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If there are legal grounds to deport someone, anyone, from whatever country, what exactly is wrong with that?

There is no way Ghana would deport any Nigerian just because he or she is... a Nigerian.

Even I (as a white European) think that black is as nice as any other colour and I really can't point any good reason why African girls and women bleach so much.

With all due respect for the deceased, a person is the Ambassador only while serving as such (as the Ambassador). Once that person leaves the post of the Ambassador, he/she can't be called an Ambassador anymore, he/she can only be called Ex-Ambassador or former Ambassador.

As a decent Kalabari woman, Agbani Darego will not go for this man.

Tall girls wearing high heels should be stoned, right?

3/4 of the remaining fuel evaporates suddenly, within an hour or two, lol.

Little c*nt just got what he deserves. What goes around...

It is certainly late when you pass away... and only then.

What goes around...

I won't shed a single tear for any politician when he/she dies, and there is one and one only exception: Nelson Mandela.

What she wanted to say is "I am not responsible for the release of that video".

Now, acting in the video is another story.

Sony Xperia S (not Arc S!) needed in Abuja. Any idea how much it would cost these days?

1. Is it still available?

2. Are you based, by any chance, in Abuja? (I guess, by your nickname, that you are in Ilorin).


Regards...

Now, take them to Eagle Square and use them for target practice.

Possibilities:

1. Both engines flame-out. Either because of contaminated fuel (Kerosene, Jet-A1), or because of fuel supply system faults (but that is less likely).

2. Loss of all hydraulic fluid

3. Fault on hydraulic pumps (each engine should have one, plus APU one too).

All in all, I believe that it was dual engine failure, that led to partial or total loss of hydraulic pressure. If the fuel was contaminated, pilots would not have much chance to restart the engines, or to start the APU which would give some hydraulic pressure. If the plane was manoeuvrable, which I doubt it was, I personally would prefer to crash-land on a shore, rather than in heavily populated area. That is one more reason why I believe that both engines have failed, for one reason or another.

Off the record, APU is not on the MEL (Minimum Equipment List, or the set of equipment required by the manufacturer to operate the plane under certain circumstances). Few months ago, AERO flight from Lagos to Abuja has been delayed for a few hours. Plane was on the tarmac during that period, with maintenance crew trying their best. After boarding, I have noticed the cabin was boiling hot. I asked stewardess if something is wrong with their APU (which powers the A/C and generates electricity) and she replied with "Sir, everything is just fine with our APU". I doubt she even knows what the APU was, but most of Nigerian air travel is about lies, lies and... more lies. When a Nigerian airline takes off on time, it makes headlines worldwide. But, most of the time they are at least 30 minutes, sometimes few hours, late. Either because of poor planning, or because they are forced to spend more hours to make airworthy the plane that is barely... airworthy.

If there is God, he should prevent that plane from crashing. But...

LeoMax: Flying was risky from the days of of Wilbor Wreight, its never a perfect way to move, I see no reason why foreigners should own airlines in a sovereign nation. Its not just right, I cant remember if a Nigerian can own or manage airline in India. Its tyme we stop tribalism and give our government support to clean the system.

Absolutely true (and no, I am not being sarcastic here). But, there is a problem. Government itself has to be cleaned first, because it is the same government that gave owners of DANA the AOC (Airline Operator Certificate), allowing them to commence operations in Nigeria. Those from DANA should be jailed for a very loooong time. Kirikiri is a perfect place for such. But those that gave them the AOC and did not follow up afterwards should join them too.

LeoMax: Henceforth, no plane older than 10yrs should be allowed to fly in Nigeria Airspace.

Yes, exactly. Other countries (USA, UK, France, Germany etc) have airlines capable of MAINTAINING AND FLYING even 30+ years old planes, because they have the expertise, competence and dedication. However, lacking all these things, Nigeria should certainly ban all planes older than 10 years. So maybe, just maybe, passengers will have good luck to arrive safely to their destinations. Luck, and not trust in those responsible for the safety of flying.

niyitogun: Source pls...any previous surveys on this, sample size, sample frame, level of significance that support flight of 40yr old commercial airplanes?.....*smh*

I am the source, with over 8000 flight hours.

aginamuk: In the current United States presidential fleet, there are two Boeing VC-25As – specifically configured, highly customized Boeing 747-200B series airplanes - built in 1990. They are 22 years old and are scheduled to be replaced beginning 2017.
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Thanks for answering before I could.

stagger: The US had better stay where they are. We don't need them jumping into our affairs.

You certainly DO need them. Why? Simply because you are NOT capable of implementing already existing laws and regulations. You do have them, but you would rather collect some money from whoever wants to do something illegal and look the other way. Americans will not do the same and that is the only reason why you need them.

Does NCAA have the facilities to read the content of CVR and FDR, assuming that you ever find them at the crash scene? If CVR, FDR, or both, are damaged, does the NCAA have the facilities to preserve what remains, and then recover the data, if any still exists inside? Are you ABSOLUTELY sure that local investigators will make sure nobody tampers with the evidence at the crash scene, be it FDR, CVR or any other less relevant item?

Yes, Nigerians can certainly do part of the job, but with corruption and negligence on absolutely all levels of society, I don't think any public official should be trusted enough to handle case like this on his own. You people HAD the chance to run the NCAA properly on your own. There was no foreign influence. Did you do it well? Hell no! If NCAA officials did their job properly, DANA air plane would not crash. Maybe even Sosoliso, Bellview, ADC and others would not either. So, you HAD your chance to prove yourself as worthy in this highly sophisticated industry. And, guess what? You have FAILED big time. And that alone is reason strong enough not only to allow NTSB agents to conduct the investigation, but to BEG them to do so.

A 40 years old airplane, but well and properly maintained, is safer than brand new but not maintained at all one.

Obijulius: Pls what is the pilot's religion? Y re we ignoring this? And the technician who worked on this craft...what is his/her religion?

Any clues?

All victims are, first of all, humans. Why on earth does it matter if they are Christians, Muslims, Hindu, whatever?

otokx: The management of DANA should be charged for crimes against the people of Nigeria.

This is not the case of "rest of the world against Nigeria". It is NOT only Nigerians that diet in the accident, but also 6 Chinese, 1 American. mechanics releasing the aircraft should be arrested for criminal negligence, management for forcing them to do so etc.

rubi96: they are flying first class

When it comes to flying, those flying 1st class usually die first on impact.

boneruns: I think some CBN staff died too. My friend's mum who works with CBN almost boarded the flight. It was a narrow escape. She actually missed the flight cos' of her child.

My late grandma used to say: When something bad happens, be grateful. Maybe it is actually the best thing that happened in your life so far.

I would personally love to shoot him dead. However, even if we kill all those responsible for this disaster, that would NOT solve the problem. Other people, other companies will come to fill the gap in the airline market. Those on top, and in charge of making sure that everything is done according to regulations (NCAA, NAMA, FAAN) will remain the same, so will their attitude towards their duties.

And for the record, I really can't care less for the culprit's nationality. It does not matter if he is black, white, brown, green... He would have to be hanged in public for what he did.