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exotiqueify:
Harsh truth....Knew i could always count on you. But truth is, i just started at the current place, not long... I am so confused. Can we chat please? With the number you gave me before?

Email would be better, because I'm not using that number anymore and I don't want to put up my number here because it's a public forum.

Kobicove:
A medical doctor should be able to afford to pay reasonable wages but no he/she will not cos an average Nigerian has an issue with paying for services rendered

There's even one of them on this thread accusing the victim of being an "ingrate".

exotiqueify:
I'm currently sitting on a job offer (already signed), to begin ASAP, but working currently somewhere else. The new offer is [/b] from a more structured environment[b], but its a renewable contract, and very possible staffing at the end of the year(based on performance of course). Current job is not quite structured, still in the development stage, but might launch soon. The only perk i'm seeing in the new job is proximity and shift-based. Current job? well? no perks yet. I am not quite concerned about the pay now, just want to grow my career, which the new job is most likely to offer. What do you advise? Matured responses please.

cc: Debbie, GEJPosterity

I think it's very obvious what you should do. You've said that one of the jobs offers more of an opportunity to grow, is a more structured environment, and is closer to where you live. The fact that it is a renewable fixed-term contract doesn't make it any less secure than the present one, because in reality, no job is secure. The management at your current place will dump you without thinking twice if it works to their advantage. Your only loyalty in the corporate world should be to your own interests. There is no paddy in the jungle, and Nigeria is a jungle.

Having said that, keep your eyes wide open wherever you are going, and if possible try not to leave where you are on a bad note. As you said, the ultimate aim is to grow your career. You don't grow your career through loyalty - that's one of the biggest lies told to us when we were growing up. You grow your career by making the most of opportunities as they arise.

It's your decision at the end of the day.

ayoolanr:
Fvcking a55 licking dwib!!! Spineless advice like yours is what perpetuates the bad attitude/treatment meted out on employees!!!! Fvcking gutless, zero integrity looser!!!!

Don't mind them. Spineless b1tchasses.

Hacked election. You African politicians do not understand what you are getting yourselves aligned with. This thing called election hacking is the proverbial tiger that has you on its back riding for now. You should know where you will end up. But it's none of my business.

Jerysinx:
you are first of all a non-Nigerian
a negative poor brat
a demonic stagnant individual
having yoghurt in place of brains!
how could you have such big eyes and yet can't see your country better than the world!
wait....
are you born again?
repent this foolery u parade in!
it's highly demonic! I recommend TB Joshua to help you!

So I should fry beans?

Bobbyjay001:
bros,I need your enlightment on the septic tank issue. Is it that they have a centralised septic tank that all sewages in d country are deposited or what? If that's d point,then they must have dug a big septic ditch to serve as septic tank. Pls enlight me. Am in the dark on d issue raised herein.

It means the city in question has a centralised sewage treatment system.

See here for a more in depth explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewage_treatment

uyplus:
And they expect partners with high end cars to keep their cars running on the uber platform at a ridiculously low price? Have they thought about cost of maintanance of these vehicles and the financial burden on the partner? I since withdrew 3 out of my 5 cars on Uber. My drivers once told me that some even riders look down on 1 of my cars which is a toyota yaris, as if they can even afford 1 sef. Uber is dead in Abuja..

Uber riders in Nigeria are one very stupid set of people. They're the reason I withdrew my car from that platform. Very useless people with all sorts of behaviour and attitudes.

Rossikk:
At the rate universities are springing up in Nigeria, how could anyone have the perfect figure at their fingertips all the time? We're not like Zimbabwe where you can count their universities on the fingers of one hand. We're a huge country. Africa's largest economy.

Wow, you have 14 fingers?

No wonder you're so dumb, I didn't know you suffer from a genetic mutation.

Rossikk:
Idiot...so one article in Al Jazeera negates what everyone else is saying, which is the Zimbabwe economy is comatose?

In the link below, your paradisal Zimbabwe is being called a ticking time bomb of a collapsed economy.

http://thezimbabwemail.com/economic-analysis-40324-dying-zimbabwe-economy-a-ticking-bomb.html

Who is the "everyone"? You? In that case, yes. It does.

Rossikk:
Yawwn... On further research, The figure is approaching 180 if you throw in the private unis popping up. In any case, that is far more than is available in Zimbabwe. And do ditch the population excuse, as you never accept it when it is used to explain why poverty remains a problem.

Oh? "On further research"? Really? So you just pulled a random figure out of your backside and ran with it?

How surprising...

Rossikk:
Olodo. So, we are supposed to ignore the starvation and deprivation in Zimbabwe because they (supposedly) have constant light? Why do you ignore their deep economic collapse? Dishonest fool. I repeat. None of these imbecil.es bad mouthing Nigeria here could spend ONE WEEK in Zimbabwe, without BEGGING to be returned to Nigeria. QUOTE ME ON THAT ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.

I notice you immediately shut up about your bogus "250 universities" claim once I put up a link exposing your lie. You've still not said anything about that. I'm waiting. You think you can just lie and get away with it in this Internet age?

Rossikk:
Shut up there. The GDP per capita of Zimbabwe is $970 per annum, compared to Nigeria's $2,750. You could not survive two days in Zimbabwe, with their food shortages, and shortages of basic goods and services. Before long, you will be crying to be returned to Nigeria. Idiot.

The way you tell lies on the Internet, you must think this is 1994 and people have no way to confirm information.

What food shortages are you on about? Is this 2008?

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/zimbabwe-wet-season-helps-bumper-crops-170425103107492.html

They've satisfied their domestic market and they have even started to export excess food you dumb, pathetic, ignorant dolt! You think the rest of Africa is waiting for your naijeriya that is still importing toilet paper and rice? Oh, and lol @per capita GDP. Most Zimbabweans live better lives than most Nigerians. If you're Nigerian and you're not in a major city in the South of Nigeria, then your poverty is on a level with that of 1996 Somalia, $2000 per capita GDP or not.

Even if Nigerians have more money in their pockets than Zimbabweans (not even true), Zimbabweans do not have to spend money digging their own boreholes, buying diesel and petrol generators and fuel, burying their own septic tanks, buying packaged drinking water, and tarring their own roads.

With all your baseless ego, what have you achieved? Zimbabwe is self sufficient in food production, you are still importing rice.

Odoyo.

Ngokafor:
...Leave Nigerians to keep deceiving themselves..Big for nothing country that uses generators as a source of power supply even in 21st century.such a shame.

They don't travel around Africa, that's the problem. When you hear them talking about Angola and Zambia and Zimbabwe, it just makes you laugh in disbelief. Countries where citizens commute from home to work with metro rail systems, with constant power supply, public water supply, sewage treatment plans and functioning road networks. Which of these things does Nigeria have?

You'll see the mumus using pictures of places in Ikoyi and Maitama, whose air they cannot afford to breathe, as proof of Nigeria's "development" and it's so hilarious. They do not realise that even the "upper class" neighbourhoods would be classified as slums in more developed countries. Outside the window here in Lekki right now, there is a great big open gutter with stagnant green liquid inside it. Yet this disease-bearing neighbourhood is where people like that "patriotic" mumu on this thread will lift pictures from to disturb citizens of more developed African countries on skyscraper city.

Unexposed mumu people.

Rossikk:
Sure...I bet you'd never leave Nigeria to go live in Zimbabwe tho. Big mouth, little brain.

Before you insult me, you had better make sure you're not speaking to your intellectual superior, you this delusional pinhead. I am not your mate Rossikk, or whatever you call yourself. The only thing you are known for on this platform and elsewhere is for posting delusional nonsense, lies and half truths in pursuit of some equally delusional "Nigerianist" agenda. I'm not interested in your politics or whatever deep lying inferiority complex makes you so attracted to any conversation where the word "Nigeria" is mentioned. Whatever you are compensating for, you had better leave me out of it. I don't take kindly to being aggressed by the likes of you at all.

Do not do this again in your life.

LastMumu:
So their big cities having constant electricity is what makes them more developed than Nigeria?

They also have running water, smooth, tarred roads all over their cities, subsidised social housing, 90%+ literacy and human development indices that are far superior to at least half of Nigeria. Their infrastructure stock was built by Europeans before majority rule happened in 1980 without a destructive civil war. They are also having a bumper harvest, meeting all their internal food needs with leftover to export - Nigeria is still importing garri and wheat and corn.

By all objective measures, Zimbabwe is a more developed country than Nigeria. Visit it and you will be shocked at how backward Nigeria actually is, relative to even the rest of Africa. It's only in the minds of delusional Nigerians who don't travel that Nigeria is some kind of great, important country. Nigeria is actually a backward, inconsequential West African British vassal state led by illiterates, where its most expensive high class neighbourhoods have open gutters, individual septic tanks, boreholes and diesel generators.

You need to get out more.

thesicilian:
At this stage I'm inclined to believe that every country is more developed than Nigeria. Besides I have never been to Zimbabwe, so why should I doubt Mugabe's claims?

You are a wise person.

Rossikk:
You have 14 universities? Wow....But Nigeria has 250 sir.

So you are simply not in our league.

Relative to their population, silly.

First of all, the number of universities in Nigeria (including those awaiting accreditation) is still 130 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_in_Nigeria. I don't know which babalawo you conjured your delusional figures from.

14 universities to 12 million people is a much better ratio than 130 universities to 180 million people.

We're the ones who are not in their league.

BTW they have constant electricity and running water in their big cities in Zimbabwe. I visited a friend in Kewkwe recently (Kwekwe is to Zimbabwe what a city like Ado-Ekiti is to Nigeria), and for my 3 days there, the light did not blink. I also did not see a single generator.

Might want to chew on that before you laugh at Mugabe.

Nigeria is a lot worse than many of you realise.

VirginFinder:
Why don't you guys just sticking to reading your Vanguard and leave Punch alone?

Is Punch INEC/CJN that can make someone president?

Excuse me, who are you and why did you quote me?

porka:
This is tantamount to "medicine after death".

Buhari reportedly collapsed on the campaign trail due to his failing health but the Punch did not write any long editorial to scrutinize their endorsed candidate.

Why should we take what they say serious now?

Any responsible media outlet would do a complete background check of any political candidate before endorsement.

Rotimi Amaechi's money was too sweet to resist in 2015.

All media ethics, morals, responsibility, best practices, good judgement etc. went out of the window when APC tore up the rule book with the unprecedented cash bribing campaign they carried out between 2013 and 2015.

Journalists earning irregular salaries of less than N90,000 bought cars and built houses during that period. I would know, because I was smack in the middle of the PR industry then. They were all bought. some regret it, most don't. That's what poverty does to people.

citizenY:
@op,


I refrained from replying you all these days to gauge the reaction of other people.
Since there is no response , I will not dignify you with a response.

Please have a nice day, if you wish.

The problem is not that you are a fool (even though you are).

The problem is that you are either genuinely unaware of this fact, or you are proud of it. That's what makes your existence utterly insufferable.

Your saviour is on his way to the river Styx as we speak, so you can feel free to keep consoling yourself with the lies you have steadfastly wedded yourself to, like a laid-off coal miner in West Virginia earnestly believing that Donald Trump will give him his job back.

Everyone needs something to give their life meaning. Some people need dreams, others need alcohol and drugs. People like you need fantasies.

Enjoy your alternate reality.

mandax:
Question for Punch:

In 2015, there were tens of thousands of younger, less corrupt, better educated and more qualified presidential materials in Nigeria.

Why did Punch go for a man like Buhari to become president of Nigeria?

Because APC, fuelled by the stolen resources of Rivers State under Rotimi Amaechi could afford to buy every influential journalist, PR practitioner, advertising agency and social media loudmouth in Nigeria. They heavily outspent the incumbents, and that's all the hungry Nigerian media cares about - who gives them 'honorarium'.

Punch was bribed to the eyeballs with stolen Rivers State money. Now that such funds are not forthcoming any longer because the born to rule people have got what they want, Punch now remembers that its primary job is to be a journalistic medium.

In 2019, if they are paid enough money, they will still love-vendor Buhari's corpse to be president with their saturation coverage and editorial sophistry. They literally have no shame.

ahaika23:
My brother, they are all f00ls. Jonathan is way above their stupiid minds can fathom.

Like a spaceship talking to a horse drawn chariot. They don't operate on the same level. They can't even understand the things he is saying, though it is printed here in black and white. It's like Latin to them.

Well, na una country. No vex ehn? I go soon leave am for you.

SMARTVIC10:
dat car isnt mitsibushi, it's pajero

Comment of the day, week, month, year, decade, century, millenium, paleontological era...

tollyboy5:
don't compare minority successful men to majority poor men and who told you that fat lie that brf was from Lagos state agbaje was from the real son of the soil his mother was an indigene tinubu was from osun ambode step mother is from Lagos both parent are from ondo Lagos deputy governor sosan was an indigene of an awori island in badagry division that's why I feel she's the backbone of the development in our are qmbode is more like omo EPE compare to ondo that's why epe would experience development just the way fashola was more of Eko than osun. But can this people feel the agony of the local people whose land are been destroyed I still prefer indigenous Governor in stead of Yoruba Govnor. though otodo gbame case is different but I notice Lagos is planning a new state for wealthy people when 70% of its indegenes are omo onile agbero poor

That is the issue. Not whether indigene or no indigene. This is the crux of the matter, and the fundamental problem with the fake "development" that Lagos is trying to force. You can't develop a strip of land in vacuum. You have to develop the people as well.

TheStronghold:
No we see exactly what's happening, we just disagree with your sentiment. You're not smarter than anyone here, we just don't agree with you.

I never said I was smarter than anyone. I simply pointed out a demographic time bomb that is ticking, and stated that some of us are so desperate to pretend that we are doing better than we actually are, that we would gladly ignore what is becoming a matter of personal peril. Poverty is so stigmatised in Nigeria that even poor people who are better off than the poor people at Otodo Gbame are deriving some sort of vicarious pleasure from seeing other people get victimised. It makes them feel that they are better than they actually are.

TheStronghold:
I definitely sympathize with those who were living in Otodo Gbame and I do think that the Lagos government should build more low income housing for people who need it because with the rate Lagos is developing, there will be more cases like this. However I disagree with with the notion that Lagos is an immigrant city. It wasn't founded on immigration like the U.S. was, it never implemented a doctrine of immigration, and it this point the only reason why it's an immigrant country is due to the headways Lagos has made in terms of leadership and development. It was abandoned by the Lagos government after the capital was moved over 25 yrs ago and they basically left all of the problems of the city and surrounding areas to the leaders of the state. Just take a look at how the stadium hasn't been touched in decades and has been left to corrode by the federal government.

If the leaders of Lagos government didn't focus and do their jobs, lagos would be a wasteland right now, and everyone would be moving to Abuja. However Lagos remained focused, and still remain the #1 destination in Nigeria because of that.

I say this to point out that the onus is on the federal government, and other states, to develop other areas (especially Abuja!!!) to create alternatives for people to seek greener pastures. Because Lagos has the smallest land mass in the country, and yet has the largest population and keeps increasing every year. This just isn't sustainable, and situations like Otodo Gbame are bound to happen when so many poor people are migrating to such a small place. Nigeria is HUGE. The Lagos govt shouldn't be burdened with carrying the country. This isn't a one state show, everyone else needs to do their part to ease the burden the Lagos govt is feeling.

You're playing semantics here. Lagos has always been an immigrant city, right from the slave trade era. In fact its present name comes from a Portuguese word introduced by traders. A substantial inflow (and outflow) of people has always been central to the economic model of Lagos. Whether this was actually officially codified into an immigrant doctrine is completely beside the point. My point was that Lagos has never been an inward looking, nativist place - it has always welcomed newcomers and their economic additions. This new found Yoruba nativist narrative about how other people should "go back home" is bullshit sponsored by people with a political agenda and a government that clearly appears overwhelmed by the size of its task at hand.

And as for Lagos remaining top dog in Nigeria because its leaders "did their job", I'm sure even you didn't take yourself serious when you wrote that. Lagos is Nigeria's only functioning port city in an import dependent country. For a while, it also had Nigeria's only functioning international airport. Is there a port in Abuja? Is Abuja's inaccessible inland location and extreme heat conducive to business as against Lagos, which is right on the coast and already hosted most of Nigeria's economic activity? In fact Lagos has been on autopilot more or less. If its leaders were actually any good, half of the city wouldn't disappear underwater everytime a little rain falls, and I wouldn't have had to change my shock absorbers twice in 3 years.

Uhh, if you don't think poor people weren't driven out by that development in London, you're fooling yourself. The property prices in that area definitely sky rocketed and only the people who could afford it (i.e rich people) moved in. The thing is, with any type of development, rich people will always drive out the poor, whether it be by the federal govt or not. The only difference is how it looks when it happens. That's just a fact of life. Having lived in America for many years, I've seen how the government has gotten skilled at driving out the poor without laying a finger on anyone. You find one developer to build you a condo with rent in the 6 figure range, and within 2 years, the surrounding 5 square city blocks will drive out the poor themselves by raising prices. There are ways to look out for the poor, but with the combination of the rate of poor people moving to Lagos, the extremely small size of Lagos, and the fact that it is still a poor city despite what Nigerians think, these situations are just bound to happen.

I'll give you that, but certain guarantees were given at the time of handover that there would be a certain proportion of subsidised accommodation made available to low income families. I volunteered at the Olympics and I saw a few examples of such apartments myself. Yes, much or most of the place may have been gentrified now, agreed, but the point is that the government did not roll in with armed thugs and bulldozers in 3rd world style to kill, injure and intimidate people. Compensation was also paid to prior residents, so if they wished they could even move out of London altogether and start afresh somewhere else. None of these courtesies were given to the people being made homeless over the past week.

Mtchewwww, had no idea I was talking to a BMC robot.

Abeg next.

stevecantrell:
The war is on everyone who is not elite/ruling class ie middle and working class, not jjust poor people.

The sooner Lagosians understand that, the better.

They don't get it!

They think that because they have one 80k/month job on Admiralty Way and they can manage to live in Ajah, that means they are not part of the lower class. They don't understand that once the rich pricks are done driving out stilt and shanty communities to build their Orange Islands and Pink Islands, they will come for them too. Maybe it's when all the jobs are on the Island, but there is no remotely affordable accommodation closer than Abeokuta, that's when these ones will finally understand what is happening here.

This is blatant class warfare.

tollyboy5:
You must be a lier you can't come from Lagos and tell me ilaje on ogu are lagosians we know our selves ogu people are our brothers from badagry so if they go back home they are still within the state but ilaje are not our brothers . I understand you but the situation is beyond ambodes power. though people are trooping to Lagos but don't expect Lagos to take care of every person that comes to live under bridge. its not government priority to create camp for refugees if we had good monitoring system wanderers won't be allowed to enter Lagos state they cause more crime than good

And by the way, I'm from Lagos so miss me with the emotional micro-ethnic nonsense. I can see through it from 7 miles away.

I'm from Sowe-Badagry, and I have no interest in the micro-ethnic politics Yoruba people play in Lagos because I know what is really behind it, and it has nothing to do with any brotherhood or common heritage.

I view Lagos strictly as an economic asset, and it is being horribly mismanaged by the gang of incompetent chancers you are defending. A large immigrant population is an ASSET, and any government that fails to leverage assets and use them to generate income and wealth is a failure. Apart from the fact that Lagos has always been an immigrant city with its entire economy built on trading, the population of Lagos is a huge taxation asset and an economic bargaining chip that places Lagos ahead of the rest of the country.

The only problem any government in Lagos should have is how to construct more roads, bridges, rail lines, water treatment facilities, sewage treatment facilities and low income housing. The rich will always take care of themselves. There will always be an Orange Island or an Eko Atlantic - that is not the primary function of a serious government. Tiny, closed-off developments for the ultra-rich and bourgeoisie do not help LASG generate more tax revenue or gain more power and influence. Instead of demolishing Otodo Gbame so one rich dude can construct Orange Island, a government with actual vision would have created a settlement somewhere else and linked it by road or rail to the CBD, so that the poor people can have somewhere to go and still keep their employment.

When London constructed the Olympic Stadium in Westfields Park, they didn't just go in and drive people out of what was a poor and disgusting area filled with crime and misery. That's what a typically brainless Nigerian government would do, and people like you would defend them saying "look at the nice Olympic stadium that is there now. It's not by force to live in London." No, the planners created accommodation for these East Londoners and even the olympic village has been turned into subsidised housing for the previous East End residents. That area is now one of the most successful urban regeneration projects in history with a thriving local economy and increased tax receipts to the local council and the exchequer. Instead of sending in bulldozers to clear poor people and create one desolate rich man's toy, they actually incorporated the poor people into the future design of the place and look how successful it's been! Google Westfield Park in 2005 and compare it to 2015. In the space of just 10 years, an area bigger than Ikoyi has been completely turned around.

THAT is how an actual government thinks and behaves.

Not this ill-thought, scattergun, brainless, malu approach that does not create any meaningful development or solve any existing problems. As if the people being displaced will just melt into the air and disappear because you want them to!