced by the wind diminishes, they begin to flap their wings again. By means of this feature Allah has given birds, they can cover very long distances and migrate to remote destinations.

It is interesting that birds' legs, so slender and little in comparison to their bodies, can carry their entire bodies. It is amazing that so many muscles, veins and nerves can exist in such a slender leg! If birds' legs were thicker and relatively more bulky, it would be more difficult for them to fly.

Almost all birds sleep on one leg. This does not upset their balance since their body weight is concentrated on this one leg. Allah has created birds with the features that enable them to maintain such a delicate balance.

The eyes of water fowl have been created for clear underwater vision. While we can't keep our eyes open underwater for even 45 seconds, water birds can easily catch insects and molluscs in water as they plunge their heads into it. Since this is the only way for them to feed themselves, they must have clear vision underwater. For this reason, Allah has created a special structure in their eyes, which permits seeing underwater.

_فَتَبَارَكَ ٱللَّهُ أَحْسَنُ ٱلْخَالِقِينَ_
"So, Blessed be Allah, The Best to Create"
(Qur. 23, V..14)

We Pray Allah to to continue to Guard and Guide us Aright, Protect us, Have Mercy on us. Increase us in Knowledge Sustenance and Piety and Enable become better MUSLIMS, better NIGERIANS.

Happy Jumaat, Happy Weekend.

Yinmu. Is Allah the one holding the aeroplanes in the air too? Even aeroplanes are signs of Allah. Hilarious.

If Mohammed knew the science of flight, he wouldn't have put these in his book as a sign of Allah.

This is just too childish to attribute bird flying as a sigh of God. It doesn't make sense at all.

God has many awesome unexplainable signs. Birds flying is not one of them.

I find it appalling that you guys continue to follow hard on some false religious ideologies that were forced on your ancestors by the sword.

AntiChristian:
Allah can't be terrorized! He is not Jesus that can become man and be punished by humans and then killed! The people that are killed are humans so the law is for humans!

Memory verse 1
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” 1 Samuel 15:3

And talking about virgins: Numbers 31:17-18
So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man.

Virgins are spared o!

See lies! No be God dey give judgement everywhere in the old testament?

See one of God's Judgement for people o!
He told them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each of you men is to fasten his sword to his side, go back and forth through the camp from gate to gate, and slay his brother, his friend, and his neighbor.’ ” The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people fell dead. Exodus 32:27-28

This is "Jesus's judgement mentality" that stemed from the biblical story of Jesus when the Pharisees brought an adultrous woman to him to judge! Jesus should have exposed their sins too and judge everyone accordingly if he wants to fulfil the law!

Keeping the law on hold because of equity will only lead to chaos! Now no one will be judged and every criminals goes scot-free!

Of course, it serves as a punishment for their sins and a deterrent to others! If you know you will be beheaded will you carry cocaine to Saudi Arabia?

God will judge everyone in the afterlife. That's certain! We are asking for laws to judge crimes on earth from Jesus! And you said Jesus didn't came to give laws or to judge! Soe who gave those laws above Exodus 32:27-28, 1 Samuel 15:3, Numbers 31:17-18?

Who gave all the laws below and where was Jesus?

1. Death for Murder
"Whoever strikes a man so that he dies shall be put to death." (Exodus 21:12)

2. Death for Kidnapping
"Whoever kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or is found in possession of him, shall be put to death." (Exodus 21:16)

3. Death for Cursing Parents
"Whoever curses his father or his mother shall be put to death." (Leviticus 20:9)

4. Death for Adultery
"If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:10)

5. Death for Witchcraft and Divination
"A man or a woman who is a medium or necromancer shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 20:27)

6. Death for Blasphemy
"Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death." (Leviticus 24:16)

7. Death for Sabbath Violation
"Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death." (Exodus 31:15)

8. Death for False Prophecy
"If a prophet presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak... that prophet shall die." (Deuteronomy 18:20)

9. Stoning for Rebellious Children
"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother... then all the men of his city shall stone him to death." (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

10. Death for Bestiality
"If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 22:19)

God was the King of Israel, and therefore gave them laws as King to consolidate the covenant He had with them. It was a matter of "I have done this for you, you therefore agree to behave this way to continue this relationship." Israel had no human king or president. God was their President. Those laws were for Israel's internal use. Not laws for the whole world. They were laws given to Curtail the evils of the average Israelite. Those were the laws you were quoting without understanding. And, you still do not understand that God first dealt with Israel as a specimen to let the world see their helplessness - that laws don't stop crimes or sins. Infact, they make sins abound.

Man has no capacity to keep the law. God fully demonstrated that with Israel, made us see how helpless we are in the face of sin, then, He introduced a New Covenant where Grace replaced law. We're given the ability to obey the law without observing the law, all by the help of the Holy Spirit.

'Some better Muslims' obeyed the commandments of Allah in Australia and have shot 16 people to death. Allah will reward them isn't it? He'll give them 72 virgins for taking lives they have no power to create. A man must have become sub-human to even believe in such an ideology. To even think you're going to heaven to be having sex shows there's a defect on one's thinking.

Except you have your mind totally ensIaved by Satan, it's impossible to believe that Allah is God. His revelations especially in science were at par with the sciences of the times which are now seen as inaccurate. How on earth can the sinfuI Mohammed who murdered people here and there, and was known to be a paedophile and robber be a prophet? A prophet to whom no single righteousness is attributed.

David wanted to build a house for God. He gathered money and means to build a magnificent house but God rejected him. Why? Because he had shed so much blood by wars. If God rejected a man's attempt to build him a house because he has fought wars, how can God accept anyone who fights wars as a very important prophet even above Jesus according to your Quran. And then make such a person the role model for the entire human race? Someone who cannot stand shoulder to shoulder with any of the prophets of God in terms of purity and holiness. Why can't can't you reason things out for once?

Well, we would continue to sound the alarm to you. But, regarding the Quranic verse shared by the OP, you're the one who thinks AIIah cannot be terrorised but I tell you AIIah is afraid of the sword. He tried to instill fear in you so that you would not war against him. That's all about that verse that is giving you false peace. AIIah's protest was to those who wage war against AIIah and you're here saying AIIah cannot be terrorised when AIIah himself thinks he could be.

Honestly, you need to sit down to yourself. I just pray that you'll submit your mind to reason some day and get yourself out of the chokehold of Islamic brainwashing.

AntiChristian:
Who is here to compare your Bible to the Qur'an and sunnah? I already said it earlier. A fool only needs to keep speaking and the stench of his folly will be felt by all.

It's like you are among the ones Paul was referring to in Galatians 3:1.

Anyways, tell us how Jesus will deter the cases of banditry and terrorism in Nigeria. Show your Bible verses? If a bandit/terrorist is caught today how will they be judged?

Allah didn't talk about deterring banditry and terrorism. Show us any verse of the Quran where he did. Allah was only concerned about people terrorizing him and therefore gave laws against those who war against Allah and are thereby corrupting the earth. Infact, Allah is happy as long as the war is not against him. It's 72 virgins and straight paradise according to the false god.

The Lord Jesus didn't come to give laws or to judge. He'll judge at His second coming but at His first coming, He only came to fulfil the law.

The true God does not give the judgement of humans to fellow men who are themselves sinners!

Tell me, before you judge bandits and sentence them to be decapitated, don't you have your own sins too? God judges all sins by Himself, whether bandit, armed robber or liar. They're all sinners before God. That's why Jesus told the accusers of that woman caught in adultery, "He who has no sin, let him cast the first stone."

God is the Judge of the whole world. Not man!

Genesis 9:6 says "He that sheds man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed.'

Mohammedian, when you cut the hands and limbs of terrorists, does that erase their sins? Does that mean they cannot commit other sins? Does that mean they cannot sponsor terrorism? Does that mean they cannot become bandits advisors or teachers? Does that mean they cannot become planners and coordinators of bandit operations and terrorism from wherever they're seated? Does cutting off hands and limbs make them less evil?

God Judges by Himself after he has waited for the sinner to repent to no avail. One day, his cup will be full. However, God has assigned human authorities on earth that also checkmate the evils of wicked men pending the time God would judge them.

Psalm 9:7: "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God".

Job 4:8-9: "Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same.By the blast of God they perish, and by the breath of his nostrils are they consumed.."

AntiChristian:
I already said only those who have eyes will see! You just confirmed my statement. A fool doesn't need to talk hence his folly is exposed!

I asked you questions. The best you could do is to call me a fool.

I mean mad people also see things others don't see. Is it because others have no eyes?

Again, what's Allah afraid of by giving instructions about those who war against him? I can't imagine God talking like that. And, then, you saw that as a revelation of peace. Shake my head! Which human being doesn't know that earring against God is useless? Allah didn't say anything new that humans don't already know.

Let me tell you this:

"To be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded isi life and peace."

What I just said up there is the Bible. That's a deep revelation about the source of peace. That's not something any human being knows. You have to read that again and again for it to sink. The Bible is full of deep wisdom and secrets hard to come by among men. Not like the Quran that says things everybody knows and uses the scientific knowledge of the days of Mohammed as revelation. Those sciences are now in the mud.

AntiChristian:
Only those who have eyes will see!

There's nothing there to see. Only those who are gullible would see what's not.

There's nothing like terrorizing God, is there?

That verse only talks about Allah's safety. Not the safety of men. It's not possible to take up swords against God in the first place. So, if Allah was God, what's Allah afraid of. How does that give you peace?

AntiChristian:
The lovely part is that there's structure and rulings to live a peaceful life.

Can you fish out the structure and the ruling in that verse that makes anyone live a peaceful life?

AntiChristian:
Waoh!

This is lovely!

Islam to the world!

What's lovely there? Can you show me the lovely part?