₦airaland Forum

SamJed:
Here is what the bible says... It is appointed unto man once to die and after that judgement...Note the bolded...if you appoint someone for something you can reverse it for a reason...this explains why i believe most stories of people going to hell and heaven and coming back(not all are true though)...this also explains why one can be pronounced dead by doctors but after prayers by true children of God, the person will wake up...because it is appointed and not fixed... but for purgatory it is a pure lie...firstly there is no place in the bible where the word is mentioned...secondly the bible made it clear that if you receive Christ you will be saved and if you don't you are condemned...thirdly if the passage that says after death, judgement is anything to go by then purgatory is a pure lie...if there is supposed to be a clause like purgatory, it would have been included...the passage would have been "it is appointed unto man once to die, then a possible atonement while dead, then judgement.
Summary of everything i have said is that their is nothing like purgatory...it is not biblical...

So because d word Purgatory doesn't appear in d bible, it doesn't exist? SMH if dts 2 b true, dt means dt d trinity, nativity (birth of Christ), reincarnation (how God the son became man) r false because those words don't appear in d bible. Yes 1 is saved when 1 received Christ bt isn't it d same bible dt tell us 2 work out our salvation in fear & trembling? Purgatory is nt 4 d unrepentant or d sinners dt fails 2 acknowledge Jesus. It serves 2 cleanse us of minor stains caused by 4gten sins dt were unconfessed or unconscious sins (eg distraction during prayer) & is an instrument of penance 4 forgiven sins. D bible says "no sinner shall go unpunished" nt "no sinner shall go unforgiven". By merit of our sinful nature, we deserve damnation bt confession & true belief in Jesus Christ, we r spared dt. However we still need 2 undergo purging so dt we r made perfect as our heavenly Father is. Most tyms, we don't do sufficient penance in our life 2 be able 2 enter heaven unblemished so Purgatory strips us of such minor encumbrances & enables us 2 b pure enuf 2 c God's face.

Amberon:
using the Scriptures to support your claims isnt "argument". Purgatory is simply inexistent.

Only the blood of Jesus saves.

Go & read 1cor 3:10-15 & tell me what you think.

An2elect2:
How can you compile a book you dont believe in? Your church places the bible below its traditions. For long your popes and bishops/cardinals and priest have disregarded the bible,hidden it from the masses and dismissed its relevance. You only pride yourselves as custodians of the bible but not doers of the word. You should hide your heads in shame for so did the pharisees pride themselves as keepers of the letter/law and not as those who obey

Nt only do we read d bible in d Catholic church, we r encouraged 2 apply dem. D bible is nt our sole authority. God is & He constantly reveals more teachings 2 us. 1 book isn't totally sufficient 2 teach us all abt d Kingdom of God. A lot of those traditions u deride & misunderstand were in practice b4 d advent of D bible & most of dem r even scriptural in origin although it wld take in depth study & rumination on d bible 2 discover it. D Catholic church is so structured dt we study d word of God in its entirety & nt picking d parts dt we lyk & discarding d rest. D mass is structure in a way dt d entire reading of D bible is carried out. A lot of our early church fathers also were inspired by d Holy spirit 2 write & we also regard their writings too. Y don't u grab a copy of D catechism of D Catholic church & oda writing by learned men eg summa theologica by St Thomas Aquinas & b exposed 2 a higher truth Dan u know.

Oya make d bishop do d needful. Investigation shld b carried out & if he's guilty, dey shld disrobe him. He has dragged d name of D Catholic church in d mud.

Nawa o! Wt we hear 4rm d mouth of some pastors nw ehn... Even a non xtian wld know it's nt of God. A lot of dem r just serving their bellies & nt God.

Dis was 1 of D many books I read when I fell away 4rm d Catholic faith. Actually it was d last book I read in d series of books I was given by a priest. Even b4 reading, I began 2 c dt d Catholic church was where God intended me 2 be. God still lives & speak thru her. It is left 2 each & everyone of us 2 listen intently. D reason y a lot of us Catholics leaves d church is because we don't diligently search 4 d truth of God in d teachings of D church. We just do wt we c odas doing without fully understanding y. If (I hope I don't) I ever leave d church, it wldnt b because Jesus isn't present in her because He is.

Abeg make person remind me y we need police 4 9ja again. If shame na money, dem no go even get half kobo. Wetin go make man carry hand dey beat pregnant woman even kick am 4 Belle if nt madness?

politricks:
Lalasticlala please put this on frontpage to show that every region has something to offer. The amount of resources the country has both human and natural if harnessed well, can make this country a world power. We don't know the amount of blessings this country has considering the fact that we are not usually plagued with natural disasters like earthquakes, typhoon or extreme weather. I urge Nigerians to sheath their tribal sword of which i have sadly been a part of and let us chart a new course for this country. We all have a common enemy and that is bad leaders so let us channel our energy to bringing them to book.

#ibelieveinabetternigeria

Guy 4 9ja 2 b beta, 99.9% of our present leaders & 50% of D followers need 2 die ASAP.

D best option 4 FG 2 reduce dollar scarcity na 2 legalize drug trafficking 4 9ja. Disband NDLEA ASAP, encourage unemployed youth 2 start producing weed, cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, methamphetamine etc in huge quantities & start exporting 2 oda coun3s. If I hear say naira no rise against dollar...

Achuwa1:
Weep no more parents,coz there are lots of universities,polytechnics & college of education here in Nigeria..
They should all withdraw there lads from all those oversea schools coz they are using those kids studies oversea to delapiidate the little foreign reserve we have tht would have being used @ forex for importation of important goods into the country,,,
only students going to study professional courses & those going for research with guarantee tht they will return to practise should only be given preference...
why should a student be going abroad to study political sc.,sociology,etc with our foreign reserve s going down the drain.,,abeg let them withdraw all of them & send to schools in Nigeria,,afterall,there are still gud private universities here if u feel u dont like govt. Owned schools..

Which skuls? D crappy tertiary institutions in dis hell hole? 2 gain admission 4 9ja na war & runz. My Lil bro who scored over 60% in unilag post utme wasn't given admission. Den d crappy standard. If u no Sabi LA cram, LA pour, u go fail. D poor facilities nko? Lecturer go dey teach practical course dey ask u 2 imagine when na tym 2 demonstrate. Abeg make dem no try am.

CHAI!!! C as d cowardly man don Ja. If im innocent, y im no stay defend imself? Na pple lyk dis wey go give buhari justification 2 ignore due process & rule of law. Anyway make I close mouth because 4 law, person dey innocent until proven oda wise by court.

Make I no talk anything b4 d mod wey ban me 4 "promoting biafra" (in his words) resume on my mata. D fact dt I don't totally see eye to eye wt kanu on some issues doesn't erase my admiration 4 him. All he needs 2 win over pple lyk me is 2 come out wt a very good, practical blueprint on hw 2 move d East forward.

DoctorAlien:
How long will you continue to harden your heart? And you have not answered my question: Are we no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments? Secondly, can you provide just one verse in the Bible where GOD commanded us to now forget His Sabbath and keep the Sabbath of the beast ( Sunday)?

By d way, do u know d 10 commandments weren't d only laws handed 2 D jews by God? Y don't u wear 1 material of clothing alone (mosaic laws state dt u shldnt mix 2 materials eggs cotton & wool 2geda). Y don't we celebrate d passover? Even Paul did. Y don't we still keep slaves & free dem after a while according 2 mosaic laws). Jesus redefined d law giving us 2 laws (love of God & of neighbors). I don't c hw shifting d Sabbath 4rm Saturday 2 Sunday goes against dt.

DoctorAlien:
Read Matt. 12:1-8 and understand. Are you trying to imply that Jesus committed sin by breaking the Sabbath? What is sin? "...sin is the transgression of the law" 1 Jn. 3:4. That is the Bible definition of sin.

No matter how much you try to bend and twist and distort and resist the word of GOD to suit yourself, the fact remains that GOD's word cannot be changed. Let no man deceive you; GOD knows those who are His. Come out of the apostate church, my people. GOD's merciful arms are wide open.

D fact is as long as u serve God in spirit & truth, whether u celebrate ur Sabbath on a Sunday or Saturday is immaterial.

DoctorAlien:
How long will you continue to harden your heart? And you have not answered my question: Are we no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments? Secondly, can you provide just one verse in the Bible where GOD commanded us to now forget His Sabbath and keep the Sabbath of the beast ( Sunday)?

How does 1 keep d Sabbath holy? Isn't it by worshipping God, gathering as believers & doing good 2 our fellow man? Do we do dt? Yes. So isn't dt d aim of D Sabbath? As long as we do dt, I don't think God has any qualms wt it being a Saturday or Sunday.

DoctorAlien:
As regarding circumcision, we all know that is not a part of the 10 Commandments. We are advised to "Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no longer stiffnecked" Deut. 10:16

Don't be stiffnecked any longer concerning the will of GOD for you. He loves you and wants you to walk in His ways. If you hear his word and invitation today, "Do not harden your heart..." Psa. 95:8 It is the will of GOD that we dedicate ourselves pure and living sacrifices to Him, for that is true worship.

Didn't God order dt any male nt circumcised shld b cut off (ostracized) 4rm d pple of God?

DoctorAlien:
Exod. 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy...But the Seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy GOD..."

At the risk of being termed a legalist, I wish to make it known that the Sabbath is very important to GOD. We all know the seventh day is Saturday. It was the day in which the LORD rested, and He blessed and hallowed it.

Let me ask you a question: Have we done away with the 10 commandments? Are Christians no longer required to abide by the 10 Commandments?

God is spirit & therefore transcends d boundaries of tym. Night is d same as day 2 Him as r tyms & seasons. As 4 d 7th day, it is relative 2 humans 4 instance in France, Sunday is considered d 7th day (their week begins on Monday). Dts y Jesus said dt God is spirit & dey dt worship Him must do so in spirit and truth. Didn't Jesus go harvesting ears of corn on d Sabbath going against d stipulation dt 1 shldnt work in d Sabbath day?

DoctorAlien:
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a
falling away first, and that man of sin be
revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as GOD sitteth in the temple of GOD, shewing himself that he is GOD" 2 Thess. 2:3-4

It is no longer news that the pope claims to be GOD. Meanwhile, the word "pope" translates "father". Catholics even go to the extent of attaching "Holy" to it. Here are Jesus' words: "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in Heaven" Matt. 23:9

So what if pope means father? When u call ur "daddy GO" "our father in the Lord ", r u sinning? He is referred 2 as holy nt because he is incapable of sinning bt by d grace of God bestowed on his office (kind of similar 2 immunity clause held by d president doesn't still mean he's above d law). After all by virtue of Jesus Christ's sacrifice, r we nt made holy? D pope is nt referred 2 as God in d Catholic church. God is God & no man can take His worship. I sense a lot of pple on NL hate d Catholic church dt exists in their imagination. Instead of confirming d rumors dey hear or d doubts in their minds 4rm a knowledgeable Catholic or a priest, dey concoct fallacies, quasi truths @ best (outright falsehood most tyms) & conspiracy theories 2 back their irrational hatred 4 d Catholic church.

DoctorAlien:
Please give me a specific verse in the Bible where GOD nullified the Saturday Sabbath and commanded us to now keep Sunday holy. Who asked Roman Catholics to keep Saturday? Was it GOD? Was it Jesus?

And yes, I'm a Seventh-Day Adventist.

Guy Saturday or Sunday is immaterial 2 God. Where in d bible did God specify Saturday or Sunday? It was d Jews dt did dt. U r hyping dis mata d way d pharisees did doing wt Jesus accused d pharisees of "laying heavy burdens on men & nt lending a finger 2 lift it". Tell me did Jesus ever nullify circumcision? & yet d apostles did away wt it as a prerequisite 4 salvation.

DoctorAlien:
The truth is that the Roman Catholic Church calls herself "the mother church". She is indeed a mother. Let's see what type of mother GOD calls her: "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH". Rev. 17:5

There you have it. The truth is that all the churches still having elements of the doctrines (including Sunday worship) of the catholic church are harlots. The catholic church is the mother harlot. The Bible said it.

There is still a Church Holy and true to GOD, not polluted with the filthy abominations of the catholic church, "...they that keep the Commandments of GOD, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12

I take it dt u r a 7th day adventist. Let me ask a question. On what day did Jesus resurrect 4rm d dead? Was it nt d day after d Sabbath (Sunday)? So u now c y d Sabbath was moved. We xtians r a pple of D new, everlasting covenant nt tethered 2 D imperfect Abrahamic & mosaic covenant. So we can't worship God on d day Jesus wrought such a great victory 4 us a victory over d sting of death. I give u d reply of Jesus 2 D pharisees "Sabbath was made 4 man & nt man 4 d Sabbath".

DoctorAlien:
The truth is that the Roman Catholic Church calls herself "the mother church". She is indeed a mother. Let's see what type of mother GOD calls her: "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH". Rev. 17:5

There you have it. The truth is that all the churches still having elements of the doctrines (including Sunday worship) of the catholic church are harlots. The catholic church is the mother harlot. The Bible said it.

There is still a Church Holy and true to GOD, not polluted with the filthy abominations of the catholic church, "...they that keep the Commandments of GOD, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12

I take it dt u r a 7th day adventist. Let me ask a question. On what day did Jesus resurrection 4rm d dead? Was it nt d day after d Sabbath (Sunday)? So u now c y d Sabbath was moved. We xtians r a pple of D new, everlasting covenant nt tethered 2 D imperfect Abrahamic & mosaic covenant. So we can't worship God on d day Jesus wrought such a great victory 4 us

DoctorAlien:
The same papacy that has persecuted the saints of GOD throughout the dark ages? Killing and maiming as many as would not yield to it's polluted and adulterated mode of worship? I reject the notion that the papacy is founded on GOD's word. Research and see for yourself what the papacy has been doing.

Yes certain actions by d papacy 2 discourage schism were very overzealous. Bt u only need 2 look @ d havoc wrecked by pple lyk Jim Jones & a cohort of oda schismists 2 understand wt dey were trying 2 prevent. Most of those pple u called Saints were agents of disobedience & rebellion (almost similar 2 hw lucifer tried 2 war against God's authority). Their mission was 2 sow d tares of disunity in d body of Christ. C Pentecostalism 2day. U all claim 2 b under d guidance of D Holy spirit yet u have no unity. Confusion & strife reigns supreme in ur midst. U can't even teach d same things. One pastor says 1 thing has been revealed 2 him by d Holy Spirit only 4 anoda apostle claiming 2 b under d guidance of D same Holy spirit contradicts him. Is dt how God's spirit works? Is dis wt Jesus envisioned when he prayed dt His followers shld b one as He & d Father r 1? Answer.

DoctorAlien:
It wouldn't take much research to discover that the worship of Mary by the catholics is a pagan practice (mother and child worship) having its roots in ancient Babylon. This is the same Church that has succeeded in leading millions astray and is bent on distorting the word of GOD. They claim that all their polluted and filthy practices have origins in the bible, "Having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof..." 2 Tim 3:5. They would hide the truth from their congregation and teach them all sorts of lies and deceptions from the devil. "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matt. 15:8-9.

Come out of the apostate church, my people.

Hw many tyms wld I say Catholics honor Mary nt worship her? D only reason y most Pentecostals mistake devotion 2 Mary by Catholics 4 worship is because many of dem worship God superficially. D honor we give Mary (mother of God), some of u give ur "mummy GO". All ur allegations r malicious & baseless. U speak of doctrine of men being taught by d Catholic church. Pls who preaches dis?
1. If u drink alcohol (no mata hw little), u wld end up on hell (distorting d word of God dt showed dt Jesus drank wine an alcoholic beverage while on earth)
2. If u don't pay ur tithe, u can't make heaven (something Jesus neva taught dt was only used in mosaic tyms 2 provide 4 d levites who weren't given any possessions in d promised land)
3. Wt abt dt Tanzanian pastor dt has 2 b carried abt when preaching?
4. If a woman uses hair extensions, earrings, bangles etc she wld go 2 hell.
5. Television watching is evil (deeper life)
6. Blood transfusion is evil (Jehovah's witnesses)
7. Men r nt supposed 2 wear shorts in church.
8. Wearing of jeans is evil.
9. Women r nt supposed 2 wear trousers.
& dis is just d tip of D iceberg. I've nt carried out sufficient research in dis area.

DoctorAlien:
The Roman Catholic Church is the apostate church and the papacy is the beast being talked about in Revelations and Daniel.
"...Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev. 18:4

There is still chance for you to leave the apostate church and worship GOD in truth and in spirit.

A church wt Christ as her founder is apostate & d papacy dt traces its origins 2 Simon Peter appointed by Jesus Christ is d antichrist? B careful dt u dnt bcom lyk d pharisees who called Jesus "belzebuub" & u don't commit d sin of apostasy & blasphemy. I have searched far & wide even 1ce abandoning d Catholic faith bt my search 4 d truth led me back 2 her.

All of u blaming PMB and canonizing GEJ should ask urselves dis simple question "if d nigerian economy was so strong as GEJ & NOI said & nt a fugayzi built on a stack of cards, y has it gone all haywire in d little tym he left power? If he did such a good job, y didnt it lat 4 even a year? Yes buhari shld currently apply more effort 2 salvage our economy 4rm going 2 the dogs bt dnt 4gt wt or rada who landed us here. When oil prices were $100/barrel, who didnt save sufficiently? who after 6 yrs in power (16 yrs 4 his party) failed 2 successfully diversify d economy? Who cldnt establish sufficient refineries so we wld stop importn fuel? who cldnt solve our power problems despite spending donkey years in power? dts who we shld blame.

b4 we blame buhari,lets ask what is causing d increased fall of the naira against d dollar? Primarily, it is caused by the global fall of crude oil (90% of our exports). It is a global event dt even buhari isnt powerful 2 prevent. Check the currencies of oda major crude oil exporting coun3s & u wld notice d plummet in currency value. D foreign reserves & excess crude account is supposed 2 cushion d effects albeit temporarily. d problem we r facing is dt while our import bill is increasing, our export revenues r drastically shrinked. dis arose 4rm failure of successive govts 2 stimulate local production, diversify our economy, encourage multiple commodity exports & excessively reliance on crude oil. what makes our problem worse dan most oil export is dt we r an import dependent economy. So whaqts happening is dt d small dollars we have is going into d pockets of oda economies while their dollars dt used 2 come 4rm dem buying our crude oil has reduced seriously. What buhari is trying 2 do is trying (nt too well IMO) 2 put restrictions on d way our dollars wld leave our economy bt we r just too dependent on imported goods dt its proving really difficult. Importers need dollars 2 pay 4 imported goods so in dis case d importers anticipating crackdown on dollar availability r trying 2 buy more more dollars dan dey usually do. Dis creates more demand 4 dollars so because more naira is chasing fewer dollars, deres a spike in d exchange rate. Depending on d soundness of buhari's economic policies & d level of cooperation he gets 4rm involved parties, dis might either b temporary or worsen bt d bitter pill all nigerians must swallow is dt dis wld last a long tym & dere is little we can do 2 avoid it. We r reaping what we v sown b

Op thy name is nw lienus because thou loveth 2 lie. Hpv is common 2 practitioners of vaginal, oral & anal sex. & d worst dt can happen if left untreated is genital warts & cancers.
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Gbam!!! Op knack nail on top head. D way dis budget mata dey go, I don dey take 1 kain eye dey look buhari. All these things happen under im nose & im dey claim innocent? Im no even bother check d thing b4 im submit am? Every ministry wey submit mago mago budget shld b investigated afta d ministers in charge of dem r suspended temporarily so as nt 2 use their influence 2 sabotage d process. If buhari free dis mata, I go Sabi say him too na babanla he goat wey wan take our yams chew curd.

omohayek:
The problem is that under this policy, bureaucrats and politicians get to decide what is "essential", rather than letting the market decide. This results in absurdities like Buhari and Emefiele banning chopstick imports as "non-essential", though such imports may be absolutely essential to top-tier tourist resorts that can draw in foreign dollars. Just because something doesn't seem "essential" to layman doesn't mean it's not essential to important domestic businesses.

Leaving aside questions of economic efficiency, the other problem with such policies is that they create the very scope for the corruption that we all love to complain about. Who is more likely to have access to artificially cheap dollars, a struggling small or medium-sized manufacturer in Ibadan or Onitsha, or well-connected monopolist billionaires who already benefit from import waivers and convenient bans on competitors' inputs? We cannot say we want less corruption while giving politicians and civil servants the very tools to engage in it.

D market deciding wld nt curb importation because as long as dere is demand 4 d goods/services & importation seems lyk d easier option in d short term, pple wld still import eg in d chopsticks matter u gave, doesn't Nigeria have d resources 2 produce dem? Yes it might take having 2 get few Asian expatriates 2 gain d manufacturing skills bt it can still b locally produced. Importation shld only b restricted 2 raw materials & technology dt can't b locally sourced. Granted, D repercussions may b painful @ 1st bt in d long run wld benefit our economy if properly applied. Allowing d private sector free rein in economic policies is always d best of actions. D govt needs 2 regulate strictly 2 prevent sharp practices.

Teespice:
if I didn't have a first hand experience in all the relationships I have been, I won't have mouth to talk.

I have been cheated on, yet na me go still forgive and after forgiving them, I will be the one who ends up getting ditched.

God knows me I am done giving chances. and about my previous posts, I will reiterate the same stance over again. let all the males abuse and call me naive, na them sabi.

Sorry o! Guess u have 2 kiss a lot of frogs 2 get 2 ur prince ryt? Dnt Sha close ur heart permanently. Dere r still guys who take fidelity 2 their women seriously.

Teespice:
thank u o jare.

the day I will take him serious is the day he gives this same advice to his fellow males.

I am not a married woman neither am I in a relationship, but I can say with all confidence that should I get married or be in a relationship, I will be faithful to him and I expect same from him. it swings both ways. not all women can put up with a cheating spouse. I will rather leave and be single than have heart attack over someone who has chosen not to respect me.

good luck to the woman who decides to put up with a cheating spouse because of what the likes of this op with his sexist views think.

Abi o! It's nt by force 2 answer Mr & Mrs. Yes no one is perfect & marriage is abt compromise bt a person who regularly cheats on u & uses d excuse dt he/she still loves you neither loves nor respects you. Personally, me constantly tolerating a cheating spouse is allowing d person 2 make a mockery of D sanctity of our marriage. Shld I decide 2 get married, I intend (by d grace of God) 2 b faithful 2 my wife (till death do us part). Anyone who cheats repeatedly in a marriage (whether male or female) isn't supposed 2 b in marriage. Yes it's nt a must 2 end d marriage, if u can live wt a cheating spouse, good 4 u. Bt u cant expect majority of pple 2 fold their arms & get cheated on just because dey r females. It isn't easy o. B4 u Sabi, u no go kno when u go turn 2 dt woman wey kill her husband 4 Ibadan. BTW, nyc signature.