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Let the 'Lord's resistance army' followership of GEJ in the South continue to deceive themselves Fresh air rancid breeze can still convince Nigerians he has no shoes. We dey laff.

A member of the NWC of the PDP said: “We are not underrating the implications of Buhari’s declaration rally. We have woken up to the reality that we must gird our loins. With Buhari, the battle has started.

“Our leaders are already doing some rethinking because we know what Buhari’s candidacy portends for our party.

A source in the PDP Governors Forum said: “I cannot deceive you, we met on Wednesday night on some issues and Gen. Buhari’s declaration rally took the central stage because he seems to be in control of the North-East and Northwest.

“And if you look at the North-Central, APC is certainly stronger in Niger, Kwara, Benue and Nasarawa.

“To us, the forthcoming poll might not be an easy ride as being projected by some strategists in the Presidency.”

I said precisely the same thing on the thread below. It is left for APC fans to focus on promoting GMB in recognition of how the looters of Nigeria are running scared of a Buhari running under the platform of the biggest opposition Party in Nigeria and now supported by many who opposed and worked against him even in 2011 like Bukola Saraki et al. Things have changed for good and the PDP know this fully well. This is why they can say nothing cohesive or official for weeks about the Chibok kidnapping that shocked the world yet are able to fire off, with immediate alacrity, a rebuttal against Buhari even before the general had left the podium after his declaration speech. Who is foolish enough not to note that this action reeks of fear from those petrified Buhari is about to put a stop to the "business as usual" and 'private jet' level of corruption they are enjoying under GEJ?

https://www.nairaland.com/1951289/pdp-welcomes-buhari-presidential-race/3#27184404

Gbawe:
It seems most posters replying here have missed the main point. Is this hasty rebuttal, above everything else, not illustratively indicative of how the PDP is very scared of Buhari? when they have a rebuttal for Buhari's 'outdooring' speech even before the General finished making it, can APC supporters not see the big picture to discern what matters instead of coming here to engage scared TANdroids and Jonathanians in senseless back and forth? Think people, think !!! Buhari is acting like a President in waiting and the PDP, with their actions and full attention focused on him completely , are showing they are fearful this is the case also.

Does the speed with which this rebuttal appear not show a fearful government that has ordered all its sycophants and expensively paid 'mouthpieces' to watch exactly and obsessively what Buhari says and does so as to find a way to counter any possible 'damage' the same way most football managers facing Messi may obsessively watch tapes of the maestro footballer so as to devise a way to stop him?

Can we also not see that the PDP is not a serious ruling Party? Rebuttal for Buhari's presidential declaration speech ready in seconds after the General finished talking yet weeks before anything was said about the disappearance of the Chibok girls while years after the shameful event no single fuel subsidy scammer has being brought to book !!!! Think well-meaning Nigerians and see what you need to see !!! The evil looters who want things to remain as they are, so the looting can continue, are already at work. It will be up to all of you to raise your game and see/note what matters.

onatisi:
gbawe ,I have proven you wrong more than once with my analysis of nigerian politics and with outcome of elections . And I want everyone to bookmark this thread, buhari won't get that apc ticket and apc won't win even 10 states when it comes to the presidential elections .I don't like talking too much . Like I always say we will meet at the polling booth

You are such a shameless lair and sentimentally dishonest individual. When have you proven anyone wrong here, let alone Gbawe, and/or gotten outcome of elections corrects? You think your past post have disappeared into thin air or are you not the same poster, to much derision, who made the claim below in regards to the Osun gubernatorial election? Dude, you are merely sentimental and nothing else. I just don't know why some of you are so brazenly dishonest in haste to sound knowledgeable when your utterance merely expose you as sentimental and desperate. Gaze upon your own utterance below and see how you now disgrace yourself.

https://www.nairaland.com/1849542/osun-poll-today-what-happening/69#25360603

onatisi: ok bros no problem . Just wait for the official announcement .just remember this ,there is no way pdp will lose osun state . Good morning bro

onatisi:
bros ,they don't know because they base their political knowledge on what they read on nairaland and newspaper headlines. The northern elites and political class will even prefer atiku than buhari. Please how will apc be able to sell buhari/fashola to people in anambra ,delta or enugu ? the issue oof boko haram victims from the sw is still fresh in the minds of many yorubas ,many christians will not even look at apc logo before thumb printing for pdp once they see buhari name or pic . Pdp controls over 20 states out oof 36 ,these state gov will deliver their states so how can apc win? Even before the end of the year many apc politicians will still decamp back to pdp before the next elections . With the scheme of things even in oyo state ,apc is on the verge of losing that state . Tinubu and apc problem is more than the presidency,they have seen their mistake and what it is costing them and they are trying to salvage it,hence the visit of tinubu to obj to help him rescue ogun state . If obj can influence his boys to pull out of ogun pdp and join amosun then amosun has a chance ,because ogun apc is in serious trouble due to the in fighting among amosun and osoba factions. Many more cases in the sw apc .

Dude, get real for once. You accuse Nairalanders of not knowing the reality of Nigerian politics but you are the one speaking as if guilty of that with your display of total political naivete above.

Firstly, who told you it is Northern elite and political class who matter in today's Nigeria? How many are they as a facet of vote-casting? It is the ordinary folks and talakwas of the North who have electoral power in a free and fair election and we all know they are solidly behind Buhari. Simple as that. Under the APC also, and with the dynamics of today, Buhari will finally have a platform where the same elite you claim are against him, and perhaps were indeed truly against him in 2011, will now be solidly behind him. Who would have though Bukola Saraki, quintessential PDP poster boy and schemer, would now be a strategist for Buhari? Face and accept the changing dynamics of politics today and stop this show of pedestrian thinking and analysis that make you appear as 'slow' as one of GEJ's 1852 refurbished coal-powered trains.

Secondly it is obvious that you have no capacity for pragmatism with your mention of Anambra, Delta and Enugu. Those are States likely to vote for GEJ anyway regardless of what the APC does yet winning or losing those States cannot determine the overall outcome of the election. Results in the North and SW will be the pivotal decider. Why should the APC then worry about the States you mentioned when there is probably no chance of claiming them against GEJ whether it is Buhari, Fashola or even Jesus Christ who is running as Presidential candidate of the APC? IS it not better, rather than being jack of all trade and master of non, for the APC to concentrates on where its real strength, capable of winning the Party the general election, lie? Dude, majority of your talk is simply patronising and sentimental yet ultimately devoid of analytical balance or pragmatic finesse.

talktimi:
Gbawe Gbawe Gbawe. Its too early for this please take your time o.

Quote from my first comment what u said that was "hateful" and "negative". I made a mistake, accepted and apologized for it. What else do you want me to do na ? Besides wouldn't it have been morally wrong for such a statement to be voiced out if in fact it was credited to Bisi Akande considering his influential personality in the party and the fact that he's supposed to appear neutral to all candidates even if he has a preferred choice ?

Okay. Apologies on this one occasion. After all you are the same posters who enters a thread to ignore the topic and begin attacking others. A case of your reputation preceding you. Well, keep up the civility and I will oblige in kind. ultimately, insults and tantrums get us all nowhere.

talktimi:
ok, my bad.

Yeah. Your "bad" because you always rush to speak hatefully and negatively of others without thinking or taking things in properly.

pendy79:
This combo is a killing and a sure banker( credibility and performer/reformer)

The only people who will negate this combo are TANdroids, bigoted ethnic and religious fanatics who forgot that Christians have ruled Nigeria in the last 12years out of 15years of our democratic experience since obasanjo in 1999 yet there is poverty, corruption, insecurity and impunity pervading our nationhood.

Let see who have the bloc to deliver electoral victory between a Northern that hero worship Buhari and a SW that loves Performance and purpose driven leadership irrespective of religious creed and some elements in the SE who assume an Ebere/azikiwe is getting.revenge for them for the events of 1967-1970 whether he perform or not doesn't matter as long as he has waged an illconceived and illprepare war against supposed terrorists that should have been exterminated years ago by a responsive Govt, he has their vote and that of their unborn children and also some elements in.the SS who feel na our pikin and our oyel he can do anything.

If the country is properly and govern purposefully it will be for the general good of all. We can't.continue to have PDP 15years of the Locust. We have suffer enough misery through the irresponsible style of governance they have given Nigeria.

I will rather vote individual with credible and known trait of responsesbility than think of which region he comes from or which religion he practised.

Salahadeen was a Muslim yet he is reverred and celebrated in Jewish history for saving thousand of.Jews but Hitler was a Christian but cursed for.the killing of millions of Jews during the 2nd world war.

Buhari/fashola is a yes yes for me based on their antecedents. A nightmare to the PDP and all ethnic/religious jingoist who can't see beyond his selfish prism/horizon.

Lets vote commonsense and performance rather than sentiments

It really is amusing how some ethnocentric and religiously intolerant element blind themselves to what is very obvious because of how they desperately want GEJ to continue in power. How many in the North will reject Buhari today considering GEJ has totally abandoned the North in the past five years and treated the region like some unfancied outpost of Nigeria ala 'Chukotka' Ambramovich? It is crystal clear to Northerners that GEJ and his ethnocentric supporters host disdain for the region and her plight. Boko Haram was allowed to spiral out of control and GEJ was busy dancing Azonto at a political rally literally before they could take away the dead bodies of the Nyanya bombing victims. This is the same GEJ who has failed to visit the North and show solidarity with the people of the region as all focused and brave leaders do worldwide. The North has seen a ferocious and unrelenting attack on its right to exist and be a legitimate part of Nigeria by the 'Lord's resistance army' movement of GEJ. My conclusion is that GEJ should forget the North if contesting against any Northerner let alone the ultra-popular Buhari who is a cult-like figure amongst the ordinary folks of the North GEJ has failed the most.

In the SW, and without dragging issues too long, is it not obvious many will go to the poll to vote for Fashola becoming substantive VP to Buhari because he is a much loved and proven performer most people in the region place far above the dour and misruling duo of GEJ and Sambo? Does it not make sense also that many in the SW, plus even Nigeria and the world beyond Africa, will believe Fashola will contribute immense technocratic finesse and efficacy to a Buhari presidency?

Secondly, it is most people's belief that Fashola is a Nigerian President in waiting. What better way to make this a foregone conclusion than by voting him as VP and next in line to replace Buhari? How many South-westerner, even if not particularly fond of Buhari, would sabotage the much loved Fashola for GEJ and Sambo who have done absolutely for the entire nation let alone the SW?

This is a potent combo for the reality of today but we cannot expect the ethnocentric, religously biased and "chop sand crew"(hell bent on post civil war vengeance against others to the extent of desperately viewing GEJ as the man to help them attain such never mind his hideous misrule of Nigeria ) to ever agree with the state of affairs on the ground and the commonsensical permutations matching the reality of today

debosky:
There are numerous other candidates in the APC - the key is for the party (including Buhari) to rally round and raise votes for whoever the party selects as its flag bearer. This thread isn't about floating other potential candidates.

That's the main problem many of you fail to grasp - you think an individual's vote pulling ability is the key to winning. Despite Buhari's personal popularity he has lost each and every election he has contested. That should give you food for thought.

The PDP doesn't win elections because of it's candidates' overwhelming popularity, they win because they can mobilise the electorate across the country not just in certain corners of the North. That is what any serious APC candidate will need to do.

It is obvious you have a problem with Buhari and are simply doing all that is possible to make the crime fit the man but the part in bold is clearly ridiculous and patronising of the intelligence of Nairalanders. Do you know the conditions Buhari contested under in the past and the real state of of affairs then? Are things the same today?

So as we do not draw this out too long, can I ask if you know what obtains in many nations of the world with two very strong political Parties competing against each other always like the USA, UK and even Ghana next door to us? Power tends to swing easily between those two Parties when the electorate is dissatisfied with the performance of the ruling Party.

When, since Buhari has been contesting and losing elections, has Nigeria had two very strong Parties competing against each other? Has it not been the big-for-nothing PDP monopolising power and rigging elections since 1999 because other Parties were simply too little, too poor, too disunited and inconsequential to give them a proper fight? Dude, when you do not even recognise the ultra-pivotal point I have made above for yourself, and continue only to focus on Buhari's past election losses in total disregard for how the political climate of Nigeria is vastly different today to what it was even in 2011, then I do not think anyone needs to give you even more salient reason (and there are many) why the Buhari who lost elections in the past is now the same man capable of securing a landslide victory against the PDP. Your bias against Buhari is the sort that clouds objective reasoning and ignores/disregards reality. Buhari's vote-winning ability is indeed key if managed properly by an opposition Party that is now vastly more powerful, more influential and a great deal more sagacious than anything else Nigeria has had in the past since our current democracy began in 1999.

ba7man:
With the so called transformation in the power sector by him, I experience more power failure than ever nowadays.

After. Almost 6yrs and increase in fuel prices, is this the transformation they boast about There are generators bursting my brain at the moment.

I wonder what part of nigeria the TANdroids live and how wretched their lives must be for this to be their best experience ever in Nigeria.

My brother, there was no transformation. Scams disguised as "transformation" is all that the ultra-corrupt GEJ, highly profligate and ridiculously materialistic GEJ is capable of delivering. The power sector "privatisation" is crony capitalism in reality. This is all an anti-people and materialistic pro-elite leader like GEJ is capable of delivering. GEJ, unlike Buhari, is not a friend or servant of ordinary Nigerians. He hates them. He is a pal of criminals, militants, AGIPs, cabals, "those who carry guns" (Rev.Ugolor) and the ruinous hands that have destroyed Nigeria over decades. His actions/inaction shows a firm commitment to helping those enemies of progress loot Nigeria continuously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism

Crony capitalism is a term describing an economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, or other forms of state interventionism

Crony capitalism is believed to arise when business cronyism and related self-serving behavior by businesses or businesspeople spills over into politics and government,[3] or when self-serving friendships and family ties between businessmen and the government influence the economy and society to the extent that it corrupts public-serving economic and political ideals.

Asoozy:
The beauty of democracy is that there are opposing sides and their are choices for the electorate. Forcing a candidate in another is not democratic in nature and I abhor that practise. While I agree that you do not support the general excuse in your small mind he is too old, never minding that he has integrity and a proven track record, all I ask is for you to bring other choices to our notice. Who know? Maybe I'll actually agree with your choice and see that there can be an alternative but rather you will just chat sh1t with pût any real prospects. You are just here to frustrate the process you have nos fresh ideas.

You are just a cantankerous human specie. At least I hope you're human.

Bro, stop wasting your time with theat oompa loompa. Everyone can fully appreciate he is only dedicated to talking because he likes the sound of his own voice and not because he has anything sensible to say.

Akande is 100% correct. The Buhari/Fashola combo, on so many levels, fulfils the yearnings of most Nigerians.

focus7:
Now he has amassed so much to d tune of $100m in 5yrs and has become the 6th richest president in Africa. No one we believe his shoeless story again.

Bro, do not be deceived by the $100 million ruse. It is a gross under-estimation. GEJ is worth likely $5 billion upwards in my opinion as per the scale of brazen and "I don't care" looting that has gone on under him in the past 5 years.

ashson:
There are ONLY two sets of people who hate Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (Rtd)-

~ Old thieves

~ Young fools

True or False?

True.

soroptimist:
That is why the dude have been tongue-tied,seriously looking for what to tell Nigerians whose eyes have become opened


GEJ is in serious soup!

Do you remember those Nollywood sycophants and Nigerian musicians singing and dancing around foolishly for "the boy with no shoes"? All of them are now so broke, courtesy of the hardship GEJ's woeful rule has inflicted on Nigeria, they are seeking political office. "Olusola" Desmond Elliot comes to mind. Yeye 'stomach infrastructure' clowns.

IbnJumah:
Nigerians don wise up..Once bitten twice shy

Indeed. It will be interesting to see what the new slogan will be since the GEJ government has scored F9 in virtually every sector to move Nigeria backwards horribly. I pity this useless Government. Not many sectors it can point to as areas of outstanding successes that has really transformed the lives of Nigerians. In fact they need to create a totally new ultra-woeful category to accommodate the failure of GEJ in relation to corruption. GEJ's new campaign slogan should be "I don't give a damn" because we all now know he really does not give a damn.

What is your opinion people

ssii:
Are you God? Don't be so sure. Nothing is impossible. With a free and fair elections,its going to be difficult for GEJ to win.

Leave such people. They are the sort , on another thread on Nairaland, thrashing the saharareporter poll where Buhari trounced GEJ by taking around 72% of an online vote. They called it fake and , expectedly, insinuated Saharareporter manipulated the poll. Absolute nonsense. I took part and voted. You could not vote twice from an IP address and the total votes stood at over 14,000.00 !!!!! What I see now is that the hardcore GEJ fans , consisting of the ethnic and religious bigot who cannot accept that Jonathan has run Nigeria aground, simply do not want to confront the reality of how Nigerians are sick to death of the ultra-corrupt, anti-people and hideously misruling GEJ. The man is truly shocking as a leader and Nigerians are appalled.

GEJ fans, because they are mainly stubborn and 'herded' ethnocentric folks with nil capacity for logical reasoning, forget that the desire for change was what got GEJ into power in 2011. GEJ was seen as change then and many expected miracles from a man they were sure would perform because he "had no shoes" and was a man many Nigerians assumed would be able to identify with ordinary folks and fight passionately on their behalf !!! Five years on, it is now Buhari who will fully benefit from the desire of Nigerians to have change.

We have seen GEJ in all his glory to know he is a king of corruption only in power to lead for the private jet-owning Oligarchs. How can Nigerians vote for a man they know cold evidence and unacceptable inaction indicts as the major player behind the fuel subsidy scam? To make matters worse, one of the main suspect of the fuel subsidy scam (Ifeanyi Uba) is now a major sponsor and coordinator behind TAN in what is complete confirmation Uba was always one of the disciples of GEJ and his 'field agent' in corruption. These are the sort of brazen and insensitive slap in the face Nigerians are fed up of. We now all appreciate that the crooks milking us dry are the same individuals pretending to hold the solutions to our problems. There is no doubt GEJ is a very corrupt leader running a huge ponzi scheme involving the massive enrichment of a criminal oligarchy with virtually all the wealth accruing to Nigeria and to the detriment of millions of ordinary Nigerians who continue to wallow in poverty. Some people will be shocked by the reality of how Nigerians are truly fed up with Ali Baba (GEJ) and his 40 thieves (Allison-Madueke, Adoke Bello, Ifeanyi Uba et al) to the extent they are all just itching for the chance to send him out of Aso Rock ASAP.

aljharem2:
Show us first before we take you serious and please don't present likes of fayemi and Tinubu as your vp because they will lose.

Fashola or nothing

Confused and hypocritical Aljbokoharem. You malign Fashola day in day out here and claim he has done nothing in Lagos (or do you want me to bring out your past posts) yet you are now shouting "Fashola or nothing"? I pity people who take you seriously here. Anyway, Nairalanders can see you in all your hypocritical glory below. Someone you claim is part of those that did nothing for the past 16 years is who you are advocating as APC VP with the words "Fashola or nothing"? You are beyond help or redemption. Nothing but a confused charlatan.

https://www.nairaland.com/newpost?topic=1948656&post=27133924

aljharem:
Shut up and answer the question

What has apc done in Lagos for the past 16 years

Apc is owning 1 trillion naira apart 4 trillion naira expenditure

oluamid:
All this talk and you still did not answer OP's question.

That is typical TANdroid and Jonathanian behaviour on display. Long on sentiments,irrelevant diatribe, distracting utterances and clannish zeal yet short on common sense and a readiness to stay on topic. The question OP asked is simple enough for even a kid of 5 to understand and provide a simple answer to.

naijababe:
If you can tell me how Buhari intends to get past our ridiculously inept and corrupt law-makers I just might agree with you.

My dear lady, the profligate maintenance of our legislators can be tackled with many approaches which can bear fruit. You must first remember that it is the huge remuneration of our legislators that Nigerians are angry with and not the corruption they participate in. Executive and institutional corruption(NNPC, NPF, Army, Customs, Immigration/border control et al) is , by far, the biggest killer of Nigeria. It is executive corruption behind the fuel subsidy scam that saw trillions stolen with no one punished to date. It is executive and institutional corruption behind the blatant stealing and lack of transparency in the NNPC that has gulped mind-boggling billions of dollars over several years with Nigeria having nothing to show for such. It is executive and institutional corruption ruining our armed forces. It is executive corruption entirely responsible for the SURE-P scam that has delivered nothing when the original argument was that savings from subsidy removal will transform Nigeria drastically. I could go on all day but the bottom line is that executive and institutional corruption is killing Nigeria and that is what Buhari must tackle first and foremost.

The unreasonably bloated cost of maintaining the NASS can be packaged as part of broad and holistic reforms to change the cost of governance in Nigeria. That is a veritable way forward. Because GEJ deliberately fails to address this issue does not mean Buhari will not and that the situation with the NASS is irreversible. The APC has also said it plans to look into this issue if able to get a majority in the upper and lower house. That Nigeria runs a hideously bloated arrangement gulping 65-70% in recurrent spending yearly is not disputed. Google it and you will see that there are tonnes of suggestions as to how to reverse this. Political will is needed which we know Buhari will operate with. That is another big plus in favour of Buhari. He is not the type to come in and be bullied by Senators, Governors et al as is the case with GEJ. With holistic and exemplary cost-cutting starting from the Presidency and the executive arm, in a period of 'national emergency' cost cutting reforms such as we saw after the credit crunch in Britain, the legislators will have no choice but to fall in line or risk the anger of Nigerians. Buhari is one of the few that can lead this charge.

He is no doubt a popular candidate and one capable of wresting votes from Goofluck, which is why my preference is for him to use his might to anoint a younger, more vibrant and articulate candidate

It is not as simple as that. Supporting a leader, within a complex and divided nation such as Nigeria, is not as easy as handing over a baton. This is not the time to take such a gamble only to then fail and thus hand Nigeria into the hands of those who have nearly run us aground already. What you ask for could easily be achieved via leveraging on the popularity and vote-winning ability of Buhari. We could do all we can to get Buhari to Aso Rock and then be assured of a vibrant replacement for him in perhaps 4 years or we can do as you say, gamble with a Ribadu-type as we did in 2011, and lose again to the greedy cabal killing Nigeria simply because us the educated elite want "young and vibrant" without the humility to accept this is not what majority of Nigerians will go for electorally. Have we learnt no lesson with the outing of Ribadu? We can gamble again egotistically and then may simply not have a nation called Nigeria much longer the way the present lot are carrying on. The issue is for educated folks to humbly key into what is required for the urgent 'rescue mission' Nigeria cannot afford to get wrong. Under Buhari you are guaranteed to see the "young, vibrant and articulate" leaders you hanker for everywhere and in transformational/important positions. If we gamble as you say and lose, then it will be a repeat of 2011 where GEJ came to power and simply flooded important positions with his inept cronies and minions to the detriment of Nigeria.

naijababe:
Mischievous questions and you know it. Apples and Papaya comparisons

Indeed and especially coming from a Fan of GEJ who is the leader of the ruling Party that saw it fit to present Ayo Fayose as a gubernatorial candidate when the same man had been disgraced out of Ekiti State house in the past and even impeached. The PDP that openly condones criminality is now trying to convince the world that the impeachment of Fayose was "wrong" just so he can become a governor and their 'man Friday' in the SW. We must remember as well that this happened under democratic rule. Where does our friend see similar to that happening outside Nigeria?

I then wonder how the above can be compared to Buhari running now as a candidate in an elective democracy when his first coming was as a military administrator under military rule. This is the problem with TANdroids and Jonathanians. I.e their clannish support for 'Messiah' GEJ that leaves totally disinterested in submitting themselves to the logic of the matter. They will always be found trying to use all manner of mischief and blatantly dubious reasoning to make the crime fit the man.

naijababe:
Give me a hug son and for the record I am personally not sold on the integrity 'ish'. As much as I cannot stand El-Rufai, I'd much rather have him as president than Buhari. Anyone who watched the debate of the 2011 elections between GMB, Ribadu and Shekarau and still wants Buhari as president needs his head examined.

Madam, you have to shun idealism and, for now, view issues pragmatically and realistically in eelation to want obtains today and what Nigeria must do to get back on track. Let us not fool ourselves. 2011 proved conclusively that Buhari is one of the very few leaders who can defeat GEJ who is a champion of corruption many will fight for and defend with their wealrh and sweat. I supported Ribadu in 2011 yet how well did he do? Should we gamble again, lose and get another 4 years of corruption-centred misrule because we want to be "forward thinking ", perhaps because we are in the educated and politically sophisticated minority, when the majority who will vote think very differently to me and you?

With Buhari we have the twin benefits of hosting a guaranteed vote-winner who will also shun corruption and , most importantly, empower the most talented to lead everywhere. It is not about wanting an Obama or Cameron-type President because that is what our world view of progress indicate to us personally. This is the mistake some of us made in 2011 and Nigeria suffered terribly for our elitist refusal to face the reality of our own people. It is about recognising the reality of Nigeria and working with that reality pragmatically till we can have a nation and electorate that will routinely embrace the Ribadus and Fasholas of the world for our top job. We are not at all at that level and must not fool ourselves that this is the case merely because a few of us would go out to vote an Utomi or EL-Rufai. This is the time to drop individual ego and think in terms of what is best for Nigeria and who the majority will embrace in what is now a desperate fight to rescue our nation from a corrupt and private jet-owning oligarchy.

Well-said OAM4J. I have the same opinion more or less. You and others know I supported Ribadu passionately in 2011 yet was always, even back then, approving of a merger than would see Ribadu step down for Buhari. Unfortunately that did not come to pass and Buhari contested under the newly formed CPC.

Every Nigerian will know that what Buhari achieved, i.e 12 million votes, was commendable given the reality of the day. The CPC was a brand new Party with minimal influence at the time. Buhari was underfunded and under-supported by many of our influential politicians whereas today the likes of Saraki, Amaechi, Aregbesola, Fashola and many, many, many more will be behind him and working passionately for his win if he becomes the APC candidate. He will also be the candidate of the biggest opposition Party in Nigeria which is an entirely different kettle of fish in relation to the past where the ACN and CPC split votes competing against Jonathan. Now it will boil down to Nigerians choosing between GEJ or Buhari. Imperfect Buhari may be but not many doubt his ability to fight corruption. Not many can accuse Buhari of crass materialism. No one can claim he covets private jets, 1 billion Naria food. No one can ever postulate that Buhari will profligately take huge entourages of politicians across the world on meaningless Jamborees at the expense of Nigeria. What Nigeria needs now is what Buhari has in abundance.

The SW was apathetic in 2011 and the few who showed up voted for GEJ in the majority because of the belief he represented "transformation" and a departure from the past. We all know this is not the case today. Without mincing words, it is now crystal clear GEJ is possibly the most corruption-friendly President Nigeria has ever had. Haven seen the worst of GEJ, I can easily see a lot of Yorubas overcoming their bias against Buhari to vote for him because they now know it is unthinkable to give GEJ another 4 years with which he will use to destroy Nigeria further. The time is right for Buhari and events have converged correctly to mean his chances of landslide victory has never been this bright if everyone play their part.

CyberWolf:
its not about writing long epistle..just wait and see.. Just three months away and you will get the shock of your life...

Call it what you will. People like yoi do not do reality anyway with how you inanely postulate that Nigerians will aberrantly vote in GEJ they now know, without shadow of doubt, represents only corruption and misrule.

Have you noticed no one talks of "fresh air" anymore? Goodluck to you and the failed messiah you have decided to follow off the cliff. Nigerians will choose genuine change in 2015. No "boy with no shoes" ruse will work this time because it is now obvious that the boy now has thousands of ahoes and loves private jets while Nigerians wallow in poverty.

adonbilivit:
sorry about the error...atleast he has been a member of parliament. but please ignore that and see reasons with me.

Sorry for my rash words. I apologize. I thought you were the usual rabble rousers who postulate chaos and enmity over everything that should be about civility and maturity. I do get your argument. It is one I actually agree with haven benefited from similar via being born in the West and thus having dual nationality. There is nothing I wish to do or achieve anyone has stopped me gaining. That does not mean I should then be impudent, egotistic and openly disdainful of all around me. Most Yorubas are tolerant and will likely have no problems with the proposed indigene ruling if not for events of the past few years. Many Igbos , under GEJ some of them take to be a reincarnation of Ojukwu, have gone public with their hatred of the Yorubas and their complete dedication to fighting and proving a point to them perhaps because they remain vengeful about the war mirroring what Osita Okechukwu termed "chop sand syndrome".

This is why when some Igbos should talk of humbly serving others they will prefer to say they want to "control" them. When they should be gracious about their good fortunes, which others also have in abundance yet are silent about, they will say they "are "supreme" and have "enslaved" others in their land and "control their economy". If they "pull out" then this State will crash and similar braggart bullcrap. They will take to the net every single damn day to insult Yorubas as Lazy/dirty/ugly etc. This is despite the fact that the Yorubas appear to have moved on from the civil war with how they host the Igbos equitably and graciously in their domain since the end of the war and generally refrain from incendiary behaviour towards them. Bro, have you noticed on this thread it is the Yorubas who are against this indigene proposition while it is Igbos in favour? Before the very divisive GEJ came along, when so much hate was not dished out in cyberspace daily, most Yorubas would probably not have cared either way. Many of us warned the hate-mongers but they would not listen. Things are now what they are and we are back in the days ethnic tension, loathing and distrust that was a precursor to the civil war. Let the haters enjoy the cold war they have created when we all, especially young folks, should have moved on to be focused on developing a modern and progressive nation.

CyberWolf:
Buhari has been winning online from time immemorial...

Continue to deceive yourself. This is not 2011 When GEJ was "fresh air" and "boy with no shoes". The lies Nigerians have told themselves have now come full-circle to show many what is important above everything else. Most Nigerians convinced themselves that "illiterate" leaders of the past who did not have University degrees were the problem of Nigeria. They rushed to support GEJ because he is "educated" and a 'departure' from our past.

Now GEJ has completely and convincingly made the case that a crook is a crook whether illiterate or possessing 10 PHDs. inversely, we all now appreciate that a good and pro-people leader remains such whether he is 85 or 25. GEJ has failed and Nigerians have worsened lives, greater poverty and more stressful existence as evidence of his failure. They will embrace a man (Buhari) they will now feel, more than ever, is needed for his sterling qualities and character that has never faded over years and decades. In 5 years GEJ has gone on to show the world conclusively that being "young" and "educated" is no guarantee of efficient and anti-corrupt leadership. If anything, the monumental looting and corruption going on under GEJ, which is worse than what was seen in the past, may be proof an older leader from a more disciplined and less materialistic time is perhaps precisely what Nigeria needs right now.

ShehuAba:
Oga stop all these your blabbing. You were asked a simple question, and all you could vomit is this thrash.

Stop all these politics of sentiments, it won't take you anywhere.

After all, the OP never mentioned been a good leader or not, he simply asked, in a debate who will fair better between the duo.

@ Topic,

It's a fact that Fashola will floor GEJ in any debate, I doubt if there's any Nigerian politician today, that can withstand him though in intellectual discourse, and to always back up everything said with facts.
Any day, Any time BRF will oust GEJ in a debate.

Thank you. One can always trust clannishly insecure Jonathanians to waffle irrelevantly and off-topic when they feel their lord and master is being maligned. The OP's question is simple and direct enough. GEJ will not even show up to receive what will 100% be a public humiliation. He will be too "busy" at the last minute.

olatunji21:
guy Y u dy use style insult GEJ na.. haha Fashola. and Oga Joo.. Khaaki no b leather na..

Exactly Even the most die-hard fan of GEJ will never be caught insinuation GEJ can stand Fashola in a public debate. It would be like putting a ten year old boy in the ring with Mike Tyson in his prime. No contest at all.

adonbilivit:
if countries like the UK and US allow aliens nationalise and become its citizens then what is the big deal in Musa becoming an indigene of Ogun state which is even still in His country? the likes of rapper Wale, Chuka Umunna(he contested for the position of British prime minister this year) and chimamanda Adichie are a few examples of Nigerians that are now considered Americans/Britons as the case may be. google these names. don't sound like you are intimidated or scared of healthy competition.
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NB: I wont reply you again. i ve got work to do. good day

You better stick to talking of what you are sure about instead of inventing ridiculous tales because of a propensity for inane exaggeration. Umunna is not and has never been leader of his Party (Labour) so how could he have "contested" to be PM? What happened to Ed Miliband while Umunna "contested for the position of British prime minister this year" ? The delusions of grandeur troubling people like you always lead you to practise 'projections of grandeur' also. Umunna, for now, is a member of Parliament representing Streatham and shadow business secretary.

It seems most posters replying here have missed the main point. Is this hasty rebuttal, above everything else, not illustratively indicative of how the PDP is very scared of Buhari? when they have a rebuttal for Buhari's 'outdooring' speech even before the General finished making it, can APC supporters not see the big picture to discern what matters instead of coming here to engage scared TANdroids and Jonathanians in senseless back and forth? Think people, think !!! Buhari is acting like a President in waiting and the PDP, with their actions and full attention focused on him completely , are showing they are fearful this is the case also.

Does the speed with which this rebuttal appear not show a fearful government that has ordered all its sycophants and expensively paid 'mouthpieces' to watch exactly and obsessively what Buhari says and does so as to find a way to counter any possible 'damage' the same way most football managers facing Messi may obsessively watch tapes of the maestro footballer so as to devise a way to stop him?

Can we also not see that the PDP is not a serious ruling Party? Rebuttal for Buhari's presidential declaration speech ready in seconds after the General finished talking yet weeks before anything was said about the disappearance of the Chibok girls while years after the shameful event no single fuel subsidy scammer has being brought to book !!!! Think well-meaning Nigerians and see what you need to see !!! The evil looters who want things to remain as they are, so the looting can continue, are already at work. It will be up to all of you to raise your game and see/note what matters.

aljharem2:
No it was Tinubu that sold us. Stop the lies and propaganda.

Why did APC vote Tambawal over the Yoruba woman competing. Yet you say it is not about ethnicity but competency

You APC people are liars, hypocrites and not consistence.

We all know you are fake, a born liar and not very bright but your comments here confirms that you lack even basic ability for contextual reasoning. So Akande's grouse begins and end with the SW losing the Speakership of the house of Reps? If a Yoruba had become speaker, with no empowerment anywhere else at all, this would have amounted to GEJ 'including' the Yoruba ethnic group for you? Tragic you do not have the intelligence to see the big picture and appreciate what Akande is saying in its entirety.

publisher:
LOL...two or three APC Warriors sit down and decide to start a Naiaraland thread using multiple IDs, wishing to swing public opinion of Buhari.

All of una be MUMU.

You've all forgotten that even in 2011 Buhari won elections on Nairaland.

It seems BBC's news report on the efficacy of internet warriors has jolted the fulani herdsmen in APC and spurned them into totally embracing the IT age.

Buhari cannot win in 2015, dont let @Gbawe's big English decieve all of una.

That's if all the comments so far on this useless thread are not from @Gbawe using multiple handles.

Bro, fear dey catch you? Relax and enjoy the show. No shaking