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johndal:
does it mean nobody has gottn this job at all abi how?I can't still understand or decide to go solo after securing the job.guys make una open up ooo.if una don get this job biko.

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It is and has always been the old VON factory in Ojo, Lagos. This is old news. Have you been hibernating?

Malawian:
Oga, pleaase start from the begining of the conspiracy.

The people who did the feasibility studies for the Steel plant advised the FB to site it in the region between Awka and Onitsha in Anambra state.

You have not told us how they latter moved it to Ajaokuta in the first place. Please start from the original conspiracy, lets move from there.

Thanks a lot.

Please don't tease us brother. Tell the story. Most of us genuinely do not know. Tell the full story so we can learn. Many of us are still learning about the country we live in day after day.

Menzy86:
Now this is still the AFRICAN problem. Every statement has a contex. I quote him because regardless of what you dig up about him and how bad his foundations were, almost ALL he said manifests till this day. I will just overlook the veiled insult from you because arguing on social media in my opinion is for retards which I am not. Try understanding the CONTEXT of statements b4 concluding. It shows enlightenment.

It's ironic you immediately start talking about context. Did you read this part of my reply?

"He did not mention that his mission in Africa was to create a land of people in the image of the "African" he spoke of - visionless, dependent, unintelligent, impulsive, physically strong cannon fodder for the complete exploitation of the Royal Niger Trading Company."

If you read that part and understood it, then that reply would be off point.

Menzy86:
"in character and temperament, the typical African of this race type is a happy, thriftless excitable person lacking in self control, discipline and foresight. Naturally corageous and naturally courteous and polite, full of personal vanity, with little sense of veracity, fond of music and loving weapons as an oriental loves jewelry. His thoughts are concentrated on the events and feelings of the moment, and he suffers little from the apprehension for the future, or grief for the past" Lord Lugard in 'our dual mandate' 1926.
Just read this piece and compare with this assessment by Lugard 90 years ago of Nigerians/Africans. Seems we have an inherent propensity to self-destruct. I believe being strategic and progressive is NOT a function of your race BUT personal decision. Im so lost for words when I read reports like this. I have made a personal decision though. Don't know about you.....

Frederick Lugard the colonial thug and renowned paedophile did not mention that this "African" he spoke of existed in the late 1800s to early 1900s - nearly 400 years after his first contact with invading Europeans.

He did not mention that this African despite having more than 5,000 years of recorded history and several great civilisations welcomed Europeans with open arms instead of war, and that it was in fact the greedy, violent and immoral European who turned him into the beast he became.

He did not mention that over 300 years of decapitations, chain beatings, chopping off of arms and feet, throwing of infants to alligators and crocodiles, forceful and permanent separation of families, kidnapping and shipping to sugar and cotton plantations in the Americas, unabated war, destruction, rape and torture, and decimation of entire populations and cultures, this "African" had lost his mind.

Frederick Lugard did not mention that the only reason he was here in the land of this "African" was to steal everything the African had and ship it to Europe via something called the Royal Niger Trading Company. He did not mention that he and several other colonial thugs such as Lewis Vernon Harcourt whom Port Harcourt was named after, were notorious paedophiles who regularly forced African women at gunpoint to give up their children to be sodomised by them. He did not mention that his mission in Africa was to create a land of people in the image of the "African" he spoke of - visionless, dependent, unintelligent, impulsive, physically strong cannon fodder for the complete exploitation of the Royal Niger Trading Company.

The only thing worse that seeing his violent anti-African warfare in text is seeing a descendant of his African victims quoting his words as if they are somehow valid.

Read your history man!

theV0ice:
So what then is the way out of this problem? Do we keep on living in the Shadow of that horrid past? How long will we rely on that excuse to explain away our wickedness to our own selves?

Consider the ogas in your earlier post reproduced below



Is it still the effect of the slavery that made them so evil minded, greedy and devious?

YES. As I said, the effects of our history are multi-generational and because we have such a morbid fear of history and the past, we do not want to have an honest conversation about it and examine why we are where we are. That is the only way to move forward. If you don't know where you are coming from, you cannot know where you are going. These character defects are not somehow embedded in the genetic code of Nigerians. They are IMPLANTED defects which have grown through centuries of direct and indirect torture, genocide, starvation and economic subjugation. You don't leave the "shadow of the horrid past" by saying so and pretending that you can somehow "get over" 400+ years of history on your own. You do not have that power. You get out of the shadow of the past by examining it honestly and in depth and analysing its impact on the present, before planning for how to change the future.

Blocking out the past is not a virtue at all. In fact it is extreme foolishness.

We can see they even taught honest Germans how to be crooked.

If Germans were honest, they would not have left Germany to colonise land in West Africa (Togo) and call it part of German "Lebensraum". If the Germans from Bifinger Berger were intrinsically honest people, they would have declined the offer and left. After all my dad who was part of the system refused to take part in those civil service practises even though he missed out on huge payoffs and even promotions for not "playing ball". That is what honest people do when faced with dishonesty. Not carrying out fraud and then saying that it was Nigerians that "taught them how to be crooked."

My friend, Indians also suffered in the hands of Britons. I l read of a restaurant where Gandhi wished to enter in England and the sign above the door read "dogs and Indians not allowed"

That to me was terribly debasing yet the Indian rose above it. We should stop making excuses.

You didn't read the part of my post where I said that women were raped in front of their families just to prove a point to the natives about hierarchy. Children were thrown to alligators to be eaten just because some people wanted Alligator skin. Imagine realising that the value of your child's life is not as much as that of the skin of a dead alligator.

How are you comparing that to Ghandi seeing an offensive sign in a restaurant in England? Is that the same level or degree of dehumanisation? You yourself are guilty of trying to run away from history by equating two separate and completely different things. It would be very difficult and traumatising to examine your history scientifically and analyse the impact of what happened on our present reality, so you are taking the easy way out and blaming the victims for what was done to them. This is intellectually hollow and dare I say quite cowardly.

Engaging with the truth of our history is not "making excuses", it is simply THE TRUTH.

And THE TRUTH is something that too many Nigerians are just not able to handle.

theV0ice:
I have no reason to doubt your story and that's why i refuse to support the excuse of ''the whites are to blame''

A whiteman who refuses to play ball will not get anything in Nigeria. If the whites couldn't stop the Indians, why should they stop us?

Is it not a shame to us that the Halliburton directors who paid bribes to Nigerian officials are all in jail in the USA while the Nigerians who demanded for and collected the bribe are still walking free??

I say it again......Somebody other than the God we all know created the Nigerian

The major thing you are leaving out is that the whites may have enslaved the Indians, but they did not consciously try to destroy Indian society and permanently damage the very mental integrity of the Indian. They merely came in and ruled those who were already ruling the Indians, so for the most part Indian society actually maintained its entire structural integrity.

With Africans and with West Africans in particular, the story was very different. Imagine giving birth to a baby and watching a white man from England take him or her from you and use him or her as live bait for an alligator because he wants the alligator skin. (This was a real and widespread practice btw). Imagine being whipped and forced to work for another man on your father's land knowing that you cannot help yourself and your people cannot help you. Nobody can save you. The only thing you can do is just pray to God and try to make it to tomorrow.

Day after day after day after day after day.

How will your mindset remain the same? Will you not become insane? Will you not start to direct your hatred of your oppressor inward after it dawns on you that you cannot defend yourself against him and he can do whatever he wants with you? He can rape your woman in front of you and your children and if you so much as look away he can put you to death right there on the spot. How will your children grow up?

Will they understand the value of pride in identity? Strength of character? Integrity? Courage? Long-sightedness and foresight?

No! All they will know is how to survive TODAY and how to be better than the other sorry negroes that look like them.

That is the slave orientation that was deliberately and systematically bred in us for more than 3 centuries. Your parents, their parents, their grandparents, the generation before them and the one before that were soaked and immersed in this toxic and hopeless slave culture created by white invaders.

So when you see these behaviours, rather than concluding that there is something genetically wrong with the African human, try to put it in context. No other people on earth have had their very humanity so brutally destroyed as West Africans, and two of the largest slave ports in West Africa were right here in Lagos (Ebute Metta and Badagry). Our history pervades our reality everyday and there is no running away from it.

theV0ice:
When i read some stories of how we Nigerians actively destroy the same Nigeria, i'm tempted to believe God concession-ed the creation of Nigerians to one wicked entity who was offended by his wife just before he started the work.....

My dad who worked for a German steel company told me a story very similar to this but it was very difficult to believe that time...until i read this piece today.

How can human beings enjoy hurting themselves so much??

I can tell you a story about my dad when he was in the civil service and Julius Berger was still a small startup company from Germany.

The Lagos-Badagry Expressway (JB's first major project in Nigeria) was a contract JB got after presenting the smallest, most professional quote of all the firms that tendered.

After the tender, the 'Ogas' called the Germans aside and told them "See, that's not how we do things here. You can't present a bill this small and get a contract in Nigeria."

And to cut a long story short, more than 15 ogas had houses built for them or substantial cash kickbacks paid to them after JB re-tendered and came out with a winning bid of more than 15 times their initial estimate.

That was when JB decided to set up shop permanently in the autocidal sweetheart country known as Nigeria.

True story.

This country's darkness did not begin today.

oyetpel:
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SkinnyDude:
i swear you no get sense at all... chelsea fc has being chelsea fc hundreds of years ago... abrahimovic just acquired it recently... he's not the founder... but in this case, ifeanyi uba founded the club.. he built everything. registered the club

Bros that's not true.

The club was known as Gabros FC (owned by the industrialist Gabros) before Ifeanyi Ubah bought it. Gabros has been around for decades in the Nigerian league.

Renaming the club after himself is nothing more than an act of self promotion.

He did not create the club. It's been around for decades. He just bought it less than two years ago.

The Abrahamovich comparison actually works. Abrahamovich has done a lot more for Chelsea than Ifeanyi Ubah has done for Gabros. Abrahamovich invested more than 1 billion pounds in the club and is currently investing in expanding Stamford Bridge to 60,000 capacity, and all that without naming the club after himself.

Ifeanyi Ubah has not even renovated the ramshackle Rojenny Sports Complex that the club uses.

Flying Fulani Cow

taiocol:
And Nigerian businesses don't like giving back to the hands that feed them. Still imagining how many people from Manchester take Chivita Juice

I stopped buying Chivita when they did that nonsense. I make my money in Nigeria and the club I support is in Nigeria. Why should I financially support Manchester United by buying Chivita when my club owes players up to half of their wages since the league ended? I don't care if the formula of Chivita is the seed of everlasting youth, I am never buying a pack of Chivita ever again. Foolish people.

safarigirl:
Why the anti-Oliseh sentiments? I don't expect us to win this trophy, cuz our home-based players are somewhat terrible compared to those of DRC and North Africans them....

No need to attack Oliseh still, just hope for the best

It was home-based players that won the U-23 AFCON last month. It's a common misconception that Nigerian home based players are poor. Actually it is the league that is poor, not them. And the proof is that foreign clubs keep buying Nigerian players. We actually have one of the best local standards of play on the entire continent. We just cannot seem to put together a decent league to retain the best players and ensure they are not owed consistently. That is our problem.

Lalasticlala this should be on the FP.

Now, those of us who work in marketing communications in Nigeria know the dirty secret of the industry - brand managers of all the major brands suffer from a LACK OF VISION. Whether it is Diageo or Nigerian Breweries or Coca Cola or Pepsico or WAMCO or UAC or any of the other big firms, their constituent brand managers are all a group of clueless middle aged people who got to that position by playing the office politics game and running over other people in the rat race.

Once they get there, they delegate all their work to agencies and the agencies regularly pitch the NPFL to them but guess what?! They don't want to hear about NPFL because it requires thinking, original strategy that you cannot read from a marketing textbook, real market research, authentic vision, real insight (and not Twitter analytics), and above all, IT IS A LOT OF WORK. These guys do not want to work for their N500,000 monthly paychecks!

So instead they will present proposals to the Board to pay the Barclays Premier League N300,000,000 to appear for 3 seconds on the electronic pitchside billboard during Crystal Palace vs Swansea. Then they will take a picture of the pathetic, bland, useless little advertisement as it appears on matchday and post it on Twitter and pay small boys 5k each to start trending it like an achievement. Then they will go and use Keyhole and tell themselves that their "online campaign" had "79 million impressions" and they will pat themselves on the back, well done! We have worked! We deserve a big bonus!

Just another insight into how ridiculous everything about this country is.

Crownvillar:
I agree with most of what you have written, but the part I don't get is: Why do we have to wait for decentralisation, regional government or true federalism? What is stopping any Governor/State government from diversifying and maximising their own internal income in the present political climate? Is it impossible for the states to create wealth in present day Nigeria?

Yes, it is impossible because the current unitary structure of Nigeria makes it illegal for states to exploit their own economic resources and create their own competitive advantage. Everything belongs to Abuja. So for example Enugu cannot mine its own coal or steel, Kogi cannot mine its limestone. Osun cannot mine its gold and Zamfara cannot mine its Uranium. Everything belongs to the solid minerals ministry in Abuja so all the states can do is collect taxes on commercial activities, collect monthly federal allocations and borrow from financial institutions.

This was the structural imbalance that Jonathan's national conference addressed in its totality but we know who made sure he never got a chance to implement it because all that fills their brains after marrying little girls is oil, oil, oil and more oil.

Funny thing about this is that Aba and Onitsha manufacturers will be laughing to the bank.

I remember when I was serving in Ekiti and I bought one of those small Tiger generators, I had no idea the whole thing was made right here in Nigeria, in Aba. They sold it to me at imported price and I had no idea until one day when I had to replace a part and then I realised it was entirely locally fabricated.

The thing served me well for that whole year sha. The joke ultimately, as always is on Nigerians.

Vote out of spite, end up rewarding the people you were trying to spite.

Very funny something.

tgmservice:
Anybody on this forum that will open his mouth and say those boys are truely u-17 that just finished second school, may your road be rough

You are the purest form of 1d10t in existence.

OROSUNBOLB:
What is all this noise about Yoruba people? These people single handedly ensured Jonathan was made President Of Nigeria. Falana,Odumakin,Obasanjo,Soyinka etc do not sound like Igbo or Ijaw names! Jonathan failed and he was voted out,simple. Hausa/Fulani did not trick Yoruba people in 2011 when they voted massively for Jonathan but now that they voted against him in 2015 because of his widely acknowledged poor performance,Yoruba people were tricked!

Yoruba people will judge Buhari's performance at the end of his tenure and vote for or against him (if he decides to contest) base on their conviction.

We have no regret whatsoever showing Jonathan the way out ! We are ready to do it ten times over!

The same treatment awaits Buhari if he fails to fulfil his promises.

Yoruba,we fear no foe!

Bros abeg shut up with your delusion of grandeur. Nobody appointed you as Yoruba spokesperson, what is all the "we"?

Face front abeg!

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macklef:
You forgot:

Still struggle to graduate
Still struggle to find a job

Where will the jobs come from? Shebi what all of you want is an economy built on magic. Support local industries no, even your boxers must be imported. How can money circulate? How will banks lend? How will the real sector grow? How will jobs be created?

What you people know is to dance to Wizkid, chase woman and go to church.

Never feel sorry for young Nigerians because they are their own problem.

Tomorrow, stand atop a tour bus and wave a ridiculous political party symbol while showering these very suffering people with N200 bills and they will follow you like cattle without ever once even trying to think about whether you have an agenda for them or what it is.

The horrible truth I've seen is that the average German or Chinese 21 year-old is a more focused and mature person than the average African 27 year-old. The only thing our young people are good at is suffering. They know how to eat all manner off sand and live like cockroaches. They know how to make fun of their situation and convert poverty and misery into humour. They know how to vote for a political candidate because he promised them monthly handouts of less than $27 each.

The Chinese 21 year-old from a rural area who is as poor as his Nigerian agemate is looking for what he can do to move forward in life. Every government scheme, scholarship, business or job opportunity he can find he will try. He is obsessed with making a name for himself and leaving a legacy. His Nigerian counterpart only wants to discover dollars under his bed one day and then buy a car, build a house, marry a wife and 'jaiye jaiye' because apparently that is what life is all about.

Every poor Chinese young man is looking for how to move to Africa to exploit the vast range of opportunities. Africa is to poor Chinese people now what America was to poor European people in the 16th century. But the young Africans who live ontop of literal goldmines will sit down and complain from morning to night about 'goffment'. Then the Chinese will come to that goldmine and start mining legally or illegally, then you will see the poor Africans working for the Chinese for peanuts and complaining about how they are being ripped off and "goffment" is not protecting them.

If anyone comes to tell them the truth that there is no shortcut to ending their problems, they will shout "impale him!" and follow the pretender who tells them he will do magic for them as a politician or religious entrepreneur.

No matter what, I can't pity Nigerian youth again. You lot need to pity yourselves first.

Please just don't mention Jonathan.

He is chilling with his family and enjoying his life.

For the good work he performed in this country, he will forever be blessed. He's not missing Aso Rock I'm sure.

It's us who were so foolish as to jump on one foolish international hash tag campaign created by APC's PR firm (AKPD Global Associates owned by David Axelrod, close friend of Barack Obama) to discredit Jonathan who will suffer for our foolishness.

Buhari is not going anywhere. He's going to rule until 2019, possibly until 2023 with the finest Fulani tradition of extreme nepotism and wholesale ineptitude. And there's nothing you will do about it. Nothing.

Protest? Try it.

Election? LOOOOL.

Shebi Jonathan was "clueless"?

Una eye go see something.

Next time God sends you a leader to free you from slavery, maybe in another 20 years, if you like follow the slavemasters to bring him down again.

Na you sabi.

Reference:
Actually that is what I will be looking out for, tactical competency rather than the result of the match because frankly we have won enough trophies in age grade soccer yet failed time and again to push on to the very highest levels and I for one am rooting for Manu to succeed Keshi, that's what is important to me, the long term, the future. The Germans are European champions so the result is unlikely going to favour us. It is the performance that matters

And we are what? African runners up abi?

Abeg go work.

So if I don't have terrestrial TV or Star Times, I cannot watch my national team play?

Ok then.

Of course this thread cannot have more than 2 pages! Afterall is it not an exposure of the most hypocritical set of people in West Africa calling themselves "progressives"?

Nigerians, continue with your selective blindness!

You will get your reward for all your actions in full.

Just continue.

Lordave:
Jisos Kraist!


Nigeria fifa is watching you o

How can you guys claim Kingsley is 20 years?

That guy backed me to church when I was a kid, he cleaned up my poo and bathed me. How is he still 20 years?

Person wey dey shave 3 times a day(three square shave) yet his old age dey shine like sun

We know. He even has 6 grandchildren and you're one of them.
Abeg yimu jor! Hater oshi!

CFCfan:
The Defensive midfielder needs to wake up in the 2nd half. Brazil has almost had a field day running the midfield

We need a third man in midfield. Success and K10 are enough firepower upfront so I'd take off Awoniyi and bring on Idowu or Sokari.

Early gra-gra. No way the Brazilians can maintain this pace for 30 mins, not to talk of 90. We're winning this.

Empredboy:
Guys lets b truthful 2 ourselves, our boys are more than 20yrs. Tell me where will many of this guys b in 5yrs timer? The same way their seniors disappeared too?

Yet you're up at 2am to watch them. Their success enrages you but still you can't leave them alone. Is this life?

nameee:
These guys don old abeg. u-20 we just dey deceive ourselves.

You're just mad at yourself I know. See these kids on global TV. And you're up at 2am to watch them. Stings doesn't it?

tbaba1234:
I have seen Nigerians put to question iheanacho's age to man city fans abroad. It is so irritating. This boy grew up with the system. He is certainly within the age range. But we love to tarnish our already battered image.

The only reason big clubs are signing our youths is because of the MRI. In 2009, how many big clubs signed our players. We have no credibility.

I knew what I had achieved in life before I turned 20. I just turned 25 and I know where I am in life. I don't know why many Nigerians have a big problem understanding that just because they were still wearing nappies and rolling tyres at 17, that doesn't mean that other people didn't have the intelligence, foresight and ability to achieve great things at a young age.

These people are not hating on Iheanacho per se - they just hate looking at anyone who reminds them of their own uselessness and lack of success in life. Why won't they doubt his age when they see an 18 year-old from the same country as them who faced the same difficulties as them on the verge of breaking into the first team of one of the world's biggest clubs and becoming a global superstar?

They cannot deal with the reality - that they have underachieved in life and that all the excuses they create to make themselves feel better about their lack of achievement in life are all nonsense, and that other people are more intelligent and more capable than they are.

I faced similar boneheads when I came back to Nigeria to do my youth service. You would see 40-something year old civil servant earning N40,000/month as a 'Director' and feeling like he was a 'boss'. Then they saw me and their stomach would start paining them. I know what I went through in that bush called Ekiti state.

Now I know where I am and what I'm doing and those people aren't even in my rear view mirror but everyday I still come across people who look at me like I cheated them of their money. They can't grasp how this young guy has the audacity to be successful, that's the Nigerian mindset!

They cannot stand to see a successful young African who looks like them because it reminds them of what they have failed to achieve in life! They don't mind seeing a successful 18 year-old Brazilian or German. They don't even mind seeing Luke Shaw earning £100,000/week at Manchester United at 21 years of age, after all he is British. Let Mikel Obi earn £80,000/week at Chelsea and see the same people foaming at the mouth and hating his success.

I really hate this African mentality, this crabs-in-a-bucket mentality.

Why is it so difficult to see a young, successful Black man and just leave him alone or appreciate his success? Why must you hate on him? Does he owe you?

Davik01:
any change besides increase in height is nt acceptable by me. Theze changes seen in dez dudes also take place wen a 3oyr oldman starts handling cash.

Obviously you haven't handled cash in your life because you fail to realise that a) they have been together since 2010 on the NFF U-13 programme which then became U-15, then U-17. b) They came through an MRI scan which even sometimes excludes people below the age cutoff because of how stringent its measures are and c) they have not for the most part "handled any cash" at all. With the exception of Success, the rest of the team is playing at youth teams and academies in Nigeria and Europe - they haven't even signed professional contracts yet. Except Sokari's salary at Enyimba (less than 250k/month) is your definition of "handling cash".
Rubbish post.